That is correct. Just what the source say. David Beverly wrote: > Plus we need to remember that not everyone in every place in every time > is or has been as knowledgeable as Mr. Samuelson. Thus, you will find > that when naming a cemetery not everyone followed Mr. Samuelson's rules. > I say enter the cemetery name the same as it was found in your source. > > Beverly >

Plus we need to remember that not everyone in every place in every time is or has been as knowledgeable as Mr. Samuelson. Thus, you will find that when naming a cemetery not everyone followed Mr. Samuelson's rules. I say enter the cemetery name the same as it was found in your source. Beverly -- Mailto:fls1ldy@cableone.net Families are Forever!

That was the "can be" part..1/2 of my ancestors are buried in gender specific Catholic cemeteries... Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:20 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question Sainte is Latin and French, usually found in some areas where it is used. In English, it is not gender specific. David Samuelsen Fred V Provoncha wrote: > Note that Saint can be gender specific..St., Saint, Ste. or Sainte... > > Regards, Fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David > Samuelsen > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:57 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question > > It should always be St. even the system will accept either St. or Saint. > I prefer Saint for the name of cemetery while the city is spelled with St. > > The more tricky one is, St. John's or is it St. Johns. The answer, make > effort to verify how the cemetery is spelled. > > David Samuelsen > > Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: >> That would be good if there was a consistent standard for burial > information on New FamilySearch. >> What I wonder about is whether the cemetery names would need some > guidelines. One submitter could say the cemetery was Saint John's Cemetery > and another one St. John's Cemetery. Would these be treated as separate > listings? >> It would be nice if the cemetery came up like the regular places. (I have > no one buried in Utah and haven't noticed this feature for my husband's > family). >> Mary Scott >> Northville Ward >> Westland Michigan Stake >> >> Detroit Michigan Temple >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:22:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question >> >> Why would the system already approved for Utah cemeteries but not out of >> state? >> >> This was pointed out and the submitters won the battle, now we can force >> the name of cemetery in the burial line before the city to make it right. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Spellings may change with the times though too. I know that in the early newsapers, Holy Sepulchre (as it is spelled now) was spelled Holy Sepulcher. Nothing like history to change what we think we know. Have a happy holiday, folks. Karen In a message dated 5/25/2009 9:49:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, unclefvp@verizon.net writes: Note that Saint can be gender specific..St., Saint, Ste. or Sainte... Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:57 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question It should always be St. even the system will accept either St. or Saint. I prefer Saint for the name of cemetery while the city is spelled with St. The more tricky one is, St. John's or is it St. Johns. The answer, make effort to verify how the cemetery is spelled. David Samuelsen Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > That would be good if there was a consistent standard for burial information on New FamilySearch. > > What I wonder about is whether the cemetery names would need some guidelines. One submitter could say the cemetery was Saint John's Cemetery and another one St. John's Cemetery. Would these be treated as separate listings? > > It would be nice if the cemetery came up like the regular places. (I have no one buried in Utah and haven't noticed this feature for my husband's family). > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple > > > > > ________________________________ > From: W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:22:55 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question > > Why would the system already approved for Utah cemeteries but not out of > state? > > This was pointed out and the submitters won the battle, now we can force > the name of cemetery in the burial line before the city to make it right. > > David Samuelsen > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823249x1201398664/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62)

Note that Saint can be gender specific..St., Saint, Ste. or Sainte... Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:57 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question It should always be St. even the system will accept either St. or Saint. I prefer Saint for the name of cemetery while the city is spelled with St. The more tricky one is, St. John's or is it St. Johns. The answer, make effort to verify how the cemetery is spelled. David Samuelsen Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > That would be good if there was a consistent standard for burial information on New FamilySearch. > > What I wonder about is whether the cemetery names would need some guidelines. One submitter could say the cemetery was Saint John's Cemetery and another one St. John's Cemetery. Would these be treated as separate listings? > > It would be nice if the cemetery came up like the regular places. (I have no one buried in Utah and haven't noticed this feature for my husband's family). > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple > > > > > ________________________________ > From: W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:22:55 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question > > Why would the system already approved for Utah cemeteries but not out of > state? > > This was pointed out and the submitters won the battle, now we can force > the name of cemetery in the burial line before the city to make it right. > > David Samuelsen > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sainte is Latin and French, usually found in some areas where it is used. In English, it is not gender specific. David Samuelsen Fred V Provoncha wrote: > Note that Saint can be gender specific..St., Saint, Ste. or Sainte... > > Regards, Fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David > Samuelsen > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:57 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question > > It should always be St. even the system will accept either St. or Saint. > I prefer Saint for the name of cemetery while the city is spelled with St. > > The more tricky one is, St. John's or is it St. Johns. The answer, make > effort to verify how the cemetery is spelled. > > David Samuelsen > > Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: >> That would be good if there was a consistent standard for burial > information on New FamilySearch. >> What I wonder about is whether the cemetery names would need some > guidelines. One submitter could say the cemetery was Saint John's Cemetery > and another one St. John's Cemetery. Would these be treated as separate > listings? >> It would be nice if the cemetery came up like the regular places. (I have > no one buried in Utah and haven't noticed this feature for my husband's > family). >> Mary Scott >> Northville Ward >> Westland Michigan Stake >> >> Detroit Michigan Temple >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:22:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question >> >> Why would the system already approved for Utah cemeteries but not out of >> state? >> >> This was pointed out and the submitters won the battle, now we can force >> the name of cemetery in the burial line before the city to make it right. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

As some of you may recall, not so long ago I found I had two wives, one deceased, one living in nFS. It was not a membership problem. The nFS folks fixed the database..I now have only one living wife... Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary S. Scott (Michigan) Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:44 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Living showing deceased in nFS In reply to Joan Raney's email about the living parents being marked deceased. I think that this is a membership department situation and not necessarily a New FamilySearch problem. I think that the parents and/or daughter should contact the membership department of the Church directly about the parents being marked "deceased" when they are still living. Questions: do the ordinances for the parents show up? Could someone request to do any ordinances at all for them? The family should waste no time in contacting the membership department because it might be a snowball issue if they let it go. Someone (a distant relative) might think that the parents' ordinances are ready to be done. The membership department might ask for a letter from the parents but this is an easy task to do. While a ward clerk might be able to help, I would contact the membership department first and find out what they require to straighten it all out. Meanwhile, the sister should dispute the death information for the parents. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > In reply to Joan Raney's email about the living parents being marked deceased. > I think that this is a membership department situation and not necessarily a New FamilySearch problem. > I think that the parents and/or daughter should contact the membership department of the Church directly about the parents being marked "deceased" when they are still living. > Questions: do the ordinances for the parents show up? Could someone request to do any ordinances at all for them? > The family should waste no time in contacting the membership department because it might be a snowball issue if they let it go. Someone (a distant relative) might think that the parents' ordinances are ready to be done. > The membership department might ask for a letter from the parents but this is an easy task to do. > While a ward clerk might be able to help, I would contact the membership department first and find out what they require to straighten it all out. > Meanwhile, the sister should dispute the death information for the parents. > Mary Scott > To repeat what I said in my earlier email; This will only be a membership department issue if the death date was added in error by the membership department. And even then you do not need to contact the membership department directly. A simple email with the request and supporting information will take care of it. A death date manually entered in nFS on a membership record will not change the living status from the record and will not make the original ordinance dates show. If another record for a living individual was submitted by an individual and this record has a death date, it will need to go to FS support who will review it and remove the entry if necessary. Remember too that both of these records might be combined and and the death date seems to be part of the membership record while in fact it is not. So no matter what send it to FS support. Sincerely Elder van Schaik FamilySearch Support Membership record support. -- Peter http://familyrecordfinder.com/ If the Lord always answered our prayers just the way we wanted them, instead of being an act of faith it would only be an exercise in patience. Geof Lewis

It should always be St. even the system will accept either St. or Saint. I prefer Saint for the name of cemetery while the city is spelled with St. The more tricky one is, St. John's or is it St. Johns. The answer, make effort to verify how the cemetery is spelled. David Samuelsen Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > That would be good if there was a consistent standard for burial information on New FamilySearch. > > What I wonder about is whether the cemetery names would need some guidelines. One submitter could say the cemetery was Saint John's Cemetery and another one St. John's Cemetery. Would these be treated as separate listings? > > It would be nice if the cemetery came up like the regular places. (I have no one buried in Utah and haven't noticed this feature for my husband's family). > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple > > > > > ________________________________ > From: W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:22:55 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question > > Why would the system already approved for Utah cemeteries but not out of > state? > > This was pointed out and the submitters won the battle, now we can force > the name of cemetery in the burial line before the city to make it right. > > David Samuelsen > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Still use feedback to report them. The membership department DO respond. Ever find a record that is from LDS membership record and you find you can't merge it with another record? This is where the Membership Department comes in to do their action. I know from my dealings with such records in my family. and NO to ordinances showing up in parents' record if living. If dead, they will show up. The Membership Department does not ask for letter from parents because the records are already in Membership Department. Just lay out the facts to the Membership Department. The opposite of living, if you find parents or relatives and you know they are already dead but the Membership Department does not have the record of death (there were quite a number of instances of them in my family), they will ask for proof of record. Usually the first record is from the Social Security Death Index if listed. David Samuelsen Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > In reply to Joan Raney's email about the living parents being marked deceased. > > I think that this is a membership department situation and not necessarily a New FamilySearch problem. > > I think that the parents and/or daughter should contact the membership department of the Church directly about the parents being marked "deceased" when they are still living. > > Questions: do the ordinances for the parents show up? Could someone request to do any ordinances at all for them? > > The family should waste no time in contacting the membership department because it might be a snowball issue if they let it go. Someone (a distant relative) might think that the parents' ordinances are ready to be done. > > The membership department might ask for a letter from the parents but this is an easy task to do. > > While a ward clerk might be able to help, I would contact the membership department first and find out what they require to straighten it all out. > > Meanwhile, the sister should dispute the death information for the parents. > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple

That would be good if there was a consistent standard for burial information on New FamilySearch. What I wonder about is whether the cemetery names would need some guidelines. One submitter could say the cemetery was Saint John's Cemetery and another one St. John's Cemetery. Would these be treated as separate listings? It would be nice if the cemetery came up like the regular places. (I have no one buried in Utah and haven't noticed this feature for my husband's family). Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple ________________________________ From: W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:22:55 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Insight Question Why would the system already approved for Utah cemeteries but not out of state? This was pointed out and the submitters won the battle, now we can force the name of cemetery in the burial line before the city to make it right. David Samuelsen

In reply to Joan Raney's email about the living parents being marked deceased. I think that this is a membership department situation and not necessarily a New FamilySearch problem. I think that the parents and/or daughter should contact the membership department of the Church directly about the parents being marked "deceased" when they are still living. Questions: do the ordinances for the parents show up? Could someone request to do any ordinances at all for them? The family should waste no time in contacting the membership department because it might be a snowball issue if they let it go. Someone (a distant relative) might think that the parents' ordinances are ready to be done. The membership department might ask for a letter from the parents but this is an easy task to do. While a ward clerk might be able to help, I would contact the membership department first and find out what they require to straighten it all out. Meanwhile, the sister should dispute the death information for the parents. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple

It will show direct line if they are LDS. Anyone beyond that, is possible when added by the person. If you submitted files to the old Ancestral File (AF) with hundreds of your living cousins in it, they will show up in YOUR record because YOU were the submitter of the Ancestral File, ditto for Pedigree Record File (PRF). You will not see any living person if they were NOT in YOUR Ancestral File or Pedigree Record File submissions. The only way they will be visible to you is your being the submitter. Longest possible living direct line is 6 generations. So I can see my 2nd, 3rd, 4th cousins, etc because I submitted them. Not YOU unless YOU are member except for the fact YOU can't see my 2nd, 3rd, 4th cousins, etc unless YOU added yours, then they become visible to you one by one or emasse if by gedcom (which will cause YOU a nightmare because of constant record merging.) David Samuelsen Megan Smith wrote: > I was helping a sister in Sunday School today, and when we pulled up "See Me > and My Ancestors", not only did it show her, her son, and her living parents > in italics, but also her living grandmother in italics! How many > generations of living people should show? We had to go out and find the > record of her deceased grandfather and attach him to the family. She had > never even registered before, so she hadn't previously added those living > records to the database. Her deceased baby daughter is not listed in her > record, but she knows that's a problem in her Church membership record > (she's a single mom). I told her she could add the baby into her record, > but can't do the sealing since she's not married to the baby's father. > > Megan Smith > Las Vegas, NV > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

see reply below Family History Research wrote: > Joan Raney wrote: >> I had an interesting shift at the FHC yesterday. A patron came in asking >> for help with nFS. I was able to help her with some of her issues, but one >> I could not help her with. Her parents, who are living and church members, >> are showing as deceased on nFS. Others in her family who are living are >> showing with their names in italics, as they should. However, her parents' >> names are not italicized. We looked on nFS to see if there were other >> records out there that should be combined with hers (we were looking for the >> membership records) and couldn't find any more than what she already had. >> >> She said she called FH Support, and was on the phone for a long time with >> them. She said they did not help her. I gave her their email, and asked >> her to try again, but thought I would ask the listserv here, because I have >> received a lot of good instruction and advice over the years. >> >> Joan in NC > > > Joan, all depends where the death info came from and what kind of record > it is added too. > > Either case FS support should and will help her. > > If the death info is from membership, send the current contact info for > the people involved. > > If it was submitted by patrons, write support explaining the situation. > Include all details plus helper info. > > PS: If her request is not being dealt with please provide the details > off-list and I will pull her case and help her. > What to include in the email? 1. PID of the individual(s) 2. "Living Persons" in subject line 3. give all details you can of the individuals. David Samuelsen

I was helping a sister in Sunday School today, and when we pulled up "See Me and My Ancestors", not only did it show her, her son, and her living parents in italics, but also her living grandmother in italics! How many generations of living people should show? We had to go out and find the record of her deceased grandfather and attach him to the family. She had never even registered before, so she hadn't previously added those living records to the database. Her deceased baby daughter is not listed in her record, but she knows that's a problem in her Church membership record (she's a single mom). I told her she could add the baby into her record, but can't do the sealing since she's not married to the baby's father. Megan Smith Las Vegas, NV

I had an interesting shift at the FHC yesterday. A patron came in asking for help with nFS. I was able to help her with some of her issues, but one I could not help her with. Her parents, who are living and church members, are showing as deceased on nFS. Others in her family who are living are showing with their names in italics, as they should. However, her parents' names are not italicized. We looked on nFS to see if there were other records out there that should be combined with hers (we were looking for the membership records) and couldn't find any more than what she already had. She said she called FH Support, and was on the phone for a long time with them. She said they did not help her. I gave her their email, and asked her to try again, but thought I would ask the listserv here, because I have received a lot of good instruction and advice over the years. Joan in NC

Joan Raney wrote: > I had an interesting shift at the FHC yesterday. A patron came in asking > for help with nFS. I was able to help her with some of her issues, but one > I could not help her with. Her parents, who are living and church members, > are showing as deceased on nFS. Others in her family who are living are > showing with their names in italics, as they should. However, her parents' > names are not italicized. We looked on nFS to see if there were other > records out there that should be combined with hers (we were looking for the > membership records) and couldn't find any more than what she already had. > > She said she called FH Support, and was on the phone for a long time with > them. She said they did not help her. I gave her their email, and asked > her to try again, but thought I would ask the listserv here, because I have > received a lot of good instruction and advice over the years. > > Joan in NC Joan, all depends where the death info came from and what kind of record it is added too. Either case FS support should and will help her. If the death info is from membership, send the current contact info for the people involved. If it was submitted by patrons, write support explaining the situation. Include all details plus helper info. PS: If her request is not being dealt with please provide the details off-list and I will pull her case and help her. -- Peter http://familyrecordfinder.com/ I am not 50 something, I'm 49.95 plus shipping and handling

Send an e-mail to Support.  My living grandmother (member of the church) and her living siblings had been submitted for temple work by someone in the 1990s.  I sent Support an e-mail indicating that she was still living - as well as her living siblings - and indicated the towns where all of them are currently living as I don't know the ward names.   Support was able to fix all of them in nFS and also the IGI. Rebecca Christensen --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Joan Raney <joanie13@gmail.com> wrote: From: Joan Raney <joanie13@gmail.com> Subject: [LDS-WC] Living showing deceased in nFS To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:34 AM I had an interesting shift at the FHC yesterday.  A patron came in asking for help with nFS.  I was able to help her with some of her issues, but one I could not help her with.  Her parents, who are living and church members, are showing as deceased on nFS.  Others in her family who are living are showing with their names in italics, as they should.  However, her parents' names are not italicized.  We looked on nFS to see if there were other records out there that should be combined with hers (we were looking for the membership records) and couldn't find any more than what she already had. She said she called FH Support, and was on the phone for a long time with them.  She said they did not help her.  I gave her their email, and asked her to try again, but thought I would ask the listserv here, because I have received a lot of good instruction and advice over the years. Joan in NC

Why would the system already approved for Utah cemeteries but not out of state? This was pointed out and the submitters won the battle, now we can force the name of cemetery in the burial line before the city to make it right. David Samuelsen Mary S. Scott (Michigan) wrote: > > Karen is right, though, the name of the cemetery next to the city helps it all sort properly. It can be tricky to keep everything straight if the system doesn't approve of that format. > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I agree with using the cemetery name in the burial field. The cemetery name IS important...even moreso if it's obscure. NFS seems to almost "fight" you if you put in a place they've never heard of, doesn't it? I like the accuracy of the burial info and leave the death location to city and state. Sometimes people are buried far from where they died. Michele In a message dated 5/23/2009 1:50:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Sahara346@aol.com writes: I've been putting the cemetery name in along with city (if it isn't a rural county cemetery), the county & state. I realize that the system does not like that, BUT as someone who has helped read a lot of cemeteries with my genealogy society, not having a cemetery name can lead to a lengthy search if one is making a genealogy trip. **************A strong credit score is 700 or above. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585033x1201462753/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&b cd=Maystrongfooter52309NO115)