Do any of these programs have a "oops" command to go back if one makes a mistake? I know PAF does not. On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Nancy Scott <nascott@cinci.rr.com> wrote: > While it is true that PAF will be supported but not upgraded, I believe > finding the most reasonable priced program and one with the most effective > syncing and upgrades is important.  I changed to RootsMagic about a year ago > at a suggestion from someone in the Group and was delighted with it.  It > recently came out with RM4 and I am thrilled with the syncing capabilities > and the many features that you will not find in PAF or other software. > > If you purchase Family Insight you will be paying a yearly subscription that > is more than the total cost of RM4 right now if you are a PAF user and want > to switch.  RM4 already has the syncing tool in the program for that price. > Right now you can purchase RM4 for $19.95 through the end of May.  RM4 is a > very powerful tool and there are RM4 groups through out the country that you > can join to help you use the tool.  I have joined one here about a year ago > and am the only church member.  Genealogists who are serious about > researching love RM4.  One of the Consultants in my Ward who serves at the > Freedom Center here in Cincinnati and has done tons of FH recently switched > at my suggestion and is very happy with it.  She is also switching over her > sister who has a handicap from a stroke because of the features that allow > you to click on changes you want to make rather than rekeying. > > > > Here is a link if you want to try out either program in a demo form free > also:  http://www.rootsmagic.com/demo.htm > > > Pricing > RootsMagic 4 is available for only $29.95.  Existing RootsMagic and Family > Origins users may upgrade for only $19.95. > Discount Offer > For the first time in company history, users of other genealogy software > programs can receive a competitive upgrade discount.  Through May 31, 2009, > users of Personal Ancestral File (PAF), Family Tree Maker, Legacy Family > Tree, or The Master Genealogist  may purchase RootsMagic 4 for only $19.95, > saving $10 off of the regular price. > > > > The Genealogy Insider posted this about FS awards given recently with RM4 > receiving Best Dashboard and Easiest to Sync: > > The 2009 FamilySearch Software Award winners, which include desktop > programs, online tools and developers' tools, were named last night at the > FamilySearch Developers Conference in Provo, Utah. > > Here's the list (click a program's name to visit its Web site): > > Desktop Productivity > Ancestral Quest (Incline Software): Best Listing Tool > FamilyInsight (Ohana Software): Best Standardizer > RootsMagic 4 (RootsMagic): Best Dashboard > > Desktop Syncing or Tree-Cleaning > Ancestral Quest (Incline Software): Most Comprehensive Syncing > FamilyInsight (Ohana Software): Best Person Separator > RootsMagic 4 (RootsMagic): Easiest to Sync > > Desktop Use of Media > Charting Companion (Progeny Software): Best for Desktop Printing > > Web Productivity > Grow Branch (US Family Tree): Best Web Site Feature for Publishing > (LDS Church members can use this service to submit ancestors for temple > work.) > > Web Use of Media > Generation Maps: Best Web Site Feature for Printing > TreeSeek: Best Web Site Feature for Mapping (requires users to have a "New > Family Search" account) > > Developers Choice Awards > David Pugmire's fsapi.net: Best API Library > Ben Godard's fs-ubiquity: Potential Future Impact on the Genealogy Industry > > See FamilyTreeMagazine.com's genealogy software guide for information > desktop programs for Mac and Windows. > > > > > Below is a clip about the features that are new.  One I don't see listed is > that it is written in Unicode which impressed my System's Manager husband. > > Unicode Support > So what is Unicode?  Basically Unicode support means that RootsMagic isn't > limited to just "western European" languages anymore.  RootsMagic 4 can now > handle Polish, Cyrillic, Kanji, and most any other language you can throw at > it. > > Impressive New Features > > "RootsMagic 4 is the biggest release in our 20-year history of making > genealogy software," said Bruce Buzbee, president.  "We've updated > RootsMagic to work with the latest genealogical technologies available > today, while staying true to our mission to make family history easy, > accessible, and fun." > > RootsMagic 4 boasts an impressive list of new features including integrated > web search, improved SourceWizard for citing sources, sharing events among > multiple persons, creating pre-defined groups of persons, person and place > mapping, recording DNA tests, and improved navigation and data entry. > RootsMagic 4 is also one of the only desktop genealogy programs certified to > work with "New FamilySearch". > > > I am more than happy with RM4 and also was with RM3. > > Nancy Scott > Cincinnati, Ohio > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter F. > Thorne > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:06 PM > To: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? > > Hi! > > > > I have been using Personal Ancestry File published by the Church. With the > announcement that this program will no longer be supported, I have been > considering selecting a commercial program. While NFS is great for recording > information, I felt that research for new information might be enhanced by > subscribing to Ancestry, RootsMagic or similar program. > > > > I realize that I have no knowledge about commercial programs and what they > offer. Consequently, I felt some of you might share some of your insights > and experiences that would help me in this decision. I am also looking for > other programs for personal history, family atlas or any other programs you > might recommend. > > > > Peter F. Thorne > > Toms River, NJ > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nancy Scott said: > when my > subscription was finished for the year I was expected to pay for an > additional year that I did not. Nancy, I apologize that the matter wasn't explained more clearly to you at the time. Paf Insight and FamilyInsight have never been subscription-based products. The only reason that you would have to pay more after a year would have been to get an update. And the update price has always been $15. Aloha, John

Hi! I have been using Personal Ancestry File published by the Church. With the announcement that this program will no longer be supported, I have been considering selecting a commercial program. While NFS is great for recording information, I felt that research for new information might be enhanced by subscribing to Ancestry, RootsMagic or similar program. I realize that I have no knowledge about commercial programs and what they offer. Consequently, I felt some of you might share some of your insights and experiences that would help me in this decision. I am also looking for other programs for personal history, family atlas or any other programs you might recommend. Peter F. Thorne Toms River, NJ

Harry: Personal Ancestral File (PAF) is the trademarked name of the LDS Church's desktop database manager. PAF versions 4 and 5 (with the latest subversion being 5.2) are derived from Ancestral Quest 3.0. These are the Windows versions of PAF. Earlier versions of PAF (3.0 and earlier) were DOS programs, and were not derived from Ancestral Quest. Gaylon Harry Laughman wrote: > Ok now I am confuse, I have been useing Personal Ancestral File 5.0 > Gaylon is this what your refering to or are you refering to something all together different? > > Harry > > WE should all be thankful for what we have. We can only truly know who we are when we learn our past > > --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Gaylon Findlay <gfindlay@ancquest.com> wrote: > > > From: Gaylon Findlay <gfindlay@ancquest.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:21 AM > > > Peter: > > I suspect that you mean, "Personal Ancestral File" rather than "Personal > Ancestry File". Affectionately known as "PAF". > > A little known fact is that the Windows versions of PAF were created > from an older version of Ancestral Quest, by Incline Software. (Incline > Software donated a copy of the AQ code to the LDS Church in 1999, and > thus most members of the Church are using a slightly modified copy of > Ancestral Quest, but with the name changed to "Personal Ancestral > File".) You might want to look at the current version of Ancestral Quest > (you can download a free trial of the program at www.ancquest.com). You > will find that it looks and acts an awful lot like PAF, because it is > mostly the same as PAF, but with many major enhancements -- like the > ability to sync your PAF data with New FamilySearch. > > Gaylon Findlay > Incline Software > > > Peter F. Thorne wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> >> >> I have been using Personal Ancestry File published by the Church. With the >> announcement that this program will no longer be supported, I have been >> considering selecting a commercial program. While NFS is great for recording >> information, I felt that research for new information might be enhanced by >> subscribing to Ancestry, RootsMagic or similar program. >> >> >> >> I realize that I have no knowledge about commercial programs and what they >> offer. Consequently, I felt some of you might share some of your insights >> and experiences that would help me in this decision. I am also looking for >> other programs for personal history, family atlas or any other programs you >> might recommend. >> >> >> >> Peter F. Thorne >> >> Toms River, NJ >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Peter: I suspect that you mean, "Personal Ancestral File" rather than "Personal Ancestry File". Affectionately known as "PAF". A little known fact is that the Windows versions of PAF were created from an older version of Ancestral Quest, by Incline Software. (Incline Software donated a copy of the AQ code to the LDS Church in 1999, and thus most members of the Church are using a slightly modified copy of Ancestral Quest, but with the name changed to "Personal Ancestral File".) You might want to look at the current version of Ancestral Quest (you can download a free trial of the program at www.ancquest.com). You will find that it looks and acts an awful lot like PAF, because it is mostly the same as PAF, but with many major enhancements -- like the ability to sync your PAF data with New FamilySearch. Gaylon Findlay Incline Software Peter F. Thorne wrote: > Hi! > > > > I have been using Personal Ancestry File published by the Church. With the > announcement that this program will no longer be supported, I have been > considering selecting a commercial program. While NFS is great for recording > information, I felt that research for new information might be enhanced by > subscribing to Ancestry, RootsMagic or similar program. > > > > I realize that I have no knowledge about commercial programs and what they > offer. Consequently, I felt some of you might share some of your insights > and experiences that would help me in this decision. I am also looking for > other programs for personal history, family atlas or any other programs you > might recommend. > > > > Peter F. Thorne > > Toms River, NJ > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Personal Ancestral File will be supported, just not upgraded. But FamilyInsight by Ohana Software makes it synchronize nicely with the New FamilySearch program. I use it all the time and really like it. Shanna Jones, UT -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter F. Thorne Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? Hi! I have been using Personal Ancestry File published by the Church. With the announcement that this program will no longer be supported, I have been considering selecting a commercial program. While NFS is great for recording information, I felt that research for new information might be enhanced by subscribing to Ancestry, RootsMagic or similar program. I realize that I have no knowledge about commercial programs and what they offer. Consequently, I felt some of you might share some of your insights and experiences that would help me in this decision. I am also looking for other programs for personal history, family atlas or any other programs you might recommend. Peter F. Thorne Toms River, NJ Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ok now I am confuse, I have been useing Personal Ancestral File 5.0 Gaylon is this what your refering to or are you refering to something all together different?   Harry WE should all be thankful for what we have. We can only truly know who we are when we learn our past --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Gaylon Findlay <gfindlay@ancquest.com> wrote: From: Gaylon Findlay <gfindlay@ancquest.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:21 AM Peter: I suspect that you mean, "Personal Ancestral File" rather than "Personal Ancestry File". Affectionately known as "PAF". A little known fact is that the Windows versions of PAF were created from an older version of Ancestral Quest, by Incline Software. (Incline Software donated a copy of the AQ code to the LDS Church in 1999, and thus most members of the Church are using a slightly modified copy of Ancestral Quest, but with the name changed to "Personal Ancestral File".) You might want to look at the current version of Ancestral Quest (you can download a free trial of the program at www.ancquest.com). You will find that it looks and acts an awful lot like PAF, because it is mostly the same as PAF, but with many major enhancements -- like the ability to sync your PAF data with New FamilySearch. Gaylon Findlay Incline Software Peter F. Thorne wrote: > Hi! > >  > > I have been using Personal Ancestry File published by the Church. With the > announcement that this program will no longer be supported, I have been > considering selecting a commercial program. While NFS is great for recording > information, I felt that research for new information might be enhanced by > subscribing to Ancestry, RootsMagic or similar program. > >  > > I realize that I have no knowledge about commercial programs and what they > offer. Consequently, I felt some of you might share some of your insights > and experiences that would help me in this decision. I am also looking for > other programs for personal history, family atlas or any other programs you > might recommend. > >  > > Peter F. Thorne > > Toms River, NJ > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >    Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy Scott said: > If you purchase Family Insight you will be paying a yearly subscription > ... That is a common misconception. When you buy a copy of FamilyInsight ($25) you get a year of free updates. You can continue to use it after that without paying a cent more. Most programs come out with a new version every year. To get the new version you have to pay an upgrade price. At Ohana Software we choose to make our enhancements available throughout the year so you can use them as soon as possible. Since we are continuously updating FamilyInsight and adding new features, most people choose to buy another year of updates for $15 when their initial year of free updates runs out. In practice it isn't much different than buying the updated version of any program, except that you don't have to wait a full year to get the new features. Aloha, John Vilburn Ohana Software LLC www.ohanasoftware.com

Family Insight doesn't save the oops on your PAF file, until you save it explicitly. And if you save an oops, thats ok, because we archive the original before you save so you can go back. David Beadle Ohana Software, LLC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brother Bowen" <brotherbowen@gmail.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? Do any of these programs have a "oops" command to go back if one makes a mistake? I know PAF does not. On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Nancy Scott <nascott@cinci.rr.com> wrote: > While it is true that PAF will be supported but not upgraded, I believe > finding the most reasonable priced program and one with the most effective > syncing and upgrades is important. I changed to RootsMagic about a year > ago > at a suggestion from someone in the Group and was delighted with it. It > recently came out with RM4 and I am thrilled with the syncing capabilities > and the many features that you will not find in PAF or other software. > > If you purchase Family Insight you will be paying a yearly subscription > that > is more than the total cost of RM4 right now if you are a PAF user and > want > to switch. RM4 already has the syncing tool in the program for that price. > Right now you can purchase RM4 for $19.95 through the end of May. RM4 is a > very powerful tool and there are RM4 groups through out the country that > you > can join to help you use the tool. I have joined one here about a year ago > and am the only church member. Genealogists who are serious about > researching love RM4. One of the Consultants in my Ward who serves at the > Freedom Center here in Cincinnati and has done tons of FH recently > switched > at my suggestion and is very happy with it. She is also switching over her > sister who has a handicap from a stroke because of the features that allow > you to click on changes you want to make rather than rekeying. > > > > Here is a link if you want to try out either program in a demo form free > also: http://www.rootsmagic.com/demo.htm > > > Pricing > RootsMagic 4 is available for only $29.95. Existing RootsMagic and Family > Origins users may upgrade for only $19.95. > Discount Offer > For the first time in company history, users of other genealogy software > programs can receive a competitive upgrade discount. Through May 31, 2009, > users of Personal Ancestral File (PAF), Family Tree Maker, Legacy Family > Tree, or The Master Genealogist may purchase RootsMagic 4 for only $19.95, > saving $10 off of the regular price. > > > > The Genealogy Insider posted this about FS awards given recently with RM4 > receiving Best Dashboard and Easiest to Sync: > > The 2009 FamilySearch Software Award winners, which include desktop > programs, online tools and developers' tools, were named last night at the > FamilySearch Developers Conference in Provo, Utah. > > Here's the list (click a program's name to visit its Web site): > > Desktop Productivity > Ancestral Quest (Incline Software): Best Listing Tool > FamilyInsight (Ohana Software): Best Standardizer > RootsMagic 4 (RootsMagic): Best Dashboard > > Desktop Syncing or Tree-Cleaning > Ancestral Quest (Incline Software): Most Comprehensive Syncing > FamilyInsight (Ohana Software): Best Person Separator > RootsMagic 4 (RootsMagic): Easiest to Sync > > Desktop Use of Media > Charting Companion (Progeny Software): Best for Desktop Printing > > Web Productivity > Grow Branch (US Family Tree): Best Web Site Feature for Publishing > (LDS Church members can use this service to submit ancestors for temple > work.) > > Web Use of Media > Generation Maps: Best Web Site Feature for Printing > TreeSeek: Best Web Site Feature for Mapping (requires users to have a "New > Family Search" account) > > Developers Choice Awards > David Pugmire's fsapi.net: Best API Library > Ben Godard's fs-ubiquity: Potential Future Impact on the Genealogy > Industry > > See FamilyTreeMagazine.com's genealogy software guide for information > desktop programs for Mac and Windows. > > > > > Below is a clip about the features that are new. One I don't see listed is > that it is written in Unicode which impressed my System's Manager husband. > > Unicode Support > So what is Unicode? Basically Unicode support means that RootsMagic isn't > limited to just "western European" languages anymore. RootsMagic 4 can now > handle Polish, Cyrillic, Kanji, and most any other language you can throw > at > it. > > Impressive New Features > > "RootsMagic 4 is the biggest release in our 20-year history of making > genealogy software," said Bruce Buzbee, president. "We've updated > RootsMagic to work with the latest genealogical technologies available > today, while staying true to our mission to make family history easy, > accessible, and fun." > > RootsMagic 4 boasts an impressive list of new features including > integrated > web search, improved SourceWizard for citing sources, sharing events among > multiple persons, creating pre-defined groups of persons, person and place > mapping, recording DNA tests, and improved navigation and data entry. > RootsMagic 4 is also one of the only desktop genealogy programs certified > to > work with "New FamilySearch". > > > I am more than happy with RM4 and also was with RM3. > > Nancy Scott > Cincinnati, Ohio > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter F. > Thorne > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:06 PM > To: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDS-WC] What genealogy program do I select? > > Hi! > > > > I have been using Personal Ancestry File published by the Church. With the > announcement that this program will no longer be supported, I have been > considering selecting a commercial program. While NFS is great for > recording > information, I felt that research for new information might be enhanced by > subscribing to Ancestry, RootsMagic or similar program. > > > > I realize that I have no knowledge about commercial programs and what they > offer. Consequently, I felt some of you might share some of your insights > and experiences that would help me in this decision. I am also looking for > other programs for personal history, family atlas or any other programs > you > might recommend. > > > > Peter F. Thorne > > Toms River, NJ > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I miss the sacrament twice every Sunday and singing and rehearsing songs for sacrament meeting. But most I miss the hours I spent with the other members between the meetings in their homes eating a sandwich and just being together - merely because it was too far to go home between meetings. But I know it was Sunday school because: :-) At that time women were not to speak in sacrament meetings as far as I remember. I was so new and so shaky about speaking - but the sun was shining. :-) Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Harry Laughman Sendt: 2. maj 2009 22:53 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] No-one is "stupid" Helle, I didn't think anyone remembered giving talks in Sunday School any more. That seemed so long ago.   Harry WE should all be thankful for what we have. We can only truly know who we are when we learn our past E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) Databaseversion: 6.12300 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Tried it a bit ago, and this time it worked. But the sync feature is what I want to work, I don't want to have to manually log into nfs 10,000 times to update peoples data, I'd like sync to handle that. Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:43 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Member can't find her sealing to her deceased parents in nFS Fred, you can. In Summary for individual, change information to correct one. David Samuelsen

Thanks Megan. Also a great day to you:-) Helle Næstved in Denmark -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Megan Smith Sendt: 2. maj 2009 21:30 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] No-one is "stupid" Helle, I just love your positive answers to everything - you are a breath of fresh air! Have a great day! Megan Smith Las Vegas, NV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helle Thor Hirschmann" <helle@hirschmann.dk> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:25 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] No-one is "stupid" In this work I do not like when some-one calls him- or herself a fool or stupid. We all have to learn and go step by step. Was I stupid 32 years ago when I gave my first talk in Sunday school wearing a skirt and a T-shirt with bare shoulders? No - I do not think so - I had not learned what to wear. When we hurry and write something on this list, I believe we are "eagerly engaged" - and then when we go back and see what we should have seen in the first place - well, and then we have learned something and are not likely to forget it again. Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Carrie Taylor Sendt: 2. maj 2009 06:06 Til: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Emne: [LDS-WC] Unable to Print FOR Solution- Okay, Folks-I can officially have the word "stupid" tattooed on my forehead. Want to know what the solution to my dilemma was? I mistakenly assumed that the first page that came up when I wanted to reprint the FOR contained ALL the FOR's I had printed. I must have overlooked the little word in the upper right hand corner that said "next page"! When I clicked on that two more times the wanted FOR's showed up...It has been a long week of gardening in 90 degree weather-I guess I fried my brain...Thanks to all who responded and tried to help. Sincerely, Carrie Taylor in VA Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) Databaseversion: 6.12300 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) Databaseversion: 6.12300 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) Databaseversion: 6.12300 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail checket af Spyware Doctor(6.0.1.441) Databaseversion: 6.12300 http://www.pctools.com/dk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Yep, and having said that, everyone MUST have a separate, personal genealogy database. Some of the early talk of members not needing one, is now moot. The existing Ancestral file and PRF data will not sync with members databases if that data shows the person as living, even if they have been dead 200 years. And if you have new information containing their death info, still no good, as the nFS's record shows them as living, and trump's your info..So we now have two databases to maintain, our own, and nFS's, which will contain somewhat different information..I have a several folks in my database who have died, but I can't sync them (with FI) because they are not dead in nFS, even though I have supplied the death info from my PAF file..I will try adding the info manually to nFS, but I have not had a lot of luck with that in the past... Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary S. Scott (Michigan) Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:09 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Member can't find her sealing to her deceased parents in nFS We must remember to teach our members that the NFS and FT are for the deceased. [(fvp)] <snip>

Fred, you can. In Summary for individual, change information to correct one. David Samuelsen Fred V Provoncha wrote: > Yep, and having said that, everyone MUST have a separate, personal genealogy > database. Some of the early talk of members not needing one, is now moot. > The existing Ancestral file and PRF data will not sync with members > databases if that data shows the person as living, even if they have been > dead 200 years. And if you have new information containing their death info, > still no good, as the nFS's record shows them as living, and trump's your > info..So we now have two databases to maintain, our own, and nFS's, which > will contain somewhat different information..I have a several folks in my > database who have died, but I can't sync them (with FI) because they are not > dead in nFS, even though I have supplied the death info from my PAF file..I > will try adding the info manually to nFS, but I have not had a lot of luck > with that in the past... > > Regards, Fred

No, she wants to find her own sealing -- just to make sure it is there. So she really can't find it, just like she can't see her own baptism. I was afraid that might be the case. I wonder if this information is part of her membership record, by the way. So she could check her own Ordinance Summary to be sure. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sylvia H. Sonneborn" <slysyl@verizon.net> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:56 PM To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Member can't find her sealing to her deceased parentsin nFS > Temple ordinances do not show up for the living in nFS. > > Now if she is checking for temple work for a deceased person and can't > find > it, she should check everyone for duplications. Sometimes the temple work > shows up on just one file that has not yet been combined. A friend of > mine > could not find her brother's sealing to their deceased parents. Then we > noticed she did not have a death date for her brother. Once she put that > in, the sealing information appeared. It probably has something to do with > the fact that she is living. > > If she is looking for unlisted temple work for a deceased person, she > should > check duplicates and if she still cannot find the dates, she can go to > labs.familysearch.org and Family Tree and add it and the appropriate dates > from her records, but it will say "conditional" beside the sealing date on > nFS. For the deceased with no temple work showing that she knows is done, > she should contact Family Support and ask them to help her correct the > information. > Sylvia > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jorge > Todeschini > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:42 PM > To: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com; lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDS-WC] Member can't find her sealing to her deceased parents in > nFS > > Hello, list. > > How can I help a member find her own sealing to parents information in > nFS? > She was sealed to her already deceased parents many years ago. She just > registered to nFS and she can see her membership information (wirh her > married name, not maiden name), but no sealing information. > > Thank you already for your help. > > Jorge Todeschini > > Porto Alegre Brazil First Ward > Porto Alegre Brazil Moinhos de Vento Stake > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, list. How can I help a member find her own sealing to parents information in nFS? She was sealed to her already deceased parents many years ago. She just registered to nFS and she can see her membership information (wirh her married name, not maiden name), but no sealing information. Thank you already for your help. Jorge Todeschini Porto Alegre Brazil First Ward Porto Alegre Brazil Moinhos de Vento Stake

Excellent point, John! I just added this to my file called "Youth Family History class and training." -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Vilburn Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:03 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to get teens interested in FH? HELP! Recently I attended a family history conference and talked with some of the FamilySearch Indexing representatives from Salt Lake. They said that many wards had more success with indexing when they approached the youth instead of the adults. There is a time and season for everything. For the youth, indexing may be a better fit for their lives than other genealogical pursuits. Aloha, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra E Harris" <sehharris@juno.com> To: <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:33 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] How to get teens interested in FH? HELP! >I have seen on this site what I thought were excellent suggestions for > getting ward teenagers involved in family history. However, since that > was many months ago and I didn't need that info at the time I didn't save > it. I do recall a few suggestions but would appreciate hearing from any > of you who have had success working with these busy, busy young people. > My husband and I as ward consultants are excited to work with the youth > but we want to start out right by impressing them with the importance of > this work but also acknowledging how busy most of them are already. We > do not want to say or do anything that will discourage them. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Sandra Harris > Tucson > ____________________________________________________________ > Click now for prescreened plumbing contractors. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTRHI9FPywA0iVF3DhoX4LJ1btl LC8f3ZTH3iWzN1Vn9fJ2gNuPbTy/ > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guess I don't understand what is a family screen? Thanks Nancy -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 2:03 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Help understanidng NFS yes - in family screen rather than individual screen. David Samuelsen Nancy Gibert wrote: > Do you have to be on a specific screen when you submit to get the parents > listed? > Nancy in MI Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a way to get it added quickly, use feedback to notify the membership dept and they will take care of it promptly. Even missing ordinances as it was in case of one couple I helped, her uncle and aunt's sealing was missing for over a year. David Samuelsen Peter wrote: > > Ordinance info for the living is not on nFS or FT. The only way is to ask > her membership clerk for her membership print out. > > Remember too that adding a death date in FT on a membership record will not > make the original ordinance information appear. The death date needs to be > added by the membership department which will release the info to nFS and FT. > > > Groetjes > Peter

you select the person in question. click "Parents and Siblings" - this is family screen displaying the family of the person as the child. David Samuelsen Nancy Gibert wrote: > I guess I don't understand what is a family screen? > Thanks > Nancy