Karen wrote: Has anyone with Scandinavian descent figured out what we can do with duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches that show up to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates or not? Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were intended to be "mine" or somebody else's match. Karen, As mentioned by Jorge, the first thing would be to contact the submitter and see if you can determine from their records if they are talking about the same person. Frequently, the vague/incomplete information is coming from a temple submission. If that is the case, I would find the entry in the IGI and see if it was patron submitted or if there is a microfilmed record it is coming from. If it is a record source, go to the film and determine like you would in research, if it is the same person. If it is coming from an old temple recorder's book, I would recommend having someone take a look at that record for you. Frequently, there is a proxy name with their relationship to the person for whom they are doing the work. That would also let you know more about the identity of the person. I have merged some identities that nobody would merge, except that I have seen the recorder's book, and the proxy and relationship information that was not extracted into the IGI makes it clear who the person was. Unfortunately, none of these solutions is easy. Cleaning up nFS is going to take some time and effort. I wish for us all . . . great patience! :-) Enjoy your Sabbath, Jill Crandell

One way is to contact the person who entered the information... or hope that they will soon join nFS and claim their submissions. By the way, this is not a Scandinavian problem. Whenever information is little, the doubt is great, no matter what language or culture. From: Sahara346@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:37 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... Has anyone with Scandinvavian descent figured out what we can do with duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches that show up to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates or not? Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were intended to be "mine" or somebody else's match. Too many Ols Olesson's I guess with no dates or places attached, and I am sure the problem is very similar in Denmark and Norway. And as a convert, I have to go quite a way back to find a common ancestor with someone else who's in the Church on any of my lines. Karen In a message dated 6/14/2009 11:30:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Just remind all those cousins that they can "have it your way." Combine and then just show a certain version every time they open the family. The other thing I can't seem to get people to understand is that every green arrow is NOT to be clicked and printed for temple work...that just means MORE duplications. It should come to mean there are possible duplicates....especially in those pioneer lines. They must combine!!! Michele In a message dated 6/14/2009 3:55:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hwhitcomb@gmail.com writes: As Utah rolls out.. we will see more squabbling between cousins and disputing etc. Disputing information on nFS makes a real mess. **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F ) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F ) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone with Scandinvavian descent figured out what we can do with duplicate names when there isn't enough information in the matches that show up to have a realistic clue as to whether they really ARE duplicates or not? Some have so little information, it's hard to know if they were intended to be "mine" or somebody else's match. Too many Ols Olesson's I guess with no dates or places attached, and I am sure the problem is very similar in Denmark and Norway. And as a convert, I have to go quite a way back to find a common ancestor with someone else who's in the Church on any of my lines. Karen In a message dated 6/14/2009 11:30:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Just remind all those cousins that they can "have it your way." Combine and then just show a certain version every time they open the family. The other thing I can't seem to get people to understand is that every green arrow is NOT to be clicked and printed for temple work...that just means MORE duplications. It should come to mean there are possible duplicates....especially in those pioneer lines. They must combine!!! Michele In a message dated 6/14/2009 3:55:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hwhitcomb@gmail.com writes: As Utah rolls out.. we will see more squabbling between cousins and disputing etc. Disputing information on nFS makes a real mess. **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F ) Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F )

That's comforting. Because every once in a while my PAF file comes up "read only" and I have to go in through properties and fix it. Michele In a message dated 6/14/2009 7:42:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: Michele wrote: What I wonder is ...how in the world could I have submitted a "read-only" record??? Michele, I don't believe the record "you" submitted is the one that is read-only. When I get the read-only message, it says that "one" of the records is read-only and it doesn't say which one. In my resolved cases, the read-only records were duplicate membership records. The current case that has not been resolved for me is my living in-laws, so I can't send you to look at the file. In that case, I hand-entered them, so there was no electronic transfer. I believe the problem is in the membership record that the Church had already tied to my husband's record. That one didn't show up until I had hand-entered their information, because they are living. Now, he has a duplicate set of parents, and they can't be merged because of a read-only file. All of my deceased read-only problems have been resolved through reporting them to Support. Jill Crandell Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F )

Just remind all those cousins that they can "have it your way." Combine and then just show a certain version every time they open the family. The other thing I can't seem to get people to understand is that every green arrow is NOT to be clicked and printed for temple work...that just means MORE duplications. It should come to mean there are possible duplicates....especially in those pioneer lines. They must combine!!! Michele In a message dated 6/14/2009 3:55:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hwhitcomb@gmail.com writes: As Utah rolls out.. we will see more squabbling between cousins and disputing etc. Disputing information on nFS makes a real mess. **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F )

Michele wrote: What I wonder is ...how in the world could I have submitted a "read-only" record??? Michele, I don't believe the record "you" submitted is the one that is read-only. When I get the read-only message, it says that "one" of the records is read-only and it doesn't say which one. In my resolved cases, the read-only records were duplicate membership records. The current case that has not been resolved for me is my living in-laws, so I can't send you to look at the file. In that case, I hand-entered them, so there was no electronic transfer. I believe the problem is in the membership record that the Church had already tied to my husband's record. That one didn't show up until I had hand-entered their information, because they are living. Now, he has a duplicate set of parents, and they can't be merged because of a read-only file. All of my deceased read-only problems have been resolved through reporting them to Support. Jill Crandell

I received the letter June 11. ----- Original Message ----- From: W. David Samuelsen<mailto:dsam52@sampubco.com> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com<mailto:lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... DORIS BATEMAN wrote: > I am in the Ogden temple district, and as a registered FH consultant we just got the letter saying that consultants in our district now have access so we can learn it. My cousin in Bountiful got the same letter. > > Doris Bateman the difference is , when did you get the email letter? Salt Lake Temple District, its June 4th for the consultants. David Samuelsen Salt Lake Temple District Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually it's not a case of adding more powerful computers.. just adding more computers. And yes, my sources tell me there have been a few servers added. However during peak usage the system probably will be slow.. I would hope that folks would encourage the other consultants in the Temple Districts to register and take the online training for nFS. The more that finish the training.. the earlier your Temple or Stake will have nFS... As Utah rolls out.. we will see more squabbling between cousins and disputing etc. Disputing information on nFS makes a real mess. Alan On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:53 PM, <Sahara346@aol.com> wrote: > Have they added more powerful computers yet? Sometimes it is sooooooo > slow now, and Utah isn't even on the system yet. I could knit a sweater > while > I'm waiting for screens to change sometimes, and I'm not much of a > knitter. > > Karen >

Interesting, but I haven't had any other problems with combining or submitted names via GEDCOMS. Musta been a one time thing??? Michele In a message dated 6/13/2009 9:54:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kinman@connect2.com writes: If you created your gedcom on a cd it would be created as read only. Then when you upload that record to new family search that read only status would still be in effect. Glen On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:23 PM, <JCBrooks@aol.com> wrote: > I went to the Help Center (and should have done that first!) Jill is, as > always, right on mark. I sent a message to feedback with the same kinds > of info we are generally asked for in duplicated records. > > What I wonder is ...how in the world could I have submitted a "read-only" > record??? > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/13/2009 9:03:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: > > Michele: > "One of the records is read-only. Read-only records cannot be combined > with other records." > > Yes, I've had the same problem. It seems to be related to a duplicate > membership record, and the only way to fix it is to give the record > numbers > to feedback. I've had some of them fixed, but one of them never was. I > guess > it's time to ask again. > > Good luck, > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit > www.ditech.com Today! > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F > ) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Now is Family History Time. Tommorrow is another Family History Day. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F )

I went to the Help Center (and should have done that first!) Jill is, as always, right on mark. I sent a message to feedback with the same kinds of info we are generally asked for in duplicated records. What I wonder is ...how in the world could I have submitted a "read-only" record??? Michele In a message dated 6/13/2009 9:03:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: Michele: "One of the records is read-only. Read-only records cannot be combined with other records." Yes, I've had the same problem. It seems to be related to a duplicate membership record, and the only way to fix it is to give the record numbers to feedback. I've had some of them fixed, but one of them never was. I guess it's time to ask again. Good luck, Jill Crandell Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit www.ditech.com Today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F )

Have they added more powerful computers yet? Sometimes it is sooooooo slow now, and Utah isn't even on the system yet. I could knit a sweater while I'm waiting for screens to change sometimes, and I'm not much of a knitter. Karen In a message dated 6/13/2009 4:03:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rayfrijr@msn.com writes: I was recently told that the hoped for plan is to have all the remaining Utah and Idaho temples ROLLED OUT by the end of this month or next month at the latest. So, I would expect an accelerated emailing of consultants informing them they can start training. NOW .. if I could just get people in the wards in our stake and our stake moving on getting consultants called. So far, only one consultant in one ward in our stake has been called despite being informed each time a stake in Utah or Idaho is added that it's coming ... coming SOON and FAST to the wards and stakes. Sometimes you can't help but think of the parable of the bridesmaids when it comes to getting the wards and stakes moving on this. > From: jballing@relia.net > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:33:25 -0600 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... > > Sister Scott, > I am an associate director at ORFHC. I received a call from > Brother Russon about an email going out that would alert ALL > registered consultants in the Ogden Temple district that they > could now sign into and begin the training for nFS. > > Personally I have been on the system for some time however I > received that email as well as many members of the staff on > Thursday. I have had others either call or email me that they > were also on the system. > > Janet Ballingham > ORFHC Associate Director > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Nancy Scott > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:08 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... > > What source documents that Utah will be onboard soon? > > Thanks, > > Nancy Scott > Cincinnati, Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Jorge > Todeschini > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 06:10 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... > > I agree. nFS is absolutely the best thing that could have happened > to > involve families who have been in the Church for generations. It > was so > awkward and cumbersome to exchange information before -- export > and import > GEDCOMs, then merge & combine duplicates in your own database and > then > people just got lost -- that if they were really tech-savvy, > otherwise > they'd give up much earlier. Now people can take control and even > do some > research if they feel like something does not look accurate. Good > luck, > Utah, and welcome aboard. > > > From: Tom Kemp > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:55 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... > > > Company's coming - time to clean and straighten up nFS. > Seems like that is the task before us. > > The UT areas will be coming on board soon and before you know it > the world > will be looking in and starting to use nFS. > > For the members of your ward that feel that their "genealogy" is > done - have > them approach this is picking up and making sure that everything > is ship > shape before the guests arrive. > > Once they get to work and start sprucing up the names on their > family tree - > and gaining experience examining the records on their > recent/immediate > relatives - combing and making sure that they are in good > order.... then > they'll be ready to tackle the next generation on back. > > They;'ll feel comfortable combining the "obvious" ones .... and > feel > cautious about combining the names that are less obvious .... > "Mary ... born > 1840 .... 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Here's one I've never seen before. On a submission credited to me on one of my pioneer lines, I cannot combine my great grandmother with her duplicate for this reason: "One of the records is read-only. Read-only records cannot be combined with other records. " Anyone have any ideas about this? How do I fix it?? Michele **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)

If you created your gedcom on a cd it would be created as read only. Then when you upload that record to new family search that read only status would still be in effect. Glen On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:23 PM, <JCBrooks@aol.com> wrote: > I went to the Help Center (and should have done that first!) Jill is, as > always, right on mark. I sent a message to feedback with the same kinds > of info we are generally asked for in duplicated records. > > What I wonder is ...how in the world could I have submitted a "read-only" > record??? > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/13/2009 9:03:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > jncrandell@broadweave.net writes: > > Michele: > "One of the records is read-only. Read-only records cannot be combined > with other records." > > Yes, I've had the same problem. It seems to be related to a duplicate > membership record, and the only way to fix it is to give the record > numbers > to feedback. I've had some of them fixed, but one of them never was. I > guess > it's time to ask again. > > Good luck, > Jill Crandell > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit > www.ditech.com Today! > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F > ) > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Now is Family History Time. Tommorrow is another Family History Day.

Michele: "One of the records is read-only. Read-only records cannot be combined with other records." Yes, I've had the same problem. It seems to be related to a duplicate membership record, and the only way to fix it is to give the record numbers to feedback. I've had some of them fixed, but one of them never was. I guess it's time to ask again. Good luck, Jill Crandell

NO! Salt Lake Temple said yesterday, they do not have the full ability yet. Only FULL-functioning temples have it, meaning Manti, Vernal and Monticello in Utah has the function for now. Jordan River Temple don't have the ability to print FORs yet. David Samuelsen > Does the idea that the UT Temples have "access" to nFS mean that they will > begin immediately pulling down names to use at their Temples from the "nFS > entered" reservoir of names? > > Tom > > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:22 PM, RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr@msn.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> That's just what I was told by one of the temples which has NFS that I >> did >> a session in this week. >> >> While the full roll out may not be finished, the early access to all the >> remaining temple districts is expected to be done >> >> by the end of this month or next month. That way the consultants can >> begin their training. That's not to say the full rollout will be done >> by >> then ... >> >> > From: jncrandell@broadweave.net >> > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:29:35 -0600 >> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... >> > >> > Ray wrote: >> > I was recently told that the hoped for plan is to have all the >> remaining >> > Utah and Idaho temples ROLLED OUT by the end of this month or next >> month >> at >> > the latest. So, I would expect an accelerated emailing of consultants >> > informing them they can start training. >> > >> > That's not what we're hearing in Provo. I hope that's the case, but >> the >> BYU >> > family history classes are gearing up for special arrangements for our >> > students for fall semester. What we have to do is a major process, and >> > nobody is saying that it won't be necessary. There are a number of >> things >> > that we can't do until the roll-out is completed, and we can't do them >> for >> > fall semester. That tells me that the full roll-out is not expected >> until >> > well after September, in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong! >> > >> > Jill Crandell >> > >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Salt Lake temple has not rolled out yet. But stake by stake is being given early access for training consultants. That's different than full roll out. BUT, those stakes and wards that have called and trained consultants are getting the early access to the training. > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:48:51 -0400 > From: dsam52@sampubco.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... > > NO! Salt Lake Temple said yesterday, they do not have the full ability yet. > > Only FULL-functioning temples have it, meaning Manti, Vernal and > Monticello in Utah has the function for now. > > Jordan River Temple don't have the ability to print FORs yet. > > David Samuelsen > > > Does the idea that the UT Temples have "access" to nFS mean that they will > > begin immediately pulling down names to use at their Temples from the "nFS > > entered" reservoir of names? > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:22 PM, RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr@msn.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> That's just what I was told by one of the temples which has NFS that I > >> did > >> a session in this week. > >> > >> While the full roll out may not be finished, the early access to all the > >> remaining temple districts is expected to be done > >> > >> by the end of this month or next month. That way the consultants can > >> begin their training. That's not to say the full rollout will be done > >> by > >> then ... > >> > >> > From: jncrandell@broadweave.net > >> > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > >> > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:29:35 -0600 > >> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... > >> > > >> > Ray wrote: > >> > I was recently told that the hoped for plan is to have all the > >> remaining > >> > Utah and Idaho temples ROLLED OUT by the end of this month or next > >> month > >> at > >> > the latest. So, I would expect an accelerated emailing of consultants > >> > informing them they can start training. > >> > > >> > That's not what we're hearing in Provo. I hope that's the case, but > >> the > >> BYU > >> > family history classes are gearing up for special arrangements for our > >> > students for fall semester. What we have to do is a major process, and > >> > nobody is saying that it won't be necessary. There are a number of > >> things > >> > that we can't do until the roll-out is completed, and we can't do them > >> for > >> > fall semester. That tells me that the full roll-out is not expected > >> until > >> > well after September, in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong! > >> > > >> > Jill Crandell > >> > > >> > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, As far as the ORFHC goes, we are in an instructional mode. There are always those who will go to the last step without understanding how their actions contribute to the duplication that has gone on forever. Those folks will continue to do the things the way they have always done. But many others will be learning and using the instructions and tutorials that have been provided and then working on their own family lines. I am not sure exactly what you are posing or your concern but it is not the general population that has access but the consultants that are very eager to learn so they can provide service to the others in their wards or who come to our FHC. We had a real concern when it was announced that it would be brought up stake by stake because of the wide area that we provide service to. We were concerned that patrons would come to the center at a time when we would not have a staff member able to access nFS. It was a relief when we were given this access so we could all begin to use the new system. Now if they don't bring it to the rest of the area until we have really had a chance to understand some of it I for one would be grateful. Janet -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kemp Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:50 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... Does the idea that the UT Temples have "access" to nFS mean that they will begin immediately pulling down names to use at their Temples from the "nFS entered" reservoir of names? Tom On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:22 PM, RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr@msn.com> wrote: > > > > That's just what I was told by one of the temples which has NFS that I did > a session in this week. > > While the full roll out may not be finished, the early access to all the > remaining temple districts is expected to be done > > by the end of this month or next month. That way the consultants can > begin their training. That's not to say the full rollout will be done by > then ... > > > From: jncrandell@broadweave.net > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:29:35 -0600 > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... > > > > Ray wrote: > > I was recently told that the hoped for plan is to have all the remaining > > Utah and Idaho temples ROLLED OUT by the end of this month or next month > at > > the latest. So, I would expect an accelerated emailing of consultants > > informing them they can start training. > > > > That's not what we're hearing in Provo. I hope that's the case, but the > BYU > > family history classes are gearing up for special arrangements for our > > students for fall semester. What we have to do is a major process, and > > nobody is saying that it won't be necessary. There are a number of things > > that we can't do until the roll-out is completed, and we can't do them > for > > fall semester. That tells me that the full roll-out is not expected until > > well after September, in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong! > > > > Jill Crandell > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

there were updates made this week and indexers were advised to log on through the website the first time after the updates. Try doing this and it should work. You can also contact your local indexing director. From: Peter F. Thorne Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:31 PM To: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] FamilySearch Indexing password problem Hi! I participate in FamilySearch Indexing. Yesterday, I had no problem logging in. Today, I can't. I use the same username/password combination for all church related sites. I can still access all of the other FamilySearch sites. Except indexing! Is there a problem with the system? How do I contact the people in charge to let them know I have a problem? I did send a message through the regular FamilySearch site, but I'm not sure if they are connected to the indexing program. HELP! Pete Thorne Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Guess my ward is lucky! All consultants are already registered LONG TIME AGO. Can't say for the other wards in the stake. David Samuelsen > > > > The word that I got directly from the World Wide Support Missionary > Department leaders (I'm a WWS missionary) when I asked about Salt Lake > Temple District was that stake by stake were being notified. Those that > are getting early access are those stakes and wards who have called > consultants and whose consultants have been trained and certified as > trained. > > Other stakes and wards will have to wait for a later access. So, the > sooner you get consultants called and trained, the earlier you will get > access. > > > > > > >> From: jncrandell@broadweave.net >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:29:22 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Company's Coming ..... >> >> Ray wrote: >> While the full roll out may not be finished, the early access to all the >> remaining temple districts is expected to be done by the end of this >> month >> or next month. That way the consultants can begin their training. That's >> not >> to say the full rollout will be done by then ... >> >> OK, sorry I misunderstood. Yes, the temples have the equipment, but the >> stakes have not all been notified that they can start the process on the >> user end. >> >> Jill Crandell >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Registered consultants in the Mount Timpanogous Temple district received an email for early access on May 22., 2009 Judi Hansen