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    1. Re: [LDS-WC] (no subject)
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. In my case, it is triple whammy. This extends to my step fathers and step-mothers because I have sisters by my mother and sisters and brother by my father so that multipled my work to the tune of 6 lines. David Samuelsen Miles Meyer wrote: > this is what is listed in the Help Center at nFS. Looks to me like > collateral lines are ok to work on. > > > Help Topic Help Center Feedback Close What are Church policies (067faq0443) > > Primary Responsibility > > Church members are responsible to provide temple ordinances for the > following individuals who have been deceased at least one year, > without regard to worthiness, mental ability, or cause of death: > > Immediate family members. > Direct-line ancestors (parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, > etc., and their families). > > Other Possibilities > > Church members may also provide temple ordinances for the following > individuals who have been deceased at least one year. > > Biological, adoptive, and foster family lines connected to their family. > Collateral family lines (uncles, aunts, cousins, and their families). > Descendants. > Descendants of direct-line ancestors and their families. > Possible ancestors. These are individuals who have a probable family > relationship that cannot be verified because the records are > inadequate. These may include individuals who had the same last name > and resided in the same small geographic areas as known ancestors. > Close friends. This is an exception to the rule that members should > submit only the names of individuals of their own family and > ancestors. Before performing ordinances for a friend, a member should > obtain permission from the individual's closest living relative. > > Miles Meyer > Jacksonville, FL > > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Janet Nielsen <mendgen@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I just finished reading the book God's Greatest Gift by Theodore M. Burton, published in 1977. He was pretty adamant that our collateral lines should not be worked on. Does anyone know the Church's policy on this. I think I read somewhere it was OK to do our collateral lines. >> Thanks, Janet > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    04/29/2009 07:13:37
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] (no subject)
    2. Janet Ballingham
    3. Janet, Here is a piece for Appendix D part of the new Family Search user guide issued Feb 2009 This should answer your question Janet Ballingham For Whom Should I Do Temple Ordinances? Church members are responsible to provide temple ordinances for immediate family members and direct-line ancestors (parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc., and their families). Ordinances can be provided without regard to worthiness, mental ability, or cause of death. Can I Do Ordinances for People Who Are Not in My Immediate Family or Direct Family Line? Church members may provide temple ordinances for the following individuals who have been deceased at least one year. • Biological, adoptive, and foster family lines connected to their family. • Collateral family lines (uncles, aunts, cousins, and their families). • Descendants. New FamilySearch: User’s Guide © 2007, 2009 IRI 161 • Descendants of direct-line ancestors and their families. • Possible ancestors. These are individuals who have a probable family relationship that cannot be verified because the records are inadequate. These may include individuals who had the same last name and resided in the same small geographic areas as known ancestors. • Close friends. This is an exception to the rule that members should submit only the names of individuals of their own family and ancestors. Before performing ordinances for a friend, a member should obtain permission from the individual’s closest living relative. What Ordinances Should I Not Do? Church members should not submit individuals that they are not related to (with the exception of close friends). This includes: • Famous people. • Those gathered from unapproved extraction projects. • Jewish Holocaust victims. Members cannot do the ordinances for these people except under the following conditions: - They are an immediate family member of the deceased (defined as parents, spouse, or children), or - They have permission of all living immediate family members, or - They have the permission of the closest living relative if no immediate family members are living. -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:58 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] (no subject) I just finished reading the book God's Greatest Gift by Theodore M. Burton, published in 1977.  He was pretty adamant that our collateral lines should not be worked on.  Does anyone know the Church's policy on this.  I think I read somewhere it was OK to do our collateral lines. Thanks, Janet Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/29/2009 06:49:16
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Question about ancestry.com
    2. Fred V Provoncha
    3. Hi Doris, no universal answer to your question. Some folks allow a full download, some a partial, some no download at all. If you don't see a download button, that submitter may not allow a download... Regards, Fred www.ticonderogaheritagemuseum.org -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DORIS BATEMAN Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:20 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] Question about ancestry.com Hi. I have been working so much on NFS I haven't visited Ancestry.com for quite a while. Yesterday I was helping a ward member in her home who has bought a subscription to ancestry. She has found an extensive well documented family tree in the family tree section but we could not figure out how to download it. Their help section was of no use, as it gave directions using a "my trees" part of the website that no longer seems to exist. Apparently they have not kept their help section up with their website changes. Can anyone help me with how to download this? Doris Bateman

    04/29/2009 06:38:31
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Question about ancestry.com
    2. You can't. Sometimes the same trees are on RootswebWorld Connect. _http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi) Otherwise, you have to collaborate with the person who submitted it...or print it out page by page which still is time consuming. Michele In a message dated 4/29/2009 6:21:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Jenealogist66@msn.com writes: Hi. I have been working so much on NFS I haven't visited Ancestry.com for quite a while. Yesterday I was helping a ward member in her home who has bought a subscription to ancestry. She has found an extensive well documented family tree in the family tree section but we could not figure out how to download it. Their help section was of no use, as it gave directions using a "my trees" part of the website that no longer seems to exist. Apparently they have not kept their help section up with their website changes. Can anyone help me with how to download this? Doris Bateman Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv)

    04/29/2009 06:25:38
    1. [LDS-WC] (no subject)
    2. Janet Nielsen
    3. I just finished reading the book God's Greatest Gift by Theodore M. Burton, published in 1977.  He was pretty adamant that our collateral lines should not be worked on.  Does anyone know the Church's policy on this.  I think I read somewhere it was OK to do our collateral lines. Thanks, Janet

    04/29/2009 04:57:33
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent?
    2. Whitcomb
    3. Being sealed to a Church leader still goes on. I have noticed that within the last several years someone in Mexico has continued the practice. Oh - that we could be re-baptized like they did in the early days! Alan W. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Claire 1 <brer25@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Ah thank you Paula and Jorge - I knew about being sealed to the Prophet but > I didn't realise it was sealing to any Church leader. > > > > Many thanks again > > ~ Claire > > Ashton England Stake > > > > > > From: sootica@mac.com > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:01:22 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent? > > > > Yes, you're very correct. My ggggrandfather, William F. Rigby, was > > sealed to Brigham Young and his wife Zina, as his parents because his > > biological parents were never married. Later, the family has had him > > sealed to his biological parents. And often girls who had died without > > marrying were sealed to living men. A lot of my male ancestors are > > sealed to women they never met, sisters of their living wife for > > example, who died years before. This practice makes my new family > > search tree into a real nightmare. Paula > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Jorge Todeschini wrote: > > > > > If I am not mistaken, for a certain period members were sealed to > > > Church > > > leaders. Only later was it revealed that we should be sealed to our > > > own > > > parents and so on, and that we should research our own genealogies and > > > extend the blessings of temple work to our own ancestors -- instead > > > of just > > > being sealed to some righteous leaders and turning our backs to our > > > ancestors. > > > > > > Of course there is more to it than I can express in three lines, but > > > that's > > > the main idea to answer your question, I believe. > _________________________________________________________________ > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/29/2009 03:44:35
    1. [LDS-WC] Question about ancestry.com
    2. DORIS BATEMAN
    3. Hi. I have been working so much on NFS I haven't visited Ancestry.com for quite a while. Yesterday I was helping a ward member in her home who has bought a subscription to ancestry. She has found an extensive well documented family tree in the family tree section but we could not figure out how to download it. Their help section was of no use, as it gave directions using a "my trees" part of the website that no longer seems to exist. Apparently they have not kept their help section up with their website changes. Can anyone help me with how to download this? Doris Bateman

    04/29/2009 01:20:28
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent?
    2. Claire 1
    3. Ah thank you Paula and Jorge - I knew about being sealed to the Prophet but I didn't realise it was sealing to any Church leader. Many thanks again ~ Claire Ashton England Stake > From: sootica@mac.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:01:22 -0700 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent? > > Yes, you're very correct. My ggggrandfather, William F. Rigby, was > sealed to Brigham Young and his wife Zina, as his parents because his > biological parents were never married. Later, the family has had him > sealed to his biological parents. And often girls who had died without > marrying were sealed to living men. A lot of my male ancestors are > sealed to women they never met, sisters of their living wife for > example, who died years before. This practice makes my new family > search tree into a real nightmare. Paula > On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Jorge Todeschini wrote: > > > If I am not mistaken, for a certain period members were sealed to > > Church > > leaders. Only later was it revealed that we should be sealed to our > > own > > parents and so on, and that we should research our own genealogies and > > extend the blessings of temple work to our own ancestors -- instead > > of just > > being sealed to some righteous leaders and turning our backs to our > > ancestors. > > > > Of course there is more to it than I can express in three lines, but > > that's > > the main idea to answer your question, I believe. _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/

    04/28/2009 02:23:31
    1. [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent?
    2. Claire 1
    3. I've been looking at a record for James HULME Christened 7 Feb 1784 in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England. Looking at his ordinances I've found this - Sealed to parents: 30 Jan 1889 SGEORG - Pres Willard Richards I'm a bit puzzled - can anyone explain why this might be please? Many thanks ~ Claire Ashton England Stake _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/

    04/28/2009 12:18:44
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] new Family Search guides
    2. Sandra Anderson
    3. Thank you, Miles, for such good lessons for novices to NFS and FamilyTree. Appreciate it. Sandy sandy_anderson41@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/27/2009 4:04:31 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] new Family Search guides > > I produced a new set of manuals last month. You can find them at > http://milesmeyer.googlepages.com/lessonmanuals. There are three new > manuals there to look at. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. > > Miles Meyer > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:33 PM, elvin mullen <mullenmission@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I am looking for Sunday School Lessons for New FamilySearch - I checked Miles Meyer and he still has Temple Ready info at the end of his lessons.� Perhaps I am missing a new site he has.� Thanks > > > > Loretta > > Elk Grove Stake, CA > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/28/2009 11:29:50
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent?
    2. Jorge Todeschini
    3. If I am not mistaken, for a certain period members were sealed to Church leaders. Only later was it revealed that we should be sealed to our own parents and so on, and that we should research our own genealogies and extend the blessings of temple work to our own ancestors -- instead of just being sealed to some righteous leaders and turning our backs to our ancestors. Of course there is more to it than I can express in three lines, but that's the main idea to answer your question, I believe. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Claire 1" <brer25@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:18 PM To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent? > > I've been looking at a record for James HULME Christened 7 Feb 1784 in > Dukinfield, Cheshire, England. Looking at his ordinances I've found > this - > > > > Sealed to parents: 30 Jan 1889 SGEORG - Pres Willard Richards > > > > I'm a bit puzzled - can anyone explain why this might be please? > > > Many thanks > > > ~ Claire > > Ashton England Stake > > _________________________________________________________________ > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/28/2009 09:28:28
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent?
    2. Paula Goodfellow
    3. Yes, you're very correct. My ggggrandfather, William F. Rigby, was sealed to Brigham Young and his wife Zina, as his parents because his biological parents were never married. Later, the family has had him sealed to his biological parents. And often girls who had died without marrying were sealed to living men. A lot of my male ancestors are sealed to women they never met, sisters of their living wife for example, who died years before. This practice makes my new family search tree into a real nightmare. Paula On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Jorge Todeschini wrote: > If I am not mistaken, for a certain period members were sealed to > Church > leaders. Only later was it revealed that we should be sealed to our > own > parents and so on, and that we should research our own genealogies and > extend the blessings of temple work to our own ancestors -- instead > of just > being sealed to some righteous leaders and turning our backs to our > ancestors. > > Of course there is more to it than I can express in three lines, but > that's > the main idea to answer your question, I believe. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Claire 1" <brer25@hotmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:18 PM > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LDS-WC] Confuddled - Willard Richards as a parent? > >> >> I've been looking at a record for James HULME Christened 7 Feb 1784 >> in >> Dukinfield, Cheshire, England. Looking at his ordinances I've found >> this - >> >> >> >> Sealed to parents: 30 Jan 1889 SGEORG - Pres Willard Richards >> >> >> >> I'm a bit puzzled - can anyone explain why this might be please? >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> ~ Claire >> >> Ashton England Stake >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    04/28/2009 06:01:22
    1. [LDS-WC] For Carrie Taylor
    2. B. Jackson
    3. I have done some work in homes. An advantage of this is that working with one sister who knows very little about FH but has a strong Temple testimony, she can go and search for information while we have the program runnning. As we find information online, she can add it immediately into he own personal records. Barbi in Manahawkin NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie Taylor To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] Classes in home alternative You might also want to check out your local library. Mine has wireless internet and I can sign up to use their classrooms for free. Carrie Taylor in VA Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:45:48 -0600 From: Brother Bowen <brotherbowen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Sunday School lesson questions To: turner@thewebsurfer.co.za, lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <cd8f1d640904270845k7033a2a5vb8bdcdf99f055557@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We are offering classes on Tuesday night in our home because we have wireless internet and others can bring their laptop computers and hook up to it. The classes are very popular. We have a revolving schedule of classes with research, nFS, and PAF as class options. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/28/2009 02:41:45
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Classes in home alternative
    2. Some libraries make the stipulation that all classes must be open to anyone. This means that teaching nfs may not be appropriate for that venue at this time, as nonmembers (unless they work at the FHC) can't access the data base. Karen In a message dated 4/28/2009 6:49:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, carrotarms@verizon.net writes: You might also want to check out your local library. Mine has wireless internet and I can sign up to use their classrooms for free. Carrie Taylor in VA Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:45:48 -0600 From: Brother Bowen <brotherbowen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Sunday School lesson questions To: turner@thewebsurfer.co.za, lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <cd8f1d640904270845k7033a2a5vb8bdcdf99f055557@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We are offering classes on Tuesday night in our home because we have wireless internet and others can bring their laptop computers and hook up to it. The classes are very popular. We have a revolving schedule of classes with research, nFS, and PAF as class options. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr ilExcScore428NO62)

    04/28/2009 02:32:44
    1. [LDS-WC] Classes in home alternative
    2. Carrie Taylor
    3. You might also want to check out your local library. Mine has wireless internet and I can sign up to use their classrooms for free. Carrie Taylor in VA Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:45:48 -0600 From: Brother Bowen <brotherbowen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Sunday School lesson questions To: turner@thewebsurfer.co.za, lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <cd8f1d640904270845k7033a2a5vb8bdcdf99f055557@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We are offering classes on Tuesday night in our home because we have wireless internet and others can bring their laptop computers and hook up to it. The classes are very popular. We have a revolving schedule of classes with research, nFS, and PAF as class options.

    04/28/2009 01:48:17
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 174
    2. elvin mullen
    3. THANK YOU MILES for the lesson plans for NFS and FAMILY TREE.    Loretta at Elk Grove Family History Center.  I put page numbers at the bottom of the 2nd and 3rd parts just in case I drop the binder and it all falls out.  These will be so helpful to our patrons.  Thanks again   --- On Tue, 4/28/09, lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 174 To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 3:00 AM Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM  If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address.  Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics:    1. Sunday School lesson questions (Terry Turner)    2. Re: Sunday School lesson questions (Brother Bowen)    3. Stats question (Terry Turner)    4. Re: Stats question [Ans.?] (David)    5. Re: Stats question [Ans.?] (Jorge Todeschini)    6. Re: new Family Search guides (Miles Meyer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:31:44 +0200 From: "Terry Turner" <turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> Subject: [LDS-WC] Sunday School lesson questions To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <OHEDKPAHIGACHKDHBJNIIECBGPAA.turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" With the implementation of nFS, I find that getting members (eg other SS & primary teachers) temporarily released from their callings to learn a) how to do research b) how to use research software eg PAF c) how to use nFS for temple submission is getting quite difficult. How are you guys splitting/setting up your SS classes? We are a small ward and trying to get just the married couples to attend, never mind their more techie minded teenagers, is nigh impossible. Secondly, once someone has been through some education, how do you keep them hooked? Terry in South Africa ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:45:48 -0600 From: Brother Bowen <brotherbowen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Sunday School lesson questions To: turner@thewebsurfer.co.za, lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID:     <cd8f1d640904270845k7033a2a5vb8bdcdf99f055557@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We are offering classes on Tuesday night in our home because we have wireless internet and others can bring their laptop computers and hook up to it.  The classes are very popular. We have a revolving schedule of classes with research, nFS, and PAF as class options. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Terry Turner <turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> wrote: > With the implementation of nFS, I find that getting members (eg other SS & > primary teachers) temporarily released from their callings to learn > > a) how to do research > b) how to use research software eg PAF > c) how to use nFS for temple submission > > is getting quite difficult. How are you guys splitting/setting up your SS > classes? We are a small ward and trying to get just the married couples to > attend, never mind their more techie minded teenagers, is nigh impossible.. > > Secondly, once someone has been through some education, how do you keep them > hooked? > > Terry in South Africa > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:52:12 +0200 From: "Terry Turner" <turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> Subject: [LDS-WC] Stats question To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <OHEDKPAHIGACHKDHBJNIGECFGPAA.turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Hi, what nFS stats are available to me as an assistant FHC director? Terry in South Africa ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:38:12 -0400 From: David <pskd1@cox.net> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Stats question [Ans.?] To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20090427143812.I083R.28562.imail@fed1rmwml33> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Terry,      I believe the only stats you get are what you are able to generate from within your own center.      With the change in focus for family history to the ward High Priest group leaders and the fact that the members do not have to clear names through temple ready at a family history center that part of our reporting responsibility is no more. It took our stake president about 45 seconds into a conversation we were having just before we went live to realize that would no longer be part of our report to the stake.      We do continue to track attendance at the center and are just now starting to see the return of our members to the center after nearly a year and a half since going on nFS. The easy pickings in their family tree has fallen and now they're coming back for training in research. Also, those that are new arrivals to the area come to learn how to use the program.      David, San Diego District ---- Terry Turner <turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> wrote: Hi, what nFS stats are available to me as an assistant FHC director? Terry in South Africa ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:12:05 -0300 From: "Jorge Todeschini" <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Stats question [Ans.?] To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY141-DS3B16268BFDA6F16207C39B6710@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Well, what if you just want to know -- not for reporting purposes but for other reasons, say, to measure how much stake members are using nFS from home and clearing names from home. Is there anything available? -------------------------------------------------- From: "David" <pskd1@cox.net> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38 PM To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Stats question [Ans.?] > Terry, >     I believe the only stats you get are what you are able to generate > from within your own center. >     With the change in focus for family history to the ward High Priest > group leaders and the fact that the members do not have to clear names > through temple ready at a family history center that part of our reporting > responsibility is no more. It took our stake president about 45 seconds > into a conversation we were having just before we went live to realize > that would no longer be part of our report to the stake. >     We do continue to track attendance at the center and are just now > starting to see the return of our members to the center after nearly a > year and a half since going on nFS. The easy pickings in their family tree > has fallen and now they're coming back for training in research. Also, > those that are new arrivals to the area come to learn how to use the > program. >     David, San Diego District > > ---- Terry Turner <turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> wrote: > Hi, what nFS stats are available to me as an assistant FHC director? > > Terry in South Africa > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:40:41 -0400 From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] new Family Search guides To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID:     <3ae068010904271340i613cd247r3058214f16bdb1c4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I produced a new set of manuals last month. You can find them at http://milesmeyer.googlepages.com/lessonmanuals. There are three new manuals there to look at. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Miles Meyer On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:33 PM, elvin mullen <mullenmission@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am looking for Sunday School Lessons for New FamilySearch - I checked Miles Meyer and he still has Temple Ready info at the end of his lessons.? Perhaps I am missing a new site he has.? Thanks > > Loretta > Elk Grove Stake, CA ------------------------------ To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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    04/28/2009 12:04:52
    1. [LDS-WC] Stats question
    2. Terry Turner
    3. Hi, what nFS stats are available to me as an assistant FHC director? Terry in South Africa

    04/27/2009 11:52:12
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] new Family Search guides
    2. Miles Meyer
    3. I produced a new set of manuals last month. You can find them at http://milesmeyer.googlepages.com/lessonmanuals. There are three new manuals there to look at. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Miles Meyer On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:33 PM, elvin mullen <mullenmission@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am looking for Sunday School Lessons for New FamilySearch - I checked Miles Meyer and he still has Temple Ready info at the end of his lessons.  Perhaps I am missing a new site he has.  Thanks > > Loretta > Elk Grove Stake, CA

    04/27/2009 10:40:41
    1. [LDS-WC] Sunday School lesson questions
    2. Terry Turner
    3. With the implementation of nFS, I find that getting members (eg other SS & primary teachers) temporarily released from their callings to learn a) how to do research b) how to use research software eg PAF c) how to use nFS for temple submission is getting quite difficult. How are you guys splitting/setting up your SS classes? We are a small ward and trying to get just the married couples to attend, never mind their more techie minded teenagers, is nigh impossible. Secondly, once someone has been through some education, how do you keep them hooked? Terry in South Africa

    04/27/2009 10:31:44
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Stats question [Ans.?]
    2. Jorge Todeschini
    3. Well, what if you just want to know -- not for reporting purposes but for other reasons, say, to measure how much stake members are using nFS from home and clearing names from home. Is there anything available? -------------------------------------------------- From: "David" <pskd1@cox.net> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38 PM To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Stats question [Ans.?] > Terry, > I believe the only stats you get are what you are able to generate > from within your own center. > With the change in focus for family history to the ward High Priest > group leaders and the fact that the members do not have to clear names > through temple ready at a family history center that part of our reporting > responsibility is no more. It took our stake president about 45 seconds > into a conversation we were having just before we went live to realize > that would no longer be part of our report to the stake. > We do continue to track attendance at the center and are just now > starting to see the return of our members to the center after nearly a > year and a half since going on nFS. The easy pickings in their family tree > has fallen and now they're coming back for training in research. Also, > those that are new arrivals to the area come to learn how to use the > program. > David, San Diego District > > ---- Terry Turner <turner@thewebsurfer.co.za> wrote: > Hi, what nFS stats are available to me as an assistant FHC director? > > Terry in South Africa > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/27/2009 10:12:05