Having taught genealogy for about seven years  and being inactive about eight years. Now, I am about to see my dear mother, a non member, pass on. We are looking for her mother's grave. The cemetery has been unkempt for several years  and no grave marker. My suggestion is please put the plot number in your personal records where relatives are buried. I have the cemeteries but no plots numbers. My reason for suggesting this, today I was hunting my grand mother's grave and not only did I not find it but there is no record of her being buried there. If I had only thought to ask for and write down the plot number, in 1977, today I could give my mother one of her finial wishes.      Harry L. I am not a REPUBLICAN / I am not a DEMOCRACTI am not an INDEPENDENT / I AM AN AMERICANAnd I want my country back --- On Fri, 6/14/13, jcbrooks@aol.com <jcbrooks@aol.com> wrote: From: jcbrooks@aol.com <jcbrooks@aol.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Missing Ordinances To: "lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com" <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 14, 2013, 12:28 PM Send the temple data to feedback. They can look it up/verify through temple records and reinstate it Michele Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> wrote: > The ordinances were attached to the PID's of people I entered into the system.  I submitted the temple work.  The temple work still shows up attached to these people in New Family Search but does not show up for the same people in Family Tree.  I don't see how combining duplicates would reinstate temple information for people who have had their work done and are identified by their PID or other characteristics.  I would not expect temple work done for a particular person and entered into NFS for that person would then get attached to another PID.  If I am missing something here, pls let me know.  Hope that makes sense. > > I am wondering if others are finding that temple ordinance data is in NFS but does not make it to Family Tree. > > Gay >  ----- Original Message ----- >  From: JCBrooks@aol.com >  To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 5:45 PM >  Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Missing Ordinances > > >  Maybe you need to check for duplicates.  They may be attached to  another >  PID > >  Michele > > >  In a message dated 6/13/2013 5:35:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  >  grdavis@centurytel.net writes: > >  I notice  that a lot of ordinances I have done are not in Family Tree--some >  done several  years ago--but they are in New Family Search.  Should I be >  doing anything  about this or will it gradually get worked out. > >  Please send the one  word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to  >  LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM  >  ------------------------------- >  To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to >  LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >  subject and the body of the  message > > >  Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >  ------------------------------- >  To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I will probably have to do that as soon as I have time to gather the information. There is more than one person. ----- Original Message ----- From: jcbrooks@aol.com To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Missing Ordinances Send the temple data to feedback. They can look it up/verify through temple records and reinstate it Michele Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> wrote: > The ordinances were attached to the PID's of people I entered into the system. I submitted the temple work. The temple work still shows up attached to these people in New Family Search but does not show up for the same people in Family Tree. I don't see how combining duplicates would reinstate temple information for people who have had their work done and are identified by their PID or other characteristics. I would not expect temple work done for a particular person and entered into NFS for that person would then get attached to another PID. If I am missing something here, pls let me know. Hope that makes sense. > > I am wondering if others are finding that temple ordinance data is in NFS but does not make it to Family Tree. > > Gay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JCBrooks@aol.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Missing Ordinances > > > Maybe you need to check for duplicates. They may be attached to another > PID > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/13/2013 5:35:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > grdavis@centurytel.net writes: > > I notice that a lot of ordinances I have done are not in Family Tree--some > done several years ago--but they are in New Family Search. Should I be > doing anything about this or will it gradually get worked out. > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Send the temple data to feedback. They can look it up/verify through temple records and reinstate it Michele Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> wrote: > The ordinances were attached to the PID's of people I entered into the system. I submitted the temple work. The temple work still shows up attached to these people in New Family Search but does not show up for the same people in Family Tree. I don't see how combining duplicates would reinstate temple information for people who have had their work done and are identified by their PID or other characteristics. I would not expect temple work done for a particular person and entered into NFS for that person would then get attached to another PID. If I am missing something here, pls let me know. Hope that makes sense. > > I am wondering if others are finding that temple ordinance data is in NFS but does not make it to Family Tree. > > Gay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JCBrooks@aol.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Missing Ordinances > > > Maybe you need to check for duplicates. They may be attached to another > PID > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/13/2013 5:35:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > grdavis@centurytel.net writes: > > I notice that a lot of ordinances I have done are not in Family Tree--some > done several years ago--but they are in New Family Search. Should I be > doing anything about this or will it gradually get worked out. > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The ordinances were attached to the PID's of people I entered into the system. I submitted the temple work. The temple work still shows up attached to these people in New Family Search but does not show up for the same people in Family Tree. I don't see how combining duplicates would reinstate temple information for people who have had their work done and are identified by their PID or other characteristics. I would not expect temple work done for a particular person and entered into NFS for that person would then get attached to another PID. If I am missing something here, pls let me know. Hope that makes sense. I am wondering if others are finding that temple ordinance data is in NFS but does not make it to Family Tree. Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: JCBrooks@aol.com To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Missing Ordinances Maybe you need to check for duplicates. They may be attached to another PID Michele In a message dated 6/13/2013 5:35:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, grdavis@centurytel.net writes: I notice that a lot of ordinances I have done are not in Family Tree--some done several years ago--but they are in New Family Search. Should I be doing anything about this or will it gradually get worked out. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maybe you need to check for duplicates. They may be attached to another PID Michele In a message dated 6/13/2013 5:35:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, grdavis@centurytel.net writes: I notice that a lot of ordinances I have done are not in Family Tree--some done several years ago--but they are in New Family Search. Should I be doing anything about this or will it gradually get worked out. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you checked for duplicates? Miles Meyer Jacksonville, FL "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss, The Lorax On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Gay Davis <grdavis@centurytel.net> wrote: > I notice that a lot of ordinances I have done are not in Family Tree--some > done several years ago--but they are in New Family Search. Should I be > doing anything about this or will it gradually get worked out. > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I notice that a lot of ordinances I have done are not in Family Tree--some done several years ago--but they are in New Family Search. Should I be doing anything about this or will it gradually get worked out.

checking to see the list is back alive after the bounces yesterday. Please do not reply. W. David Samuelsen

You can certainly unlink the incorrect parents from your line. FamilySearch will be able to correct other things (incorrect ordinance work) that may still show when the tool is available to do so. It is a case by case basis depending on the situation. If you have multiple incorrect combining in new.familysearch that has created different people being merged into one person, that is a different story. You can still call (or e-mail) in the problem and a case will be created--just know that a solution will not be immediate. -----Original Message----- From: Gay Davis Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:10 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fw: Separating or Combining Individuals in Family Tree It sounds like I need to wait before trying to unlink those incorrect parents from one of my lines because the Family Tree program is not working properly yet. Is that a correct understanding? ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Samuelsen To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fw: Separating or Combining Individuals in Family Tree Got reply this morning from them... David Samuelsen Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. There was an e-mail sent out to you because you are waiting on records that were incorrectly combined. We would like you to know that our staff is working very quickly to solve these matters. The letter asked you to preform four steps, please disregard those steps. We ask your patients as our people continue to resolve data issues. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1. In my humble opinion, Ancestral Quest is what a fully updated PAF program would look like. I made the switch some years ago and found the new program like working with an old friend, with added features. There was a bit of a learning curve on the new features, but there would be a learning curve if PAF was updated. > the millions they are spending on trying to iron out Family> Tree, you'd think a few simple updates to PAF would be a cinch. I agree > with other. PAF and Family Insight are easy. 2. Reference Knowledge Document 106162, A record has information for more than one person. This knowledge document is still available in Family Tree using the search terms above. We can still call support with this issue. The response that was received by persons with cases already in the system was not as clear as it could have been, in my opinion. We are being told, "For your information (& if you wish to inform your patron),​ this case has not been forgotten (& the "Waiting For Patron Response is just a computer memo...not to worry),​ but cases that need Match/​Merge or separating out are on hold while the engineers work on a glitch in the system. This may take some time so you may wish to mention this to future patrons with the same issues. Please be patient. Thank you."

It sounds like I need to wait before trying to unlink those incorrect parents from one of my lines because the Family Tree program is not working properly yet. Is that a correct understanding? ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Samuelsen To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fw: Separating or Combining Individuals in Family Tree Got reply this morning from them... David Samuelsen Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. There was an e-mail sent out to you because you are waiting on records that were incorrectly combined. We would like you to know that our staff is working very quickly to solve these matters. The letter asked you to preform four steps, please disregard those steps. We ask your patients as our people continue to resolve data issues. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Got reply this morning from them... David Samuelsen Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. There was an e-mail sent out to you because you are waiting on records that were incorrectly combined. We would like you to know that our staff is working very quickly to solve these matters. The letter asked you to preform four steps, please disregard those steps. We ask your patients as our people continue to resolve data issues.

it's a canned reply. I got one too and it does not make any sense at all, a direct contradiction of 106612 Bottom line, this message is giving wrong impression - ok to combine same names with similiar birthdates, etc but actually different persons. David On 6/11/2013 5:35 PM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > Comments please. > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Support@FamilySearch.org> > To: <undisclosed-recipients:> > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:06 PM > Subject: Separating or Combining Individuals in Family Tree > > >> Dear FamilySearch Patron: >> >> Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We appreciate your diligence in >> maintaining accurate family history records. You have asked us to correct >> information in new FamilySearch or Family Tree. Often, correcting >> information in new FamilySearch or Family Tree involves combining or >> separating records in new FamilySearch. Currently, combining and >> separating records in new FamilySearch causes the records in Family Tree >> to reset to what is in new FamilySearch. This has the potential to reverse >> any changes made to the records in Family Tree. In order to preserve the >> work that you and other patrons have done in Family Tree, we are no longer >> separating or combining records in new FamilySearch. >> When you find incorrect information in Family Tree, (including multiple >> individuals in one record), do one or more of the following: >> 1. Correct the incorrect information in Family Tree, including all >> genealogical and relationship data. If you need to view the details of the >> record, go to new.FamilySearch.org, and display the combined record. >> 2. In Family Tree, check the possible duplicates, and merge duplicate >> persons. >> 3. Indicate persons who are not a match to prevent the records from being >> merged incorrectly in the future. >> 4. Create a new record for the individual(s) whose information did not >> come across from new FamilySearch, linking the new record(s) to the >> correct family. >> Family Tree is continuously being improved to allow patrons to >> independently resolve data inaccuracies and issues in their family >> pedigree, part of this improvement is better tools to help us assist >> patrons in resolving data challenges they are not able to address >> themselves. We are currently waiting for the tools in Family Tree to be >> fully developed in order to assist you. We ask for your patience as we >> wait for these to be completed and available to our team. We wish you >> success in your family history endeavors. >> >> Sincerely, >> FamilySearch >> Support@FamilySearch.org >> 866-406-1830 >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In addition to what I already said earlier, this one I sent to product manager. The announcement has to be dumbest I have ever received. Read my replies to understand why. Consider this case this afternoon... Harriet A. Day LZYG-DFV or is it Minnie Day or is it Jane Ella Day or is it Statia Bell or is it Stacy Lucinda Bell? (take a peek in nFS for yourself.) Whose ordinances are hers, or is hers, or is hers, or is hers, or is hers. Bottom line, the lady I was working with, said these ordinances are split betwwen Harriet, Minnie and Jane. She had the paper copy she kept to keep track so she know whose ordinances are. Only way to deal with this is to continue KB 106612 and eliminate the "borrowed ordinances" and other identities. On 6/11/2013 5:35 PM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > Comments please. > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Support@FamilySearch.org> > To: <undisclosed-recipients:> > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:06 PM > Subject: Separating or Combining Individuals in Family Tree > > >> Dear FamilySearch Patron: >> >> Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We appreciate your diligence in >> maintaining accurate family history records. You have asked us to correct >> information in new FamilySearch or Family Tree. Often, correcting >> information in new FamilySearch or Family Tree involves combining or >> separating records in new FamilySearch. Currently, combining and >> separating records in new FamilySearch causes the records in Family Tree >> to reset to what is in new FamilySearch. This has the potential to reverse >> any changes made to the records in Family Tree. In order to preserve the >> work that you and other patrons have done in Family Tree, we are no longer >> separating or combining records in new FamilySearch. >> When you find incorrect information in Family Tree, (including multiple >> individuals in one record), do one or more of the following: >> 1. Correct the incorrect information in Family Tree, including all >> genealogical and relationship data. If you need to view the details of the >> record, go to new.FamilySearch.org, and display the combined record. >> 2. In Family Tree, check the possible duplicates, and merge duplicate >> persons. >> 3. Indicate persons who are not a match to prevent the records from being >> merged incorrectly in the future. >> 4. Create a new record for the individual(s) whose information did not >> come across from new FamilySearch, linking the new record(s) to the >> correct family. >> Family Tree is continuously being improved to allow patrons to >> independently resolve data inaccuracies and issues in their family >> pedigree, part of this improvement is better tools to help us assist >> patrons in resolving data challenges they are not able to address >> themselves. We are currently waiting for the tools in Family Tree to be >> fully developed in order to assist you. We ask for your patience as we >> wait for these to be completed and available to our team. We wish you >> success in your family history endeavors. >> >> Sincerely, >> FamilySearch >> Support@FamilySearch.org >> 866-406-1830 >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

look at my reply on the list about the ordinances. David On 6/11/2013 9:28 PM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > Yes, I certianly know how to do that but it really messes up the ordinance > work in many, many ways. The way it is now but correcting your problem you > create a problem for someone else. In addition the temple work becomes > confused and you can have the incorrect ordinance work for the wrong person. > > Steve Kelsey > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Amadori" <amadori33@verizon.net> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fw: Fw: Separating or Combining Individuals in > FamilyTree > > >> It is easy to delete incorrect relationships inFamily Tree and I have >> not found instability in the program. In fact, is easier to fix errors >> there than in new.familysearch! >> >> Simplygo to the Person View for the person with the incorrect parents, >> hover your mouse over the person's name under the parents. When you see >> Edit Relationship, click on it and then click on Delete Relationship, >> give a reason and you are done. >> >> It should work like a charm. >> >> If you'd like to review how to use Family Tree see >> https://familysearch.org/tree-training. >> >> Ann A. >> >> On 6/11/2013 8:13 PM, Gay Davis wrote: >> Steve, Thanks for passing that on. I found that someone had given a >> person in my line parents that did not belong to him. I contacted the >> person and sent some documentation regarding the true parents. He >> promptly responded and said he would "unreserve" his entries. I >> explained that "unreserving" them would result in the incorrect parents >> still being attached to the line and asked if he would unlink the >> incorrect parents. He sent me his name and password and asked me to do >> it. I was a little surprised, but probably he is not familiar with >> Family Tree and neither am I. I have dragged my feet working with it, >> hoping the program would become more stable. Now I need to go in and >> unlink these "parents" from the family line, so your instructions came >> at a good time even though they don't specifically address unlinking an >> individual. I hope one can do that. Thanks for sending them and wish me >> luck. Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Kelsey > Dear >> FamilySearch Patron: > > Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We >> appreciate your diligence in > maintaining accurate family history >> records. You have asked us to correct >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

no so fast! The ordinances are stuck. That is the reason for 106612 for separations. Edit, delete, etc will NOT solve the problems at all UNTIL the nFS is 100 percent shut off to read only. Only then there is still the major problem of "borrowed" ordinances remaining to be dealt with. David Samuelsen On 6/11/2013 7:06 PM, Ann Amadori wrote: > It is easy to delete incorrect relationships inFamily Tree and I have > not found instability in the program. In fact, is easier to fix errors > there than in new.familysearch! > > Simplygo to the Person View for the person with the incorrect parents, > hover your mouse over the person's name under the parents. When you see > Edit Relationship, click on it and then click on Delete Relationship, > give a reason and you are done. > > It should work like a charm.

What do you do when you are working in "duplicates" and one is really a duplicate but marked "not a match?" Michele In a message dated 6/11/2013 4:37:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sjkelsey@msn.com writes: Comments please. Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: <Support@FamilySearch.org> To: <undisclosed-recipients:> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Separating or Combining Individuals in Family Tree > Dear FamilySearch Patron: > > Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We appreciate your diligence in > maintaining accurate family history records. You have asked us to correct > information in new FamilySearch or Family Tree. Often, correcting > information in new FamilySearch or Family Tree involves combining or > separating records in new FamilySearch. Currently, combining and > separating records in new FamilySearch causes the records in Family Tree > to reset to what is in new FamilySearch. This has the potential to reverse > any changes made to the records in Family Tree. In order to preserve the > work that you and other patrons have done in Family Tree, we are no longer > separating or combining records in new FamilySearch. > When you find incorrect information in Family Tree, (including multiple > individuals in one record), do one or more of the following: > 1. Correct the incorrect information in Family Tree, including all > genealogical and relationship data. If you need to view the details of the > record, go to new.FamilySearch.org, and display the combined record. > 2. In Family Tree, check the possible duplicates, and merge duplicate > persons. > 3. Indicate persons who are not a match to prevent the records from being > merged incorrectly in the future. > 4. Create a new record for the individual(s) whose information did not > come across from new FamilySearch, linking the new record(s) to the > correct family. > Family Tree is continuously being improved to allow patrons to > independently resolve data inaccuracies and issues in their family > pedigree, part of this improvement is better tools to help us assist > patrons in resolving data challenges they are not able to address > themselves. We are currently waiting for the tools in Family Tree to be > fully developed in order to assist you. We ask for your patience as we > wait for these to be completed and available to our team. We wish you > success in your family history endeavors. > > Sincerely, > FamilySearch > Support@FamilySearch.org > 866-406-1830 > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks In a message dated 6/11/2013 3:16:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cathetaylor1@comcast.net writes: Michele, FamilyInsight does much more than just interact between PAF and new.familysearch. It will continue to be useful after new.familysearch goes away. I use it for comparing two PAF files and I also like the duplicate combining better than the one in PAF. I believe it works with more than just PAF. There will be many who will be resistant to a learning curve with other programs. There are those who do not feel the need to interact with FamilyTree. PAF will be okay for them to continue using, but others should be encouraged to consider another program. It is true that PAF can be used in conjunction with Ancestral Quest by converting PAF Files to AQ files, then searching/merging with Family Tree, then being converted back to a PAF Files. There are lots of options for people but it is important to find out just what they want in a program and how they plan to use it. I still use PAF as my main file, but do convert back and forth to AQ. I also use FamilyInsight and will probably purchase the new program when it comes out by Ohana to link with Family Tree. It is a good idea to update to newer programs so they all play well together with newer technology. I resist changes if it means I have a big learning curve simply because of the time associated with getting familiar with something new, but in the end I am always glad I did because there are less problems. We will not continue to support PAF nor provide the free download indefinitely at FamilySearch. To answer your question, PAF Insight will not sync with Family Tree but it will continue to perform other tasks with your computer program. Cathe Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia H. Sonneborn Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:03 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] FamilyInsight Announcement Directly from Ohana Newsletter Michele asked: Can anyone else confirm that Family Insight is not going to work? Ohana Software is still selling it. Michele Answer from Ohana's Newsletter: Insights into FamilyInsight: Change is in the Air After careful consideration we have decided that AncestorSync will become our vehicle to work with the FamilySearch Family Tree and FamilyInsight will return to its original purpose as a premier tool for cleanup, file to file comparison and update, and file conversion tool. As collaboration options increase, these two programs will function well together so you can send files that are well maintained. For now, FamilyInsight will continue to work with new FamilySearch as long as new.familysearch.org is viable. However, there are some features that you should not use. When you are in the Full Synchronization mode, do not combine or separate records. If there are multiple possible matches, find the best match, mark it as a Match, mark the others as Not a Match, then synchronize the record. If a record has been incorrectly combined, you can no longer separate from within FamilyInsight as the FamilySearch Family Tree deals with this issue differently. If you try to combine or separate records, you will receive an error message. If you choose to add new information to the record on FamilySearch, take the additional step to verify that the summary information is correct. You can do this using the FamilyInsight View/Change Summary button on the upper right part of the Details window. The summary information is updated to the Family Tree. AncestorSync is still in development and it is not ready for sale yet. We have overcome huge obstacles and we are now focused on perfecting data retention for each file format that we will work with. It is exciting to see the progress but we still have a lot of work to do. Keep reading the newsletter to stay informed about beta testing and release information. Thank you for your continued support. We look forward to providing you with great tools and new products as we move forward. Thank you for using FamilyInsight! Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I certianly know how to do that but it really messes up the ordinance work in many, many ways. The way it is now but correcting your problem you create a problem for someone else. In addition the temple work becomes confused and you can have the incorrect ordinance work for the wrong person. Steve Kelsey . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Amadori" <amadori33@verizon.net> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fw: Fw: Separating or Combining Individuals in FamilyTree > It is easy to delete incorrect relationships inFamily Tree and I have > not found instability in the program. In fact, is easier to fix errors > there than in new.familysearch! > > Simplygo to the Person View for the person with the incorrect parents, > hover your mouse over the person's name under the parents. When you see > Edit Relationship, click on it and then click on Delete Relationship, > give a reason and you are done. > > It should work like a charm. > > If you'd like to review how to use Family Tree see > https://familysearch.org/tree-training. > > Ann A. > > On 6/11/2013 8:13 PM, Gay Davis wrote: > Steve, Thanks for passing that on. I found that someone had given a > person in my line parents that did not belong to him. I contacted the > person and sent some documentation regarding the true parents. He > promptly responded and said he would "unreserve" his entries. I > explained that "unreserving" them would result in the incorrect parents > still being attached to the line and asked if he would unlink the > incorrect parents. He sent me his name and password and asked me to do > it. I was a little surprised, but probably he is not familiar with > Family Tree and neither am I. I have dragged my feet working with it, > hoping the program would become more stable. Now I need to go in and > unlink these "parents" from the family line, so your instructions came > at a good time even though they don't specifically address unlinking an > individual. I hope one can do that. Thanks for sending them and wish me > luck. Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Kelsey > Dear > FamilySearch Patron: > > Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We > appreciate your diligence in > maintaining accurate family history > records. You have asked us to correct > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It is easy to delete incorrect relationships inFamily Tree and I have not found instability in the program. In fact, is easier to fix errors there than in new.familysearch! Simplygo to the Person View for the person with the incorrect parents, hover your mouse over the person's name under the parents. When you see Edit Relationship, click on it and then click on Delete Relationship, give a reason and you are done. It should work like a charm. If you'd like to review how to use Family Tree see https://familysearch.org/tree-training. Ann A. On 6/11/2013 8:13 PM, Gay Davis wrote: Steve, Thanks for passing that on. I found that someone had given a person in my line parents that did not belong to him. I contacted the person and sent some documentation regarding the true parents. He promptly responded and said he would "unreserve" his entries. I explained that "unreserving" them would result in the incorrect parents still being attached to the line and asked if he would unlink the incorrect parents. He sent me his name and password and asked me to do it. I was a little surprised, but probably he is not familiar with Family Tree and neither am I. I have dragged my feet working with it, hoping the program would become more stable. Now I need to go in and unlink these "parents" from the family line, so your instructions came at a good time even though they don't specifically address unlinking an individual. I hope one can do that. Thanks for sending them and wish me luck. Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Kelsey > Dear FamilySearch Patron: > > Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We appreciate your diligence in > maintaining accurate family history records. You have asked us to correct