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    1. Re: [LDS-WC] totally confused/help
    2. Helle Thor Hirschmann
    3. Nancy I would go to summary and choose combined records at the bottom and look at who was combined with who and then uncombine the wrong persons. First before you do anything look at who is combined to who. A wrong wife may have to be uncombined by uncombining a husband or a child. Create an overview and then go ahead till your record is in order again. (It may be possible - you might have to ask Salt Lake for help on particularly hard cases - like the one I had where an inactive sister had submitted the parents with opposing genders and 4 out of 7 or 8 children. It is not possible to combine the children with their alter egos and the parents the same - it has been solved by Salt Lake). Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Nancy Gibert Sendt: 10. april 2009 03:52 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: [LDS-WC] totally confused/help I don't know if it is ok to discuss problems here in NFS so I can be contacted directly.I came across a big mess on my line today and don't know how to fix.I have a great great grandfather William Brown KF5S-5G9Spouse is Mary Anne Hunslow KLM3-DPGThey have a daughter Mary Ann that I picked up in 1860 census only. KJZL-L1Z 1852-1870Problems. gender is unknown. I try to edit and it will not give me female as a choice.I believe this child died before 1870 however if you click on her spouse and children it shows Mary Ann in the husband position, spouse is another Mary Ann (1857) plus another parent is Mary Ann Eckenrode, gender unknown.I don't know how this names got into my file. I don't know a Mary Ann Eckenrode. a Mary Ann Wales (M9HS-B8W)showing as the child of husband listed as my Mary Ann 1852-1870 withwife as Mary Ann 1857. There is more information linked to the child Mary Ann Wales.Any help would be appreciated.ThanksNancy nlgibert@ameritech.net Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/09/2009 07:14:25
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. So, at midnight on the one year anniversary of the date of the death, it seems that your patron needs to be up and reserving. Michele In a message dated 4/9/2009 9:39:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, grdavis@centurytel.net writes: I did contact Salt Lake and posed the question. I got the stock answer back that she should wait a year until the nfs program stated "Ready" for her mother and then she could reserve the work. They didn't really respond to my question which was whether or not she could reserve the work before the year was up. I resent my inquiry, explaining the situation, and received the following answer: "No, as explained in the previous answer, the system will not allow you to reserve ordinances for an individual before one year is up." ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Weber To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances I would contact Salt Lake and explain the situation to them. They will be able to advise your ward member of things she can do to ensure that she can do her own mother's temple work. They may have a way of blocking the cousin. It would be interesting to the list to know the answer so would appreciate it if you could share the results of your conversation with Salt Lake. Thanks Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances >I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed >her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She >has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she >is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the >ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one >year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to >do her mother's temple work? > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 3997 (20090409) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

    04/09/2009 06:55:35
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. Marian Mallder
    3. The responses you received about the patron reserving her mother would be correct. the cousin is not the closest living relative, and in all kindness should not attempt to do it. The patron will have to wait a year before doing the ordinances, but can be reserved now. If it is in her reserved list it is safe from anyone else doing it. Marian in iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances >I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed >her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She >has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she >is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the >ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one >year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to >do her mother's temple work? > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/09/2009 05:24:05
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. If I can have my parents listed and visible to me - they are living and not members, it can be done. David Samuelsen JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > So, at midnight on the one year anniversary of the date of the death, it > seems that your patron needs to be up and reserving. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 4/9/2009 9:39:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > grdavis@centurytel.net writes: > > I did contact Salt Lake and posed the question. I got the stock answer > back that she should wait a year until the nfs program stated "Ready" for her > mother and then she could reserve the work. They didn't really respond > to my question which was whether or not she could reserve the work before the > year was up. > > I resent my inquiry, explaining the situation, and received the following > answer: > "No, as explained in the previous answer, the system will not allow you to > reserve ordinances for an individual before one year is up." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jean Weber > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances > > > I would contact Salt Lake and explain the situation to them. They will be > able to advise your ward member of things she can do to ensure that she > can > do her own mother's temple work. They may have a way of blocking the > cousin. > It would be interesting to the list to know the answer so would appreciate > it if you could share the results of your conversation with Salt Lake. > > Thanks > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> > To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:19 PM > Subject: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances > > >> I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She > nursed >> her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. > She >> has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that > she >> is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the >> ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one >> year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right > to >> do her mother's temple work? >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ NOD32 3997 (20090409) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 > or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    04/09/2009 05:13:01
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. who said it has to wait. I checked of certain persons, they are reserved and "not ready" until time is up. David JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > So, at midnight on the one year anniversary of the date of the death, it > seems that your patron needs to be up and reserving. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 4/9/2009 9:39:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > grdavis@centurytel.net writes: > > I did contact Salt Lake and posed the question. I got the stock answer > back that she should wait a year until the nfs program stated "Ready" for her > mother and then she could reserve the work. They didn't really respond > to my question which was whether or not she could reserve the work before the > year was up. > > I resent my inquiry, explaining the situation, and received the following > answer: > "No, as explained in the previous answer, the system will not allow you to > reserve ordinances for an individual before one year is up." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jean Weber > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances > > > I would contact Salt Lake and explain the situation to them. They will be > able to advise your ward member of things she can do to ensure that she > can > do her own mother's temple work. They may have a way of blocking the > cousin. > It would be interesting to the list to know the answer so would appreciate > it if you could share the results of your conversation with Salt Lake. > > Thanks > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> > To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:19 PM > Subject: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances > > >> I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She > nursed >> her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. > She >> has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that > she >> is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the >> ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one >> year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right > to >> do her mother's temple work? >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ NOD32 3997 (20090409) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 > or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    04/09/2009 05:12:20
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. Helle Thor Hirschmann
    3. Busybodies do not get on ahead of the rest just because they did the ordinances. They create animosity where it should not be present. Overall, not at ALL in templework. Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af W. David Samuelsen Sendt: 10. april 2009 01:15 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances Yes she can reserve to prevent others. Also she need to tell that cousin to back off and let her take care of her mother. David Samuelsen Gay Davis wrote: > I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to do her mother's temple work? Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) Databaseversion: 6.12150 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) Databaseversion: 6.12150 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

    04/09/2009 04:44:35
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. DC & Alice Allen
    3. >From the Help Center, question: How long do I need to wait until I do the temple work for a family member who recently died? Answer: TempleReady for Windows and the new Family Search will not clear a name on the one-year anniversary of the death date. Wait at least one year and one day to clear the name. Note: If this person is your sibling, parent, or child, you can take his or her name to the temple on a family group sheet, and workers at the temple can then clear the name for ordinances. If this isn't resolved between the ward member and her distant cousin so that the ward member can do her own mother's temple work, perhaps she can take the group sheet showing herself as a child to her parents and have it done this way. Still haven't found exactly what I was looking for. Alice Allen Oakhurst Ward Family History Consultant Vancouver WA Stake Portland OR Temple District *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/9/2009 at 11:13 PM dsam52@sampubco.com wrote: >If I can have my parents listed and visible to me - they are living and >not members, it can be done. > >David Samuelsen > >JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: >> So, at midnight on the one year anniversary of the date of the death, it > >> seems that your patron needs to be up and reserving. >> >> Michele >>

    04/09/2009 04:32:58
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. DC & Alice Allen
    3. I was looking through the Help center last night and I remember seeing something on this subject, that if there is pending temple work for a close family member born within the past 95 years which has not received permission from the closest living relative to be done by someone else, to call Salt Lake. I'll have to see if I can find it again. Hopefully the mother wasn't more than 95 years old when she passed away. Alice Allen Oakhurst Ward Family History Consultant Vancouver WA Stake Portland OR Temple District *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/9/2009 at 9:38 PM grdavis@centurytel.net wrote: >Those are good thoughts, Mary. The mother was of another faith but >wanted her daughter to do her temple work. Her name and vitals have been >entered into nfs by the cousin, including the death date. I don't think >there is any way around this unless talking to the cousin as you suggest >or taking with someone in Salt Lake is helpful. These situations are >unfortunate. The ward member sobbed as she told me of her dilemma. She >was very close to her mother. It reminded me of the importance of getting >permission from next of kin before submitting names for temple work. > ----- Original Message ----- >

    04/09/2009 04:20:42
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. Gay Davis
    3. Those are good thoughts, Mary. The mother was of another faith but wanted her daughter to do her temple work. Her name and vitals have been entered into nfs by the cousin, including the death date. I don't think there is any way around this unless talking to the cousin as you suggest or taking with someone in Salt Lake is helpful. These situations are unfortunate. The ward member sobbed as she told me of her dilemma. She was very close to her mother. It reminded me of the importance of getting permission from next of kin before submitting names for temple work. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary S. Scott (Michigan) To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances Sometimes I have seen submissions on NFS for people who have not been dead a year. They are marked "not available" and no one can clear them. Was the mother a member? If so, she will be in NFS for everyone to see once the death date is entered. If she wasn't a member, then the cousin has to enter her information. This still would not give the cousin the right to do the ordinances. Perhaps the sister should ask to talk to someone who is a supervisor at New FamilySearch. Meanwhile, she could express my love and admiration to the cousin. Before tempers and feathers fly, tell this cousin how much she appreciates the interest she has on doing her mother's work. Then the friend should explain to the cousin that because this is her own mother, the friend needs to do the work herself -- particularly since she wants to be sealed to her parents. I would also put the cousins name on the prayer roll and/or pray and fast for her. She is definitely out of bounds in trying to do the mother's work. Nonetheless I think that the cousin should be lovingly taught about rights of precedence and waiting for a year after someone dies. This is an example of how the adversary uses family history and temple work to cause contention and hard feelings between members. Hope my feedback helps out in this situation. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake ________________________________ From: Gay Davis grdavis@centurytel.net I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. ... Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/09/2009 03:38:15
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. Gay Davis
    3. I did contact Salt Lake and posed the question. I got the stock answer back that she should wait a year until the nfs program stated "Ready" for her mother and then she could reserve the work. They didn't really respond to my question which was whether or not she could reserve the work before the year was up. I resent my inquiry, explaining the situation, and received the following answer: "No, as explained in the previous answer, the system will not allow you to reserve ordinances for an individual before one year is up." ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Weber To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances I would contact Salt Lake and explain the situation to them. They will be able to advise your ward member of things she can do to ensure that she can do her own mother's temple work. They may have a way of blocking the cousin. It would be interesting to the list to know the answer so would appreciate it if you could share the results of your conversation with Salt Lake. Thanks Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances >I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed >her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She >has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she >is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the >ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one >year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to >do her mother's temple work? > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 3997 (20090409) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/09/2009 03:33:26
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. Mary S. Scott (Michigan)
    3. Sometimes I have seen submissions on NFS for people who have not been dead a year. They are marked "not available" and no one can clear them. Was the mother a member? If so, she will be in NFS for everyone to see once the death date is entered. If she wasn't a member, then the cousin has to enter her information. This still would not give the cousin the right to do the ordinances. Perhaps the sister should ask to talk to someone who is a supervisor at New FamilySearch. Meanwhile, she could express my love and admiration to the cousin. Before tempers and feathers fly, tell this cousin how much she appreciates the interest she has on doing her mother's work. Then the friend should explain to the cousin that because this is her own mother, the friend needs to do the work herself -- particularly since she wants to be sealed to her parents. I would also put the cousins name on the prayer roll and/or pray and fast for her. She is definitely out of bounds in trying to do the mother's work. Nonetheless I think that the cousin should be lovingly taught about rights of precedence and waiting for a year after someone dies. This is an example of how the adversary uses family history and temple work to cause contention and hard feelings between  members. Hope my feedback helps out in this situation. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake   ________________________________ From: Gay Davis grdavis@centurytel.net I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work.  ...

    04/09/2009 02:20:40
    1. [LDS-WC] totally confused/help
    2. Nancy Gibert
    3. I don't know if it is ok to discuss problems here in NFS so I can be contacted directly.I came across a big mess on my line today and don't know how to fix.I have a great great grandfather William Brown KF5S-5G9Spouse is Mary Anne Hunslow KLM3-DPGThey have a daughter Mary Ann that I picked up in 1860 census only. KJZL-L1Z 1852-1870Problems. gender is unknown. I try to edit and it will not give me female as a choice.I believe this child died before 1870 however if you click on her spouse and children it shows Mary Ann in the husband position, spouse is another Mary Ann (1857) plus another parent is Mary Ann Eckenrode, gender unknown.I don't know how this names got into my file. I don't know a Mary Ann Eckenrode. a Mary Ann Wales (M9HS-B8W)showing as the child of husband listed as my Mary Ann 1852-1870 withwife as Mary Ann 1857. There is more information linked to the child Mary Ann Wales.Any help would be appreciated.ThanksNancy nlgibert@ameritech.net

    04/09/2009 10:21:55
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. that is true. David Helle Thor Hirschmann wrote: > Busybodies do not get on ahead of the rest just because they did the > ordinances. > > They create animosity where it should not be present. > > Overall, not at ALL in templework. > > > > Helle > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af W. David > Samuelsen > Sendt: 10. april 2009 01:15 > Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances > > > > Yes she can reserve to prevent others. Also she need to tell that cousin > > to back off and let her take care of her mother. > > > > David Samuelsen > > > > Gay Davis wrote: > >> I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed > her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She > has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she > is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the > ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one > year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to > do her mother's temple work? > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) > > Databaseversion: 6.12150 > > http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > > > > > E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) > Databaseversion: 6.12150 > http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    04/09/2009 09:35:46
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. Yes she can reserve to prevent others. Also she need to tell that cousin to back off and let her take care of her mother. David Samuelsen Gay Davis wrote: > I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to do her mother's temple work?

    04/09/2009 08:44:54
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. Jean Weber
    3. I would contact Salt Lake and explain the situation to them. They will be able to advise your ward member of things she can do to ensure that she can do her own mother's temple work. They may have a way of blocking the cousin. It would be interesting to the list to know the answer so would appreciate it if you could share the results of your conversation with Salt Lake. Thanks Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay Davis" <grdavis@centurytel.net> To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances >I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed >her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She >has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she >is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the >ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one >year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to >do her mother's temple work? > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 3997 (20090409) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

    04/09/2009 08:26:48
    1. [LDS-WC] RootsMagic discount for other software users
    2. Sue Maxwell
    3. I just ran across this page on the RootsMagic website. We should be aware of this in case we have patrons who are interested. RootsMagic is temporarily offering a discount price for users of PAF, Legacy, and Ancestral Quest. RootsMagic is the first and only genealogy software that can handle temple submissions within its program for use with nFS. http://www.rootsmagic.com/upgrade/ SueM

    04/09/2009 07:43:57
    1. [LDS-WC] Reserving ordinances
    2. Gay Davis
    3. I have a ward member who wants to do her mother's temple work. She nursed her mother through her illness and her mother passed away last month. She has a distant, estranged cousin who is active on NFS and has said that she is submitting the mother's name for temple work. Is it possible for the ward member to reserve her mother's name for temple work prior to the one year wait time? If not, are there other ways she can preserve her right to do her mother's temple work?

    04/09/2009 07:19:53
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family member
    2. Whitcomb
    3. I believe in following rules, like waiting a year. Others don't. Just like when attending General Conference the ticket says not to bring in any cameras, etc. In the Deseret News was a letter from a visitor from Scotland who was shocked to see people who brought in cameras, recording devices, etc. - MORAL: reserve the name! I learned this lesson the hard way after a first cousin once removed to my grandmother did all the work for my great aunts and uncles. If you don't enter them into nFS, others can, if you reserve the names.. others can't. Alan W. P.S. Be careful of spellcheckers. Monday's BYU newspaper had thousands of copies pulled out of their stands and reprinted. over due to an article about the newest member of the quorum of the twelve apostates. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com>wrote: > What is even better? > > the new system allow you to reserve the name to prevent distant > relatives from doing it. > > David Samuelsen > > Claire smith wrote: > > oooo right...thank you :o) > > > > ~ Claire > > > > Ashton England Stake > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:29:35 -0600 > >> From: dsam52@sampubco.com > >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family > member > >> > >> nope, > >> > >> I found out if it is your own direct line, permission is not needed > >> unless spouse is living, that is how I did work for both of my > >> grandmothers a year after their deaths. Both grandfathers died years > >> earlier. > >> > >> Different thing if it is siblings of grandparents. > >> > >> David Samuelsen > >> > >> Helle Thor Hirschmann wrote: > >>> If there are a non-member generation (parent) of the member - then the > >>> member need to ask permission before doing the work. > >>> > >>> Helle > >>> Denmark > >>> > >>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > >>> Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > >>> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Claire > smith > >>> Sendt: 8. april 2009 13:46 > >>> Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > >>> Emne: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family member > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The grandmother of a member of my Ward has just died and I'm not sure > of the > >>> correct way to proceed with her work. I believe you have to wait a year > >>> before getting the work done but is there anything else I need to know? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you > >>> > >>> ~ Claire > >>> > >>> Ashton England Stake > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/08/2009 06:53:24
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family member
    2. Helle Thor Hirschmann
    3. If there are a non-member generation (parent) of the member - then the member need to ask permission before doing the work. Helle Denmark -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Claire smith Sendt: 8. april 2009 13:46 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family member Hi The grandmother of a member of my Ward has just died and I'm not sure of the correct way to proceed with her work. I believe you have to wait a year before getting the work done but is there anything else I need to know? Thank you ~ Claire Ashton England Stake _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) Databaseversion: 6.12140 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) Databaseversion: 6.12140 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

    04/08/2009 05:15:54
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family member
    2. Claire smith
    3. oooo right...thank you :o) ~ Claire Ashton England Stake > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:29:35 -0600 > From: dsam52@sampubco.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family member > > nope, > > I found out if it is your own direct line, permission is not needed > unless spouse is living, that is how I did work for both of my > grandmothers a year after their deaths. Both grandfathers died years > earlier. > > Different thing if it is siblings of grandparents. > > David Samuelsen > > Helle Thor Hirschmann wrote: > > If there are a non-member generation (parent) of the member - then the > > member need to ask permission before doing the work. > > > > Helle > > Denmark > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Claire smith > > Sendt: 8. april 2009 13:46 > > Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Emne: [LDS-WC] Processing the work for recently deceased family member > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > The grandmother of a member of my Ward has just died and I'm not sure of the > > correct way to proceed with her work. I believe you have to wait a year > > before getting the work done but is there anything else I need to know? > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > ~ Claire > > > > Ashton England Stake > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) > > Databaseversion: 6.12140 > > http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > > > > > > > > > > > E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.440) > > Databaseversion: 6.12140 > > http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/

    04/08/2009 04:44:28