To all who have concerns for and against nFS and FT "FOR" features. I find FT to be problemic in one aspect - requiring printing of cards for ENTIRE process while nFS allow you to select individually as needed for each ordinance. Like I can select a batch just for baptisms for the youths to do while select another batch of infant sealings (under 8 years old) and another batch for initiatories and NOT have to worry about lost cards. I don't see how it can be done in FT (there isn't!) W. David Samuelsen
Mary, I only use FamilyTree for the Temple Ordinance feature to print an FOR and to see who might have reserved the work otherwise I use NFS. When they have more features in FamilyTree, it should be more useful. I also do all my searching for duplicates in NFS before printing an FOR because the Search feature in FamilyTree for finding duplicates is inadequate in my opinion. In FamilyTree, the Temple Ordinances show up in an Excel type format and you just check a box for the individual FOR you want printed and it is very easy to read. I have never had any problem with the FOR not printing correctly in FamilyTree. Until everything is combined, I think that we may want to just go back and forth between the programs to use what we like best. It works for me and I am definitely a Blonde so it could work for almost anyone else. Another tool that I am using now is my RootsMagic4 program. It will let you reserve and print an FOR now. They just send out a FS memo on that. I have not tried it out yet but I will try it and let the Group know what I think about it another day. I have been using the RM4 FamilyCentral to combine duplicates and link my ancestors to NFS and that goes so quickly and easily, it is fantastic. I showed another Sister in my Ward how to use it yesterday as she has RM4 now also. RM4 also has a Search Feature built into it that is similar to the one in NFS where you can Search on a lot of fields. There is so much available to us and so much to learn. Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary S. Scott (Michigan) Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 08:13 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com; LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Problem with Reserved List of Temple Ordinances I have the same type of message all the time. It usually happens after all the family pages but BEFORE the list of individuals without their families. It is so frustrating to have a FOR in process and then have the entire task aborted. I actually like New FamilySearch better than FamilyTree -- perhaps because it is more familiar to me. The one thing I do not like about NFS is the temple ordinance section. I think that it would be easier if 1. the families showed up alphabetically by the father's surname. 2. patrons could skip to different surnames with a alphabetical tab. 3. patrons could choose to look at families or the individual list. 4. individuals and families with ordinances to be done by the temples should be highlighted differently somehow so that we don't mistakenly choose them (or one of their ordinances) in our family file. (Otherwise, if you choose one of those individuals, it aborts the family file process at the end of the selection session.) I like what the software engineers did to the area showing the "combined" information for a person. Too bad they couldn't do something as wonderful with the temple ordinance section. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Can you just go into FamilyTree and look at the names there? I never use the NFS Reserved Ordinances because there are too many pages and FamilyTree is so much easier to work with. Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gay Davis Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 02:28 AM To: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Subject: [LDS-WC] Problem with Reserved List of Temple Ordinances When I go into NFS and click on Temple Ordinances and then on "Select Individuals or Families from My Reserved List,"the first page of my names comes up. When I try to continue to the next page, I get an error report and under details it states Key - Request URI Value - /en/action/errorview I have reported this to Salt Lake who referred it to "Engineering." I have gotten no response, although I have done this twice. Has anyone else had this problem and can you tell me how to correct it? Thx. Gay Davis Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have the same type of message all the time. It usually happens after all the family pages but BEFORE the list of individuals without their families. It is so frustrating to have a FOR in process and then have the entire task aborted. I actually like New FamilySearch better than FamilyTree -- perhaps because it is more familiar to me. The one thing I do not like about NFS is the temple ordinance section. I think that it would be easier if 1. the families showed up alphabetically by the father's surname. 2. patrons could skip to different surnames with a alphabetical tab. 3. patrons could choose to look at families or the individual list. 4. individuals and families with ordinances to be done by the temples should be highlighted differently somehow so that we don't mistakenly choose them (or one of their ordinances) in our family file. (Otherwise, if you choose one of those individuals, it aborts the family file process at the end of the selection session.) I like what the software engineers did to the area showing the "combined" information for a person. Too bad they couldn't do something as wonderful with the temple ordinance section. Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake Detroit Michigan Temple
When I go into NFS and click on Temple Ordinances and then on "Select Individuals or Families from My Reserved List,"the first page of my names comes up. When I try to continue to the next page, I get an error report and under details it states Key - Request URI Value - /en/action/errorview I have reported this to Salt Lake who referred it to "Engineering." I have gotten no response, although I have done this twice. Has anyone else had this problem and can you tell me how to correct it? Thx. Gay Davis
Thank you all for your comments about transferring notes. I have passed this information onto the person who requested it. And have learned myself. Donna in Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert J. Harper" <kbh321@yahoo.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom I transferred some notes from NFS to my PAF file yesterday by copying and pasting. If the tool bar showing edit does not show highlite the notes and use the hot key CTRL C to copy and then paste in PAF. When NFS came out I used the Copy and Paste sequence to put somenotes in NFS. --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Jorge Todeschini <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: > From: Jorge Todeschini <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 9:11 PM > Clearly, then, adding a GEDCOM and > thus introducing duplicates only for the > sake of adding sources and notes is not the best thing to > do. > > Right? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Miles Meyer" <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:01 PM > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS > as gedcom > > > The question was how do you add notes from your file > without adding > > the whole gedcom. The easiest way is to sync the files > with AQ or > > FamilyInsight. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jorge Todeschini > > <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Why add a GEDCOM with individuals already on nFS > anyway? > >> > >> In any case, a GEDCOM can be created without LDS > ordinances so the > >> overwriting mentioned below does not have to > happen. > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:39 PM > >> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources > into nFS as gedcom > >> > >>> You are much better off to not use a gedcom, > particularly if you > >>> Have used temple ready and have the SUB in the > ordinance dates as > >>> Nfs interprets them as COMPLETED and > overwrites the actual dates or > >>> In progress statement, depending on how you > combine the individuals. > >>> I use it only to transfer small groups into > nfs on which I am certain > >>> There are no submitted nor ordinance dates in > my gedcom. > >>> > >>> Steve Kelsey > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > >>> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Miles > >>> Meyer > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:31 PM > >>> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring > notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > >>> > >>> Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I > use it all the time to add > >>> notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I > keep all my sources as > >>> notes. > >>> > >>> Miles Meyer > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. > <angelchatter@shaw.ca> > wrote: > >>>> Does anyone know of a program that will > transfer notes into new > >>> FamilySearch without transferring whole > file? Thought I heard from > >>> someone, > >>> that we could .... > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> Donna in Canada > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > >>> > >> > >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > >> > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> It may be a function of the expectation of completing 200-300 baptisms per > day. They divide that between whatever the number of youth who show up. > So if we have smaller crowds, they get to do more. > > Things may change for your temples once you go on NFS. > > Michele That is how Salt Lake Temple does it. The constant problem is school days, especially Tuesdays and Wednesdays, not enough during the mornings and early afternoons, hence more baptisms per person. That is why I planned on 10 to 25 per person for this youth group to cover 12 temples in 6 days, allowing for the leeway in each temple in accordance with each temple's flexible rules. It could be 10 in the mornings while more in afternoon/evenings. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday it is 2 temples each. Thursday it's 3 temples. Saturday one temple. David Samuelsen
I do it all of the time with FamilyInsight. Works just fine. I like to put my sources in to show that I have documented my research and where it comes from. My notes are more personal and lengthy so I don't use them. Donna, Redding 1st Ward FHC,California. ----- Original Message ----- From: <lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:22 PM Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 245 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest > version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember > to restrict the size of your post. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom (Miles Meyer) > 2. Re: transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > (Stephen J. Kelsey) > 3. Re: transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > (Jorge Todeschini) > 4. Re: transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom (Miles Meyer) > 5. Re: transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom (Shanna Jones) > 6. Re: transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > (Jorge Todeschini) > 7. Re: transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > (dsam52@sampubco.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:30:39 -0400 > From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <3ae068010906031330o684f9b9codf2291aaf656dd2c@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I use it all the time to add > notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I keep all my sources as > notes. > > Miles Meyer > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. <angelchatter@shaw.ca> wrote: >> Does anyone know of a program that will transfer notes into new >> FamilySearch without transferring whole file? ?Thought I heard from >> someone, that we could .... >> >> Thanks >> >> Donna in Canada >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:39:48 -0600 > From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU133-DAV7783C3CDA1164DF3140B7D14A0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You are much better off to not use a gedcom, particularly if you > Have used temple ready and have the SUB in the ordinance dates as > Nfs interprets them as COMPLETED and overwrites the actual dates or > In progress statement, depending on how you combine the individuals. > I use it only to transfer small groups into nfs on which I am certain > There are no submitted nor ordinance dates in my gedcom. > > Steve Kelsey > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles Meyer > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:31 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > > Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I use it all the time to add > notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I keep all my sources as > notes. > > Miles Meyer > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. <angelchatter@shaw.ca> wrote: >> Does anyone know of a program that will transfer notes into new > FamilySearch without transferring whole file? ?Thought I heard from > someone, > that we could .... >> >> Thanks >> >> Donna in Canada >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:58:50 -0300 > From: "Jorge Todeschini" <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY141-DS6373C9EC2D76D7BCAC810B64A0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Why add a GEDCOM with individuals already on nFS anyway? > > In any case, a GEDCOM can be created without LDS ordinances so the > overwriting mentioned below does not have to happen. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:39 PM > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > >> You are much better off to not use a gedcom, particularly if you >> Have used temple ready and have the SUB in the ordinance dates as >> Nfs interprets them as COMPLETED and overwrites the actual dates or >> In progress statement, depending on how you combine the individuals. >> I use it only to transfer small groups into nfs on which I am certain >> There are no submitted nor ordinance dates in my gedcom. >> >> Steve Kelsey >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles >> Meyer >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:31 PM >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >> >> Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I use it all the time to add >> notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I keep all my sources as >> notes. >> >> Miles Meyer >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. <angelchatter@shaw.ca> wrote: >>> Does anyone know of a program that will transfer notes into new >> FamilySearch without transferring whole file? Thought I heard from >> someone, >> that we could .... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Donna in Canada >>> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:01:25 -0400 > From: Miles Meyer <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <3ae068010906031401q6a9e4607h6affb31d23804724@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The question was how do you add notes from your file without adding > the whole gedcom. The easiest way is to sync the files with AQ or > FamilyInsight. > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jorge Todeschini > <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Why add a GEDCOM with individuals already on nFS anyway? >> >> In any case, a GEDCOM can be created without LDS ordinances so the >> overwriting mentioned below does not have to happen. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:39 PM >> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >> >>> You are much better off to not use a gedcom, particularly if you >>> Have used temple ready and have the SUB in the ordinance dates as >>> Nfs interprets them as COMPLETED and overwrites the actual dates or >>> In progress statement, depending on how you combine the individuals. >>> I use it only to transfer small groups into nfs on which I am certain >>> There are no submitted nor ordinance dates in my gedcom. >>> >>> Steve Kelsey >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles >>> Meyer >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:31 PM >>> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >>> >>> Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I use it all the time to add >>> notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I keep all my sources as >>> notes. >>> >>> Miles Meyer >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. <angelchatter@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>> Does anyone know of a program that will transfer notes into new >>> FamilySearch without transferring whole file? ?Thought I heard from >>> someone, >>> that we could .... >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Donna in Canada >>>> >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:02:52 -0600 > From: "Shanna Jones" <shannasjones@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU135-DS761356A50F2C3CEC66801D04A0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > FamilyInsight from OhanaSoftware.com transfers the notes nicely, one at a > time, as you synchronize with NFS. > Shanna Jones > St. George > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna B. > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:50 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > > Does anyone know of a program that will transfer notes into new > FamilySearch > without transferring whole file? Thought I heard from someone, that we > could .... > > Thanks > > Donna in Canada > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:11:26 -0300 > From: "Jorge Todeschini" <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY141-DS5AFDCF101CD2B397A59C6B64A0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Clearly, then, adding a GEDCOM and thus introducing duplicates only for > the > sake of adding sources and notes is not the best thing to do. > > Right? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Miles Meyer" <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:01 PM > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > >> The question was how do you add notes from your file without adding >> the whole gedcom. The easiest way is to sync the files with AQ or >> FamilyInsight. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jorge Todeschini >> <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> Why add a GEDCOM with individuals already on nFS anyway? >>> >>> In any case, a GEDCOM can be created without LDS ordinances so the >>> overwriting mentioned below does not have to happen. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:39 PM >>> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >>> >>>> You are much better off to not use a gedcom, particularly if you >>>> Have used temple ready and have the SUB in the ordinance dates as >>>> Nfs interprets them as COMPLETED and overwrites the actual dates or >>>> In progress statement, depending on how you combine the individuals. >>>> I use it only to transfer small groups into nfs on which I am certain >>>> There are no submitted nor ordinance dates in my gedcom. >>>> >>>> Steve Kelsey >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles >>>> Meyer >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:31 PM >>>> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >>>> >>>> Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I use it all the time to add >>>> notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I keep all my sources as >>>> notes. >>>> >>>> Miles Meyer >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. <angelchatter@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>> Does anyone know of a program that will transfer notes into new >>>> FamilySearch without transferring whole file? Thought I heard from >>>> someone, >>>> that we could .... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Donna in Canada >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:21:42 -0400 (EDT) > From: dsam52@sampubco.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <891b69443f4036aa0fc176728047059b.squirrel@webmail.sampubco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > And to complicate it, the months are abbreviated in various programs and > transferrable to nFS, meaning you would have to go back into nFS just to > clean it up. > > I put in a clear request to Ancestral Quest to include the provision to > DE-abbreviate the months. Otherwise, I would have to use text editor to > open the gedcom and hunt down every bloody month and de-abbreviate them. > > And no guarantee nFS will recognize GENT as a surname. It changed it to a > suffix after a small gedcom. Learned something along the way the drawbacks > of gedcoms converted to nFS. > > David Samuelsen > > >> Clearly, then, adding a GEDCOM and thus introducing duplicates only for >> the >> sake of adding sources and notes is not the best thing to do. >> >> Right? >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Miles Meyer" <milesmeyer@gmail.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:01 PM >> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >> >>> The question was how do you add notes from your file without adding >>> the whole gedcom. The easiest way is to sync the files with AQ or >>> FamilyInsight. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jorge Todeschini >>> <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> Why add a GEDCOM with individuals already on nFS anyway? >>>> >>>> In any case, a GEDCOM can be created without LDS ordinances so the >>>> overwriting mentioned below does not have to happen. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:39 PM >>>> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >>>> >>>>> You are much better off to not use a gedcom, particularly if you >>>>> Have used temple ready and have the SUB in the ordinance dates as >>>>> Nfs interprets them as COMPLETED and overwrites the actual dates or >>>>> In progress statement, depending on how you combine the individuals. >>>>> I use it only to transfer small groups into nfs on which I am certain >>>>> There are no submitted nor ordinance dates in my gedcom. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Kelsey >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>>> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles >>>>> Meyer >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:31 PM >>>>> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom >>>>> >>>>> Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I use it all the time to add >>>>> notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I keep all my sources as >>>>> notes. >>>>> >>>>> Miles Meyer >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. <angelchatter@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>>> Does anyone know of a program that will transfer notes into new >>>>> FamilySearch without transferring whole file? Thought I heard from >>>>> someone, >>>>> that we could .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Donna in Canada >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 245 > *************************************************** >
Bring the kids to the netherlands, our ward has a youth baptism every month (on Thursday) and most of them bring their own names, you can do 5 temple names but 15-20 own names, same goes for confirmation. We have some new converts and the first 2 times they did temple names and now they are bringing their own, they love fam. Hist. and doing baptisms (they are adults)as soon as new adults are being baptized into the Church they (missionaries or bishop) introduce them to me properly as the consultant and from there on I work with them they love doing the work and I love their enthousiasm! They can't wait to be endowed they feel the spirit very strong and testify that every 1st Sunday! The problem in our temple is that many who have been called as worker do not follow their commitment! I've enjoyed and learned a lot from this conversation. Just my 2 cents Alie from the Netherlands -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lds-ward-consultant-request@rootsweb.com Sent: donderdag 4 juni 2009 3:48 To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 246 Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Youth temple work (Jill N. Crandell) 2. Re: Youth temple work (RAY FRIESS) 3. Re: Youth temple work (JCBrooks@aol.com) 4. Re: Youth temple work (JCBrooks@aol.com) 5. Re: Youth temple work (RAY FRIESS) 6. Re: Youth temple work (Sahara346@aol.com) 7. Re: Youth temple work (Jill N. Crandell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:30:32 -0600 From: "Jill N. Crandell" <jncrandell@broadweave.net> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <FA90DB5490CE40FA9A5FDD6FE7557A0A@JILLS0033000064> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Michele wrote: "It seems to me that some areas suffer who are not yet on NFS. When your temple is on NFS, the REGULAR stake assignments have adequate names to pull from as the temple downloads the expected need." The reality is that all temples are different, which is partly what I have been trying to communicate in support of David's request for temple cards for a youth temple trip. I live in Provo, and you have to realize that not only do we have a large number of youth growing up here who want to attend the temple, but we also have literally thousands (tens of thousands?) of single BYU and Utah Valley University students who are taught to attend the temple regularly. Until they are endowed, they are going to the baptistry. This is not an nFS issue, and I don't believe nFS will solve the problem. It seems to me that the Provo Temple downloads baptisms based on the number of endowments that can be done, and that is far lower than the number of baptisms that we have a demand for. A number of years ago the missionaries at the MTC were told that they could no longer perform baptisms, in order to save the baptistry names for those who are still unendowed. The baptisms were moving so rapidly that the names were sitting for years before the endowments could be performed. It's just the nature of the demographics in our temple district. The baptistry is now open fewer hours than the rest of the temple, and our regular stake assignments aren't even close to "enough" for our kids to attend the temple. Our assignment is for 10 kids, once a year. Yes, there are five names per proxy each year, but we have many more kids than this who want to attend the temple, and they want to go more regularly than once a year. They definitely want to go more than once in all of their six Mutual years. The youth leaders are trying to meet that need and encourage this positive desire, but it is very difficult to produce the number of names needed. If a group of kids wants to attend the temple outside of their regular assignment, they have to bring the cards. That's the rule. I was interested in the comment that it's hard to get adults to go to the baptistry. Based on the problem we have, adults feel guilty if they go to the baptistry! We feel like we need to give our kids that experience rather than being "selfish" and wanting to do it ourselves. I joined into this conversation, because I think we have a potential to help each other. If you or your ward members are having trouble getting baptisms done, or if you are sending them to the temple file rather than do them yourselves, please consider sending them to someone in Utah to share with their local youth. Personally, I would love to send my kids and their friends to the temple each week throughout the summer. They could help anyone who would like to give and receive that service. I also agree that we are not doing work for names but for people, but changing the word "names" to "people who need their ordinances performed" or something like that to avoid confusion with proxies and other "people" I'm referring to, I find it easier to say "names." :-) Jill Crandell ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:01:40 -0600 From: RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr@msn.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work To: lds-ward-consultant <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY139-W2692C41EEC683D8A93DC35CA4A0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" At the Salt Lake Temple, those who are baptized for the dead are usually limited to five or six names per person. That was instituted a long time ago, partly because, as I was told, the number of baptisms done were far outnumbering the number of endowments being done. So they cut back on the number of baptisms per person to try and get things evened out a bit, which they never have succeeded in doing. A lot of adults do feel guilty because they feel they are taking away from the youth if the adults do any baptisms, but I try to educate them that that is NOT the case. When an adult does the baptising, he can always be baptised himself by the next adult coming into the font to baptize. And the women usually have no more of a reason than they dont want to get their hair wet. To me, that's just a case of not understanding or having a testimony of the work. I can sympathize with you in the Provo area having a lot of unendowed youth and young adults for baptisms. While we dont have that problem in our stake to the same extent, I frequently get requests from the youth leaders in my own ward as well as in OTHER wards in the stake for family names. That's because the word has gotten out that my parents were the only ones in my line to joing the church. They are now on the other side of the veil, and since I took over researching my lines, I have found over 3 thousand ancestors that I have qualified for temple ordinances. So, knowing that, I often get calls asking for family names when the temple requires family names for certain sessions our youth go on for baptisms. For a long time I was supplying names, because there is no way I can do all this work myself. However, recently I started politely declining because I thought that the temple requiring family names MIGHT inspire more members in the stake to get going on their own research instead of easily relying on me for family names. It remains to be seen whether I am right or not. Personally, I love not only DOING the baptising, but also being baptised myself, especially if it is for my own ancestors. Before the 5 name limit was instituted and I was a veil worker in the Salt Lake Temple, I would often fill time by baptizing. On some occasions I would be in the font for over an hour baptising those who came and would officiate for a couple hundred names before getting out of the font. If adults are educated AND they are helped to get the Spirit of Elijah, they will realize that they can and should be baptized and they will WANT to as well. But, as long as we are at only about 5 percent of church members who even do ANY family history work, that isnt going to change much. > From: jncrandell@broadweave.net > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:30:32 -0600 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work > > Michele wrote: > "It seems to me that some areas suffer who are not yet on NFS. When your > temple is on NFS, the REGULAR stake assignments have adequate names to pull > from as the temple downloads the expected need." > > The reality is that all temples are different, which is partly what I have > been trying to communicate in support of David's request for temple cards > for a youth temple trip. I live in Provo, and you have to realize that not > only do we have a large number of youth growing up here who want to attend > the temple, but we also have literally thousands (tens of thousands?) of > single BYU and Utah Valley University students who are taught to attend the > temple regularly. Until they are endowed, they are going to the baptistry. > This is not an nFS issue, and I don't believe nFS will solve the problem. It > seems to me that the Provo Temple downloads baptisms based on the number of > endowments that can be done, and that is far lower than the number of > baptisms that we have a demand for. > > A number of years ago the missionaries at the MTC were told that they could > no longer perform baptisms, in order to save the baptistry names for those > who are still unendowed. The baptisms were moving so rapidly that the names > were sitting for years before the endowments could be performed. It's just > the nature of the demographics in our temple district. The baptistry is now > open fewer hours than the rest of the temple, and our regular stake > assignments aren't even close to "enough" for our kids to attend the temple. > Our assignment is for 10 kids, once a year. Yes, there are five names per > proxy each year, but we have many more kids than this who want to attend the > temple, and they want to go more regularly than once a year. They definitely > want to go more than once in all of their six Mutual years. The youth > leaders are trying to meet that need and encourage this positive desire, but > it is very difficult to produce the number of names needed. If a group of > kids wants to attend the temple outside of their regular assignment, they > have to bring the cards. That's the rule. > > I was interested in the comment that it's hard to get adults to go to the > baptistry. Based on the problem we have, adults feel guilty if they go to > the baptistry! We feel like we need to give our kids that experience rather > than being "selfish" and wanting to do it ourselves. I joined into this > conversation, because I think we have a potential to help each other. If you > or your ward members are having trouble getting baptisms done, or if you are > sending them to the temple file rather than do them yourselves, please > consider sending them to someone in Utah to share with their local youth. > Personally, I would love to send my kids and their friends to the temple > each week throughout the summer. They could help anyone who would like to > give and receive that service. > > I also agree that we are not doing work for names but for people, but > changing the word "names" to "people who need their ordinances performed" or > something like that to avoid confusion with proxies and other "people" I'm > referring to, I find it easier to say "names." :-) > > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:14:11 EDT From: JCBrooks@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d69.42fa63cb.375879e3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Jill I think this percentage of unendowed v. endowed is the same all over the church. (Remember BYU/UVSU also have a ton of returned missionaries.) What compounds it is every youth does 15 names in a time period generally equal to one endowment. So one youth baptism assignment per day with 20 youth (generous for some wards) participating would give 300 names ready for initiatory and endowment. I'm sure the Provo Temple easily does more than 300 endowments in a day. Even our small temple probably averages 250-300 (9 sessions times 53 seat max..and midday not full to capacity). So if the temple can only baptize 300 and the patrons can do multiples of that in initiatory and endowments, then NFS drawdowns would be a big help both ways in those temples. Am I missing something? Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 3:31:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: It seems to me that the Provo Temple downloads baptisms based on the number of endowments that can be done, and that is far lower than the number of baptisms that we have a demand for. **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:15:33 EDT From: JCBrooks@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <be6.4ded70ea.37587a35@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I read this and that comment by Jill after I posted. Wow. Our temple does about 15 names per youth. And our wards get 2-3 assignments a year. Bring your kids to California!! :-) Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 4:02:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rayfrijr@msn.com writes: At the Salt Lake Temple, those who are baptized for the dead are usually limited to five or six names per person. **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:29:22 -0600 From: RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr@msn.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work To: lds-ward-consultant <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY139-W61B917919F6775C14B72CCA4B0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Not to take away from or denigrate any temple district, but you may be allowed more in your temple district because the number of endowments being done are not lagging behind the number of baptisms. Remember, the membership in Utah and Salt Lake City is much more heavily populated by members than other areas of the country, so other temples may be more closely matched on the number of endowments and baptisms being done. Here, for some reason, the baptisms are done more often and by more members ... especially the youth ... then endowments being done by the adults. It's strange ... but appears to be true, even though we are getting two new temples here in the valley. > From: JCBrooks@aol.com > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:15:33 -0400 > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work > > I read this and that comment by Jill after I posted. Wow. Our temple > does about 15 names per youth. And our wards get 2-3 assignments a year. > > Bring your kids to California!! :-) > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/3/2009 4:02:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > rayfrijr@msn.com writes: > > At the Salt Lake Temple, those who are baptized for the dead are usually > limited to five or six names per person. > > **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d > oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:40:13 EDT From: Sahara346@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d06.5615fb8e.37587ffd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Our kids get about three or four sessions a year for baptisms here in Nebraska too, and we're try to get our new members in at the same time so that they can experience the Temple as well. Our ward has considerably fewer youth than most wards, but there's about the same number of Temple trips scheduled for all the wards in the area. Karen In a message dated 6/3/2009 8:21:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: I read this and that comment by Jill after I posted. Wow. Our temple does about 15 names per youth. And our wards get 2-3 assignments a year. Bring your kids to California!! :-) Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 4:02:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rayfrijr@msn.com writes: At the Salt Lake Temple, those who are baptized for the dead are usually limited to five or six names per person. **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:48:07 -0600 From: "Jill N. Crandell" <jncrandell@broadweave.net> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8009F1F118C64CF5ACB8BC6364A22D7B@JILLS0033000064> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Michele wrote: So one youth baptism assignment per day with 20 youth (generous for some wards) participating would give 300 names ready for initiatory and endowment. I'm sure the Provo Temple easily does more than 300 endowments in a day. Even our small temple probably averages 250-300. The assignments are different from what you are thinking. Absolutely, the Provo Temple does more than 300 endowments a day. However, you are assuming one youth baptism assignment per day. When our 10 kids arrive to do their 50 names (they only get 5 per person), there is a group in the font area and one in the chapel area waiting. By the time they leave, there is another group in the chapel behind them and another arriving at the recommend desk. There are multiple group assignments every day, in addition to walk-ins for family file. I don't know at this point if Provo does more baptisms than endowments each day. I suspect it is more in balance because of the rules that are in place, but the font is open an average of about 13 hours per day. That's a lot of baptisms! Jill Crandell ------------------------------ To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 246 ***************************************************
I reported the problem I have been having, i.e. >From any temple screen, I cannot clear ANY names for temple work with nfs. When I click on reserve names or let someone else do names a message comes up Which says; "Someone else is editing this individual, Please try again later." It does this on ANY person and it doesn't matter whether it is to reserve or let someone Else do it. The engineer at support said that this is a "known problem" and they are working on it. Currently, I cannot submit ANY names through nfs. I report this so that in case someone else has this problem-please report it so that They can document as many cases of this as possible. This is critical since it stops me >From submitting any names at all. Steve Kelsey
I transferred some notes from NFS to my PAF file yesterday by copying and pasting. If the tool bar showing edit does not show highlite the notes and use the hot key CTRL C to copy and then paste in PAF. When NFS came out I used the Copy and Paste sequence to put somenotes in NFS. --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Jorge Todeschini <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: > From: Jorge Todeschini <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 9:11 PM > Clearly, then, adding a GEDCOM and > thus introducing duplicates only for the > sake of adding sources and notes is not the best thing to > do. > > Right? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Miles Meyer" <milesmeyer@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:01 PM > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources into nFS > as gedcom > > > The question was how do you add notes from your file > without adding > > the whole gedcom. The easiest way is to sync the files > with AQ or > > FamilyInsight. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jorge Todeschini > > <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Why add a GEDCOM with individuals already on nFS > anyway? > >> > >> In any case, a GEDCOM can be created without LDS > ordinances so the > >> overwriting mentioned below does not have to > happen. > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:39 PM > >> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring notes/sources > into nFS as gedcom > >> > >>> You are much better off to not use a gedcom, > particularly if you > >>> Have used temple ready and have the SUB in the > ordinance dates as > >>> Nfs interprets them as COMPLETED and > overwrites the actual dates or > >>> In progress statement, depending on how you > combine the individuals. > >>> I use it only to transfer small groups into > nfs on which I am certain > >>> There are no submitted nor ordinance dates in > my gedcom. > >>> > >>> Steve Kelsey > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > >>> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Miles > >>> Meyer > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:31 PM > >>> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] transferring > notes/sources into nFS as gedcom > >>> > >>> Ancestral Quest transfers the notes well. I > use it all the time to add > >>> notes. I haven't tried to do sources since I > keep all my sources as > >>> notes. > >>> > >>> Miles Meyer > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Donna B. > <angelchatter@shaw.ca> > wrote: > >>>> Does anyone know of a program that will > transfer notes into new > >>> FamilySearch without transferring whole > file? Thought I heard from > >>> someone, > >>> that we could .... > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> Donna in Canada > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > >>> > >> > >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > >> > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or > UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE > to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
Last Saturday, my husband and I were invited to attend the own endowment session of one of his priests, now leaving for a mission to the Philippines. I realized that this young man wasn't going to have any family marriages before he left for the MTC and would not have an opportunity to participate in sealings (marriage or children to parents). Full-time missionaries do not participate in prayer circle or sealings or any paired off activities. We made a point to invite him and his mother tomorrow when we are temple workers and to participate in our regular 12 noon sealing session which is generally made up of temple workers. This way he will get to hear those wonderful blessings before he has to teach them!! Those of you in a position to do so, might want to assist other young men and women in your wards to have that experience as well if possible. Michele **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
Winter Quarters has one baptismal session each evening, and potentially four on Saturday. They don't always do all the sessions scheduled. I occasionally give the Temple my baptisms if we don't have a ward baptismal trip scheduled within a few weeks, and they're done by the time I get back the next week for my Saturday evening shift. I have enjoyed helping with baptisms, but know that there are so many people that can't do anything else, that I'm usually willing to forgo that so they can also have a Temple experience. Our next baptismal trip is the same day of my last Family History Class at the Trail Center, so I won't be able to go, unless I drop by to give them my names before going to set up for the class. (They're just across the street from each other, so that is doable.) Baptisms is a wonderful way for someone who is coming back to activity to ease towards more serious Temple attendance. They get to sample the Spirit that is there, without having to make the more serious covenants made upstairs. It's a preparation time for them. The Brother that was baptized last week is being encouraged to come for the ward baptismal trip this month, and we're going to try to get some of his family done at that time for him. Karen In a message dated 6/3/2009 9:07:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Yes...you do have more opportunities for group baptisms. Currently we schedule one per day (other than family file or stake temple days). I wish we could have more. I find it hard to get my ward members a time to go. Many would like to go in the evenings, but those times are blocked off for ward/stake assignments. Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 6:48:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: The assignments are different from what you are thinking. Absolutely, the Provo Temple does more than 300 endowments a day. However, you are assuming one youth baptism assignment per day. When our 10 kids arrive to do their 50 names (they only get 5 per person), there is a group in the font area and one in the chapel area waiting. By the time they leave, there is another group in the chapel behind them and another arriving at the recommend desk. There are multiple group assignments every day, in addition to walk-ins for family file. I don't know at this point if Provo does more baptisms than endowments each day. I suspect it is more in balance because of the rules that are in place, but the font is open an average of about 13 hours per day. That's a lot of baptisms! **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
Yes...you do have more opportunities for group baptisms. Currently we schedule one per day (other than family file or stake temple days). I wish we could have more. I find it hard to get my ward members a time to go. Many would like to go in the evenings, but those times are blocked off for ward/stake assignments. Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 6:48:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: The assignments are different from what you are thinking. Absolutely, the Provo Temple does more than 300 endowments a day. However, you are assuming one youth baptism assignment per day. When our 10 kids arrive to do their 50 names (they only get 5 per person), there is a group in the font area and one in the chapel area waiting. By the time they leave, there is another group in the chapel behind them and another arriving at the recommend desk. There are multiple group assignments every day, in addition to walk-ins for family file. I don't know at this point if Provo does more baptisms than endowments each day. I suspect it is more in balance because of the rules that are in place, but the font is open an average of about 13 hours per day. That's a lot of baptisms! **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
It may be a function of the expectation of completing 200-300 baptisms per day. They divide that between whatever the number of youth who show up. So if we have smaller crowds, they get to do more. Things may change for your temples once you go on NFS. Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 6:29:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rayfrijr@msn.com writes: Not to take away from or denigrate any temple district, but you may be allowed more in your temple district because the number of endowments being done are not lagging behind the number of baptisms. **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
Our kids get about three or four sessions a year for baptisms here in Nebraska too, and we're try to get our new members in at the same time so that they can experience the Temple as well. Our ward has considerably fewer youth than most wards, but there's about the same number of Temple trips scheduled for all the wards in the area. Karen In a message dated 6/3/2009 8:21:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: I read this and that comment by Jill after I posted. Wow. Our temple does about 15 names per youth. And our wards get 2-3 assignments a year. Bring your kids to California!! :-) Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 4:02:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rayfrijr@msn.com writes: At the Salt Lake Temple, those who are baptized for the dead are usually limited to five or six names per person. **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
I read this and that comment by Jill after I posted. Wow. Our temple does about 15 names per youth. And our wards get 2-3 assignments a year. Bring your kids to California!! :-) Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 4:02:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rayfrijr@msn.com writes: At the Salt Lake Temple, those who are baptized for the dead are usually limited to five or six names per person. **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
Jill I think this percentage of unendowed v. endowed is the same all over the church. (Remember BYU/UVSU also have a ton of returned missionaries.) What compounds it is every youth does 15 names in a time period generally equal to one endowment. So one youth baptism assignment per day with 20 youth (generous for some wards) participating would give 300 names ready for initiatory and endowment. I'm sure the Provo Temple easily does more than 300 endowments in a day. Even our small temple probably averages 250-300 (9 sessions times 53 seat max..and midday not full to capacity). So if the temple can only baptize 300 and the patrons can do multiples of that in initiatory and endowments, then NFS drawdowns would be a big help both ways in those temples. Am I missing something? Michele In a message dated 6/3/2009 3:31:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: It seems to me that the Provo Temple downloads baptisms based on the number of endowments that can be done, and that is far lower than the number of baptisms that we have a demand for. **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
Our ward (Salt Lake Temple district) youth group goes four times per year. Once every three months. It's been that way for the last 10 years or so... > From: jncrandell@broadweave.net > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:15:47 -0600 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Youth temple work > > Michele wrote: > Yes...you do have more opportunities for group baptisms. > > We have more groups doing baptisms, but each group only gets one turn per > year. When that group can only be 10 kids and we have 60 kids in the ward, > that shows you why each individual person has fewer opportunities to > participate. I don't know how many UVU wards there are, but there are well > over 200 BYU wards in addition to our local wards. That's why we have fewer > assignments per year. It's the logistics of giving every ward an > opportunity. > > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Michele wrote: Yes...you do have more opportunities for group baptisms. We have more groups doing baptisms, but each group only gets one turn per year. When that group can only be 10 kids and we have 60 kids in the ward, that shows you why each individual person has fewer opportunities to participate. I don't know how many UVU wards there are, but there are well over 200 BYU wards in addition to our local wards. That's why we have fewer assignments per year. It's the logistics of giving every ward an opportunity. Jill Crandell