yes, by invitation only by administration - AFTER they are clear in knowledge and purpose of nFS. And they will NOT see one thing the LDS do - ordinances. I am aware of one person in Florida. David Samuelsen On 3/30/2012 7:58 AM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > Can non-lds members currently get access? > > Steve Kelsey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DORIS BATEMAN"<[email protected]> > To: "lds-ward-consultant"<[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 6:12 AM > Subject: [LDS-WC] (no subject) > > >> >> You can gain access by going into the help section of new.familysearch and >> put the words "Family Tree early access" in the search box. Click on the >> second document to come up. There will be a link in there to click on and >> it will give you access to Family Tree. After gaining access the first >> time, you will enter the program by going to familysearch.org, sign in >> with your lds username and password, and there will be a link in the >> upper left hand corner that says "Family Tree". Click on that. >> Important: unlike other betas on NFS, you are working with the real >> database. Changes you make will not be thrown out, but change NFS. Try >> adding sources. It is magnificent!!! Sources you add will not be lost. >> As of the last time I was in it, you could change names and spelling, and >> add info, but could not combine or search for duplicates yet, but it is >> changing rapidly. There is a user's guide in the help section, search for >> it with Family Tree User's Guide.Doris Bateman >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:07:00 -0600 >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >>> >>> not the same one. >>> >>> You can see it at www.familysearch.org (not new.familysearch.org) >>> when you sign in. >>> >>> If it is not there next to logo for FamilySearch, then you haven't >>> either been invited or not available in your area. >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 5:12 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> I'm in Southern California and I can see it. Go to "See Me and My >>>> Ancestors" and use the pull down tab on the toolbar titled "Change >>>> View." Choose >>>> Family Tree. >>>> >>>> Michele >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 2:09:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> Family search family tree is not available everywhere. They are still >>>> in >>>> Beta Testing. I just checked to see if I can access it here in CA. It >>>> is not >>>> available here. I am patiently waiting for it here. It was made >>>> available to a select group or market for testing. per the help on >>>> familysearch. >>>> >>>> Kathy >>>> CA >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Steve Kelsey<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" >>>>> improvements? >>>>> I am with Michele. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Kelsey >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >>>>> To:<[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you >>>>>> can >>>>>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo >>>>>> much >>>>>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of >>>>>> the >>>>>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others >>>>>> have >>>>>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >>>>>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems >>>>>> will >>>>>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only >>>>>> what's >>>>>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the >>>>>> old >>>>>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't >>>>>> be >>>>>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what >>>>>> needs >>>>>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >>>>>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >>>>>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't >>>>>> see >>>>>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an >>>>>> LDS >>>>>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don Snow >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish >>>>>>> they'd >>>>>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, >>>>>>> and >>>> a >>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michele >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. >>>>>>> nFS >>>>>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for >>>> fixing >>>>>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> place instead of nFS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Samuelsen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>>>>>> Very handy. >>>>>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the >>>>>>>> familiar >>>>>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. >>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>>>>>> Is that still the plan? >>>>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected] with the word >>>>>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>> without the quotes in the >>>>>>> subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected] with the word >>>>>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >>>>>> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the >>>> subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can non-lds members currently get access? Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "DORIS BATEMAN" <[email protected]> To: "lds-ward-consultant" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 6:12 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] (no subject) > > You can gain access by going into the help section of new.familysearch and > put the words "Family Tree early access" in the search box. Click on the > second document to come up. There will be a link in there to click on and > it will give you access to Family Tree. After gaining access the first > time, you will enter the program by going to familysearch.org, sign in > with your lds username and password, and there will be a link in the > upper left hand corner that says "Family Tree". Click on that. > Important: unlike other betas on NFS, you are working with the real > database. Changes you make will not be thrown out, but change NFS. Try > adding sources. It is magnificent!!! Sources you add will not be lost. > As of the last time I was in it, you could change names and spelling, and > add info, but could not combine or search for duplicates yet, but it is > changing rapidly. There is a user's guide in the help section, search for > it with Family Tree User's Guide.Doris Bateman > > >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:07:00 -0600 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >> >> not the same one. >> >> You can see it at www.familysearch.org (not new.familysearch.org) >> when you sign in. >> >> If it is not there next to logo for FamilySearch, then you haven't >> either been invited or not available in your area. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 3/29/2012 5:12 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> > I'm in Southern California and I can see it. Go to "See Me and My >> > Ancestors" and use the pull down tab on the toolbar titled "Change >> > View." Choose >> > Family Tree. >> > >> > Michele >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 3/29/2012 2:09:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> > [email protected] writes: >> > >> > Family search family tree is not available everywhere. They are still >> > in >> > Beta Testing. I just checked to see if I can access it here in CA. It >> > is not >> > available here. I am patiently waiting for it here. It was made >> > available to a select group or market for testing. per the help on >> > familysearch. >> > >> > Kathy >> > CA >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone. >> > >> > >> > On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Steve Kelsey<[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" >> >> improvements? >> >> I am with Michele. >> >> >> >> Steve Kelsey >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >> >> To:<[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >> >> >> >> >> >>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you >> >>> can >> >>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo >> >>> much >> >>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of >> >>> the >> >>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others >> >>> have >> >>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >> >>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems >> >>> will >> >>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only >> >>> what's >> >>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the >> >>> old >> >>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't >> >>> be >> >>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what >> >>> needs >> >>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >> >>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >> >>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't >> >>> see >> >>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an >> >>> LDS >> >>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >> >>> >> >>> Don Snow >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish >> >>>> they'd >> >>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, >> >>>> and >> > a >> >>>> lot of >> >>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >> >>>> >> >>>> Michele >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> >>>> [email protected] writes: >> >>>> >> >>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. >> >>>> nFS >> >>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for >> > fixing >> >>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only >> >>>> but >> >>>> they won't see ordinances at all. >> >>>> >> >>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members >> >>>> of >> >>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from >> >>>> this >> >>>> place instead of nFS. >> >>>> >> >>>> David Samuelsen >> >>>> >> >>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >> >>>>> Very handy. >> >>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the >> >>>>> familiar >> >>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. >> >>>>> That >> >>>>> access will then be via the tree. >> >>>>> Is that still the plan? >> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> [email protected] with the word >> >>>> 'unsubscribe' >> >>>> without the quotes in the >> >>>> subject and the body of the message >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> [email protected] with the word >> >>>> 'unsubscribe' >> >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >> >>> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> > [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in >> > the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> > [email protected] >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the >> > subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> > [email protected] >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can gain access by going into the help section of new.familysearch and put the words "Family Tree early access" in the search box. Click on the second document to come up. There will be a link in there to click on and it will give you access to Family Tree. After gaining access the first time, you will enter the program by going to familysearch.org, sign in with your lds username and password, and there will be a link in the upper left hand corner that says "Family Tree". Click on that. Important: unlike other betas on NFS, you are working with the real database. Changes you make will not be thrown out, but change NFS. Try adding sources. It is magnificent!!! Sources you add will not be lost. As of the last time I was in it, you could change names and spelling, and add info, but could not combine or search for duplicates yet, but it is changing rapidly. There is a user's guide in the help section, search for it with Family Tree User's Guide.Doris Bateman > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:07:00 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > not the same one. > > You can see it at www.familysearch.org (not new.familysearch.org) > when you sign in. > > If it is not there next to logo for FamilySearch, then you haven't > either been invited or not available in your area. > > David Samuelsen > > On 3/29/2012 5:12 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > I'm in Southern California and I can see it. Go to "See Me and My > > Ancestors" and use the pull down tab on the toolbar titled "Change View." Choose > > Family Tree. > > > > Michele > > > > > > In a message dated 3/29/2012 2:09:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Family search family tree is not available everywhere. They are still in > > Beta Testing. I just checked to see if I can access it here in CA. It is not > > available here. I am patiently waiting for it here. It was made > > available to a select group or market for testing. per the help on familysearch. > > > > Kathy > > CA > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > > > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Steve Kelsey<[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? > >> I am with Michele. > >> > >> Steve Kelsey > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> > >> To:<[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM > >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > >> > >> > >>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can > >>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much > >>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the > >>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have > >>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) > >>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will > >>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's > >>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old > >>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be > >>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs > >>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. > >>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm > >>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see > >>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS > >>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. > >>> > >>> Don Snow > >>> > >>> > >>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd > >>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and > > a > >>>> lot of > >>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. > >>>> > >>>> Michele > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > >>>> [email protected] writes: > >>>> > >>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS > >>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for > > fixing > >>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but > >>>> they won't see ordinances at all. > >>>> > >>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of > >>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this > >>>> place instead of nFS. > >>>> > >>>> David Samuelsen > >>>> > >>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: > >>>>> Very handy. > >>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar > >>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That > >>>>> access will then be via the tree. > >>>>> Is that still the plan? > >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>> without the quotes in the > >>>> subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young > >>> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > >>> [email protected] > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> > >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected] > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did anyone else receive the message about 1940 census party or celebration from FamilySearch today? Looks like my new ISP servers killed some of messages I was supposed to receive. Can anyone who got it, send my way so I can read what it is all about. David Samuelsen

not the same one. You can see it at www.familysearch.org (not new.familysearch.org) when you sign in. If it is not there next to logo for FamilySearch, then you haven't either been invited or not available in your area. David Samuelsen On 3/29/2012 5:12 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I'm in Southern California and I can see it. Go to "See Me and My > Ancestors" and use the pull down tab on the toolbar titled "Change View." Choose > Family Tree. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 3/29/2012 2:09:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Family search family tree is not available everywhere. They are still in > Beta Testing. I just checked to see if I can access it here in CA. It is not > available here. I am patiently waiting for it here. It was made > available to a select group or market for testing. per the help on familysearch. > > Kathy > CA > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Steve Kelsey<[email protected]> wrote: > >> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? >> I am with Michele. >> >> Steve Kelsey >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >> >> >>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >>> >>> Don Snow >>> >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and > a >>>> lot of >>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>>> >>>> Michele >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for > fixing >>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>>> >>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>>> place instead of nFS. >>>> >>>> David Samuelsen >>>> >>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>>> Very handy. >>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>>> Is that still the plan? >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the >>>> subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >>> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

one thing I learned - DO NOT TRUST THOSE THIRD PARTY APPLICATIONS! I meant Insight, and other applications. They're sources of MIS-merges. I got an email that was really infuriating - from the support, questioning in a hard-ball way about using these 3rd party applications. From what I observed on my lines and others, some will merge on dates alone, other by names alone, etc without looking at FULL records. I am waiting for the support to restore "clickable" boxes for LHD4-J7Z Johann Adam Hay (3 different BRITISH Hays I need to expel from my German Hays and separate other Germans from my Johann Adam Hay) David Samuelsen On 3/29/2012 5:50 PM, Donald R. Snow wrote: > I'm glad you are helping a Snow, David. We need all the help we can > get. :=) As you point out, there are many things we still can't do in > FSFT and combining and separating is one of them. Even in nFS I still > can't combine all the Erastus Snow records since they form too large a > group. When we can get rid of all the duplication in there, it will > make the problem much easier to solve. One of the things I'm trying to > do now is get the Summaries correct and separate out wrong relationships > so they don't show incorrectly in FSFT. I think we'll just have to wait > until later to fix some things so we can have a record "worthy of all > acceptation". > > Don Snow > > > On 3/29/2012 5:21 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Speaking to Don Snow. >> >> You haven't see those mass-merged records, have you? I found so many >> of them and still working to separate so many of them. This AFFECTS >> your Tree. I will be meeting with your cousin tonight and he is going >> to throw monkey wrench in your tree with his efforts to separate his >> Snow line (Gardner Snow line.) >> >> I tried to fix one of my ancestors via Family Tree. NO CAN DO! There >> isn't a way to separate wrong persons OUT of my ancestor. Only in nFS >> and I checked with admin about it. It's only in nFS to do that. >> >> I had Thomas French combined with Richard Bartlett, Thomas Wyatt, >> William Cole, etc as single person. The combined record was of more >> than 6,000 records, 3/4 wrong. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >>> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? >>> I am with Michele. >>> >>> Steve Kelsey >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >>> To:<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >>> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >>> >>> >>>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >>>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >>>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >>>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >>>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >>>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >>>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >>>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >>>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >>>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >>>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >>>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >>>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >>>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >>>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >>>> >>>> Don Snow >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>>>> lot of >>>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>>>> >>>>> Michele >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>> >>>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>>>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>>>> >>>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>>>> place instead of nFS. >>>>> >>>>> David Samuelsen >>>>> >>>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>>>> Very handy. >>>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>>>> Is that still the plan? >>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the >>>>> subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >>>> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >> >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Speaking to Don Snow. You haven't see those mass-merged records, have you? I found so many of them and still working to separate so many of them. This AFFECTS your Tree. I will be meeting with your cousin tonight and he is going to throw monkey wrench in your tree with his efforts to separate his Snow line (Gardner Snow line.) I tried to fix one of my ancestors via Family Tree. NO CAN DO! There isn't a way to separate wrong persons OUT of my ancestor. Only in nFS and I checked with admin about it. It's only in nFS to do that. I had Thomas French combined with Richard Bartlett, Thomas Wyatt, William Cole, etc as single person. The combined record was of more than 6,000 records, 3/4 wrong. David Samuelsen > I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? > I am with Michele. > > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald R. Snow" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >> >> Don Snow >> >> >> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>> lot of >>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>> >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>> >>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>> place instead of nFS. >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>> Very handy. >>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>> Is that still the plan? >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the >>> subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

I'm in Southern California and I can see it. Go to "See Me and My Ancestors" and use the pull down tab on the toolbar titled "Change View." Choose Family Tree. Michele In a message dated 3/29/2012 2:09:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Family search family tree is not available everywhere. They are still in Beta Testing. I just checked to see if I can access it here in CA. It is not available here. I am patiently waiting for it here. It was made available to a select group or market for testing. per the help on familysearch. Kathy CA Sent from my iPhone. On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Steve Kelsey <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? > I am with Michele. > > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald R. Snow" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >> >> Don Snow >> >> >> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>> lot of >>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>> >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>> >>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>> place instead of nFS. >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>> Very handy. >>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>> Is that still the plan? >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the >>> subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry...I set this apart from the rest... The legacy problems will be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. Could you expand on how that will affect ordinances "in progress" both those in limbo since NFS was introduced and those currently submitted and progressing. Michele In a message dated 3/29/2012 3:08:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Michele, nothing is highlighted below so I don't know what you are asking, but I don't know anything about already submitted ordinances. You might check the FamilySearch Family Tree Users Guide that they posted online last week to see if they say anything about it there. Don Snow On 3/29/2012 3:04 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Wait ..do you mean (see highlighted below) unfinished/in progress > ordinances already submitted through NewFamily Search will be erased too? Or more > clearly, go back to Ready? > > Michele > > > From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. > > > The legacy problems will >> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. > > > As I understand it the old >> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >> > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Again Michele, I don't know anything about what they will do with the ordinances, but I'm sure that ordinance cards printed but not completed yet will be fine. And I imagine they will do something about the ordinances that have been "in progress" for years, since they know that's a problem. I just haven't heard anything about what they plan to do on those. Don Snow On 3/29/2012 5:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Sorry...I set this apart from the rest... > > > The legacy problems will > be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's > in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. > > Could you expand on how that will affect ordinances "in progress" both > those in limbo since NFS was introduced and those currently submitted and > progressing. > > Michele > > > > In a message dated 3/29/2012 3:08:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Michele, nothing is highlighted below so I don't know what you are > asking, but I don't know anything about already submitted ordinances. > You might check the FamilySearch Family Tree Users Guide that they > posted online last week to see if they say anything about it there. > > Don Snow > > > On 3/29/2012 3:04 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Wait ..do you mean (see highlighted below) unfinished/in progress >> ordinances already submitted through NewFamily Search will be erased > too? Or more >> clearly, go back to Ready? >> >> Michele >> >> >> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >> >> >>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. >> >> The legacy problems will >>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. >> >> As I understand it the old >>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an > LDS >>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >>> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -- Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah - [email protected]

I'm glad you are helping a Snow, David. We need all the help we can get. :=) As you point out, there are many things we still can't do in FSFT and combining and separating is one of them. Even in nFS I still can't combine all the Erastus Snow records since they form too large a group. When we can get rid of all the duplication in there, it will make the problem much easier to solve. One of the things I'm trying to do now is get the Summaries correct and separate out wrong relationships so they don't show incorrectly in FSFT. I think we'll just have to wait until later to fix some things so we can have a record "worthy of all acceptation". Don Snow On 3/29/2012 5:21 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Speaking to Don Snow. > > You haven't see those mass-merged records, have you? I found so many > of them and still working to separate so many of them. This AFFECTS > your Tree. I will be meeting with your cousin tonight and he is going > to throw monkey wrench in your tree with his efforts to separate his > Snow line (Gardner Snow line.) > > I tried to fix one of my ancestors via Family Tree. NO CAN DO! There > isn't a way to separate wrong persons OUT of my ancestor. Only in nFS > and I checked with admin about it. It's only in nFS to do that. > > I had Thomas French combined with Richard Bartlett, Thomas Wyatt, > William Cole, etc as single person. The combined record was of more > than 6,000 records, 3/4 wrong. > > David Samuelsen > >> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? >> I am with Michele. >> >> Steve Kelsey >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >> >> >>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >>> >>> Don Snow >>> >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>>> lot of >>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>>> >>>> Michele >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>>> >>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>>> place instead of nFS. >>>> >>>> David Samuelsen >>>> >>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>>> Very handy. >>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>>> Is that still the plan? >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the >>>> subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> -- >>> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >>> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah - [email protected]

Wait ..do you mean (see highlighted below) unfinished/in progress ordinances already submitted through NewFamily Search will be erased too? Or more clearly, go back to Ready? Michele From: "Donald R. Snow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can > enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much > easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the > item and make the change. And you can change things that others have > submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) > from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will > be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's > in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old > AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be > in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs > correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. > There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm > really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see > sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS > Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >

Oh, I thought the note they sent last week was so anyone with an LDS account could sign on and see the database through FamilySearch. I've been using it for the last several months as a tester, but I thought that now it was available to anyone with an LDS account that wanted to try it out. Here's the link to the sign up page, if you want to try and see if it works. The note doesn't say anything about it being limited to any area. http://familysearch.org/invite/familytree_tab <http://familysearch.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b0de542dc933cfcb848d187ea&id=4a09d21895&e=ed0b7156e5> Once you have signed in on this site, then when you go to FamilySearch.org and sign in with your LDS account, you see a new tab "Family Tree" next to the FamilySearch logo and that takes you to the new view of the nFS database. You only have to sign up on this "invite" screen once, but then whenever you want to work on your data in this view, you sign in on FamilySearch with your LDS account. The old view (new.familysearch.org) still works and gets you to the same database and changes made in one show up in the other, except, as we discovered last week, sources don't show in the old view anymore. ** Don Snow On 3/29/2012 3:08 PM, Kathy Shipley wrote: > Family search family tree is not available everywhere. They are still in Beta Testing. I just checked to see if I can access it here in CA. It is not available here. I am patiently waiting for it here. It was made available to a select group or market for testing. per the help on familysearch. > > Kathy > CA > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Steve Kelsey<[email protected]> wrote: > >> I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? >> I am with Michele. >> >> Steve Kelsey >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? >> >> >>> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >>> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >>> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >>> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >>> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >>> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >>> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >>> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >>> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >>> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >>> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >>> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >>> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >>> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >>> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >>> >>> Don Snow >>> >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>>> lot of >>>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>>> >>>> Michele >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>>> >>>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>>> place instead of nFS. >>>> >>>> David Samuelsen >>>> >>>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>>> Very handy. >>>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>>> Is that still the plan? >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the >>>> subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> -- >>> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >>> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah - [email protected]

Michele, nothing is highlighted below so I don't know what you are asking, but I don't know anything about already submitted ordinances. You might check the FamilySearch Family Tree Users Guide that they posted online last week to see if they say anything about it there. Don Snow On 3/29/2012 3:04 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Wait ..do you mean (see highlighted below) unfinished/in progress > ordinances already submitted through NewFamily Search will be erased too? Or more > clearly, go back to Ready? > > Michele > > > From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. > > > The legacy problems will >> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. > > > As I understand it the old >> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >> > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah - [email protected]

Have you tried adding a source and/or a URL to document the data? Or link to a photo or to an image of the document? Or have you tried editing in FSFT? Or just navigating around in the database? I used to be with Michele, but I'm not anymore. But not everyone likes things the way I do, so use what works for you. Don Snow On 3/29/2012 2:40 PM, Steve Kelsey wrote: > I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? > I am with Michele. > > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald R. Snow"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >> >> Don Snow >> >> >> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>> lot of >>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>> >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>> >>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>> place instead of nFS. >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>> Very handy. >>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>> Is that still the plan? >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the >>> subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> -- >> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah - [email protected]

I think there is some misunderstanding and confusion regarding the term "Family Tree" as I look through the entries for today. There is one "Family Tree" available as a view option through new.familysearch.org. This one is only a different way of viewing the things in new.familysearch.org and making changes within the current new.familysearch.org And there is another "Family Tree" available through familysearch.org (not new.familysearch.org) that is available only for beta testing now. The one that is available for beta testing is the one in which you can add sources with links to images on the web. And where you are asked to give a "justification" for your changes. And where anyone can edit anyone's information regardless of who entered the information. A lot of great new options to really cleaning up the issues in the current new.familysearch.org! Ron Tanner did a presentation on it at RootsTech and it was assuming to see! The video presentation will be made available on rootstech.org at some future time according to their web site. Hope that helps! Tamara Stevenson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Digest, Vol 7, Issue 81 Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] If you prefer the digest version, use a D instead of the L in the request address. Please remember to restrict the size of your post. Today's Topics: 1. Re: FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? (W David Samuelsen) 2. Re: FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? ([email protected]) 3. Re: FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? (Donald R. Snow) 4. Re: FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? (Shanna Jones) 5. Re: FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? (Steve Kelsey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:19:45 -0600 From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but they won't see ordinances at all. The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this place instead of nFS. David Samuelsen On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: > Very handy. > I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar > nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That > access will then be via the tree. > Is that still the plan? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:30:21 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a lot of stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. Michele

Thank all of you for updating changes with nFS & FS. I've been indexing exclusively for some time & need your discussion to share with our Ward members. Appreciate Jackie/Thousand Oaks [email protected] >

I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? I am with Michele. Steve Kelsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald R. Snow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can > enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much > easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the > item and make the change. And you can change things that others have > submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) > from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will > be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's > in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old > AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be > in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs > correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. > There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm > really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see > sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS > Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. > > Don Snow > > > On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >> lot of >> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >> >> Michele >> >> >> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >> they won't see ordinances at all. >> >> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >> place instead of nFS. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>> Very handy. >>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>> access will then be via the tree. >>> Is that still the plan? >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young > University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Family search family tree is not available everywhere. They are still in Beta Testing. I just checked to see if I can access it here in CA. It is not available here. I am patiently waiting for it here. It was made available to a select group or market for testing. per the help on familysearch. Kathy CA Sent from my iPhone. On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Steve Kelsey <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess I don't see and appreciate all these "wonderful" improvements? > I am with Michele. > > Steve Kelsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald R. Snow" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] FS Family Tree live on FamilySearch? > > >> Michele, regarding FamilySearch Family Tree, I really like how you can >> enter sources now and even URL's for sources. And FS FT is soooo much >> easier to edit than nfS. You just click on the pencil in front of the >> item and make the change. And you can change things that others have >> submitted so you can get it correct without all the rigamarole (sp?) >> from nFS. I think it's a great step forward. The legacy problems will >> be taken care of when they make the final switchover since only what's >> in the Summary in nFS will be carried over. As I understand it the old >> AF, PRF, etc., will be available in the Trees part of FS, but won't be >> in FS FT unless it was in the Summary. Then we can correct what needs >> correcting without having a hundred wrong copies of stuff in there. >> There are obviously many more things that remain to be done, but I'm >> really pleased with what they've got done so far. BTW, you can't see >> sources in nFS at all now. It directs you to FS FT. Anyone with an LDS >> Account can sign up to get to FS FT now. >> >> Don Snow >> >> >> On 3/29/2012 10:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd >>> spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a >>> lot of >>> stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. >>> >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> [email protected]co.com writes: >>> >>> no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS >>> will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing >>> and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but >>> they won't see ordinances at all. >>> >>> The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of >>> church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this >>> place instead of nFS. >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: >>>> Very handy. >>>> I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar >>>> nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That >>>> access will then be via the tree. >>>> Is that still the plan? >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the >>> subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young >> University, Provo, Utah - [email protected] >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone else find the tree version to be annoying? I wish they'd spent their energy fixing the ordinances errors, legacy problems, and a lot of stuff instead of dolling up something that was working okay. Michele In a message dated 3/29/2012 9:20:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: no. still with us. The Family Tree is the PUBLIC front for all. nFS will continue to be available to the members of church only for fixing and repairs, etc and available to non-members by invitation only but they won't see ordinances at all. The Family Tree that's up front will show ordinances for members of church and not show for non-members. Ordinances will be done from this place instead of nFS. David Samuelsen On 3/29/2012 9:48 AM, Tom Kemp wrote: > Very handy. > I had heard that once the Tree format is in place that the familiar > nFS approach that we have been using will be phased out/removed. That > access will then be via the tree. > Is that still the plan? Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message