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    1. [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. I have to come up with no less than 720 to no more than 1800 male baptisms and no less than 360 to no more than 900 female baptisms by August 9th in time for their 12-Temple tour in 6 days span. That's Utah. This does not include Oquirrh Mountain Temple which is later. The Young Men and Young Women ward presidencies already scheduled and coordinated times with all 12 Temples. I've been busy coordinating several members to come up with more cards for them. So far just over 100 total. At least 2 members can fetch more than 2000 in less time because of their family's conversions and the records just opened up for them. The problem - it's the time factor - just 2 months!!! David Samuelsen

    05/31/2009 02:54:35
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] 1898 birthdates
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. Unless their birthdates are after today's date, which is less than 110 years. David Samuelsen JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > It would seem to me that person born in 1898 have now passed the 110 year > limit for temple ordinances without death dates. > > I've been working on files tonight and had two in a row born in 1898 who > were "not available." > > Is there a glitch in SL?

    05/31/2009 02:48:26
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] 1898 birthdates
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. There should not be such a glitch to block that. Unless somebody beat you to the punch line and reserved them?? David Samuelsen JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > It would seem to me that person born in 1898 have now passed the 110 year > limit for temple ordinances without death dates. > > I've been working on files tonight and had two in a row born in 1898 who > were "not available." > > Is there a glitch in SL? > > Michele > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May > ExcfooterNO62) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    05/31/2009 02:47:41
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] nFS errors of dead LDS records?
    2. One of my ward members told me today that he is so frustrated with all the duplications on NFS that he just send stuff to his cousin in Utah to submit for temple work so he doesn't have to mess with NFS. I cringed when he said it. Wish they'd hurry up and bring everybody on. Karen In a message dated 5/31/2009 6:49:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mscscott28@yahoo.com writes: Regarding the errors with deceased membership records, I have a friend here in Michigan who had a similar problem. My friend is Finnish but married an American in the 1980s. Her parents were members of the Church and stayed in Finland. Her father's death was reported correctly through membership records. When her mother died, it was not reported because she was living in Finland with a non-member adult son. We telephoned the Membership Department and found out what we needed to send them -- especially proof of death as was mentioned in previous answers. It really wasn't the fault of the local clerk. The mother was elderly and not able to attend Church anymore. The daughter who is a member lived thousands of miles away. Someone just didn't know. The non-member son probably didn't even know whom to contact. I think one of the best advantages of FamilySearch and Family Tree is that family members are noticing the errors in their documentation. Families also see what the clerks have on their records. This helps both the families and the Church membership department. Such errors are just something which happens but they can be straightened out with the proper documentation and the records updated. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62)

    05/31/2009 02:07:23
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits
    2. Harry Laughman
    3. Brother Samuelsen don't panic, remember your father gave you the assignment and he will, with your help, ensure it is completed in a timely manner.  I promise you do your part and he will do his part.   I know, I have been there in two different wards for a total of ten years.   Harry in Tucson WE should all be thankful for what we have. We can only truly know who we are when we learn our past --- On Sun, 5/31/09, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: From: W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> Subject: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits To: "LDS Ward Consultant" <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 8:54 PM I have to come up with no less than 720 to no more than 1800 male baptisms and no less than 360 to no more than 900 female baptisms by August 9th in time for their 12-Temple tour in 6 days span. That's Utah. This does not include Oquirrh Mountain Temple which is later. The Young Men and Young Women ward presidencies already scheduled and coordinated times with all 12 Temples. I've been busy coordinating several members to come up with more cards for them. So far just over 100 total. At least 2 members can fetch more than 2000 in less time because of their family's conversions and the records just opened up for them. The problem - it's the time factor - just 2 months!!! David Samuelsen Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/31/2009 02:00:49
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] nFS errors of dead LDS records?
    2. Mary S. Scott (Michigan)
    3. Regarding the errors with deceased membership records, I have a friend here in Michigan who had a similar problem. My friend is Finnish but married an American in the 1980s. Her parents were members of the Church and stayed in Finland. Her father's death was reported correctly through membership records. When her mother died, it was not reported because she was living in Finland with a non-member adult son. We telephoned the Membership Department and found out what we needed to send them -- especially proof of death as was mentioned in previous answers. It really wasn't the fault of the local clerk. The mother was elderly and not able to attend Church anymore. The daughter who is a member lived thousands of miles away. Someone just didn't know. The non-member son probably didn't even know whom to contact. I think one of the best advantages of FamilySearch and Family Tree is that family members are noticing the errors in their documentation. Families also see what the clerks have on their records. This helps both the families and the Church membership department. Such errors are just something which happens but they can be straightened out with the proper documentation and the records updated. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple

    05/31/2009 10:48:53
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] nFS errors of dead LDS records?
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. Family History Research wrote: > Whitcomb wrote: >> I ran across a REALLY strange situation yesterday... I was trying to help a >> sister missionary at the Family History Library >> >> Her (deceased) brother was a member of the Church in another country. His >> name did not come up in a search. I tried different variations on his >> Spanish name (both last names).. >> >> I suspect that a membership record got lost.. but I did not quiz the sister >> about her knowledge of her brother's death. Might it be that the record is >> not visible because the brother is still alive? >> Has anyone else had this problem? > > > Yes Allan, we get them regularly at FS Support. It might be that the > death was never recorded on the the membership record. > There are also cases were there was an excommunication or request to be > taking of the church records. By sending the information below it will > be researched and clarified. > > She needs to send her brother's full name, birth date and place, death > date and place as well as the info for the parents and spouse(s). > A digital copy of a death certificate, funeral program or obit is also > needed and should be attached to the email. > Instructions are in KD 104365 in the help center. > > Sincerely > Elder van Schaik > FamilySearch Support, Membership records In addition to what Elder van Schaik said, the membership records in another country outside of USA and Canada are not normally sent to the headquarters the same manner the records are routinely done in USA and Canada. It takes time to track down the whereabout of the record outside of USA and Canada. W. David Samuelsen

    05/31/2009 08:02:39
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] nFS errors of dead LDS records?
    2. Family History Research
    3. Whitcomb wrote: > I ran across a REALLY strange situation yesterday... I was trying to help a > sister missionary at the Family History Library > > Her (deceased) brother was a member of the Church in another country. His > name did not come up in a search. I tried different variations on his > Spanish name (both last names).. > > I suspect that a membership record got lost.. but I did not quiz the sister > about her knowledge of her brother's death. Might it be that the record is > not visible because the brother is still alive? > Has anyone else had this problem? Yes Allan, we get them regularly at FS Support. It might be that the death was never recorded on the the membership record. There are also cases were there was an excommunication or request to be taking of the church records. By sending the information below it will be researched and clarified. She needs to send her brother's full name, birth date and place, death date and place as well as the info for the parents and spouse(s). A digital copy of a death certificate, funeral program or obit is also needed and should be attached to the email. Instructions are in KD 104365 in the help center. Sincerely Elder van Schaik FamilySearch Support, Membership records -- Groetjes Peter http://familyrecordfinder.com/ Printed with 100% recycled electrons.

    05/31/2009 06:36:37
    1. [LDS-WC] nFS errors of dead LDS records?
    2. Whitcomb
    3. I ran across a REALLY strange situation yesterday... I was trying to help a sister missionary at the Family History Library Her (deceased) brother was a member of the Church in another country. His name did not come up in a search. I tried different variations on his Spanish name (both last names).. I suspect that a membership record got lost.. but I did not quiz the sister about her knowledge of her brother's death. Might it be that the record is not visible because the brother is still alive? Has anyone else had this problem? Alan

    05/31/2009 03:18:35
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] nFS errors of dead LDS records?
    2. John Vilburn
    3. Alan, It is possible that his ward clerk failed to update his membership record upon his death. That would mean that the record is there but not visible to his sister, since the system still sees him as living. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Whitcomb" <hwhitcomb@gmail.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:18 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] nFS errors of dead LDS records? >I ran across a REALLY strange situation yesterday... I was trying to help a > sister missionary at the Family History Library > > Her (deceased) brother was a member of the Church in another country. His > name did not come up in a search. I tried different variations on his > Spanish name (both last names).. > > I suspect that a membership record got lost.. but I did not quiz the > sister > about her knowledge of her brother's death. Might it be that the record > is > not visible because the brother is still alive? > > Has anyone else had this problem? > > Alan > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/31/2009 02:32:26
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Records Search
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. no images yet. Only Indexes. Site will be down from 6 am to 12 noon MDT Thursday. David Samuelsen JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > _Click here: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html_ > (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start) > > Today I read that Florida death records are on the Pilot Search. I cannot > access them. I can't get past the home page. I've tried two ways. Doing > a search for the name and locality and secondly by trying to get in > through getting to the listing of the Florida deaths. Nothing will load. > > I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. > > Is anyone else having trouble accessing this?? > > Michele > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > MaystepsfooterNO62) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    05/26/2009 04:11:59
    1. [LDS-WC] Records Search
    2. _Click here: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html_ (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start) Today I read that Florida death records are on the Pilot Search. I cannot access them. I can't get past the home page. I've tried two ways. Doing a search for the name and locality and secondly by trying to get in through getting to the listing of the Florida deaths. Nothing will load. I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. Is anyone else having trouble accessing this?? Michele **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= MaystepsfooterNO62)

    05/26/2009 03:53:36
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Records Search
    2. DC & Alice Allen
    3. It's working for me. I went in through the locality by clicking on the North American continent then selecting FL Deaths from the list. I see a few more things added since I was there last, including AL deaths. I think my husband's grandfather died in AL, so I will be checking that index out. It was very slow to even get into the pilot site, though. Maybe it's overloaded today. Alice Allen Oakhurst Ward Family History Consultant Vancouver WA Stake Portland OR Temple District *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 5/26/2009 at 9:53 PM JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: >_Click here: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html_ >(http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start) > >Today I read that Florida death records are on the Pilot Search. I >cannot >access them. I can't get past the home page. I've tried two ways. >Doing >a search for the name and locality and secondly by trying to get in >through getting to the listing of the Florida deaths. Nothing will load. > >I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. > >Is anyone else having trouble accessing this?? > >Michele

    05/26/2009 01:53:20
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Records Search
    2. Mary Ward
    3. I can get in with no problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JCBrooks@aol.com> To: <LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Records Search > _Click here: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html_ > (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start) > > Today I read that Florida death records are on the Pilot Search. I > cannot > access them. I can't get past the home page. I've tried two ways. > Doing > a search for the name and locality and secondly by trying to get in > through getting to the listing of the Florida deaths. Nothing will load. > > I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. > > Is anyone else having trouble accessing this?? > > Michele > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > MaystepsfooterNO62) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/26/2009 01:13:23
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Family Tree to become available in a read-only format to the Wasatch Front
    2. Stephen J. Kelsey
    3. Very good---BUT IT SHOULD PROBABLY SAY "will help eliminate" Steve Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. David Samuelsen Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:45 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Family Tree to become available in a read-only format to the Wasatch Front you left out the very important piece of information: "For members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints without access to New FamilySearch (NFS), read-only access to the Family Tree project of FamilySearch Labs will eliminate duplication of temple ordinances of Church members' ancestors." David Samuelsen DORIS BATEMAN wrote: > For those of you who do not subscribe to the Ancestry Insider blog, there was an article posted yesterday that quotes a new information in the help pages on FamilySearch Labs. It states the church is going to make Family Tree available with read-only access to church members on the Wasatch Front in order to reduce duplication in temple work until NFS is totally rolled out. It gives this quote from the help pages of FamilySearch Labs: > > "The Family Tree project is replacing the International Genealogical Index (IGI) as a resource to verify that temple ordinances are complete. . At first, as the Family Tree project is made available to Church members along the Wasatch Front, those members will have read-only access.. Members will not be able to change data or clear names for submission to the temple using the Family Tree project." > > The entire article is available at: > > http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project-to-eliminate -temple.html<http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project -to-eliminate-temple.html> > > The article also stated that there was no indication of when this access will start. > I think this is fantastic news for those of us on the Wasatch Front. As a family history consultant, I have hated trying to teach newbies how to use PAF Insight and the old temple ready system to search for completed ordinances, when they are just learning PAF and with newFamilySearch just on the horizon. I wonder, though, if we will have the capacity to combine duplicates, since the ordinance might show in some duplicates but not others; and since the current version of Family Tree will allow that function but not other corrections. I wonder if anyone else has heard of this upcoming release, and can tell us any more about it? > > Doris Bateman, Ogden Temple District > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/26/2009 04:34:31
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Family Tree to become available in a read-only format to the Wasatch Front
    2. Whitcomb
    3. I am glad to have read this Ancestry blog link. Does this apply to EVERYONE .. or just those in the Temple districts? It would make sense if it applied to everyone in Utah. I imagine that the account we set up to use FamilySearch Labs will work with nFS when the bugs are worked out. Alan, Ogden Temple District On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:44 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com>wrote: > you left out the very important piece of information: > > "For members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints without > access to New FamilySearch (NFS), read-only access to the Family Tree > project of FamilySearch Labs will eliminate duplication of temple > ordinances of Church members’ ancestors." > > David Samuelsen > > DORIS BATEMAN wrote: > > For those of you who do not subscribe to the Ancestry Insider blog, > there was an article posted yesterday that quotes a new information in the > help pages on FamilySearch Labs. It states the church is going to make > Family Tree available with read-only access to church members on the Wasatch > Front in order to reduce duplication in temple work until NFS is totally > rolled out. It gives this quote from the help pages of FamilySearch Labs: > > > > "The Family Tree project is replacing the International Genealogical > Index (IGI) as a resource to verify that temple ordinances are complete. . > At first, as the Family Tree project is made available to Church members > along the Wasatch Front, those members will have read-only access.. Members > will not be able to change data or clear names for submission to the temple > using the Family Tree project." > > > > The entire article is available at: > > > > > http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project-to-eliminate-temple.html > < > http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project-to-eliminate-temple.html > > > > > > The article also stated that there was no indication of when this > access will start. > > I think this is fantastic news for those of us on the Wasatch Front. As > a family history consultant, I have hated trying to teach newbies how to use > PAF Insight and the old temple ready system to search for completed > ordinances, when they are just learning PAF and with newFamilySearch just on > the horizon. I wonder, though, if we will have the capacity to combine > duplicates, since the ordinance might show in some duplicates but not > others; and since the current version of Family Tree will allow that > function but not other corrections. I wonder if anyone else has heard of > this upcoming release, and can tell us any more about it? > > > > Doris Bateman, Ogden Temple District > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/26/2009 04:20:37
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] Family Tree to become available in a read-only format to the Wasatch Front
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. you left out the very important piece of information: "For members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints without access to New FamilySearch (NFS), read-only access to the Family Tree project of FamilySearch Labs will eliminate duplication of temple ordinances of Church members’ ancestors." David Samuelsen DORIS BATEMAN wrote: > For those of you who do not subscribe to the Ancestry Insider blog, there was an article posted yesterday that quotes a new information in the help pages on FamilySearch Labs. It states the church is going to make Family Tree available with read-only access to church members on the Wasatch Front in order to reduce duplication in temple work until NFS is totally rolled out. It gives this quote from the help pages of FamilySearch Labs: > > "The Family Tree project is replacing the International Genealogical Index (IGI) as a resource to verify that temple ordinances are complete. . At first, as the Family Tree project is made available to Church members along the Wasatch Front, those members will have read-only access.. Members will not be able to change data or clear names for submission to the temple using the Family Tree project." > > The entire article is available at: > > http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project-to-eliminate-temple.html<http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project-to-eliminate-temple.html> > > The article also stated that there was no indication of when this access will start. > I think this is fantastic news for those of us on the Wasatch Front. As a family history consultant, I have hated trying to teach newbies how to use PAF Insight and the old temple ready system to search for completed ordinances, when they are just learning PAF and with newFamilySearch just on the horizon. I wonder, though, if we will have the capacity to combine duplicates, since the ordinance might show in some duplicates but not others; and since the current version of Family Tree will allow that function but not other corrections. I wonder if anyone else has heard of this upcoming release, and can tell us any more about it? > > Doris Bateman, Ogden Temple District > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    05/26/2009 02:44:37
    1. [LDS-WC] Family Tree to become available in a read-only format to the Wasatch Front
    2. DORIS BATEMAN
    3. For those of you who do not subscribe to the Ancestry Insider blog, there was an article posted yesterday that quotes a new information in the help pages on FamilySearch Labs. It states the church is going to make Family Tree available with read-only access to church members on the Wasatch Front in order to reduce duplication in temple work until NFS is totally rolled out. It gives this quote from the help pages of FamilySearch Labs: "The Family Tree project is replacing the International Genealogical Index (IGI) as a resource to verify that temple ordinances are complete. . At first, as the Family Tree project is made available to Church members along the Wasatch Front, those members will have read-only access.. Members will not be able to change data or clear names for submission to the temple using the Family Tree project." The entire article is available at: http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project-to-eliminate-temple.html<http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009/05/family-tree-project-to-eliminate-temple.html> The article also stated that there was no indication of when this access will start. I think this is fantastic news for those of us on the Wasatch Front. As a family history consultant, I have hated trying to teach newbies how to use PAF Insight and the old temple ready system to search for completed ordinances, when they are just learning PAF and with newFamilySearch just on the horizon. I wonder, though, if we will have the capacity to combine duplicates, since the ordinance might show in some duplicates but not others; and since the current version of Family Tree will allow that function but not other corrections. I wonder if anyone else has heard of this upcoming release, and can tell us any more about it? Doris Bateman, Ogden Temple District

    05/25/2009 11:17:59
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] PAF5 Blood lines
    2. david whittall
    3. Thanks Jorge, I now have a more more manageable family tree of 2700 people including my wife's blood line too. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Todeschini" <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] PAF5 Blood lines > Hello, Dave. > > You can do it as follows: > 1) Select yourself > 2) Select all of your ancestors and their descendants like this: > 2a) Search Individual List (CTRL+F) > 2b) Click Advanced > > 2c) In the relationship filter, choose ancestors in the drop-down list, > click select and enter the number of generations of ancestors you want to > include in your GEDCOM (to be sure, enter a large number, such as 50), > then > do the same for the generations of descendants (this will be descendants > of > your ancestors; for example, if you choose 3 and 3, this will include you, > your parents, your grandparents, then three generations of your > descendants, > three generations from your parents, meaning you, your siblings, you > children, and your nephews and nieces, and three from your grandparents, > meaning your parents, uncles and nieces, yourself and siblings, and your > cousins). You can decide whether you want to check spouses, too. (I would, > no point in having hundreds of blood relatives without their > "not-related-to-me" moms or dads) > 2d) click OK. > 2e) In the relationship filter, you can choose descendants in the > drop-down > list, just to be sure because you may have already included all possible > descendants through step 2c above. You can decide whether you want to > check > spouses, too. (Again, I would, no point in including my grandchildren but > not my son-ins-law and daughters-in-law) > 2f) click OK. > 3) Now you can go to File>Export and export a GEDCOM with this partial > list > of individuals. (I can give more details about this, but I guess you can > move on by yourself from this point on.) > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "david whittall" <davidandmargaret@talktalk.net> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:48 AM > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LDS-WC] PAF5 Blood lines > >> Hi, >> I have over 30,000 names in my tree in PAF 5. >> How can I create a Gedcom of just my blood relatives from this tree, >> which >> includes many relations linked through in - laws families etc . >> Which has grown like Topsy into an unmanageable monster. >> Would be grateful for some help. >> Thanks >> Dave Whittall >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/25/2009 04:33:34
    1. Re: [LDS-WC] How many generations of living people should show?
    2. Whitcomb
    3. If anyone was as foolish as my wife.. living people who were submitted to the PRF will show, and it would be better for everyone to at least change their birth information (date and place) to a blank. To show how good the system is .. I can not "see" in nFS my daughter-in-law nor granddaughter's record. So you can see going up.. but not going down. Alan On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:18 PM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com>wrote: > It will show direct line if they are LDS. Anyone beyond that, is > possible when added by the person. > > If you submitted files to the old Ancestral File (AF) with hundreds of > your living cousins in it, they will show up in YOUR record because YOU > were the submitter of the Ancestral File, ditto for Pedigree Record File > (PRF). > > You will not see any living person if they were NOT in YOUR Ancestral > File or Pedigree Record File submissions. The only way they will be > visible to you is your being the submitter. >

    05/25/2009 04:18:18