For those of you new to using the Family Tree application, you will want to read the user's guide. It is found under Help, then Family Tree Help. Here is a link to the page: https://www.familysearch.org/help/self-help Look for Family Tree Help then click on Using the FamilySearch Family Tree and it will download a pdf file of the user's guide for you. Shanna Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Kemp Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? I see that the FamilyTree feature is now live on FamilySearch. Is that new? I hadn't seen it on the FS site before - just on the separate Beta sites. Works pretty well. Tom Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have seen it on a separate site & Beta page - but hadn't seen it directly on the FamilySearch.org page itself. When I log in - it is synced to my tree. Very handy. I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That access will then be via the tree. Is that still the plan? Tom On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Steve Kelsey <[email protected]> wrote: > That option has been online for probably a year now. > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Kemp" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:42 PM > Subject: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >>I see that the FamilyTree feature is now live on FamilySearch. >> Is that new? >> I hadn't seen it on the FS site before - just on the separate Beta sites. >> >> Works pretty well. >> Tom >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the item and make the change. And you can change things that others have submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. Don Snow On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd > spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a lot of > stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS > will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing > and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but > they won't see ordinances at all. > > The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of > church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this > place instead of nFS. > > David Samuelsen > > On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >> Very handy. >> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >> access will then be via the tree. >> Is that still the plan? > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah - [email protected]

no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but they won't see ordinances at all. The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this place instead of nFS. David Samuelsen On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: > Very handy. > I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar > nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That > access will then be via the tree. > Is that still the plan?

by invitation until testing was done. Still some bugs and problems. David Samuelsen On 3/29/2012 9:32 AM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > That option has been online for probably a year now. > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Kemp"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:42 PM > Subject: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >> I see that the FamilyTree feature is now live on FamilySearch. >> Is that new? >> I hadn't seen it on the FS site before - just on the separate Beta sites. >> >> Works pretty well. >> Tom >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jorge, Thanks for this list. It is consistent with the name abbreviating custom of the time in English-speaking countries: W(m) (superscript m) = William Dan(l) (Superscript l) = Daniel Tho(s) (superscript s) = Thomas I even found a note on the passenger list of a ship where the captain wrote describing a passenger who'd stolen food from the others and included the abbreviation: da(d) (superscript final d). It took me awhile to figure out he was cussing and not naming. Jerry ---------------------------- At least in Portuguese records found in Brazil up to the middle of the 19th century that is the case. "J" followed by a superscripted "e" meaning "Jose." Other common abbreviations for names and surnames: J(e) = Jose Joaq(m) = Joaquim M(el) = Manuel Ant(o) = Antonio M(a) = Maria Joaq(na) = Joaquina Per(a) = Pereira Oliv(ra) = Oliveira S(a) = Silva Miz = Martins Glz = Goncalves Nz = Nunes This is by no means an exhaustive list. -- Jorge Todeschini __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7010 (20120329) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

That option has been online for probably a year now. Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kemp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:42 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >I see that the FamilyTree feature is now live on FamilySearch. > Is that new? > I hadn't seen it on the FS site before - just on the separate Beta sites. > > Works pretty well. > Tom > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many of them are online at familysearch.org. To access them you click on the area, then the country, state, etc. then a list of records comes up and it tells which are indexed or which you have to search through. > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:29:19 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] the family search now online. > > On 3/28/2012 10:15 PM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > > It would sure be nice if the church would decide to put some of the original > > records they have on microfilm on line without the indexing, i.e. especially > > wills and probate records, parish registers, etc. If this a permission > > issue or what? > > Permissions must be obtained from owners of records before images are > placed online. > > And FamilySearch have done a lot of that and lot of re-negotiation was > involved with many of the owners. They investigate copyrights of church > records, too. > > David Samuelsen > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

asked and answered in other email. It has to do with permissions regardless of indexing. David On 3/28/2012 10:24 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Yes yes yes!!! > > The 1880 was much easier to search with the old method. > > I also keep wondering why they are waiting to index everything before > putting all the microfilms online. (Risk of duplication? It's going to take > years and years and years before they can index all those films) I'd love to > be researching my French ancestors at home. I'm sure there are many folks > with young children or being caregivers or who work long hours who would > really appreciate the flexibility of being able to research on their own > time schedule without having to go to the FHL to do it. > > Michele

On 3/28/2012 10:15 PM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > It would sure be nice if the church would decide to put some of the original > records they have on microfilm on line without the indexing, i.e. especially > wills and probate records, parish registers, etc. If this a permission > issue or what? Permissions must be obtained from owners of records before images are placed online. And FamilySearch have done a lot of that and lot of re-negotiation was involved with many of the owners. They investigate copyrights of church records, too. David Samuelsen

At least in Portuguese records found in Brazil up to the middle of the 19th century that is the case. "J" followed by a superscripted "e" meaning "Jose." Other common abbreviations for names and surnames: J(e) = Jose Joaq(m) = Joaquim M(el) = Manuel Ant(o) = Antonio M(a) = Maria Joaq(na) = Joaquina Per(a) = Pereira Oliv(ra) = Oliveira S(a) = Silva Miz = Martins Glz = Goncalves Nz = Nunes This is by no means an exhaustive list. -- Jorge Todeschini -----Original Message----- From: Betty Jo and Don Colbert Sent: 28 Mar 2012 19:17:42 GMT To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple I didn't know that either...but ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Cazier" <[email protected]> To: "Carol Riner Everett" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple I have spoken Spanish for nearly 60 years having lived a total of 11 years in So. America, Central America and Mexico and did NOT know that Je was an abbreviation for José even tho' I am a secretary and have done a lot of typing in latin countries including the Central America area office. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Riner Everett Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple << BUT, everyone knows that "Je" is short for "Jose" -- just like "Wm" is short for "William." Since I have no Joses in my family, I had not idea that "Je" is short for Jose! Carol Everett Cary, NC -----Mensagem Original----- From: Karen Jorgensen Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple Glen Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: <lds-ward-consul[email protected]> Glen said: "I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being released to the Temple. Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search before they are released?" I disagree with the previous answer that they are checked for duplicates. I find marriage extraction records all the time that have to be merged with previously entered info and/or individuals who have had their temple ordinances completed. As an example, I was looking just last week at the NFS entry for my great-grandmother and great grandfather, whose ordinances I did 30 years ago. I searched for duplicates and found that they had an extracted marriage record in NFS. So I merged them. Again, I find this often, and I don't understand even why extraction programs are entered into NFS anyway. Yes, the extracted marriages I find (including my great-grandmother and great grandfather) did not have their temple ordinances done. But why do they put the outcome of an extraction project into NFS? Why don't they put it in a FAMILY SEARCH program? I always feel lucky that these extracted marriages don't have temple ordinances done for them. But they do create a second entry for an individual and their spouse, with no surrounding family. I would like to have a list for the county I am working in of the extracted marriages so that I can go through and merge them before someone comes along and does their temple work. But this is a problem to me. Karen ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 27, 2012 2:01:11 AM Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 71 Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics: 1. Re: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 (Glen Parker) 2. Re: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 (Randy Bryson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:57:24 -0600 From: Glen Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being release to the Temple. Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search before they are released? > From: [email protected] > Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:01:05 -0600 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >[email protected] If you prefer the digest >version, >use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember to >restrict >the size of your post. > > > Today's Topics: > >  1. Re: releasing names to Temples (Shanna Jones) >  2. Re: releasing names to Temples ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:01:58 -0600 > From: Shanna Jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Q: > Then there are the thousands upon thousands of names which were converted > to "in progress" or more currently "Family Search" or "Unknown" when the > temples took the cards on hand in their cupboards and transferred them to > NFS back in 2007-2008. I still have an 8 page print out of names waiting > to > be released from that limbo. :-) > > A: Some older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch > became available, and these cards display as reserved by "Unknown" or by > "LDS Church Temple Records." Depending on the status of the ordinance, it > may be possible to release the reservation on a particular person, > allowing > you to reserve it and perform the ordinances. Please contact Support, and > they will assist you. > > Extraction records that show "Ready" can be reserved by you even though > they > say they are reserved by the FamilySearch Extraction Program. > See Knowledge Document 109130 > or search Help Center "reserved by unknown" > > Shanna Jones > St. George > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Yep. I spoke with them. Sent them the excel file with all the PIDs and > names and may 1/10 th were released if that. That's been almost a year > ago. >  :-) > > BTW It isn't just me. Back in 2009 when I realized what was happening > and > spoke to > SL engineers (not missionaries, not local helpers), they just gasped in > the realization that every single temple up to that time had the same > challenge with the slips already printed. This isn't an isolated > problem. I >just > > can't believe there isn't a way to fix it. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 3/25/2012 4:04:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > A: Some older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch > became available, and these cards display as reserved by "Unknown" or by > "LDS Church Temple Records." Depending on the status of the ordinance, it > may be possible to release the reservation on a particular person, > allowing > you to reserve it and perform the ordinances. Please contact Support, and > they will assist you. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email > to >[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of >the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > ************************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:18:37 +0000 From: Randy Bryson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes. It's built in. Randy Bryson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Parker Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 6:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being release to the Temple. Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search before they are released? > From: [email protected] > Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:01:05 -0600 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >[email protected] If you prefer the digest >version, >use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember to >restrict >the size of your post. > > > Today's Topics: > >  1. Re: releasing names to Temples (Shanna Jones) >  2. Re: releasing names to Temples ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:01:58 -0600 > From: Shanna Jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Q: > Then there are the thousands upon thousands of names which were > converted to "in progress" or more currently "Family Search" or > "Unknown" when the temples took the cards on hand in their cupboards > and transferred them to NFS back in 2007-2008. I still have an 8 > page print out of names waiting to > be released from that limbo. :-) > > A: Some older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch became available, and these cards display as reserved by > "Unknown" or by "LDS Church Temple Records." Depending on the status > of the ordinance, it may be possible to release the reservation on a > particular person, allowing you to reserve it and perform the > ordinances. Please contact Support, and they will assist you. > > Extraction records that show "Ready" can be reserved by you even > though they say they are reserved by the FamilySearch Extraction Program. > See Knowledge Document 109130 > or search Help Center "reserved by unknown" > > Shanna Jones > St. George > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Yep. I spoke with them. Sent them the excel file with all the PIDs > and names and may 1/10 th were released if that. That's been almost a > year >ago. >  :-) > > BTW It isn't just me. 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I see that the FamilyTree feature is now live on FamilySearch. Is that new? I hadn't seen it on the FS site before - just on the separate Beta sites. Works pretty well. Tom

Yes yes yes!!! The 1880 was much easier to search with the old method. I also keep wondering why they are waiting to index everything before putting all the microfilms online. (Risk of duplication? It's going to take years and years and years before they can index all those films) I'd love to be researching my French ancestors at home. I'm sure there are many folks with young children or being caregivers or who work long hours who would really appreciate the flexibility of being able to research on their own time schedule without having to go to the FHL to do it. Michele In a message dated 3/28/2012 9:17:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The way the old program shows the 1880 census is so far SUPERIOR to what is claimed to be improvement and certainly whoever put together the new program must have been programmers and people with absolutely ZERO research or genealogical experience in searching actual records. It would sure be nice if the church would decide to put some of the original records they have on microfilm on line without the indexing, i.e. especially wills and probate records, parish registers, etc. If this a permission issue or what? The Danish government as well as Norway has done such an excellent job of providing census and parish registers online. For instance, even the printed copies of the Great Britain Principal Probate Registry Index would be extremely useful online. Indexing is great; however, in my lifetime (not more than 25 years more), I would sure like to be able to search some of what the church has on microfilm--online, especially since I cannot get the the FHL anymore. I really do not care whether it is indexed or not. Steve Kelsey Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found that the indexed records are put directly into nFS in say the last 3 months or less when I was working on the Bandkau family from Owosso, Michigan. I found it very interesting that this family that I pieced together showed up less than a week later at www.familysearch.org with a link to them in nFs when I was logged in as a member. If anyone wants exact dates, feel free to email me off line and I will give you the PIDs for this group. Send me an email to [email protected] with the subject BANDKAU PIDS Nancy Scott Sent from my Epic 4g -----Original Message----- From: Shanna Jones <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple Extraction began in 1978 "We are introducing a Churchwide program of extracting names from genealogical records. Church members may now render second-mile service through participating in this regard in extracting these names in this program, supervised by the priesthood leaders at the local level where you will receive further detail." (Ensign, May 1978, p. 4.) At that point there were only 16 temples. Extraction was done after the four generation program. The new FamilySearch program now provides members with this opportunity. Extraction was replaced with FamilySearch indexing and there are still teams out taking digital images of more records. Some of the extracted records are in new FamilySearch so that we can research and place them in families and eliminate the duplicates. All of the indexed records now go into the Historical Records Collection at www.familysearch.org so that we can search them and put them in the correct families in new.familysearch.org (or Family Tree) and source them using the documents. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The way the old program shows the 1880 census is so far SUPERIOR to what is claimed to be improvement and certainly whoever put together the new program must have been programmers and people with absolutely ZERO research or genealogical experience in searching actual records. It would sure be nice if the church would decide to put some of the original records they have on microfilm on line without the indexing, i.e. especially wills and probate records, parish registers, etc. If this a permission issue or what? The Danish government as well as Norway has done such an excellent job of providing census and parish registers online. For instance, even the printed copies of the Great Britain Principal Probate Registry Index would be extremely useful online. Indexing is great; however, in my lifetime (not more than 25 years more), I would sure like to be able to search some of what the church has on microfilm--online, especially since I cannot get the the FHL anymore. I really do not care whether it is indexed or not. Steve Kelsey

Extraction began in 1978 "We are introducing a Churchwide program of extracting names from genealogical records. Church members may now render second-mile service through participating in this regard in extracting these names in this program, supervised by the priesthood leaders at the local level where you will receive further detail." (Ensign, May 1978, p. 4.) At that point there were only 16 temples. Extraction was done after the four generation program. The new FamilySearch program now provides members with this opportunity. Extraction was replaced with FamilySearch indexing and there are still teams out taking digital images of more records. Some of the extracted records are in new FamilySearch so that we can research and place them in families and eliminate the duplicates. All of the indexed records now go into the Historical Records Collection at www.familysearch.org so that we can search them and put them in the correct families in new.familysearch.org (or Family Tree) and source them using the documents.

On 3/28/2012 10:49 AM, Karen Jorgensen wrote: > Glen said: > "I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being released to the > Temple. Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search > before they are released?" > > I disagree with the previous answer that they are checked for duplicates. I find > marriage extraction records all the time that have to be merged with previously > entered info and/or individuals who have had their temple ordinances completed. > As an example, I was looking just last week at the NFS entry for my > great-grandmother and great grandfather, whose ordinances I did 30 years ago. I > searched for duplicates and found that they had an extracted marriage record in > NFS. So I merged them. I have to agree with Karen Jorgensen. Even today I find these children and merged, effectively any further ordinances because they were already done. David Samuelsen

I didn't know that either...but ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Cazier" <[email protected]> To: "Carol Riner Everett" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple I have spoken Spanish for nearly 60 years having lived a total of 11 years in So. America, Central America and Mexico and did NOT know that Je was an abbreviation for José even tho' I am a secretary and have done a lot of typing in latin countries including the Central America area office.   -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Riner Everett Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple << BUT, everyone knows that "Je" is short for "Jose" -- just like "Wm" is short for "William." Since I have no Joses in my family, I had not idea that "Je" is short for Jose!    Carol Everett Cary, NC       -----Mensagem Original----- From: Karen Jorgensen Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple Glen Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: <[email protected]> Glen said: "I  see by some of the posts that extracted records are being released to the Temple.  Are these records being checked for duplicates on new  Family Search before they are released?" I disagree with the previous answer that they are checked for duplicates. I find marriage extraction records all the time that have to be merged with previously entered info and/or individuals who have had their temple ordinances completed. As an example, I was looking just last week at the NFS entry for my great-grandmother and great grandfather, whose ordinances I did 30 years ago. I searched for duplicates and found that they had an extracted marriage record in NFS. So I merged them. Again, I find this often, and I don't understand even why extraction programs are entered into NFS anyway. Yes, the extracted marriages I find (including my great-grandmother and great grandfather) did not have their temple ordinances done. But why do they put the outcome of an extraction project into NFS? Why don't they put it in a FAMILY SEARCH program? I always feel lucky that these extracted marriages don't have temple ordinances done for them. But they do create a second entry for an individual and their spouse, with no surrounding family. I would like to have a list for the county I am working in of the extracted marriages so that I can go through and merge them before someone comes along and does their temple work. But this is a problem to me. Karen ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 27, 2012 2:01:11 AM Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 71 Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]  If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address.  Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics:   1. Re: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 (Glen Parker)   2. Re: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 (Randy Bryson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:57:24 -0600 From: Glen Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being release to the Temple.  Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search before they are released? > From: [email protected] > Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:01:05 -0600 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >[email protected]  If you prefer the digest >version, >use a D instead of the L in the request address.  Please remember to >restrict >the size of your post. > > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: releasing names to Temples (Shanna Jones) >    2. Re: releasing names to Temples ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:01:58 -0600 > From: Shanna Jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Q: > Then there are the thousands upon  thousands of names which were converted > to "in progress" or more currently  "Family Search" or "Unknown" when the > temples took the cards on hand in their  cupboards and transferred them to > NFS back in 2007-2008.  I still have an 8  page print out of names waiting > to > be released from that limbo.  :-) > > A: Some older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch > became available, and these cards display as reserved by "Unknown" or by > "LDS Church Temple Records." Depending on the status of the ordinance, it > may be possible to release the reservation on a particular person, > allowing > you to reserve it and perform the ordinances. Please contact Support, and > they will assist you. > > Extraction records that show "Ready" can be reserved by you even though > they > say they are reserved by the FamilySearch Extraction Program. > See Knowledge Document 109130 > or search Help Center "reserved by unknown" > > Shanna Jones > St. George > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Yep.  I spoke with them.  Sent them the excel file with all the  PIDs and > names and may 1/10 th were released if that.  That's been almost a  year > ago. >  :-) > > BTW It isn't just me.  Back in 2009 when I realized what was happening > and > spoke to > SL engineers (not missionaries, not local helpers), they just  gasped in > the realization that every single temple up to that time had the same > challenge with the slips already printed.  This isn't an isolated > problem.  I >just > > can't believe there isn't a way to fix it. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 3/25/2012 4:04:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > A: Some  older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch > became  available, and these cards display as reserved by "Unknown" or by > "LDS  Church Temple Records." Depending on the status of the ordinance, it > may be  possible to release the reservation on a particular person, > allowing > you to  reserve it and perform the ordinances. Please contact Support, and > they  will assist you. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email > to >[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of >the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > ************************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:18:37 +0000 From: Randy Bryson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: "[email protected]"     <[email protected]> Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes. It's built in. Randy Bryson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Parker Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 6:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being release to the Temple.  Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search before they are released? > From: [email protected] > Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:01:05 -0600 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >[email protected]  If you prefer the digest >version, >use a D instead of the L in the request address.  Please remember to >restrict >the size of your post. > > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: releasing names to Temples (Shanna Jones) >    2. Re: releasing names to Temples ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:01:58 -0600 > From: Shanna Jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Q: > Then there are the thousands upon  thousands of names which were > converted to "in progress" or more currently  "Family Search" or > "Unknown" when the temples took the cards on hand in their  cupboards > and transferred them to NFS back in 2007-2008.  I still have an 8 > page print out of names waiting to > be released from that limbo.  :-) > > A: Some older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch became available, and these cards display as reserved by > "Unknown" or by "LDS Church Temple Records." Depending on the status > of the ordinance, it may be possible to release the reservation on a > particular person, allowing you to reserve it and perform the > ordinances. Please contact Support, and they will assist you. > > Extraction records that show "Ready" can be reserved by you even > though they say they are reserved by the FamilySearch Extraction Program. > See Knowledge Document 109130 > or search Help Center "reserved by unknown" > > Shanna Jones > St. George > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Yep.  I spoke with them.  Sent them the excel file with all the  PIDs > and names and may 1/10 th were released if that.  That's been almost a > year >ago. >  :-) > > BTW It isn't just me.  Back in 2009 when I realized what was happening > and spoke to SL engineers (not missionaries, not local helpers), they > just  gasped in the realization that every single temple up to that > time had the same challenge with the slips already printed.  This > isn't an isolated  problem.  I just can't believe there isn't a way to > fix it. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 3/25/2012 4:04:20 P.M. 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I am not sure the precise difference between extraction and indexing. I find that records on my Michigan ancestors are indexed and then put into nFS. Is this then an extraction record? I go in and attempt to put the families together and correct the mistranscriptions but it is a labor of love that I do not enjoy. According to "Hearts Turned to the Fathers, A history of the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1894-1994", extractions were started in order to REDUCE duplication. In my opinion, this did not solve the issue. The only true solution to reduce duplication is for members to carefully verify and submit their ancestors. I like the quote by President Kimball that goes like this, "If we would slow down, we would get more done." The wonderful thing that I see about indexed or extracted records it that they are helpful so that we do not miss a person or entire families. One of my Ward members had skipped an entire generation on his father's side. I found a birth record that was entered by extraction that told me the parents indicated were not correct. With a lot more effort and a social security application to verify the names of the parents, that family was discovered. Nancy Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Cowley Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 01:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple Couple of things here. First, according to my best information, records are no longer being extracted for temple work. We're indexing instead, and the burden is back on the members. Extracted records were authorized to keep all the temples going that we've been building in recent years because the member submissions didn't keep up. Duplicated ordinances weren't considered to be a big concern way back then. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7007 (20120328) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have spoken Spanish for nearly 60 years having lived a total of 11 years in So. America, Central America and Mexico and did NOT know that Je was an abbreviation for José even tho' I am a secretary and have done a lot of typing in latin countries including the Central America area office. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Riner Everett Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple << BUT, everyone knows that "Je" is short for "Jose" -- just like "Wm" is short for "William." Since I have no Joses in my family, I had not idea that "Je" is short for Jose!    Carol Everett Cary, NC       -----Mensagem Original----- From: Karen Jorgensen Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] Extracted records released to the Temple Glen Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: <[email protected]> Glen said: "I  see by some of the posts that extracted records are being released to the Temple.  Are these records being checked for duplicates on new  Family Search before they are released?" I disagree with the previous answer that they are checked for duplicates. I find marriage extraction records all the time that have to be merged with previously entered info and/or individuals who have had their temple ordinances completed. As an example, I was looking just last week at the NFS entry for my great-grandmother and great grandfather, whose ordinances I did 30 years ago. I searched for duplicates and found that they had an extracted marriage record in NFS. So I merged them. Again, I find this often, and I don't understand even why extraction programs are entered into NFS anyway. Yes, the extracted marriages I find (including my great-grandmother and great grandfather) did not have their temple ordinances done. But why do they put the outcome of an extraction project into NFS? Why don't they put it in a FAMILY SEARCH program? I always feel lucky that these extracted marriages don't have temple ordinances done for them. But they do create a second entry for an individual and their spouse, with no surrounding family. I would like to have a list for the county I am working in of the extracted marriages so that I can go through and merge them before someone comes along and does their temple work. But this is a problem to me. Karen ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 27, 2012 2:01:11 AM Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 71 Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]  If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address.  Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics:   1. Re: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 (Glen Parker)   2. Re: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 (Randy Bryson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:57:24 -0600 From: Glen Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being release to the Temple.  Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search before they are released? > From: [email protected] > Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:01:05 -0600 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >[email protected]  If you prefer the digest >version, >use a D instead of the L in the request address.  Please remember to >restrict >the size of your post. > > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: releasing names to Temples (Shanna Jones) >    2. Re: releasing names to Temples ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:01:58 -0600 > From: Shanna Jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Q: > Then there are the thousands upon  thousands of names which were converted > to "in progress" or more currently  "Family Search" or "Unknown" when the > temples took the cards on hand in their  cupboards and transferred them to > NFS back in 2007-2008.  I still have an 8  page print out of names waiting > to > be released from that limbo.  :-) > > A: Some older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch > became available, and these cards display as reserved by "Unknown" or by > "LDS Church Temple Records." Depending on the status of the ordinance, it > may be possible to release the reservation on a particular person, > allowing > you to reserve it and perform the ordinances. Please contact Support, and > they will assist you. > > Extraction records that show "Ready" can be reserved by you even though > they > say they are reserved by the FamilySearch Extraction Program. > See Knowledge Document 109130 > or search Help Center "reserved by unknown" > > Shanna Jones > St. George > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Yep.  I spoke with them.  Sent them the excel file with all the  PIDs and > names and may 1/10 th were released if that.  That's been almost a  year > ago. >  :-) > > BTW It isn't just me.  Back in 2009 when I realized what was happening > and > spoke to > SL engineers (not missionaries, not local helpers), they just  gasped in > the realization that every single temple up to that time had the same > challenge with the slips already printed.  This isn't an isolated > problem.  I >just > > can't believe there isn't a way to fix it. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 3/25/2012 4:04:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > A: Some  older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch > became  available, and these cards display as reserved by "Unknown" or by > "LDS  Church Temple Records." Depending on the status of the ordinance, it > may be  possible to release the reservation on a particular person, > allowing > you to  reserve it and perform the ordinances. Please contact Support, and > they  will assist you. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT mailing list, send an email > to >[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of >the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > ************************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:18:37 +0000 From: Randy Bryson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 To: "[email protected]"     <[email protected]> Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes. It's built in. Randy Bryson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Parker Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 6:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 I see by some of the posts that extracted records are being release to the Temple.  Are these records being checked for duplicates on new Family Search before they are released? > From: [email protected] > Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 70 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:01:05 -0600 > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >[email protected]  If you prefer the digest >version, >use a D instead of the L in the request address.  Please remember to >restrict >the size of your post. > > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: releasing names to Temples (Shanna Jones) >    2. Re: releasing names to Temples ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:01:58 -0600 > From: Shanna Jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Q: > Then there are the thousands upon  thousands of names which were > converted to "in progress" or more currently  "Family Search" or > "Unknown" when the temples took the cards on hand in their  cupboards > and transferred them to NFS back in 2007-2008.  I still have an 8 > page print out of names waiting to > be released from that limbo.  :-) > > A: Some older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch became available, and these cards display as reserved by > "Unknown" or by "LDS Church Temple Records." Depending on the status > of the ordinance, it may be possible to release the reservation on a > particular person, allowing you to reserve it and perform the > ordinances. Please contact Support, and they will assist you. > > Extraction records that show "Ready" can be reserved by you even > though they say they are reserved by the FamilySearch Extraction Program. > See Knowledge Document 109130 > or search Help Center "reserved by unknown" > > Shanna Jones > St. George > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] releasing names to Temples > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Yep.  I spoke with them.  Sent them the excel file with all the  PIDs > and names and may 1/10 th were released if that.  That's been almost a > year >ago. >  :-) > > BTW It isn't just me.  Back in 2009 when I realized what was happening > and spoke to SL engineers (not missionaries, not local helpers), they > just  gasped in the realization that every single temple up to that > time had the same challenge with the slips already printed.  This > isn't an isolated  problem.  I just can't believe there isn't a way to > fix it. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 3/25/2012 4:04:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > A: Some  older cards were released to the temple before the new > FamilySearch became  available, and these cards display as reserved by > "Unknown" or by "LDS  Church Temple Records." Depending on the status > of the ordinance, it may be  possible to release the reservation on a > particular person, allowing you to  reserve it and perform the > ordinances. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4899 - Release Date: 03/28/12