Sorry, the catalog does deem to be having issues. On May 16, 2013 10:20 PM, milesmeyer@gmail.com wrote: I am in with Chrome on my tablet. It seems to be ok. On May 16, 2013 10:07 PM, "Terri Jaskolka" <tjaskolka@gmail.com> wrote: Using Chrome, I could not get the catalog to search anything (no search box would show up). However, the link to the old version was up and that seemed to work fine. -Terri J. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Nancy Gibert <nlgibert1@ameritech.net >wrote: > Does anyone know if familysearch is down. I get so far but I cannot get > into the catalog to search by a place name. > Thanks > Nancy > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am in with Chrome on my tablet. It seems to be ok. On May 16, 2013 10:07 PM, "Terri Jaskolka" <tjaskolka@gmail.com> wrote: > Using Chrome, I could not get the catalog to search anything (no search box > would show up). However, the link to the old version was up and that seemed > to work fine. > > -Terri J. > > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Nancy Gibert <nlgibert1@ameritech.net > >wrote: > > > Does anyone know if familysearch is down. I get so far but I cannot get > > into the catalog to search by a place name. > > Thanks > > Nancy > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Using Chrome, I could not get the catalog to search anything (no search box would show up). However, the link to the old version was up and that seemed to work fine. -Terri J. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Nancy Gibert <nlgibert1@ameritech.net>wrote: > Does anyone know if familysearch is down. I get so far but I cannot get > into the catalog to search by a place name. > Thanks > Nancy > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know if familysearch is down. I get so far but I cannot get into the catalog to search by a place name. Thanks Nancy

Dear Tammy, I would be very appreciative if you would send your handout to me. Thank you. Darleen Fuller bdfuller@aol.com I have a handout about how to get Tree Connect and how to use it.

My temple is the Frankfurt Germany temple. The new system was introduced a couple of months ago at Frankfurt after a letter from the first presidency (at least I think it was a letter, I'm not absolutely sure about that though). So it seems to be officially sponsored. Sebastian Buck Esslingen ward, Stuttgart Germany stake

The names must go all over the world, I just had a ward member call for help this morning with her half sister, and found that after she did the baptism and confirmation in Sacramento Temple one year ago, the initiatory was done in Manilla, Philippines, and the endowment was done in Manti, Temple, both of these last ordinances were done only in the last couple of weeks. So I don't know how that works, but it seems to be working fine. Family search is a lot easier to talk to people directly for help now, so I appreciate that a lot, and the man I spoke to was in Arizona and he said he was off at 9PM at which time members on the other side of the world, like Africa or Europe, would take over and the calls would be forwarded to them. I find that amazing! Betty Jo Colbert Woodside Ward, Citrus Heights Stake, Sacramento, CA Temple District. ----- Original Message ----- From: JCBrooks@aol.com To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:45:46 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple Hi Alice This isn't just for Stake Temple Days...this is EVERY DAY!! How are we going to get FamilySearch back to the original premise (as I understood it in 2007) which is that any submitted name will go to whichever temple in the world needs names, not just your zip code temple? That would equalize the flow and maybe I wouldn't have names taking two years to finish!! Michele In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:43:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aiallen@iinet.com writes: I am also in the Portland temple district. Whenever I've been there on a Ward/Stake day, I've seen piles of name slips on the counter with a Stake & Ward card behind it, for patrons to take a name if they'd like. Would think there are also name slips on other days as well--we can't be the only stake who has patrons doing this. Alice Allen Oakhurst Ward/Vancouver WA Stake

This was done in Hamilton Temple, New Zealand in the 90's but it has stopped now. I don't know why. perhaps because of the introduction of NFS David ----- Original Message ----- From: <JCBrooks@aol.com> To: <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple > Supposedly copying a successful program in use at the San Diego Temple, > the > Newport Beach temple has initiated a stake temple file where patrons can > leave their printed cards for others to do. It is freely accessed by > patrons in a bureau in the foyer. Rather than take temple issued name > slips, > patrons can do family names for others in their stake. > > While on the surface, this sounds like a nice idea, it seems to me to undo > the "first come first serve" plan when folks submit names to the temple > file which they or their own family cannot finish. Since we have a small > temple, the volume of names which will be served by the temple file will > decrease dramatically. This, coupled with the fact that we know that > names are > directed to the closest temple of the submitter, seems contrary to the > whole > FamilySearch temple system. > > I am personally frustrated as I have 600+ names waiting in line in the > FamilySearch temple file to be served and I played by the rules. > > How are they getting away with this? > > Is it happening at any other temples? > > Michele > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been doing family research since 1957. I started with PAF when it first came out and still use it. I LOVE IT!! It is all I need. Jacque Bush Logandale Nevada Stake

I get the Aussies nights and I'm in Salt Lake City. Only two instances I got 2 Germans and they were very very thoroughly and good. David On 5/15/2013 6:04 PM, Betty Jo and Don Colbert wrote: > The names must go all over the world, I just had a ward member call for help this morning with her half sister, and found that after she did the baptism and confirmation in Sacramento Temple one year ago, the initiatory was done in Manilla, Philippines, and the endowment was done in Manti, Temple, both of these last ordinances were done only in the last couple of weeks. > So I don't know how that works, but it seems to be working fine. Family search is a lot easier to talk to people directly for help now, so I appreciate that a lot, and the man I spoke to was in Arizona and he said he was off at 9PM at which time members on the other side of the world, like Africa or Europe, would take over and the calls would be forwarded to them. I find that amazing! > Betty Jo Colbert > Woodside Ward, Citrus Heights Stake, Sacramento, CA Temple District.

Shanna, PAF is the personal program I encourage new researchers to use to get them hooked. It is free and teaches them the disciplines of accurate work. Moving on to more can be easily discerned. But I think you are making some very valid points; we should always we aware of where our patrons are coming from and judge our advice suits that. Thanks, Kathy from England On 15/05/2013, Shanna Jones <shannasjones@msn.com> wrote: > Please don't make every patron purchase a third party product just to begin > their family history and submit one name. The Family History department is > trying to create success experiences and I have had several patrons go to > family history centers only to become so overwhelmed and discouraged > because > they have to buy RootsMagic and sync with PAF and then sync with RootsMagic > and Family Tree and all they really wanted to do was to look at their > family > tree and see if their great grandpa had his work done. We do not need to > make every patron become a genealogist, we want to turn their hearts first. > > > Family History Center workers and consultants are not allowed to recommend > or insist that anyone use or buy a third-party product. They are to refer > them to familysearch.org/products and let them chose for themselves. > > Yes, I use third-party products, as many as I can and I love them, but I've > been at this for over 20 years. But it is so overwhelming for new people > (you know the 97.5% of adult members who don't do family history) that we > want them to have success using Family Tree first, then we will let them > decide if they need another product to make charts, add their > grandchildren, > organize, do research etc. Please don't scare them away and overwhelm > them, > help them have a positive experience. > > Ok, off the soap box...... > Shanna Jones > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy > Shipley > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:11 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Do I Still Need a Desktop Genealogy Program or is > Family Tree Enough? > > Thanks Renee for a great recap of the discussions at RootsTech 2013! > I have been emphasizing this to the patrons in my Family History Center for > a number of years. Sometimes they listen. They especially take note when > their family information gets changed and they don't know how to correct > it. > > > I too would like to post this in my center and re-emphasize it to my staff, > if it's alright with you. > > Kathy Shipley > Director > Yuba City CA Stake FHCtr > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That's minor, really. You can use PAF as a genealogy program only, but you don't have to record temple information there (that is already on FamilyTree). O usually tell people that PAF is for genealogy, and Family Tree is for preparing ordinances. Now, if you must enter some code, you can use these: http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/codes/ Or, you can create your own (there is a warning, but it can be ignored) or you can simply enter "Cleared" in the ordinance field so at elast you know the temple work is done. > Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:36:33 -0600 > From: dsam52@sampubco.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Do I Still Need a Desktop Genealogy Program or is Family Tree Enough? > > a major problem here - PAF does not have any codes covering any > announced/built Temples since 2000. > > David Samuelsen > > On 5/15/2013 11:09 AM, SCOTT KATHY wrote: > > Shanna, PAF is the personal program I encourage new researchers to use > > to get them hooked. It is free and teaches them the disciplines of > > accurate work. Moving on to more can be easily discerned. > > But I think you are making some very valid points; we should always > > we aware of where our patrons are coming from and judge our advice > > suits that. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kathy from England > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Last year we were read a letter from the First Presidency in sacrament meeting, that we were no longer going to have files kept at the Temple, we must do the work we have reserved ourselves and collect the cards after they are recorded and whatever we can not personally do in a reasonable period of time, we must release to be done by others. It specifically said we are not allowed to stop patrons at the Temple and ask them to do our work. I'm pretty sure all Temples and Family History Consultants were given a copy of this notice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Tippets" <sahara346@gmail.com> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple Well, there is the fact that as far as I know, there are no temples that serve only 1 stake. Possibly: Helping others in your personal stake may help build a sense of unity within the stake, as you serve other stake members, as well as their deceased ancestors. (Don't know for sure what the motiviation is, because they're not doing it in our Temple District.) If there was any other way to do this within the stake, I'm not sure how to go about it, because no stake uses only one building, and it would require some serious pre-planning even within a ward building to be able to pick up the appropriate number of name cards on Sunday for attendance later in the week. What we are doing in the Winter Quarters Temple district: if we are doing an endowment session, we can turn in two additional names for others to do that day. (It means one has to get there early so that others can get the name turned in for the session we're on, or they'll return them if there were not enough patrons to do them. And yes, we do have some very small sessions occasionally. I do remember one that I was on that either everyone had their own name, or they were doing a name for a friend...because we ended up using no Temple file names, though.) It's useful when you have a single or widowed person who needs help with getting the opposite gender in their family done. It means that a person has to be actively doing some of their own Temple work...otherwise they can put names into Temple file and wait for them to go through the line up. It is, of course, easier for people who live close enough to the Temple to get there frequently to get more help on names they choose to keep for their own rather submission to Temple file. Our Temple does accept any number of baptism/confirmation, initiatory/sealings that you choose to turn in--but I suspect that is because they can get far more of any of those done in a single Temple visit, so that no one person would likely dominate the session with their own personal work. (Although we HAVE had people come in with a tall stack of sealings to do and expect to participate personally in each and every one, despite the fact that it would mean that some one else would have less opportunity to participate.) It seems that no matter which way they choose to do things, someone will not like it. I've noticed that Temple-submitted names are getting done much quicker in our area now that they're sending them to one's personal Temple district, but I'm sure that where there's a lot more name submission in larger districts, that may not be the case. (Certainly we get names in initiatory from ALL OVER the world, challenging our linguistic abilities to say a name, much less approximate the correct pronounciation...and yes we can always spell it. I just happen to personally feel that if I can approximate the pronounciation of a name for someone, it may make them feel more like they're not just "a name on the list." And yes, I do know that sometimes those on the Temple submitted names are there with us, no matter what the ordinance happens to be.) Karen On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Dave and Margaret <

PAF is still very much alive and works in Windows 8, from what I understand. If you can't remember familysearch.org/pr <https://familysearch.org/products/>oducts <https://familysearch.org/products/>it might help to know to look at the very bottom of many familysearch.org <https://familysearch.org/> pages for About, next to Blog, Feedback &Languages. The link to Products is right under the picture next to Press. I had to write to FamilySearch to learn again where to find it.I think I've got a handle on the new version of familysearch.org <https://familysearch.org/> now. :) Ann A. On 5/15/2013 1:30 PM, Karen Tippets wrote: > So has PAF completely gone away for ever now? IF so, that's sad. I > usually refer newby's to that program because 1. cost (none), and 2. why > spend lots of money if you don't know if you're going to get hooked on this > fascinating hobby. You can always buy something with more bells & whistles > later. > > If it hasn't gone away for good--where is it? > > Karen > > > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Fred <unclefvp@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Hi folks, if a new patron jumps into Family Tree, finds and submits to the >> Temple great Grandpa based on a few notes on a scrap of paper, I'd guess we >> just created yet another duplicate record... If they have great grandpa in >> some kind of a database, (even family group sheets), we might have some >> hope >> that great grandpa is actually the real/right great grandpa. I see no way >> Family Tree can be used or useful to someone who does not have their own >> genealogy database.. How do you check for duplicates and evaluate dupes >> without knowing dates and places and relationships? And how can you know >> that unless you have that data (including living people) organized and >> accessible? >> Family Tree might be useful in having youth (whose family info is likely >> already in the database) find their ancestors, but without a working >> database that links everyone together, and puts the right info in the right >> place, I can't even imagine using it to submit Temple work... >> >> >> Regards, Fred >> >> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Just teach the new patron to search for duplicates, uncle Fred... A recent convert, a member of my ward, was super happy when she started her family history and found out that work had been done for her great grandpa. She said "I thought I was the only one, but they are already there waiting for me." In fact, teaching people to search first is much better now, because when there isn't a match (usually there isn't, at least in Brazil and at least one 1-2 generations back), now the system lets you add what you search instead of having you type everything over, this time to add instead of searching. > From: unclefvp@verizon.net > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:12:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Do I Still Need a Desktop Genealogy Program or is Family Tree Enough? > > Hi folks, if a new patron jumps into Family Tree, finds and submits to the > Temple great Grandpa based on a few notes on a scrap of paper, I'd guess we > just created yet another duplicate record... If they have great grandpa in > some kind of a database, (even family group sheets), we might have some hope > that great grandpa is actually the real/right great grandpa. I see no way > Family Tree can be used or useful to someone who does not have their own > genealogy database.. How do you check for duplicates and evaluate dupes > without knowing dates and places and relationships? And how can you know > that unless you have that data (including living people) organized and > accessible? > Family Tree might be useful in having youth (whose family info is likely > already in the database) find their ancestors, but without a working > database that links everyone together, and puts the right info in the right > place, I can't even imagine using it to submit Temple work... > > > Regards, Fred > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are right, Shanna. When a new patron shows up to get started, they usually bring a few scraps of paper and a "folder of documents" with, like, two birth certificates at most. I get them right on to Family Tree and offer a successful experience submitting the names of grandparents, uncles, aunts and great-grandparents, with a clear warning to get permission under the 110-year rule (the system helps a lot with that, too). But Renee is also right that desktop programs are and will continue to be a lot more powerful -- so "genealogists" will definitely need them at some point. I think it is all about the "milk before meat" concept. -- Jorge > From: shannasjones@msn.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:44:24 -0600 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Do I Still Need a Desktop Genealogy Program or is Family Tree Enough? > > Please don't make every patron purchase a third party product just to begin > their family history and submit one name. The Family History department is > trying to create success experiences and I have had several patrons go to > family history centers only to become so overwhelmed and discouraged because > they have to buy RootsMagic and sync with PAF and then sync with RootsMagic > and Family Tree and all they really wanted to do was to look at their family > tree and see if their great grandpa had his work done. We do not need to > make every patron become a genealogist, we want to turn their hearts first. > > > Family History Center workers and consultants are not allowed to recommend > or insist that anyone use or buy a third-party product. They are to refer > them to familysearch.org/products and let them chose for themselves. > > Yes, I use third-party products, as many as I can and I love them, but I've > been at this for over 20 years. But it is so overwhelming for new people > (you know the 97.5% of adult members who don't do family history) that we > want them to have success using Family Tree first, then we will let them > decide if they need another product to make charts, add their grandchildren, > organize, do research etc. Please don't scare them away and overwhelm them, > help them have a positive experience. > > Ok, off the soap box...... > Shanna Jones > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Shipley > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:11 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Do I Still Need a Desktop Genealogy Program or is > Family Tree Enough? > > Thanks Renee for a great recap of the discussions at RootsTech 2013! > I have been emphasizing this to the patrons in my Family History Center for > a number of years. Sometimes they listen. They especially take note when > their family information gets changed and they don't know how to correct it. > > > I too would like to post this in my center and re-emphasize it to my staff, > if it's alright with you. > > Kathy Shipley > Director > Yuba City CA Stake FHCtr > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alice This isn't just for Stake Temple Days...this is EVERY DAY!! How are we going to get FamilySearch back to the original premise (as I understood it in 2007) which is that any submitted name will go to whichever temple in the world needs names, not just your zip code temple? That would equalize the flow and maybe I wouldn't have names taking two years to finish!! Michele In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:43:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aiallen@iinet.com writes: I am also in the Portland temple district. Whenever I've been there on a Ward/Stake day, I've seen piles of name slips on the counter with a Stake & Ward card behind it, for patrons to take a name if they'd like. Would think there are also name slips on other days as well--we can't be the only stake who has patrons doing this. Alice Allen Oakhurst Ward/Vancouver WA Stake -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Lou Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:18 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple This is just an opinion from a Family History Consultant and Temple Patron. I like the idea of having a place for our Stake Temple Names to be done. We have a large Temple the Portland Temple. I think it would help us draw closer as a Stake. I would be delighted to work on Stake names as well as my own. Of course I know we need to do what is best. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At the Porto Alegre Brazil temple, patrons are allowed to submit only ten names or less at a time. I remember once I had 12 sealings to parents and the clerk would not print them, even when I argued that 12 sealings to parents would get done that same evening in a matter of minutes, much less than 10 baptism-through-endowment cards. He agreed to ask the temple president, though, who agreed with me. So I know that the rule is enforced to submit few names at a time to make sure members can get through them themselves within reasonable time. If one has too many submissions, then that should be done through the system to send to whatever temples are available to work. > From: jbcowley@rmci.net > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:34:19 -0600 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple > > It seems to me that the temples were advised not to do wholesale > over-the-counter family file names but to encourage people to submit them > through the system about the time that formal name extraction ended (around > 2011). We are all going to need to submit names to provide "temple names" > for our brethren who are not so fortunate right now. > > But about the time the First Presidency letter came out last fall, there was > a huge number of cards just surrendered to the temples, particularly male > endowments and sealings. Our temple has enough male endowments from that > event to last two or three years, so the online names given to the temple > have slowed down. > > Each temple has some unique attendance characteristics and will set some > practices accordingly. What works for one may work for others with similar > characteristics, but not all others. > > We need to encourage temple attendance in general as well as with family > file names. > > We also need to remember that we see things from our own needs and > perspectives and are not privy to some of the overall trends that those in > other callings may have. All the names submitted to the temple will > eventually get done. > > Jerry > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 8335 (20130515) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

a major problem here - PAF does not have any codes covering any announced/built Temples since 2000. David Samuelsen On 5/15/2013 11:09 AM, SCOTT KATHY wrote: > Shanna, PAF is the personal program I encourage new researchers to use > to get them hooked. It is free and teaches them the disciplines of > accurate work. Moving on to more can be easily discerned. > But I think you are making some very valid points; we should always > we aware of where our patrons are coming from and judge our advice > suits that. > > Thanks, > > Kathy from England

The point is that with "shared" names which are sent to the temple district you ARE working on local names submissions. Now they are just creating another layer. I'm still not happy and wondering if this will double the time necessary for my names to get done. I lost 200 cards when I sent them to the temple with a high councilor for a stake YSA baptism years ago. That's why I exclusively have used the "shared" button over the years. This just seems like a good way to lose cards to me. Not all high councilors are created equally :-) Michele In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:19:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lyngene@gmail.com writes: This is just an opinion from a Family History Consultant and Temple Patron. I like the idea of having a place for our Stake Temple Names to be done. We have a large Temple the Portland Temple. I think it would help us draw closer as a Stake. I would be delighted to work on Stake names as well as my own. Of course I know we need to do what is best. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Shanna Jones <shannasjones@msn.com> wrote: > Names released to the temple system in 2009 and before have a glitch. I'd > give you a KD but the whole system is down. You have to go in and release > each one and reserve them again to ever get them going again because there > are too many for the engineers to work with. > Shanna > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W David > Samuelsen > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:24 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] New system at the temple > > Rather than hearing from 3rd party, I called Newport Beach Temple's > recorder > office. Here is what they said. > > This is the system they developed to serve 16 stakes. > > It is working very well. > > Patrons bring in their cards to be filed with their stake file drawers that > are set up in foyer area. > > Each week the stake coordinators come in to pick up the completed cards and > take back to their stakes to be returned to the persons. (the stake do > maintain membership lists within their stakes, which is possible through > stake/ward website via lds.org) > > To each temple a system is developed whatever work best. > > The ones I released to temple system are still there since 2009. > > My stake is assigned to 3 different temples due to language restrction at > Salt Lake Temple which is English only. My stake has 4 different languages, > English, Japanese (Dai Ichi, oldest Japanese speaking ward), Spanish and > ASL > (sign language.) > > This is something your stake might consider as a way forward to help > members > get more done. > > W. David Samuelsen > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message