I feel a need to respond to this response and another. First, my understanding of what was said - which others can listen to as well.. was that consultants will be consulted or asked for advice when people get stuck or have difficulty. There is a need for more specialized help - for example when someone at the FHL needs guidance with their ancestors in Spain.. I am asked to help.. though I am only a patron there As to the future of FHCs, it will be a place where people an meet with others for guidance and help.. This in addition to the Familysearch Wiki, which will have lessons in time. I got some "inside information" about a month ago on the digitalization process. While the programming for the viewer still is on the back burner.. it will have geographical blocks. This part really is not hard. The location technology works now! To find out where YOU are visit http://whatismyipaddress.com/ Alan W. On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Alber Rico <andybevrico@msn.com> wrote: > Alan, would you please tell us what was said about the future for FHC's. > Beverly R. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Whitcomb" <hwhitcomb@gmail.com> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:16 PM > Subject: [LDS-WC] a BYU program on Family History "Questions and Ancestors" > > > > I saw something on BYU TV that caught my eye. It's and interesting > series > > with various "experts" in the field which I have found interesting. > > > > Website: http://www.byub.org/questionsandancestors/ > > > > > > Program Archives: http://www.byub.org/questionsandancestors/episodes.asp > > > > It was interesting today for me to listen to Rich Running, Product > Manager > > for FamilySearch Indexing. Some things were neat to know - like they > expect > > all films in the vault to be digitized in 6-7 years. I knew they are not > > creating much new microfilm anymore.. straight to digital now, but I > didn't > > know that the Church only had 20 cameras. > > > > While I was fascinated at the prospect of other organizations helping us > > transcribe records.. my ears picked up when he talked about the future > for > > FHCs. > > > > Alan W. > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for Susan Boyle!!! I shared with some friends; I hope you don't mind. Have a wonderful evening Barbi in Manahawkin NJ USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Kemp To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:03 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] This is an amazing performance I know this is out of scope - but this performance is extraordinary. Susan Boyle has had a dream since she was 12 - she is now 47. It was fulfilled - triumphantly Saturday night. Don't miss this performance. Her singing is memorable. I can see this example being used in many a talk. Dreams unrealized .... and fulfilled. Drop what you are doing and watch this. See: http://tinyurl.com/d6t5t3 See YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alan, would you please tell us what was said about the future for FHC's. Beverly R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Whitcomb" <hwhitcomb@gmail.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] a BYU program on Family History "Questions and Ancestors" > I saw something on BYU TV that caught my eye. It's and interesting series > with various "experts" in the field which I have found interesting. > > Website: http://www.byub.org/questionsandancestors/ > > > Program Archives: http://www.byub.org/questionsandancestors/episodes.asp > > It was interesting today for me to listen to Rich Running, Product Manager > for FamilySearch Indexing. Some things were neat to know - like they expect > all films in the vault to be digitized in 6-7 years. I knew they are not > creating much new microfilm anymore.. straight to digital now, but I didn't > know that the Church only had 20 cameras. > > While I was fascinated at the prospect of other organizations helping us > transcribe records.. my ears picked up when he talked about the future for > FHCs. > > Alan W. > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Those in Utah and Idaho who have not received notification that their stakes are in the pre-rollout time frame (most of them), still cannot register for new FamilySearch until their stake priesthood leaders receive notification packets. Mainly for after your stake priesthood leaders receive notification that you are in the pre-rollout time frame: [1]New website to help stakes in Utah and Idaho prepare for the rollout of new FamilySearch. You can get acquainted with this new website now and prepare as much as possible, and view the two new video classes located there. Then you can finish preparing once your stake receives notification and your registered consultants and registered priesthood leaders receive early access to new FamilySearch. They will then have a new lesson added, teaching them new FamilySearch, and they will then be able to do the practice exercises (to learn new FamilySearch) located on the new website. Once they receive early access to new FamilySearch, their ILS lessons will be transferred from the netdimensions website to their new FamilySearch account and will be accessed by going into new FamilySearch > Help Center > Training and Resources tab > e-learning courses. ______________________________________________________________________ Jeanne Davis wrote: I learned today that those of us in Utah and Idaho who have not had access to N ew Familysearch can now go online for the training. There are a few temple dis tricts which have been notified that they are going to come online with the new program (they are listed there when you go in to get the training.) But all o f us can now access the video and the training. They are saying that this will actually roll out by stakes here, and stakes will have access only if they hav e family history consultants within that stake who have registered and complete d the training. Just go to consultant.familysearch.org If you not already registered there, do so. If you are, then look at the right-hand side of the screen and read the informa tion for the Utah and Idaho rollout and click on the button to access further i nformation and training. I am so delighted! Hope you are too. It's been a long wait. Jeanne Davis Paradise, Utah Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [2]LDS-WARD-CONSUL TANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3]LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-re quest@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subjec t and the body of the message _______________________________________________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - [4]www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: 04/15/09 06:3 4:00 References 1. https://consultant.familysearch.org/consultant/home.do 2. mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM 3. mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com 4. http://www.avg.com/

Whitcomb wrote: > It was interesting today for me to listen to Rich Running, Product Manager > for FamilySearch Indexing. Some things were neat to know - like they expect > all films in the vault to be digitized in 6-7 years. I knew they are not > creating much new microfilm anymore.. straight to digital now, but I didn't > know that the Church only had 20 cameras. This does not surprise me at all. Just 25 years ago, had more than 100 in the field, then the technology improved so much, that the companies making the parts for cameras are going out of business or discontinued manufacturing these parts. It was found that the digital route result in better images. No Fish-eye images. Not every film can be converted, some will have to go back to the field to do the necessary digitalizing. And 6-7 years is fine as long as there's agreements with those county governments, city governments, organizations, etc, covering copyright issues as well. David Samuelsen

I saw something on BYU TV that caught my eye. It's and interesting series with various "experts" in the field which I have found interesting. Website: http://www.byub.org/questionsandancestors/ Program Archives: http://www.byub.org/questionsandancestors/episodes.asp It was interesting today for me to listen to Rich Running, Product Manager for FamilySearch Indexing. Some things were neat to know - like they expect all films in the vault to be digitized in 6-7 years. I knew they are not creating much new microfilm anymore.. straight to digital now, but I didn't know that the Church only had 20 cameras. While I was fascinated at the prospect of other organizations helping us transcribe records.. my ears picked up when he talked about the future for FHCs. Alan W.

go to nFS > HELP CENTER > Training and Resources > E-Learning Courses > Scroll down to Family History Consultant Courses > Click on --> Family Tree Training This training instructs you how to use Family Tree to find and share information about your ancestors. (more about the course) On 4/15/09, Barb Allen <gone2center@yahoo.com> wrote: > I think there is a new training module in the training and resources tab on > nFS, either there or in Net Dimensions. > > --- On Sat, 4/11/09, Gay Davis <grdavis@centurytel.net> wrote: > > From: Gay Davis <grdavis@centurytel.net> > Subject: [LDS-WC] FAMILY TREE > To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 6:41 PM > > Is there someplace on the internet where you can find lessons or information > on > familysearch family tree? There doesn't seem to be any information on > family tree itself. At least I don't see any. Thx > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- jackie tofreckles@Gmail.com

The best way to get male names done is to contact a singles ward.... there are usually very many returned missionaries ( some female too) and they can get those names done in a flash. Marianne On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Marian Mallder <mcm410@msn.com> wrote: > > I think we need to take into consideration that some are part member > families or widows/widowers, and when we clear names we get those whom we > know aren't gonig to be done in a timely matter. I have handfulls of male > names who are waiting for some kind soul in my ward to help, but no one is > willing. > I have always supported the youth temple trips by supplying names > therefore I have lots waiting for the rest of the ordinances to be > completed. I'll keep doing it a family at a time, or picking up those > dangling people. > I am 3 1/2 hrs from my temple, and also a missionary, so my personal time > to do ordinances is at a standstill at this time. > It's great when you have a large family who are members, but a lot of us > don't have that blessing and we struggle to get the work done, having it > started is worth a lot for us. > > Marian in iowa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill N. Crandell" <jncrandell@broadweave.net> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] stealing names thought > > > > Michele wrote: > > I do think there should be a time limit on these names.....I have quite a > > few in my own families and I'm not unhappy someone else has submitted > > them, > > but I think it's unfair to submit names and let them sit, half completed > > for years. Not fair to the deceased!! > > Jill Crandell > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marianne "Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, You have to live for Today"

I know this is out of scope - but this performance is extraordinary. Susan Boyle has had a dream since she was 12 - she is now 47. It was fulfilled - triumphantly Saturday night. Don't miss this performance. Her singing is memorable. I can see this example being used in many a talk. Dreams unrealized .... and fulfilled. Drop what you are doing and watch this. See:  http://tinyurl.com/d6t5t3 See YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY

Remember that the mysterious abbreviations (Latin) are in very old records. That era kept the records of nobility to track hereditary property and titular rights. Dying without male progeny would be documented if someone showed up claiming to be from a son later on. I'm sure the Latin explanation is right on. As for where people might record that in the records, like the others who have commented, I've seen the death field used for just about everything under the sun. I'd move it to the notes. Jerry

Paula wrote: But, do we know what will happen with the data in nfs if it's replaced with familytree or whatever the plan is? Will all the corrections we've made be passed along? FamilyTree is a different format that accesses the same databases. All changes in NFS show in FamilyTree. Jill Crandell

I learned today that those of us in Utah and Idaho who have not had access to New Familysearch can now go online for the training. There are a few temple districts which have been notified that they are going to come online with the new program (they are listed there when you go in to get the training.) But all of us can now access the video and the training. They are saying that this will actually roll out by stakes here, and stakes will have access only if they have family history consultants within that stake who have registered and completed the training. Just go to consultant.familysearch.org If you not already registered there, do so. If you are, then look at the right-hand side of the screen and read the information for the Utah and Idaho rollout and click on the button to access further information and training. I am so delighted! Hope you are too. It's been a long wait. Jeanne Davis Paradise, Utah

Doris wrote: For several of the children, we do not have a correct death date, so you can not change it in the summary. This just makes the record so wrong--do you think I should dispute it, send it on to Feedback, or just not worry about it? As you mentioned, the best option is to fill in the correct death date and select it on the summary page. Rather than dispute it, I would do the research to determine what the correct dates are and fill them in. Far better than disputing something because it "looks" wrong would be to enter accurate data. This is the "research" step that I'm always saying is missing in the instructions for NFS. :-) I know it isn't always possible, but when it is, that's what I would recommend. Jill Crandell

Hi. I am trying to clean up some NFS records, and have found something that is just so wrong. A whole family, the children born 1776-1790 had their temple baptisms done in the Salt lake Temple in 1928. All of the children show death dates in NFS that are the date the temple baptism was done, making them about 180 years old when they died. For several of the children, we do not have a correct death date, so you can not change it in the summary. This just makes the record so wrong--do you think I should dispute it, send it on to Feedback, or just not worry about it? Doris Bateman

OK< great. I've been too busy lately to pay much attention to FamilyTree at all, just heard a bit about it. Paula On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jill N. Crandell wrote: > Paula wrote: > But, do we know what will happen with the data in nfs if it's > replaced with > familytree or whatever the plan is? Will all the corrections we've > made be > passed along? > > FamilyTree is a different format that accesses the same databases. All > changes in NFS show in FamilyTree. > > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I think we should always keep in mind that someday nfs or its successor will be open to the general public. We should really try to make it as accurate and reliable a source as possible. So I'd dispute it, and send it on to Feedback. But, do we know what will happen with the data in nfs if it's replaced with familytree or whatever the plan is? Will all the corrections we've made be passed along? Paula On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:55 PM, DORIS BATEMAN wrote: > Hi. I am trying to clean up some NFS records, and have found > something that is just so wrong. A whole family, the children born > 1776-1790 had their temple baptisms done in the Salt lake Temple in > 1928. All of the children show death dates in NFS that are the date > the temple baptism was done, making them about 180 years old when > they died. For several of the children, we do not have a correct > death date, so you can not change it in the summary. This just > makes the record so wrong--do you think I should dispute it, send it > on to Feedback, or just not worry about it? > > Doris Bateman > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

it will be, it's on my to do list unless somebody else got to it. David Samuelsen Shanna Jones wrote: > Do you think anyone has put all of this good information on the wiki? > https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Main_Page > > Shanna Jones > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David > Samuelsen > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:49 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ReDo: Help with abbreviations > > yes, *s.p.m.* - [Latin] *sine prole mascula*; without male offspring > > and there's more than one abbreviation used in this manner. > > dspm = decessit sine prole mascula - no male issue > > dspms = decessit sine prole mascula superstite - no living male issue > > dsps = decessit sine prole superstite - no living issue male and female > > dspl = decessit sine prole legitima - no living legitimate children, but > has illegimate children > > dsp = decessit sine prole - no offspring > > dspv - decessit sine prole virili - no male children, has living > daughters who inherit. > > David Samuelsen > > Joan Raney wrote: >> So that's what "spm" also means? Dying without male heirs? Joan in NC > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Do you think anyone has put all of this good information on the wiki? https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Main_Page Shanna Jones -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:49 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] ReDo: Help with abbreviations yes, *s.p.m.* - [Latin] *sine prole mascula*; without male offspring and there's more than one abbreviation used in this manner. dspm = decessit sine prole mascula - no male issue dspms = decessit sine prole mascula superstite - no living male issue dsps = decessit sine prole superstite - no living issue male and female dspl = decessit sine prole legitima - no living legitimate children, but has illegimate children dsp = decessit sine prole - no offspring dspv - decessit sine prole virili - no male children, has living daughters who inherit. David Samuelsen Joan Raney wrote: > So that's what "spm" also means? Dying without male heirs? Joan in NC Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

yes, *s.p.m.* - [Latin] *sine prole mascula*; without male offspring and there's more than one abbreviation used in this manner. dspm = decessit sine prole mascula - no male issue dspms = decessit sine prole mascula superstite - no living male issue dsps = decessit sine prole superstite - no living issue male and female dspl = decessit sine prole legitima - no living legitimate children, but has illegimate children dsp = decessit sine prole - no offspring dspv - decessit sine prole virili - no male children, has living daughters who inherit. David Samuelsen Joan Raney wrote: > So that's what "spm" also means? Dying without male heirs? Joan in NC

I think there is a new training module in the training and resources tab on nFS, either there or in Net Dimensions. --- On Sat, 4/11/09, Gay Davis <grdavis@centurytel.net> wrote: From: Gay Davis <grdavis@centurytel.net> Subject: [LDS-WC] FAMILY TREE To: "LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT" <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 6:41 PM Is there someplace on the internet where you can find lessons or information on familysearch family tree? There doesn't seem to be any information on family tree itself. At least I don't see any. Thx Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message