One thing that I sometimes do is put in my place name and don't select one of their standards. If theirs don't match, they don't get selected. Sometimes mine stick sometimes they don't, but if they don't, I go back and pull it out. If it isn't right, it isn't right. Not all techies are genealogists, more's the pity. Karen On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Steve Kelsey <[email protected]> wrote: > The standardized place names system needs lots and lots of work. I have > suggested a gazeteer for Danish names > which is at http://www.krabsen.dk/stednavnebase/ > but no one has listened as yet. In the Danish standardized place names > there are sometimes 4 choices for exactly the same place, there are 2 > places > with the same name in the same county which are not distiguished by the > herred name. In Copenhagen, it is very difficult for instance to get the > right church of many, many churches which you work very hard to get the > right one and then all you can put in is Copenhagen as standard unless you > really work at trying to find the place name. If Copenhagen for instand it > would be nice to have a complete list of the possible churches pop up so we > could choose the correct one. The system needs a lot of work to improve > these. > > Steve Kelsey > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just one!

Good luck. The system didn't recognize Bracketville, Kinney, Texas. It's the county seat. I wrote TWO YEARS AGO...and the open case is still at "systems engineer." Michele In a message dated 3/11/2012 9:12:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi, I've been going round & round with the Help folks and we don't seem to be communicating. Can anyone tell me how to talk with the folks managing the Standardized Place Names? Issue: Arbie LeRoy Brooks (1889-1951) LHNR-VY5 Born in Big Creek, Monroe, Wisconsin The birth-place shows correctly in details as being in Big Creek, Monroe, Wisconsin (with some minor variations as to be expected with multiple submissions), however, if one looks at the map display for him or his father it shows Arbie's birth is in Big Creek, Monroe, Tennessee, NOT the Wisconsin location. Also if one does a duplicate search, it auto-populates the fields for the search with the (wrong) location in Tennessee. It appears that the Standardized Place Names system is firmly convinced that the ONLY place in the world that can possibly be Big Creek, Monroe County is a place of that name in Tennessee, REGARDLESS of what state is listed in the details. I tried truncating the place in Standard Locations by leaving off Big Creek and stopping at Monroe County, Wisconsin. If that instance is selected for the summary, then it partially solves the problem at the expense of being less precise. At least in the the search for duplicates it has the right state, but the Map pin is still in Tennessee because of the other entries with Big Creek in them. p.s. At Help's suggestion I deleted my previous (correct location) and added a new opinion with the same info. Didn't fix the problem. Any ideas on how to get the complete place name in the system and have it recognized as being in the right state? Or how to discuss the problem with the folks running the Standardized place names? I imagine my situation is not unique and that there are other instances of the same type of thing happenning with other localities. thanks, -- Dan Taysom [email protected] Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The standardized place names system needs lots and lots of work. I have suggested a gazeteer for Danish names which is at http://www.krabsen.dk/stednavnebase/ but no one has listened as yet. In the Danish standardized place names there are sometimes 4 choices for exactly the same place, there are 2 places with the same name in the same county which are not distiguished by the herred name. In Copenhagen, it is very difficult for instance to get the right church of many, many churches which you work very hard to get the right one and then all you can put in is Copenhagen as standard unless you really work at trying to find the place name. If Copenhagen for instand it would be nice to have a complete list of the possible churches pop up so we could choose the correct one. The system needs a lot of work to improve these. Steve Kelsey

Hi, I've been going round & round with the Help folks and we don't seem to be communicating. Can anyone tell me how to talk with the folks managing the Standardized Place Names? Issue: Arbie LeRoy Brooks (1889-1951) LHNR-VY5 Born in Big Creek, Monroe, Wisconsin The birth-place shows correctly in details as being in Big Creek, Monroe, Wisconsin (with some minor variations as to be expected with multiple submissions), however, if one looks at the map display for him or his father it shows Arbie's birth is in Big Creek, Monroe, Tennessee, NOT the Wisconsin location. Also if one does a duplicate search, it auto-populates the fields for the search with the (wrong) location in Tennessee. It appears that the Standardized Place Names system is firmly convinced that the ONLY place in the world that can possibly be Big Creek, Monroe County is a place of that name in Tennessee, REGARDLESS of what state is listed in the details. I tried truncating the place in Standard Locations by leaving off Big Creek and stopping at Monroe County, Wisconsin. If that instance is selected for the summary, then it partially solves the problem at the expense of being less precise. At least in the the search for duplicates it has the right state, but the Map pin is still in Tennessee because of the other entries with Big Creek in them. p.s. At Help's suggestion I deleted my previous (correct location) and added a new opinion with the same info. Didn't fix the problem. Any ideas on how to get the complete place name in the system and have it recognized as being in the right state? Or how to discuss the problem with the folks running the Standardized place names? I imagine my situation is not unique and that there are other instances of the same type of thing happenning with other localities. thanks, -- Dan Taysom [email protected]

and please follow through with completion of the rest of ordinances - endownments and sealings. I see too many nFS entries with only baptisms done and abandoned. I've hagged and hawed with the headquarter staff to get them released to me so I can complete the rest all because somebody abandoned them 10 years ago. David Samuelsen On 3/6/2012 12:39 PM, Gay Davis wrote: > One of the things I have done is to help get one ancestor ready for baptism for each youth when they go to the temple each year to do baptisms. Then I set up a meeting during YW and YM and give a talk to them about temple work and what they are accomplishing when they do the baptisms just before they go. Then I name each young person and the person they are doing the work for in their family and the relationship. The young people love this and it seems to give much more meaning to their baptismal experience and generates interest in family history. Of course, I have a small number of youth in my ward, so this is manageable and I know a long time ahead what date they are going to the temple so I can get names prepared. > > Gay Davis > Silverdale Washington Stake

One of the things I have done is to help get one ancestor ready for baptism for each youth when they go to the temple each year to do baptisms. Then I set up a meeting during YW and YM and give a talk to them about temple work and what they are accomplishing when they do the baptisms just before they go. Then I name each young person and the person they are doing the work for in their family and the relationship. The young people love this and it seems to give much more meaning to their baptismal experience and generates interest in family history. Of course, I have a small number of youth in my ward, so this is manageable and I know a long time ahead what date they are going to the temple so I can get names prepared. Gay Davis Silverdale Washington Stake ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Woodings To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 7:46 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] Thank you for Responses I certainly appreciate the responses from others who are working at bringing in the youth to family history. I realize that the search for ancestors will not interest everyone but I have always been fascinated with my early ancestors and I think that if young people get involved in family history they too will get the urge to do more work. With the additional emphasis on getting the missionaries involved to help interest others in the Gospel, I feel what better time to begin this involvement than as teenagers. Thank you again and let's hear from others on how you are doing it or what your feelings are on this approach. -- Chuck Woodings, CUSP Ward Family History Consultant Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I certainly appreciate the responses from others who are working at bringing in the youth to family history. I realize that the search for ancestors will not interest everyone but I have always been fascinated with my early ancestors and I think that if young people get involved in family history they too will get the urge to do more work. With the additional emphasis on getting the missionaries involved to help interest others in the Gospel, I feel what better time to begin this involvement than as teenagers. Thank you again and let's hear from others on how you are doing it or what your feelings are on this approach. -- Chuck Woodings, CUSP Ward Family History Consultant

We just had our local leader from Scandinavia and Baltic states. He is 34 and his grandma took him to the centre when he was 5. He got an old microcard reader and some outdated cards to play with. He stayed. And now it is his job. :) Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne af Pam Petterborg Ingermanson Sendt: 5. marts 2012 22:49 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Calling youth for FH Consultants When Elder Bednar gave his talk in General Conference--Oct 2011--he talked about the 3 young men teaching the class to their peers. Can't get much more endorsement than that--over the pulpit at General Conference from one of the Twelve!!!! No, he did not officially say-call them as consultants--but consultants are the ones who teach the classes. I would say it is ok. As Area Family History Advisers, we encourage wards and stakes to call young people as consultants. The earlier they get involved the better. On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Chuck Woodings <[email protected]>wrote: > I understand from others I've met at FH Conferences that some wards/stakes > are calling youth to be Family History consultants and I would like to know > what the churches position is on this practice. I feel it would be a very > good experience for Priests preparing for a mission. > Can someone elaborate on this and perhaps if you've done it tell me of your > experience. > Thank you! > > Chuck Woodings, Ward Family History Consultant > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When Elder Bednar gave his talk in General Conference--Oct 2011--he talked about the 3 young men teaching the class to their peers. Can't get much more endorsement than that--over the pulpit at General Conference from one of the Twelve!!!! No, he did not officially say-call them as consultants--but consultants are the ones who teach the classes. I would say it is ok. As Area Family History Advisers, we encourage wards and stakes to call young people as consultants. The earlier they get involved the better. On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Chuck Woodings <[email protected]>wrote: > I understand from others I've met at FH Conferences that some wards/stakes > are calling youth to be Family History consultants and I would like to know > what the churches position is on this practice. I feel it would be a very > good experience for Priests preparing for a mission. > Can someone elaborate on this and perhaps if you've done it tell me of your > experience. > Thank you! > > Chuck Woodings, Ward Family History Consultant > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Perhaps if the "children" gave permission, it would be another thing. She could do what they wanted her to do. Much easier to ask kids. Michele In a message dated 3/5/2012 5:34:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks for all the input. My main concern is not having her sealed to her divorced husband I don't know if she wants that. I just didn't know if she had the right to have his baptism and endowment done. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Scott Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] Divorced Spouse Thinking about it, I feel that Megan is correct that one cannot be sealed to a divorced spouse when you are living. I should have thought more carefully about it before I posted it. Nancy Scott Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

no adjustments. Just follow the handbook. David Samuelsen On 3/5/2012 4:50 AM, Carol Riner Everett wrote: > Maureen Lake, what kind of adjustments has your stake made to include the youth? > > > Families Are Forever > Carol Riner Everett > > > > ________________________________ > From: Maureen Lake<[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Calling youth for FH Consultants > > Our stake president instructed each bishop in our stake to call a youth to serve as a family history consultant. The plan is to call a second one of the opposite gender in about six months. > > I have had a youth serving with me for the las two years. It has been a journey. > > I would think that Elder Bednar's talk last conference would have settled the question. Youth can and should serve in family history callings. We've adjusted our family history program in the stake to include and embrace the ideal. > > Maureen Lake > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 4, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Chuck Woodings<[email protected]> wrote: > >> I understand from others I've met at FH Conferences that some wards/stakes >> are calling youth to be Family History consultants and I would like to know >> what the churches position is on this practice. I feel it would be a very >> good experience for Priests preparing for a mission. >> Can someone elaborate on this and perhaps if you've done it tell me of your >> experience. >> Thank you! >> >> Chuck Woodings, Ward Family History Consultant >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I disagree. There is an adjustment, though there shouldn't be, when youth are called to what is traditionally an adult calling. Two years ago, it took six weeks to get a youth called to the position. The struggle is to adjust the thinking of the members. The handbook lays out policies and procedures, but it doesn't really address people. It sets forth an almost utopian unit, but the personalities get in the way. As an example, our youth family history consultant is a young woman, now 14. She has approached her youth leadership on several occasions about family history initiatives within the Young Men/Young Women. She has been told that "We aren't addressing that now," even when the next lesson has been family history, or the ward theme revolves around it that year. It is precisely that type of attitude that we are fighting. It is simplistic to think that the handbook's existence guarantees that all will run smoothly. Brigham Young said, "Teach them correct principles and they will govern themselves.". The handbook is the lessons... Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:19 AM, W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> wrote: > no adjustments. Just follow the handbook. > > David Samuelsen > > On 3/5/2012 4:50 AM, Carol Riner Everett wrote: >> Maureen Lake, what kind of adjustments has your stake made to include the youth? >> >> >> Families Are Forever >> Carol Riner Everett >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Maureen Lake<[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Calling youth for FH Consultants >> >> Our stake president instructed each bishop in our stake to call a youth to serve as a family history consultant. The plan is to call a second one of the opposite gender in about six months. >> >> I have had a youth serving with me for the las two years. It has been a journey. >> >> I would think that Elder Bednar's talk last conference would have settled the question. Youth can and should serve in family history callings. We've adjusted our family history program in the stake to include and embrace the ideal. >> >> Maureen Lake >> >> Sent from my iPad

Elder Bednar highly recommends it. We had youth serving in our FHC and they are great! Their enthusiasm is contagious! VCazier, So. FL. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck Woodings Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] Calling youth for FH Consultants I understand from others I've met at FH Conferences that some wards/stakes are calling youth to be Family History consultants and I would like to know what the churches position is on this practice. I feel it would be a very good experience for Priests preparing for a mission. Can someone elaborate on this and perhaps if you've done it tell me of your experience. Thank you! Chuck Woodings, Ward Family History Consultant Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4851 - Release Date: 03/04/12

Thanks for all the input. My main concern is not having her sealed to her divorced husband I don't know if she wants that. I just didn't know if she had the right to have his baptism and endowment done. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Scott Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] Divorced Spouse Thinking about it, I feel that Megan is correct that one cannot be sealed to a divorced spouse when you are living. I should have thought more carefully about it before I posted it. Nancy Scott Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Last November our stake called a ward family history consultant to head up teaching the youth. They called a laurel and priest from each ward to be trained by her. They gave them a minimum of training as per Elder Bednar's talk; ie. they brought them to our FHC, showed them the youth videos, and put them on computers in NFS, challenging them to find someone that evening who needed temple work. We are a Utah Stake without many recent convert families. They did not tell them that there were errors in NFS, about looking for duplicates, or that some people who show they need temple work might not need it because there are vast errors in that person's relationships. I personally felt that more training needed to be done at that point. They they sent these youth to their wards to train others of the same age during sunday school time. They are following the "member's guide" manual, and trying very hard, but I was told yesterday the youth are really not engaging with them. That's how its going in my ward. > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 21:02:25 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LDS-WC] Calling youth for FH Consultants > > I understand from others I've met at FH Conferences that some wards/stakes > are calling youth to be Family History consultants and I would like to know > what the churches position is on this practice. I feel it would be a very > good experience for Priests preparing for a mission. > Can someone elaborate on this and perhaps if you've done it tell me of your > experience. > Thank you! > > Chuck Woodings, Ward Family History Consultant > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I hit send instead of cancel... > Carol, > > We are a stake in family history transition. Two years ago, apathy and downright hostility were the responses to any mention of the subject. That is slowly changing. > > Our family history consultants meet together once a month with the High Council rep over family history. This now includes our youth consultants. Additionally we have formed a Youth Family History Council to work toward involving all the youth more. The responsibility of a youth consultant as we have laid them out include acting as a bridge to include the entire ward, down into Primary, in the work. Their focus is on the youth, but they are called and set apart with the same responsibilities and keys that you or I received. The entirety of the program is just coming into its own, the last ward finally having called someone to the position, and we haven't yet held our first youth council meeting, but I have great hopes. One of our stake goals is 70% youth annual recommends and these consultants are a big part of that. I fully expect that they will come up with some pretty amazing goals of their own. Until now, none of our wards had multiple FHCs. The addition of these youth changes that. Each ward is going to have to find a balance. Some do not share responsibility well, so that will be a challenge. And it is a huge leap for many to allow, much less encourage, this kind of responsibility in our youth. Have there been challenges on this road? Certainly. Of eight wards one young man has been called in this first go-round, an inequity that concerns me. Our training session to give them some background on their calling was attended by only half our complement. Our youth are not accustomed to being treated like they have this kind of say. The youth leadership, in my own ward, have trouble distinguishing between the youth and the family history consultant and have been dismissive of her input, a lesson we are putting to good use in the training. Bishops have not caught the vision of this idea, in spite of Elder Bednar's words. In some cases their adult FHCs are not as active as they could be and, in spite of our best efforts, their wards are apathetic to the work. Basically, we are working on changing the face of family history in our little corner of Las Vegas. It's not going to happen overnight, but inexorable us has and will continue to happen. Our next step is limited only by our imaginations. We're slowly changing attitudes, and that's a good thing. Maureen > > > On Mar 5, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Carol Riner Everett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Maureen Lake, what kind of adjustments has your stake made to include the youth? >> >> >> Families Are Forever >> Carol Riner Everett

Carol, We are a stake in family history transition. Two years ago, apathy and downright hostility were the responses to any mention of the subject. That is slowly changing. Our family history consultants meet together once a month with the High Council rep over family history. Th On Mar 5, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Carol Riner Everett <[email protected]> wrote: > Maureen Lake, what kind of adjustments has your stake made to include the youth? > > > Families Are Forever > Carol Riner Everett > > > > ________________________________ > From: Maureen Lake <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Calling youth for FH Consultants > > Our stake president instructed each bishop in our stake to call a youth to serve as a family history consultant. The plan is to call a second one of the opposite gender in about six months. > > I have had a youth serving with me for the las two years. It has been a journey. > > I would think that Elder Bednar's talk last conference would have settled the question. Youth can and should serve in family history callings. We've adjusted our family history program in the stake to include and embrace the ideal. > > Maureen Lake > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 4, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Chuck Woodings <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I understand from others I've met at FH Conferences that some wards/stakes >> are calling youth to be Family History consultants and I would like to know >> what the churches position is on this practice. I feel it would be a very >> good experience for Priests preparing for a mission. >> Can someone elaborate on this and perhaps if you've done it tell me of your >> experience. >> Thank you! >> >> Chuck Woodings, Ward Family History Consultant >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is true, I had to wait for a year after my mother's death to seal her to my dad.  I asked her before she passed away if she wanted to be sealed to him and she said she did, and it was the only way I could be connected to my grandparents who raised me as a young child. Betty Jo Colbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Tippets" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:09:28 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] temple work/permission For a woman to be sealed to more than one man, she must be deceased. Karen On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Harry Laughman <[email protected]> wrote: > I know a sister may be a female may be sealed to  all she has been married > to in this world, providing all have died. Now I have forgotten if she must > be dead. > > Harry L. > > A CONSTITUTIONALIST WITH RADICAL VIEWS > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/4/12, Megan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Megan Smith <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] temple work/permission > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 7:50 PM > > I don't believe that she can be sealed to a deceased spouse that she is > currently divorced from - she would need to have her Bishop check the > Handbook on that one. > > Megan Smith > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Scott > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 4:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] temple work/permission > > Nancy, > > I guess that she is putting the ex-husband who is deceased as a spouse in > nFS?  If so, she should certainly indicate that they are divorced.  She > should be prayerful about exactly what she does other than his ordinances. > If she comes to believe that she should be sealed to him, she would need to > get a living recommend for Sealing to Spouse from the appropriate > Priesthood > which I believe is her Bishop and Stake President.  Being a new member, I > would advise her to fast and pray about this sort of thing to be sure this > is what she should do. > > When I was a new member, I was divorced and dating a someone who was very > kind and a generous person.  He was opposed to the church though.  My > ex-husband was interested in the church and did eventually join but his > repentance was short lived, though we remarried and were sealed in the > temple.  He attended the temple only once and then became inactive and > never > attended again.  I can look back on it and realize that I never actually > got > a confirmation that I should take up the relationship with the ex-husband > who had a history of being unkind and abusive and wish that I had done so. > Perhaps it was still the right thing to do, but not having gotten the > confirmation and then another divorce 20 years later makes one question > whether or not it was. > > Nancy Scott > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy > Gibert > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 05:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LDS-WC] temple work/permission > > Please help me answer a question for a new member.  She wants to do the > temple work of her ex-deceased husband.  She feels very strongly that she > needs to do the work.  She knows she needs permission.  His mother is still > living.  From reading the information below it looks like she can just get > verbal permission.  Is that correct?  When we enter into > newfamilysearch.org > I am helping her add, so do I add him as her spouse but I will need to add > divorce date right?  Where to I indicate that she has permission? > Thanks > Nancy > > User's Guide to the New FamilySearch Website (20 February 2012) > > (LDS Version) Do I Need a Relative's Permission to Perform Ordinances? > (110-Year Rule) > > Problem > .When do I need to get permission to perform ordinances? > .Which relative can give permission for ordinances to be performed? > > Resolution > >  Before doing ordinances for a deceased person born in the last 110 years, > please remember that close relatives may not want the ordinances performed, > or they may want to do the ordinances themselves. > > > You may do ordinances for your own deceased spouse, child, parent, or > sibling, but please consider the wishes of other close living relatives, > especially a living spouse. > > If you are not a spouse, child, parent, or sibling of the deceased, please > obtain permission from the closest living relative before doing the > ordinances. The closest living relatives are, in this order: an undivorced > spouse (the spouse to whom the individual was married when he or she died), > an adult child, a parent, or a brother or sister. > > Verbal approval is acceptable. 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There are 2 sisters in our ward who have been sealed to divorced husbands.  They never married after divorce and their children are all with the divorced spouse.  I don't know the details, but I can find out.  One sister is 87 and a very close friend of mine, the other is 69 and also a close friend. This is something to find out more about. Betty Jo Colbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Scott" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:30:45 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Divorced Spouse Thinking about it, I feel that Megan is correct that one cannot be sealed to a divorced spouse when you are living.  I should have thought more carefully about it before I posted it.   Nancy Scott     Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maureen Lake, what kind of adjustments has your stake made to include the youth?   Families Are Forever Carol Riner Everett ________________________________ From: Maureen Lake <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Calling youth for FH Consultants Our stake president instructed each bishop in our stake to call a youth to serve as a family history consultant.  The plan is to call a second one of the opposite gender in about six months. I have had a youth serving with me for the las two years.  It has been a journey. I would think that Elder Bednar's talk last conference would have settled the question.  Youth can and should serve in family history callings.  We've adjusted our family history program in the stake to include and embrace the ideal. Maureen Lake Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Chuck Woodings <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand from others I've met at FH Conferences that some wards/stakes > are calling youth to be Family History consultants and I would like to know > what the churches position is on this practice.  I feel it would be a very > good experience for Priests preparing for a mission. > Can someone elaborate on this and perhaps if you've done it tell me of your > experience. > Thank you! > > Chuck Woodings, Ward Family History Consultant > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message