Part of it takes consistent time, repeating the message, saying it over again, repeating it again. Finding a different way of saying it, repeating it again, and so on. My husband who conducts the music in Sacrament made an interesting observation a few months ago, which I found encouraging. When I first put out our "Roots 'n Branches" ward family history newsletter (comes out on fast Sunday and is usually just a double sided sheet, although I did a four page one after Pres. Hinckley died), he watched a lot of people glance at it then put it aside. He says that now he watches people read it through as they wait for Sacrament to start on Fast Sunday. OK, maybe it doesn't inspire every one of them to rush home after Church and get their family history records out yet, but it took them time to realize they needed to read the newsletter when they got it. Some use the ideas and hints that I put in. I have used quotes from General Authorities, scriptures, analogies to children's stories to make a point, personal experiences, how to use certain types of records for genealogy, testimonies from various ward leaders and other members, etc. The over all theme has been, do it, just step forth in faith and do what needs to be done to accomplish the work. I am seeing more ward members doing something, though it isn't as many as I would like to see. But hey, isn't one more person working on their family and starting to process names for the Temple better than none? SOMEBODY on the other side is going to be grateful, somebody, who I have no legitimate claim to help by personally submitting their name to the Temple and doing the ordinances, is going to be able to get their Temple work done, and that's what I'm after. It's what we're all after, the long run. So keep up the good work, and if it isn't a flood of members rushing to do it...even one more member working on it and a few months later another member new to family history working on it, more will be getting done. Karen In a message dated 6/24/2009 7:04:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nascott@cinci.rr.com writes: I feel as if we as Consultants give a warning voice and set a good example that Heavenly Father will accept our efforts. Even if member's choose not to work on their Family Lines, it is our calling to continue to encourage. I recently came up with a statement that working on Family History is like paying your tithing, it takes Faith not time or money to do it. We all could be doing other things. I guess it takes Faith to continue encourage when we do not see results as Miles mentions below. No doubt Heavenly Father is pleased with those efforts and that seem to be the most important thing. Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles Meyer Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 07:06 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy I use that quote in all my presentations. It gives a perspective to those who claim all their work has been done but I still haven't seen any of them come into the FHC afterward. Miles Meyer On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Jennifer Pierce <jopierce@frontiernet.net>wrote: > I recently used this quote in our bulletin in regards to those who > believe some relative has already done their family: > > "I have heard some members say, "But our family names are all done." It > is all right to say such a thing as long as you realize you are only > joking. Of this, Elder W. Grant Bangerter of the First Quorum of the > Seventy, has said: "Your genealogy has not all been done. My own > grandparents perpformed 'all' the temple work for their deceased > relatives fifty-five years ago. Since that time our family has > discovered sixteen thousand others." (Elder W. Grant Bangerter, General > Conference, April 1982) Later this talk by Elder Bangerter was > mentioned in an article be George Durrant "Genealogy and Temple Work" > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown00000027)

That's sad. They are still a very long way from having all the films up and indexed on line. Karen In a message dated 6/24/2009 1:21:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, alie.vermeer@xs4all.nl writes: Dear friends I am wondering, our building will undergo a major alteration according to my bishop our FHC will after that no longer be in use that is because there is more done from the home and films will no longer be rented etc., does anyone know who's decision this is, can some one shed his/her light on this! Thank you Alie Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown00000027)

Well, it is true that in some time periods, research is much more work than in others. On the other hand, if it means someone doesn't have to languish in Spirit Prison any more, but can progress to more and better things, it is probably worth the work, even if we only find one person. I still haven't figured out how people can find hundreds of names at a time though. I am always adding names, and do a lot of genealogy, but they usually come in a family at a time, (or a part of a family). Karen In a message dated 6/23/2009 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, babybunt@msn.com writes: I have found that they believe that their great aunt mary has done it all or that it's just too much work. Ann > From: jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:13:42 -0300 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > Well, 85% non-LDS means 15% LDS. Outside of Utah, how many communities are 15% LDS? The average for the US is 2% LDS, right? (Six million out of 300 million total population). Clearly, the LDS at this particular FHC are more interested in genealogy than the "average American." Some ground has been covered. The question to ask now might be "how many members within my ward/stake/scope of my calling are not doing their FHC and why not?" > > > > > From: Jean Weber > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:10 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > Thank you Kathy. In our Family History Centre it is about the same with > nonmembers using it much more than members. > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Taylor" <kathycat6@gmail.com> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > > Jean, > > Art Johnson said in a monthly missionary meeting regarding new > > FamilySearch > > that 3% of members were doing family history. Then when nFS came out in > > St > > Louis he said that 10% of that temple district were doing it. > > > > In our family history center, 85% of the patrons were not members of the > > church. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Kathy > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jean Weber <mjquilts@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I am giving a talk on Sunday and would like to know if anyone knows just > >> what percentage of members are doing family history work. I have heard it > >> is > >> about 4%. Does anyone know? I wonder how many nonmembers research their > >> families. > >> > >> If anyone can help thanks. > >> > >> Jean > >> > >> > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > __________ NOD32 3998 (20090409) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http ://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown00000027)

Jorge Todeschini wrote: > > I was baptized in 1999 and went to the temple in 2000. It was an 18-hour bus trip then. About one year later, a temple was dedicated in Porto Alegre, where I lived. I then took "my" first ten "names" to the temple in January of 2001 -- my grandfathers, my late grandmother, a couple of great-grandparents and siblings. Later, I started entering data from a book an uncle of mine had just written so by March I had 100 names. I was at the Stake Center getting some of them TempleReady and a friend asked if I could come up with 100 names a month. I seriously doubted it. Well, from March 2001 to June 2009 it has been 8 years, 4 months, or 100 months, and guess what. Yesterday I entered my 10,000th individual into my PAF file. Of those, about 6,000 are dead, and 1,600+ of those have had ordinances performed for them. > > I never thought I would get 100 names/months, but that has just happened so far. And if I get stuck -- well, you can see how much work I already have in my hands, for me and my children. Do tell! I have German immigrants in my family from Germany to south Brazil area (that covers Porto Alegre, stretching north to Campinas as well as Sao Paulo) I have not located yet. Has list of the names of those who emigrated there. I know I will find hundreds once I find the villages they settled in. David Samuelsen

Dear friends I am wondering, our building will undergo a major alteration according to my bishop our FHC will after that no longer be in use that is because there is more done from the home and films will no longer be rented etc., does anyone know who's decision this is, can some one shed his/her light on this! Thank you Alie

Danish research is made easier by the many tools and that very many Danes speak some English to really excellent English. (All films are with subtitles to the original language - no matter if it is on TV or at the movie theatre - being English, Chinese, French or Vietnamese). This site is only part of a massive site with every thing from maps, pictures to very skilled volunteers - and then a place you can ask for help finding your Danish ancestors: http://www.dis-danmark.dk/forum/read.php?11,273256 The above link is on Arkivalieronline and the use of it - in English. One step back there are links for the same in German, Dutch and I believe Spanish so far. Rootsweb has GREAT tools for doing research in Denmark. Greetings' from a sunny mid-summer day in Denmark Str. Helle Hirschmann

Many members of the Church will never be able to spend much time in the Family History Library (FHL) in Salt Lake City but they can go to their closest Family History Center (FHC) and pursue their elusive ancestors. (Very few of my own temple submissions are the result of research in the FHL but came through the blessings of using the FHC system.) Some priesthood and local members have a misconception that the Internet will (should?) replace the FHC. Our FHC director was concerned about this attitude and asked the responsible leaders at the Temple and Family History Department. They said that FHCs should not be dissolved. Where are people supposed to learn how to do family history if there are no FHCs. Where are people supposed to receive training or take Sunday School classes in family history? It is hard to teach how to use New FamilySearch to the members if such lessons depend on consultants going into one home at a time.  In my view, it is particularly important that Latter-day Saints have an experience about processing and submitting names for temple ordinances. They don't gain that perspective from the general websites (paid or free) because such websites are not promoting the temple work. Without the FHCs, we will just learn to gather "names" and not see the spiritual picture of the whole work. Also, not everyone has access to computers at home or a high speed Internet connection. The New FamilySearch website really needs a high speed Internet connection to work efficiently. Sometimes our home computers "crash" and we lose valuable research time. Also, many times the indexed records that are posted on the Research Search Pilot Site at www.familysearch.org have no images connected to them. There are times we need to see the actual records for the additional information which is there -- names of witnesses, parents, etc. Not every record is being indexed as thoroughly as researchers might hope. For instance, no occupations were recorded in any of the U.S. census records indexed by FamilySearch Indexing. I don't know why. Occupations can often be a critical clue leading to other records or making distinctions between two people with the same name. If the decision was made by local Church leadership, I would hope they would re-examine their decisions. They should be contacting the appropriate leaders in SLC who manage the worldwide Family History Centers. However, the priesthood leaders may not think that the FHC is valuable if the members aren't using it consistently. Members need to utilize the FHC so they can gain a testimony of its importance and also see how it works with redemption of the dead. I believe there were articles addressing the future of the FHCs on New FamilySearch or in Church publications ("The Church News" and the "Ensign"). Anyone remember these articles? Mary Scott Northville Ward Westland Michigan Stake   ________________________________ From: Alida Vermeer <alie.vermeer@xs4all.nl> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:20:21 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] FHC Dear friends I am wondering, our building will undergo a major alteration according to my bishop our FHC will after that no longer be in use that is because there is more done from the home and films will no longer be rented etc., does anyone know who's decision this is, can some one shed his/her light on this!  Thank you Alie

I feel as if we as Consultants give a warning voice and set a good example that Heavenly Father will accept our efforts. Even if member's choose not to work on their Family Lines, it is our calling to continue to encourage. I recently came up with a statement that working on Family History is like paying your tithing, it takes Faith not time or money to do it. We all could be doing other things. I guess it takes Faith to continue encourage when we do not see results as Miles mentions below. No doubt Heavenly Father is pleased with those efforts and that seem to be the most important thing. Nancy Scott Cincinnati, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miles Meyer Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 07:06 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy I use that quote in all my presentations. It gives a perspective to those who claim all their work has been done but I still haven't seen any of them come into the FHC afterward. Miles Meyer On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Jennifer Pierce <jopierce@frontiernet.net>wrote: > I recently used this quote in our bulletin in regards to those who > believe some relative has already done their family: > > "I have heard some members say, "But our family names are all done." It > is all right to say such a thing as long as you realize you are only > joking. Of this, Elder W. Grant Bangerter of the First Quorum of the > Seventy, has said: "Your genealogy has not all been done. My own > grandparents perpformed 'all' the temple work for their deceased > relatives fifty-five years ago. Since that time our family has > discovered sixteen thousand others." (Elder W. Grant Bangerter, General > Conference, April 1982) Later this talk by Elder Bangerter was > mentioned in an article be George Durrant "Genealogy and Temple Work" > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use that quote in all my presentations. It gives a perspective to those who claim all their work has been done but I still haven't seen any of them come into the FHC afterward. Miles Meyer On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Jennifer Pierce <jopierce@frontiernet.net>wrote: > I recently used this quote in our bulletin in regards to those who > believe some relative has already done their family: > > "I have heard some members say, "But our family names are all done." It > is all right to say such a thing as long as you realize you are only > joking. Of this, Elder W. Grant Bangerter of the First Quorum of the > Seventy, has said: "Your genealogy has not all been done. My own > grandparents perpformed 'all' the temple work for their deceased > relatives fifty-five years ago. Since that time our family has > discovered sixteen thousand others." (Elder W. Grant Bangerter, General > Conference, April 1982) Later this talk by Elder Bangerter was > mentioned in an article be George Durrant "Genealogy and Temple Work" > >

Alie, Our Family History Center consolidated with another this year to make ours into a regional employment center. Seems that there is a larger need for the employment center. Salt Lake was the decider of that one. Kathy Portland, Oregon On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Alida Vermeer <alie.vermeer@xs4all.nl>wrote: > Dear friends > > I am wondering, our building will undergo a major alteration according to > my > bishop our FHC will after that no longer be in use that is because there is > more done from the home and films will no longer be rented etc., does > anyone > know who's decision this is, can some one shed his/her light on this! > Thank > you > > Alie > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary, I don't know if this would be helpful. It may be too general, but sometimes I have just gone to Google and put in the state plus archives and then look for databases or and marriages. It hasn't always worked for all states, but I've hit paydirt for a few that I've been searching in. J. ____________________________________________________________ Click to find the latest solutions to enhance your small business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTI97vM4f5iFbBf2uEfrSl1fBoymtkuFIqs7wH0D9P6NZzlWyIlBks/

In Indiana through 1850: http://208.119.72.68/INMarriages1850/ In addition to the marriage listings which index the county courthouse records, the database includes marriages which were noted from the early Quaker monthly meetings in Indiana. These Quaker marriages were listed in the Abstracts of the Records of the Society of Friends in Indiana compiled by Willard Heiss, (Call Number Geneal. 929.102 F911h v. 7). In addition the database includes listings for the St. Francis Xavier parish church in Vincennes, Indiana which date from 1749. also in Indiana 1993-2002 http://208.119.72.68/INMarriages93to02/ A table showing the 92 counties in Indiana, the date of formation, the number of records in the database for that county, non-availability of records due to courthouse fires, and special search instructions for certain county names is also included. --> ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmSYPb5nwHY3UYxjEKoDdgxQdQDnVbu7t9FPtjfcclDjRmX3FmA/

Are there statistics for % of members that: 1. % Registered for nFS? 2. % that have used it after 3 months? 3. % that have used it after 12 months? Once the UT/ID area goes online - that should give an indication of member outside of Asia. That should give you an idea on the current % of members actively doing genealogy research. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Jean Weber <mjquilts@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi > > I am giving a talk on Sunday and would like to know if anyone knows just > what percentage of members are doing family history work. I have heard it is > about 4%. Does anyone know? I wonder how many nonmembers research their > families. > > If anyone can help thanks. > > Jean >

That "aunt mary has done it all and has all the records" is an interesting excuse. Ask them if they would find it acceptable to themselves or if the Lord would find it acceptable if a similar excuse was used .. "My aunt mary has a copy of the Book of Mormon and the other scriptures in her home, so I don't need a copy in my home." > From: babybunt@msn.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:17:30 -0600 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > I have found that they believe that their great aunt mary has done it all or that it's just too much work. > > Ann > > > From: jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:13:42 -0300 > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > > Well, 85% non-LDS means 15% LDS. Outside of Utah, how many communities are 15% LDS? The average for the US is 2% LDS, right? (Six million out of 300 million total population). Clearly, the LDS at this particular FHC are more interested in genealogy than the "average American." Some ground has been covered. The question to ask now might be "how many members within my ward/stake/scope of my calling are not doing their FHC and why not?" > > > > > > > > > > From: Jean Weber > > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:10 PM > > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > > > > Thank you Kathy. In our Family History Centre it is about the same with > > nonmembers using it much more than members. > > Jean > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathy Taylor" <kathycat6@gmail.com> > > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > > > > > Jean, > > > Art Johnson said in a monthly missionary meeting regarding new > > > FamilySearch > > > that 3% of members were doing family history. Then when nFS came out in > > > St > > > Louis he said that 10% of that temple district were doing it. > > > > > > In our family history center, 85% of the patrons were not members of the > > > church. > > > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jean Weber <mjquilts@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> I am giving a talk on Sunday and would like to know if anyone knows just > > >> what percentage of members are doing family history work. I have heard it > > >> is > > >> about 4%. Does anyone know? I wonder how many nonmembers research their > > >> families. > > >> > > >> If anyone can help thanks. > > >> > > >> Jean > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3998 (20090409) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found that they believe that their great aunt mary has done it all or that it's just too much work. Ann > From: jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:13:42 -0300 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > Well, 85% non-LDS means 15% LDS. Outside of Utah, how many communities are 15% LDS? The average for the US is 2% LDS, right? (Six million out of 300 million total population). Clearly, the LDS at this particular FHC are more interested in genealogy than the "average American." Some ground has been covered. The question to ask now might be "how many members within my ward/stake/scope of my calling are not doing their FHC and why not?" > > > > > From: Jean Weber > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:10 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > Thank you Kathy. In our Family History Centre it is about the same with > nonmembers using it much more than members. > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Taylor" <kathycat6@gmail.com> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > > Jean, > > Art Johnson said in a monthly missionary meeting regarding new > > FamilySearch > > that 3% of members were doing family history. Then when nFS came out in > > St > > Louis he said that 10% of that temple district were doing it. > > > > In our family history center, 85% of the patrons were not members of the > > church. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Kathy > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jean Weber <mjquilts@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I am giving a talk on Sunday and would like to know if anyone knows just > >> what percentage of members are doing family history work. I have heard it > >> is > >> about 4%. Does anyone know? I wonder how many nonmembers research their > >> families. > >> > >> If anyone can help thanks. > >> > >> Jean > >> > >> > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > __________ NOD32 3998 (20090409) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found that they believe that their great aunt mary has done it all or that it's just too much work. Ann > From: jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:13:42 -0300 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > Well, 85% non-LDS means 15% LDS. Outside of Utah, how many communities are 15% LDS? The average for the US is 2% LDS, right? (Six million out of 300 million total population). Clearly, the LDS at this particular FHC are more interested in genealogy than the "average American." Some ground has been covered. The question to ask now might be "how many members within my ward/stake/scope of my calling are not doing their FHC and why not?" > > > > > From: Jean Weber > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:10 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > Thank you Kathy. In our Family History Centre it is about the same with > nonmembers using it much more than members. > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Taylor" <kathycat6@gmail.com> > To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > > > > Jean, > > Art Johnson said in a monthly missionary meeting regarding new > > FamilySearch > > that 3% of members were doing family history. Then when nFS came out in > > St > > Louis he said that 10% of that temple district were doing it. > > > > In our family history center, 85% of the patrons were not members of the > > church. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Kathy > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jean Weber <mjquilts@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I am giving a talk on Sunday and would like to know if anyone knows just > >> what percentage of members are doing family history work. I have heard it > >> is > >> about 4%. Does anyone know? I wonder how many nonmembers research their > >> families. > >> > >> If anyone can help thanks. > >> > >> Jean > >> > >> > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > __________ NOD32 3998 (20090409) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, 85% non-LDS means 15% LDS. Outside of Utah, how many communities are 15% LDS? The average for the US is 2% LDS, right? (Six million out of 300 million total population). Clearly, the LDS at this particular FHC are more interested in genealogy than the "average American." Some ground has been covered. The question to ask now might be "how many members within my ward/stake/scope of my calling are not doing their FHC and why not?" From: Jean Weber Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:10 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy Thank you Kathy. In our Family History Centre it is about the same with nonmembers using it much more than members. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Taylor" <kathycat6@gmail.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How many members do genealogy > Jean, > Art Johnson said in a monthly missionary meeting regarding new > FamilySearch > that 3% of members were doing family history. Then when nFS came out in > St > Louis he said that 10% of that temple district were doing it. > > In our family history center, 85% of the patrons were not members of the > church. > > Hope that helps. > > Kathy > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jean Weber <mjquilts@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I am giving a talk on Sunday and would like to know if anyone knows just >> what percentage of members are doing family history work. I have heard it >> is >> about 4%. Does anyone know? I wonder how many nonmembers research their >> families. >> >> If anyone can help thanks. >> >> Jean >> >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 3998 (20090409) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I recently used this quote in our bulletin in regards to those who believe some relative has already done their family: "I have heard some members say, "But our family names are all done." It is all right to say such a thing as long as you realize you are only joking. Of this, Elder W. Grant Bangerter of the First Quorum of the Seventy, has said: "Your genealogy has not all been done. My own grandparents perpformed 'all' the temple work for their deceased relatives fifty-five years ago. Since that time our family has discovered sixteen thousand others." (Elder W. Grant Bangerter, General Conference, April 1982) Later this talk by Elder Bangerter was mentioned in an article be George Durrant "Genealogy and Temple Work"

I agree with Mary. There are great resources on family search help. If you go the Document ID: 101995 at help.familysearch.org you will see how to change an incorrect gender or combine individuals listed with an incorrect gender or listed as unknown: Proof of what the gender should be. This may be a document such as a birth certificate, a marriage license, you personal knowledge, or the knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual. Or it could be proof that there is a dulplicate person (a sibling in most cases) who is clearly the same individual but with the correct gender, such as the duplicate having a spouse and children. A data administrator will review you recommendation and reply to you. Note: for more information on corrcting gender information you have entered see KD284faq0480 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:18:31 -0700 > From: mscscott28@yahoo.com > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] References for un-named children AND un-named wives/mothers > > Yes, there may be two sets of guidelines in process. This issue can cause a lot of situations which may be stressful for all of us. > > As for children who died without given names, New FamilySearch does not add "Miss" or "Mr" to a surname as was done at the temples with TempleReady. (A couple of weeks ago, I proposed that NFS did add "Miss" and "Mr" but discovered that the explanation is on the website for unnamed children. Some of you were kind enough to document where the information was on the website.) > > Bear with me if it seems I digress for a moment. I remember when the Scouting handbook was over 10 years old and really not helpful. We asked regularly when there would be a new Scouting handbook and were told that the Church was creating a general handbook which included all the smaller handbooks. So there would be no new scouting handbook published at that time. > > Many of us involved with scouting waited a long time for the book to come out. We had to use bulletins and all sorts of other information to have the most current resources. We depended on stake leaders (Stake Presidency, Stake Young Men Presidency, Stake Primary Presidency, etc.) to know what was happening. > > People would have to ask the scouting department of the Church a lot of questions because of the conflicts. It was such a relief when the new handbooks all came out under the umbrella of the priesthood manuals. > > Back to family history. > > Since the Church authorizes the New FamilySearch as the acceptable process for clearing temple ordinances, then we need to accept the manuals, overviews, and handbooks on the website. The information can change quickly and be posted on the website. (This is not true of publications of handbooks.) There is an immediacy in the NFS Help Center which some may find interesting and helpful but others will find frustrating. > > Consultants for the most part do not have access to the main priesthood manual for the Temples. We just don't see it -- ever. We would have to ask a recorder or a temple presidency member to look something up for us. (There are a few of you on our consultant email list who are exceptions but you truly are the exceptions.) > > Sometimes information is also interpreted differently by various priesthood leaders. This can also cause confusion. > > Consultants will find it difficult to do their callings if they have to read all the guidelines on New FamilySearch (plus the NFS manual and the Members Guide) and then have to go to the temple presidents or other priesthood leaders for further enlightenment. > > Family History is hard enough without throwing obstacles in the way for every consultant and member. Obstacles hamper the work and dampen the enthusiasm. > > We believe that our Church is based on revelation so policies and guidelines change -- sometimes dramatically and sometimes very quickly. > > This is why I believe we have to follow the guidelines, etc. on the website for New FamilySearch. > > We can't be hanging on to obsolete rules or traditions. If the Church now wants us to use "son" and "daughter" that should be good enough for all of us. > > If necessary, we can take a printout to the temple when we turn in children with "son" and "daughter" in place of their given names. When the temple has a question about our submission, the staff can read our printout and then they can call the Temple Department for clarification. Temple leaders seem to have a fast track to access with the Temple Department. > > I am sorry if I sound passionate but I believe in using the most current information. Surely New FamilySearch's Help Center is the most current resource for family history consultants. > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > P.S. By the way, on the Dutch website, GenLias, unnamed children are marked "NN" for "no name". I prefer son and daughter over being named "NN". > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use and extract for www.freebmd.org.uk this is very useful. www.usgenweb.org. www.genuki.org very useful British site. Other good sites: www.freecen.org.uk (this has many of the English censuses indexed and is free) www.freereg.org.uk this is just starting out and doesn't have to many registers indexed. www.ddd.dda.dk (useful site for Danish census--if You don't read Danish Click on the British flag for English) www.arkivalieronline.dk (this has most of the Danish parish registers for free-- You do have to register and get a password. http://archives.utah.gov/research/guides/index.html This has some Utah deaths and births. www.findagrave.com Useful site for finding burials Another very useful tip: Get a public library card. Most public libraries have Free access to ancestry.com in the library. Also At home access is granted for some items--look at what is Offered. For instance: www.slco.lib.ut.us is the Salt Lake county library site. You can get free access at home to HeritageQuest.com with the US census, the Revolutionary War Data, many books etc. Also Newsbank with access to nationwide obituaries. I would appreciate anybody listing some others they find useful Thank you. Stephen Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Weber Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:01 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Suggestions for marriage websites For England you can try freereg. You can find the url on Cyndi's List. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary S. Scott (Michigan)" <mscscott28@yahoo.com> To: <lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Suggestions for marriage websites > Do any of you have favorite websites which you use for researching > marriages? > > I am working on my newsletter for my ward here in Michigan. It will have a > marriage and sealing theme. > > I thought I would add a column of FREE website links which are excellent > for searching marriages. (My goal is to encourage the ward members to know > how much research they can actually do at home in their fuzzy slippers.) > > For instance, here are some of the websites I have thought of so far. > > > New FamilySearch > http://new.familysearch.org > > Western States Marriages > http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/westernStates/search.cfm > > Marriages in the Netherlands > www.GenLias.nl > > Record Search Pilot at FamilySearch > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start > > Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763–1900 > http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/marriage.html > > > For instance, here are some of the websites I have thought of so far. > > Thanks for your help. I appreciate it very much. > > Mary Scott > Northville Ward > Westland Michigan Stake > > Detroit Michigan Temple District > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message