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    1. Re: [LDS-WC] entering sources
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. I still have to do it anyway to nail down specific info and to prevent wrong duplicate merging. David Jorge Todeschini wrote: > I hardly ever bother with sources in nFS at this point. So far, the source > is "me" and I can be contacted for details. > > I agree with you, Bro. Samuelsen, the current format is a waste of time. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:11 PM > To: "LDS Ward Consultant" <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com>; "Labs Family > Tree" <Labs_FamilyTree@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [LDS-WC] entering sources > >> Arthur C. M. Kelly, compiler, Baptism record of Shokan Reformed church, >> Shokan, Ulster County, New York, 1799-1899, Includes membership lists, >> 1799-1898; and deaths, 1856-1898. (Rhinebeck, New York : Kelly, c1987), >> Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah >> 84150 USA, 974.734/S3 K2k. >> >> This is what I have in my records for the individuals. >> >> What is so despicable? >> >> Having to break up the source into individual items to fit in the broken >> up "Source" format. What a waste of time EACH TIME. >> >> What's worse? Where's the specific entry for CHURCH record under >> "Published Information"? >> >> And for Family Tree - where is the tab to enter sources? >> >> W. David Samuelsen >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    03/26/2009 06:47:53
    1. [LDS-WC] entering sources
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. Arthur C. M. Kelly, compiler, Baptism record of Shokan Reformed church, Shokan, Ulster County, New York, 1799-1899, Includes membership lists, 1799-1898; and deaths, 1856-1898. (Rhinebeck, New York : Kelly, c1987), Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA, 974.734/S3 K2k. This is what I have in my records for the individuals. What is so despicable? Having to break up the source into individual items to fit in the broken up "Source" format. What a waste of time EACH TIME. What's worse? Where's the specific entry for CHURCH record under "Published Information"? And for Family Tree - where is the tab to enter sources? W. David Samuelsen

    03/26/2009 05:11:08
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] PAF ordinances code
    2. Joseph
    3. But we must keep in mind that sometimes all the children are not listed, so might give you a false sense of all the work being done. We have to be sure all the children are accounted for. ______________________________________________________________________ ordinances for all children were all done. This include their spouses' sealings. David Samuelsen Janet Nielsen wrote: On my PAF ordinance print out it reads BEPSC. What does the C stand for?

    03/26/2009 03:15:46
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] PAF ordinances code
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. ordinances for all children were all done. This include their spouses' sealings. David Samuelsen Janet Nielsen wrote: > On my PAF ordinance print out it reads BEPSC. What does the C stand for? > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    03/25/2009 06:46:16
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] PAF ordinances code
    2. Gaylon Findlay
    3. The 'C' indicates that all of the ordinances are done for all of the children of this person. Gaylon Janet Nielsen wrote: > On my PAF ordinance print out it reads BEPSC. What does the C stand for? > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    03/25/2009 06:31:30
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] PAF ordinances code
    2. Gay Davis
    3. It means all the ordinance work for the children is completed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Nielsen To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:51 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] PAF ordinances code On my PAF ordinance print out it reads BEPSC. What does the C stand for? Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/25/2009 05:25:41
    1. [LDS-WC] Copying books etc.
    2. Dave Palmer
    3. Paula said: I'm trying to deal with several typed bound volumes of a life history. Each is about 200 pages. I want to make copies for other family members. Please keep in mind the copyrights on any thing you copy. If has not expired you do need the authors permission. If you are copying large amounts of information you are not likely to get it without fees. If you do use copyrighted information illegally the penalties can be very steep. DLP Silverdale

    03/25/2009 05:21:39
    1. [LDS-WC] PAF ordinances code
    2. Janet Nielsen
    3. On my PAF ordinance print out it reads BEPSC.  What does the C stand for?

    03/25/2009 04:51:08
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Copying books etc.
    2. Paula Goodfellow
    3. These are personal journals from a deceased relative who wanted it distributed, so it should be fine, but thanks for the heads up. Paula On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Dave Palmer wrote: > Paula said: > I'm trying to deal with several typed bound volumes of a life > history. Each is about 200 pages. I want to make copies for other > family members. > Please keep in mind the copyrights on any thing you copy. If has > not expired you do need the authors permission. If you are copying > large amounts of information you are not likely to get it without > fees. If you do use copyrighted information illegally the penalties > can be very steep. DLP Silverdale > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    03/25/2009 10:35:08
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Question about PAF scrapbooks
    2. Gaylon Findlay
    3. Ray: You can't directly print all the scrapbook items for an individual on the descendancy report. However, you can print all the scrapbook pages for all the individuals on a descendancy report as separate pages. Just go to the Reports/Charts screen, select the Scrapbook tab, then check the box for "Use List". Now highlight the main person of your descendants report and select "Descendants" of that person in the relationship filter. Now select any other options for your scrapbook pages and print. (Preview first :-) ) Hope this helps. Gaylon RAY FRIESS wrote: > > > A question has come up about a PAF function that I have been unable to find an answer for. > > Maybe someone here can help. > > > > When printing a report, specifically a descendancy report from the book tab, how can you tell it to also print all the > > photos on the scrapbook pages for an individual or all individuals in the descendancy report? > > > > Thanks... > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    03/24/2009 11:22:08
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. That means the form with barcode to take from your home computer to Ogden Temple to do it. David Samuelsen DORIS BATEMAN wrote: > I just called Ogden Temple, and they said they had just gotten the ability to print temple cards from the FORS. > > Doris Bateman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: W. David Samuelsen<mailto:dsam52@sampubco.com> > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com<mailto:lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:18 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs? > > > you mean the form with barcode? > > David Samuelsen > > kinman kinman wrote: > > The Bountiful Temple also has the ability. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Shanna Jones <shannasjones@msn.com<mailto:shannasjones@msn.com>> wrote: > > > >> The St. George Temple has the ability to print from FORs, I've done it > >> myself. Monticello also has the ability. > >> Shanna Jones > >> > >> > >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    03/24/2009 04:58:48
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. Virginia M. Cazier
    3. Jill, we appreciate your insights and your positive attitude!!! V Cazier, So FL -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill N. Crandell Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:49 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs? David wrote: you answered your own question in your reply to Ray Friess. Actually, I didn't. I was pointing out that if the roll-out was to be completed by July/August 2009, there would be no need for the issues that we are dealing with for our family history teaching from September to December 2009. We had a full discussion with FamilySearch folks from Salt Lake, and we were not told that the roll-out would be completed before the semester starts. As you might imagine, it's very difficult to teach a group of students when some have access to NFS and others do not. We have been creating double assignments for awhile, depending on what the students have had access to. It has been a pain, but we are working with it. I'm not complaining, it's just a logistical issue for us. This is much different from teaching a ward where everyone has the same tools--regardless of what those tools are. David wrote: Each Temple district is brought into the system one a a time or 2. At this point, Utah and Idaho are being rolled out by stake, not temple district. It will be interesting to see how fast this process is completed. Personally, I'm not counting on anything this summer. It will be nice if it happens, but if not, we move forward anyway. "Come what may, and love it!" Jill Crandell Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/24/2009 02:38:31
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. DORIS BATEMAN
    3. I just called Ogden Temple, and they said they had just gotten the ability to print temple cards from the FORS. Doris Bateman ----- Original Message ----- From: W. David Samuelsen<mailto:dsam52@sampubco.com> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com<mailto:lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs? you mean the form with barcode? David Samuelsen kinman kinman wrote: > The Bountiful Temple also has the ability. > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Shanna Jones <shannasjones@msn.com<mailto:shannasjones@msn.com>> wrote: > >> The St. George Temple has the ability to print from FORs, I've done it >> myself. Monticello also has the ability. >> Shanna Jones >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/24/2009 01:33:30
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. Helle Thor Hirschmann
    3. I am very happy to have nFS in our area - but the obstacles I encounter are VERY basic - like members being "scared of"/"shy about" family history and computers. I end up sitting with one sister getting her registered on nFS - teaching a brother on how to seek out a church record on the computer and getting it running on his computer at home. Some are self reliant in family history like maybe 10 - 15 persons out of our ward. I have had visions of glorious steps forward for our members entering nFS ------ :-) I have found that getting the single members registered on nFS and THEN teaching the basics in nFS and in record seeking is the best solution for us. Sometimes I come across someone eager and willing - though they are few and far in between. There is nothing wrong in wanting to step forward in a major way - but finding the step on the ladder where the member is far MORE IMPORTANT than being on nFS or not. And knowing WHEN nFS roll-out is universal can also become an issue on its own. Kind greetings Helle E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.0.386) Databaseversion: 5.12020 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

    03/23/2009 06:39:04
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. you mean the form with barcode? David Samuelsen kinman kinman wrote: > The Bountiful Temple also has the ability. > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Shanna Jones <shannasjones@msn.com> wrote: > >> The St. George Temple has the ability to print from FORs, I've done it >> myself. Monticello also has the ability. >> Shanna Jones >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >

    03/23/2009 06:18:53
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. kinman kinman
    3. The Bountiful Temple also has the ability. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Shanna Jones <shannasjones@msn.com> wrote: > The St. George Temple has the ability to print from FORs, I've done it > myself. Monticello also has the ability. > Shanna Jones > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Now is Family History Time. Tommorrow is another Family History Day.

    03/23/2009 06:11:31
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. Jill, The PowerPoint lessons are already available for the nFS classes. Come what may. David Samuelsen Jill N. Crandell wrote: > David wrote: > > Actually, I didn't. I was pointing out that if the roll-out was to be > completed by July/August 2009, there would be no need for the issues that we > are dealing with for our family history teaching from September to December > 2009. We had a full discussion with FamilySearch folks from Salt Lake, and > we were not told that the roll-out would be completed before the semester > starts. As you might imagine, it's very difficult to teach a group of > students when some have access to NFS and others do not. We have been > creating double assignments for awhile, depending on what the students have > had access to. It has been a pain, but we are working with it. I'm not > complaining, it's just a logistical issue for us. This is much different > from teaching a ward where everyone has the same tools--regardless of what > those tools are.

    03/23/2009 06:11:23
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. Sandra Anderson
    3. Jill, "Come what may, and love it!" from Brother Wirthlin last conference. Mighty good counsel. Thanks, Sandy sandy_anderson41@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Jill N. Crandell <jncrandell@broadweave.net> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Date: 3/23/2009 9:49:35 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs? > > David wrote: > you answered your own question in your reply to Ray Friess. > > Actually, I didn't. I was pointing out that if the roll-out was to be > completed by July/August 2009, there would be no need for the issues that we > are dealing with for our family history teaching from September to December > 2009. We had a full discussion with FamilySearch folks from Salt Lake, and > we were not told that the roll-out would be completed before the semester > starts. As you might imagine, it's very difficult to teach a group of > students when some have access to NFS and others do not. We have been > creating double assignments for awhile, depending on what the students have > had access to. It has been a pain, but we are working with it. I'm not > complaining, it's just a logistical issue for us. This is much different > from teaching a ward where everyone has the same tools--regardless of what > those tools are. > > David wrote: > Each Temple district is brought into the system one a a time or 2. > > At this point, Utah and Idaho are being rolled out by stake, not temple > district. It will be interesting to see how fast this process is completed. > Personally, I'm not counting on anything this summer. It will be nice if it > happens, but if not, we move forward anyway. "Come what may, and love it!" > > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/23/2009 05:43:35
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. Helle Thor Hirschmann
    3. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Jill N. Crandell Sendt: 24. marts 2009 01:26 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs? David wrote: The rollout should be completed - August/September, providing there's no snafus, bugs or glitches. David, Did you get this from an "official" source? I'm wondering, because some things that were mentioned in my faculty meeting at BYU last week would not support this deadline, and we were meeting with FamilySearch people from Salt Lake. If this were the case, we would not need to make the arrangements that are being made for our family history classes this fall. Jill Crandell Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.0.386) Databaseversion: 5.12020 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.0.386) Databaseversion: 5.12020 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

    03/23/2009 04:45:01
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs?
    2. Nancy Scott
    3. David, It is not clear to me what you are trying to say in your last comment, "Reason for delays? Bugs and loads on servers." It seems to me that one could expect that software in a Beta stage would have problems with bugs and loads on servers which would result in delays. Maybe you could clarify. Thanks, Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 09:45 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Which Utah temples accept FORs? When the nFS first came out after 2nd Beta testing, it was for certain missionaries in the FHL and certain 6 districts. Then when the call up was made for next round, I was one included as Family History Consultant for my High Priest group in Nov 2007 and the instructor said to aim for completion by Nov 2008. Then when it approached, it was delayed to January 2009. Then delayed again to August 2009/September 2009. Reasons for delays? Bugs and loads on servers. David Samuelsen Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/23/2009 03:57:11