they are very much there in nFS, all the way to his parents. Parents and grandparents not visible on IGI. Great-grandparents and beyond are hit and miss. Some dated before anyone knew who Obama was. David Samuelsen Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > I was not talking about the previous presidents and their families. I said "both the paternal and maternal lines of the president" (singular -- meaning the current president, Mr. Obama) are no longer available.

You are certainly correct that the ancestors for Mr. Obama are in NFS but I think we are not talking about the same thing. I was talking about ordinances which could be "chosen" by someone. None of the ordinances for Mr. Obama's ancestors are available. The info is there but the ordinances can't be done. For many earlier generations the ordinances are marked "unavailable" -- even when the births are prior to 110 years. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple

look again. Visible in IGI These are all of his 2nd great grandparents on mother's side John William Dunham (1863-1936), 2008 Denver (7 records) Mary Ann Kearney (1869-1936), 2008 Provo (3 records) Harry E. Armour (1874-1953), in progress Gabriella Clark (1877-?), in progress Charles Payne (1861-1889) 1999 Mt Timpanogos Della Wolfley (1863-?) 2008, VeraCruz, Columbus, Los Angeles, Buenos Aires Thomas C. McMurry (1850-1939), 1953 Logan Margaret Belle Wright (1869-1935) 1951 Logan The only ones not shown are his father's side. Sensitive due to Islamic background. Church policy is all submissions from MidEast as well as Islamic are covered up. Even Lebanese Christians. David Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > You are certainly correct that the ancestors for Mr. Obama are in NFS but I think we are not talking about the same thing. I was talking about ordinances which could be "chosen" by someone. > > None of the ordinances for Mr. Obama's ancestors are available. The info is there but the ordinances can't be done. > > For many earlier generations the ordinances are marked "unavailable" -- even when the births are prior to 110 years. > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >