Stephen J. Kelsey wrote: > I certainly must echo the sentiments here. The youth leaders seem to have > no > Idea what it takes to get names for the kids to do baptisms for the dead. True for many but not in my ward. They knew what was involved because they are also Temple workers, too! It is the math of the cards. I was asked to explain the logistics of getting that many in short notice next Sunday to the youths for 5 to 10 minutes. Jill Crandall is right on the mark, it's Utah temples with their requirements. Only Salt Lake Temple does not require the cards, can use Temple file to supply the names. Salt Lake Temple is my ward's primary Temple (requires 2 times per year per Temple President's assignments to the wards/stakes in the district to supply youths for baptisms) with additional Bountiful and Jordan River Temples occasionally. David Samuelsen

only my ward is involved. No Bishop Ludlow. David Stephen J. Kelsey wrote: > My I inquire if you have a Bishop Ludlow who is with this youth group? His > Father has asked me for help in getting baptismal names. If so, please let > Me know and I can assist you. > Stephen J. Kelsey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles Meyer > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:23 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits > > Why not help the youth get their own names? Can you have the YM > presidency get them together for a few hours each week and have them > work up some names? It would have more meaning to them to do their own > ancestors. Maybe get with the RS or HP and have them spend a day in > the FHC working up names. When we had a goal of x names in a year we > managed to do it by having 5 people work through their lines and get > the cards printed. This would be easier with nFS but it still isn't > impossible. > > As you said "The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc." What better way to give them the experience than to > actually do the research themselves. > > Miles Meyer > Jacksonville, FL > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> > wrote: >> Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, >> ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked >> with each Temple. Same instructions. >> >> I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young >> men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience >> of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long >> time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, >> Madrid, etc. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> Tom Kemp wrote: >>> The temples have all the names you need. >>> >>> Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be >>> appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull >>> names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). >>> >>> Tom >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

First question. Already working with them on that. The objective you stated was already met last year. The objective this year is to give them the experience the youths who live quite a distance from a temple to give them the idea how the members prepare, saving and travel at great expense, the distance ("Honeymoon Trail", etc) David Miles Meyer wrote: > Why not help the youth get their own names? Can you have the YM > presidency get them together for a few hours each week and have them > work up some names? It would have more meaning to them to do their own > ancestors. Maybe get with the RS or HP and have them spend a day in > the FHC working up names. When we had a goal of x names in a year we > managed to do it by having 5 people work through their lines and get > the cards printed. This would be easier with nFS but it still isn't > impossible. > > As you said "The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc." What better way to give them the experience than to > actually do the research themselves. > > Miles Meyer > Jacksonville, FL > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: >> Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, >> ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked >> with each Temple. Same instructions. >> >> I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young >> men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience >> of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long >> time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, >> Madrid, etc. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> Tom Kemp wrote: >>> The temples have all the names you need. >>> >>> Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be >>> appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull >>> names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). >>> >>> Tom >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

One story that goes over well for me and is one that almost every parent can relate to: I tell the story of the day I left one of my kids behind at church, or the days my one son would hide in the clothing racks at the store so I couldn't find him. He was there one minute and the next he was gone. Every parent knows the immediate panic that sets in while frantically trying to find their child. Then I ask them to multiply that feeling by 100, 200, 300, etc years or even eternity. How would they feel? I then relate a story about how I found out that my 3rd ggrandfather's family had their work done which I found on familysearch. I could have stopped there thinking that all the work was done. However I felt impressed to actually look at the research and as I continued digging in different areas where the family had been I eventually found five more children whose work had not been done. As a parent I couldn't imagine not wanting my children with me and I am sure my ancestors feet the same way. I said take the happiness and relief you have when you find your child that strayed away at the store or got left behind and then multiply THAT by years etc. Then you will know the joy in heaven when you find a missing child for your eternal family. Think of the joy you are bringing others when you find a "lost" family member. I have also used the idea from a member on this list about comparing family history work with the ten virgins. The jist of it is that we wouldn't assign someone else in the family to take care of all the prayers we need, or food storage or fulfilling callings so why do we expect Aunt Marge to do all the family history? We should be doing all of those things for ourselves(filling our oil vessels). You can spice it up more than that I am sure. Sincerely, Carrie Taylor Message: 7 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:36:27 -0400 From: Tom Kemp <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> Subject: [LDS-WC] Stake FH Fireside To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <45c595dc0905311836s4034875an5879f9b1132cdb9d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Team: What are your most effective: 1. Quotes - re: family history 2. Approaches to speaking on Family History - not as a how-to, not as a "why-to" but from the impact it has had on you. Many thanks, Tom

I attempted to print some FORs this morning. Some went through fine but Then after I had selected the maximum number of people and got to the Very end after the summary and going to the print request screen a Message came up that someone was editing one of the individuals and I Would have to try later. Have others had this experience? It is quite Cumbersome to select all of the individuals and then at the very end Have it stopped like that. Stephen J. Kelsey www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000 www.woodyatt.bravehost.com www.geocities.com/herefpr

I certainly must echo the sentiments here. The youth leaders seem to have no Idea what it takes to get names for the kids to do baptisms for the dead. I Have supplied the names for our ward kids twice a year for the last 8 to 10 years As well as a stake baptism project. I usually keep at least 150 on hand because The youth leaders will call and say they are going "next week" and do I have names For them. I guess I have made it too easy; but I am grateful that the work gets Done--the big problem is getting the rest of the work done after the baptisms and Confirmations are done. I usually end up taking most of the cards back to the Temple to get the endowments done. Steve Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sahara346@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 8:43 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits Sometimes it is in the research that we learn to know and love our ancestors. Sometimes it is in the service being rendered at some point within the Temple walls. But it is a connecting process. While I've had some special experiences with people that I don't know and have just been handed at the temple, the most unique experiences that I've had were with family names. Why cheat ourselves by not trying to do our own family names? That said, I am grateful that there are Temple files available, because when I find a mother lode of names that I can't possibly get done in a reasonable time with the number of family I have as a convert that are Temple worthy, I am happy that there is a Temple file available to assist. If our ward doesn't have a Youth trip coming up for baptisms, I sometimes hand the baptisms in at the office for someone else to do, but take care of the rest myself. They've had to wait long enough for me to find them, without waiting for months for me to get it done personally or to find someone to do the work as well. I try to limit my personal "pending" somewhat...and sometimes it works, and sometimes, I have a big stack to work through. Our Temple allows us to give them two names for endowments when we take one of our names through. Usually we split evenly with my husband, but one week I was getting well caught up on the sisters in my file, but still had a huge stack of brothers, so I told my husband to hand in two extra men for my "extra two." One evening recently, all but two of the sisters on one of the sessions I was with had family file names. While I know that there are people waiting in the Temple Files, I like to see that many Family File names go through. It means that more of us are doing what we're supposed to be doing. Karen In a message dated 6/1/2009 8:35:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: David wrote: Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, ward must supply the cards. Perhaps this is a Utah "rule," if others of you don't deal with this. David is correct. If a youth group plans a temple visit that is not their annual temple assignment, then they must provide their own names. I deal with this all the time. My understanding is that the purpose of this rule is to keep the baptisms in balance with the other ordinances of the temple. Family files can be worked on as submitted by patrons, but the temple file ordinances need to stay somewhat in balance. I'll echo what Miles said. One problem with these temple trips is that the youth get the idea that the names just appear and the ordinances are the beginning and end of the work. With Utah families, it isn't so simple to suddenly produce over a 1000 names that legitimately need the work done. I have talked with our youth leaders numerous times to teach them that the research and identifying names comes first, THEN the temple trips can be planned. As you might expect, I haven't gotten very far with that. David, I don't envy you the position you are in. It's hard to feel like you might disappoint the youth, but it's also difficult to assure that the names you are given on short notice are sufficiently researched and truly ready to be submitted. I hope you are able to get the names you need, but even if you do, I would use this as a teaching moment for the youth leaders and help them understand the FULL process of performing ordinances for our ancestors. Use the statements of the prophets that tell us the research is a crucial part of this work, and set up some classes for teaching the youth and their leaders how to do that research. Once they get involved in it, they will have an appreciation of what is needed to do quality work. Temple trips begin to have much greater meaning when these kids put in the effort and sacrifice to identify their ancestors and thus "know" them when they head to the temple. 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> Why not help the youth get their own > names?... Sorry, I'm a little late checking my e-mail, but this was my sentiment exactly. As wonderful an experience as they're going to have traveling around to the temples, it will be even more meaningful to them if they took names that they helped find. Also, they could use the time and education they get to satisfy goals in their different programs. I don't think you should feel that it's your responsibility alone to find the names. Think of yourself as the coordinator and the expert consultant. Since I know the bishop I can say that I have no doubt he would give his 100% support to have you lead whatever you needed to for the ward to be involved. Change it to a ward goal instead of your own personal goal. You just need to be there to teach them how and to watch the progress to keep them on track. Annaleise

David wrote: Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, ward must supply the cards. Perhaps this is a Utah "rule," if others of you don't deal with this. David is correct. If a youth group plans a temple visit that is not their annual temple assignment, then they must provide their own names. I deal with this all the time. My understanding is that the purpose of this rule is to keep the baptisms in balance with the other ordinances of the temple. Family files can be worked on as submitted by patrons, but the temple file ordinances need to stay somewhat in balance. I'll echo what Miles said. One problem with these temple trips is that the youth get the idea that the names just appear and the ordinances are the beginning and end of the work. With Utah families, it isn't so simple to suddenly produce over a 1000 names that legitimately need the work done. I have talked with our youth leaders numerous times to teach them that the research and identifying names comes first, THEN the temple trips can be planned. As you might expect, I haven't gotten very far with that. David, I don't envy you the position you are in. It's hard to feel like you might disappoint the youth, but it's also difficult to assure that the names you are given on short notice are sufficiently researched and truly ready to be submitted. I hope you are able to get the names you need, but even if you do, I would use this as a teaching moment for the youth leaders and help them understand the FULL process of performing ordinances for our ancestors. Use the statements of the prophets that tell us the research is a crucial part of this work, and set up some classes for teaching the youth and their leaders how to do that research. Once they get involved in it, they will have an appreciation of what is needed to do quality work. Temple trips begin to have much greater meaning when these kids put in the effort and sacrifice to identify their ancestors and thus "know" them when they head to the temple. Best of luck, Jill Crandell

Why not help the youth get their own names? Can you have the YM presidency get them together for a few hours each week and have them work up some names? It would have more meaning to them to do their own ancestors. Maybe get with the RS or HP and have them spend a day in the FHC working up names. When we had a goal of x names in a year we managed to do it by having 5 people work through their lines and get the cards printed. This would be easier with nFS but it still isn't impossible. As you said "The prime reason is to give the youths the experience of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, Madrid, etc." What better way to give them the experience than to actually do the research themselves. Miles Meyer Jacksonville, FL On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, > ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked > with each Temple. Same instructions. > > I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young > men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc. > > David Samuelsen > > Tom Kemp wrote: >> The temples have all the names you need. >> >> Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be >> appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull >> names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). >> >> Tom > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My I inquire if you have a Bishop Ludlow who is with this youth group? His Father has asked me for help in getting baptismal names. If so, please let Me know and I can assist you. Stephen J. Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles Meyer Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:23 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] this youth group has me in fits Why not help the youth get their own names? Can you have the YM presidency get them together for a few hours each week and have them work up some names? It would have more meaning to them to do their own ancestors. Maybe get with the RS or HP and have them spend a day in the FHC working up names. When we had a goal of x names in a year we managed to do it by having 5 people work through their lines and get the cards printed. This would be easier with nFS but it still isn't impossible. As you said "The prime reason is to give the youths the experience of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, Madrid, etc." What better way to give them the experience than to actually do the research themselves. Miles Meyer Jacksonville, FL On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, > ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked > with each Temple. Same instructions. > > I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young > men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc. > > David Samuelsen > > Tom Kemp wrote: >> The temples have all the names you need. >> >> Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be >> appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull >> names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). >> >> Tom > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

More "shadow leadership," right? Michele In a message dated 5/31/2009 10:59:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, Madrid, etc. **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377040x1201454360/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62)

what do you mean by that? Please elaborate. JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > More "shadow leadership," right? > > Michele > > > In a message dated 5/31/2009 10:59:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dsam52@sampubco.com writes: > > I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young > men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience > of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long > time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, > Madrid, etc. > > > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377040x1201454360/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun > eExcfooterNO62) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Contact via feedback about these cases. Give the specific information such as PIDs and explain the situtations. David Samuelsen JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > Nope, like September 1898...shows unavailable. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 5/31/2009 7:55:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dsam52@sampubco.com writes: > > Unless their birthdates are after today's date, which is less than 110 > years. > > David Samuelsen > > JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: >> It would seem to me that person born in 1898 have now passed the 110 > year >> limit for temple ordinances without death dates. >> >> I've been working on files tonight and had two in a row born in 1898 who > >> were "not available." >> >> Is there a glitch in SL? > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May > ExcfooterNO62) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Unfortunately, no. The instructions came from the temple presidents, ward must supply the cards. Believe me, the Young Men president checked with each Temple. Same instructions. I am NOT the one doing the coordinating the Temple expedition, the young men president is. The prime reason is to give the youths the experience of what the youths in far away countries face with planning for long time to go to Temples such as Frankfurt, Freiberg, Stockholm, Berne, Madrid, etc. David Samuelsen Tom Kemp wrote: > The temples have all the names you need. > > Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be > appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull > names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). > > Tom

Nope, like September 1898...shows unavailable. Michele In a message dated 5/31/2009 7:55:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: Unless their birthdates are after today's date, which is less than 110 years. David Samuelsen JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > It would seem to me that person born in 1898 have now passed the 110 year > limit for temple ordinances without death dates. > > I've been working on files tonight and had two in a row born in 1898 who > were "not available." > > Is there a glitch in SL? Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62)

Nope, not reserved, "not available" in now three cases...which usually means they are not ready for temple work because they aren't dead. Weird, huh? Michele In a message dated 5/31/2009 7:54:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: There should not be such a glitch to block that. Unless somebody beat you to the punch line and reserved them?? David Samuelsen JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > It would seem to me that person born in 1898 have now passed the 110 year > limit for temple ordinances without death dates. > > I've been working on files tonight and had two in a row born in 1898 who > were "not available." > > Is there a glitch in SL? > > Michele > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May > ExcfooterNO62) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62)

The temples have all the names you need. Since you are coordinating with the Temples - wouldn't that be appropriate for this Temple Expedittion? With nFS the Temples can pull names that were submitted by "patrons" (members). Tom On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, W. David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: > I have to come up with no less than 720 to no more than 1800 male > baptisms and no less than 360 to no more than 900 female baptisms by > August 9th in time for their 12-Temple tour in 6 days span. That's Utah. > This does not include Oquirrh Mountain Temple which is later. > > The Young Men and Young Women ward presidencies already scheduled and > coordinated times with all 12 Temples. > > I've been busy coordinating several members to come up with more cards > for them. So far just over 100 total. > > At least 2 members can fetch more than 2000 in less time because of > their family's conversions and the records just opened up for them. > > The problem - it's the time factor - just 2 months!!! > > David Samuelsen >

----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Kemp To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:36 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Stake FH Fireside Team: What are your most effective: 1. Quotes - re: family history D&C 138:10, 14-17, 48; "Because I have been given much, I too must give..." 2. Approaches to speaking on Family History - not as a how-to, not as a "why-to" but from the impact it has had on you. Think about a time when someone gave you a gift that you really wanted, that you had waited for a long time to get. How happy were you when finally you received that gift? Then think of how those whom you have helped to receive their temple ordinances must feel: the gratitude that must fill their hearts both to the Savior for having redeemed their souls and to you who have opened the door to eternal family life via the ordinances of the Holy Temple. Imagine their joy as you contemplate their being notified that these ordinances have been done for them. Share with the Savior the knowledge and satisfaction that you have participated with Him in achieving this wonderful thing. And then bow your head and thank God for the privilege of having done so. Barbara Jackson, Manahawkin NJ (Stafford Branch) Many thanks, Tom Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It would seem to me that person born in 1898 have now passed the 110 year limit for temple ordinances without death dates. I've been working on files tonight and had two in a row born in 1898 who were "not available." Is there a glitch in SL? Michele **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62)

Team: What are your most effective: 1. Quotes - re: family history 2. Approaches to speaking on Family History - not as a how-to, not as a "why-to" but from the impact it has had on you. Many thanks, Tom