What page numbers do you have problems with? I just started with page 4 that you list here and went to page 12 without any problems. Perhaps it is just taking a long time for your computer to paint the page? Is the little wheel still moving when you get the black? If you have a slower connection, it could just be taking longer for the new data to appear in which case you would just need to be patient or do something else while you wait. Nancy Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Gibert Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 02:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] help opening a document I have been trying to look at Mississippi records and sometime I will see a page or two and then the pages come in black, am I doing something wrong? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21942-52915-74?cc=1919687&wc=1 3646939 Thanks Nancy Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I tried and was able to pull up several pages. They seem to be large files and do take some time to load (~5-7 seconds) for my high speed internet. Maybe they are timing out for you? Miles On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Nancy Gibert <[email protected]>wrote: > I have been trying to look at Mississippi records and sometime I will see > a page or two and then the pages come in black, am I doing something wrong? > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21942-52915-74?cc=1919687&wc=13646939 > Thanks > Nancy > > >

I have been trying to look at Mississippi records and sometime I will see a page or two and then the pages come in black, am I doing something wrong? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21942-52915-74?cc=1919687&wc=13646939 Thanks Nancy

I asked them to separate two people a few months ago who I could not separate; one was the niece of the other and named after her, and their fathers had the same first and last names with a different middle name, since one was named after the other. I did not mind them asking for proof since it was a confusing situation to begin with; and since spending about 20 min in familysearch.org provided several censuses and two death certificates that I should have gotten anyway. I think they are training us for FamilySearch Family Tree; when sources will become the determining factor, as it should be, on straightening things out. I have been told by FamilySearch missionaries that if we get into Family Tree now and add sources, and make a case for what we know is true, it will be very difficult for people to mess up the record in the future. Doris Bateman > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 03:03:17 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) > > > > Michele, They only gave you examples one form of proof, that you might have such as a census record or even personal information of yourself or another relative that knew her. There are so many messed up records that they are just asking about your relationship before they make any changes. It should be fairly easy to find a census showing the children of this individual and leading to your grandparents and down to at least your parents. These are not demands, but simple request of proof of relationship. I have been in the sealing room when they only have submitted Mr Brown and children Master Brown, Miss Brown etc and all born in the 1800s, which is sloppy research. > > If you have a copy of a census with their names on it, just scan, attach to email with your Case number on it and send it. Hope this helps. > > Betty Jo Colbert > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 7:20:52 PM > Subject: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) > > Have you folks run into this sort of buzz saw of demands? (See below) I > wrote Family Search asking them to remove the submitter "Family Search" from > a name I submitted in 2007 for the sealing to parents ordinance (baptism > and endowment were complete) and that had been in limbo since then. > > This person was born in 1862 and descends from a common ancestor of mine. > > Isn't it a little bit of overkill to ask for jpgs of records...some of > which don't even exist like birth certificates in 1862, or personal knowledge > of a close family member (150 years ago?) I am technically capable of this > and will comply, but 90% of church members would walk away from this. > > I have asked for similar release of names so I could complete temple work > and never received this kind of reply. Seems like overkill in the worst, > most discouraging way. > > Michele > > > > ____________________________________ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: 6/1/2012 6:46:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time > Subj: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) > > > Dear Sister Brooks, > Case 2628538 > Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We will be happy to help you with > your question regarding Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B. We > signed in as your helper and replicated the problem. We will need to forward > your request to another department. They will require additional information. > What is your relationship to Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B? > > We appreciate your diligence in maintaining accurate family history > records. In order to help us further assist you with your request for your > ancestor, we ask that you send us official documentation or proof. Examples of > documentation that proves your correction are: your personal knowledge, or the > knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual, Census records > that show the family over time, a birth certificate that shows a child > with the correct parents, or any other record that shows the correct > relationships between family members. > > The preferred method for sending documentation is to scan the document and > attach it to your reply e-mail. Please save the image as a JPG or GIF > file. To ensure it comes directly to us, please be sure to use your e-mail > reply function instead of creating a new e-mail, and please include the case > number 2628538, in the subject line. > > We look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. We will > forward your case as soon as we hear from you. > > Sincerely, > > FamilySearch > Patron and Partner Services > [email protected] > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A sister in our stake had a problem with one woman - her 2 husbands all of a sudden were together in one. She erroneously had combined them. The problem was to find the way to uncombine and isolating. In her case it was kind of simple but where a number of people have combined in various ways and with wrong genders it is more complicated. I had one case where one sister had submitted a husband as wife and wife as husband and added 4 of their 8 children to this odd couple. I did all the un combining I could and then I asked SLC for assistance on correcting the gender of the couple. Then finally I could get all the children together witn their correct counterparts. I do not know if this is a help in this case - but un-combining has been a solution to many of the problems I have encountered. Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne af Karen Tippets Sendt: 2. juni 2012 23:17 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Requirements for Corrections While we're on the subject, I want to kick a female out of the family who was submitted by somebody whose email is no longer valid. She has a male name according to this person, but I have extensive info on the male by the same name in the family, and the marriage info is there, with the kids and appropriate temple work has been done. Am I going to have to put a dispute on her, or is there another way to remove the mythical female from the family since I can't contact the submitter? There's certainly no reason to waste time doing temple work for her. Karen

I'm not an authority, but I am an assistant director of our local Family History Center and was invoved in launching the program in our stake. What we're doing is asking ward members to give our Family History Center director a list of names they've submitted for Temple Ordinances. It's voluntary, of course! It's just a way to keep a tally so we'll know when our "sister stake beyond the veil" is populated. We know how many members are in each ward and the total for the stake, so the goal is to encourage each ward to contribute at least one temple submission for each living member of the stake. To the best of my knowledge, it's not new rules or demands from SLC -- just an interesting program to help motivate members to become more involved in family history & temple work. I'm excited and pleased about it being in place and am looking forward to some improvement in member involvement. Lois Carlyine Ritter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Cowley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Your stake in Heaven > Thank you to those who responded regarding "Your Stake in Heaven." How > did > the stake get its count? I heard once we weren't supposed to ask people > for > attendance/contribution numbers. Was it voluntary? Jerry >

Our ward did that several years ago--creating a "ward" in heaven, in an attempt to get more folks doing family history and Temple work. Karen On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Carly Charter <[email protected]>wrote: > Yes, my stake (Coos Bay Oregon) is currently involved in this program. The > goal is to take at least as many names as there are living members in the > stake through the temple before the end of this year. It's kind of along > the same idea as when a city has a sister city in another country. Only > our > stake's "sister city" is beyond the veil. The idea is to populate it with > dead ancestors. Make sense? > Lois Carlyine Ritter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Cowley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:31 AM > Subject: [LDS-WC] Your Stake in Heaven > > > > Anyone know anything about a program called "your stake in heaven?" or > > something like that? > > > > Thanks, > > Jerry > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature > > database 7189 (20120602) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5038 - Release Date: 06/01/12 > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just one!

Thank you to those who responded regarding "Your Stake in Heaven." How did the stake get its count? I heard once we weren't supposed to ask people for attendance/contribution numbers. Was it voluntary? Jerry

I think that to make changes that FamilySearch has come up with a "form" sort of reply. It is not perfect but it works for the most part. Because some research has been done poorly with little actual documentation, I believe that they need to ask for whatever you can provide before they make the changes. I really want nFS to become something that will be acceptable to Heavenly Father. There is so much to do and also perfecting of the Saints in cooperation of working together with the Spirit. I had a situation similar to this and was able to come up with the data, though I am not sure exactly how. I believe there was help from the other side showing me where the records were. I was amazed I could find them. It was a change that I made helping a member who had done the work poorly and another relative who was not checking sources before reserving work. I managed to keep unnecessary and incorrect ordinances from being done by the process which would have not happened before nFS. There are programs that will convert into jpgs and this is where Family History Consultants can be available to help others in their Wards. JPGs work well for almost all operating systems and have less problems with associated with possible virus so it makes sense to me that they are preferring that format. Nancy Scott

Anyone know anything about a program called "your stake in heaven?" or something like that? Thanks, Jerry __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7189 (20120602) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Yes, my stake (Coos Bay Oregon) is currently involved in this program. The goal is to take at least as many names as there are living members in the stake through the temple before the end of this year. It's kind of along the same idea as when a city has a sister city in another country. Only our stake's "sister city" is beyond the veil. The idea is to populate it with dead ancestors. Make sense? Lois Carlyine Ritter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Cowley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: [LDS-WC] Your Stake in Heaven > Anyone know anything about a program called "your stake in heaven?" or > something like that? > > Thanks, > Jerry > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 7189 (20120602) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5038 - Release Date: 06/01/12 >

I think you are getting the backlash of others that have not done the work as thoroughly as you have.  They have had some horrendous problems lately with people doing the work for others not related, so they are probably over cautious because of that. Good luck, I hope you get it straightened out. BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: lds-ward-consultan[email protected] Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 10:31:41 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Yes, I did all those things.  But this was the FIRST time I've been  asked for such detail when NFS is the one in error.  There were names,  places, dates for several generations (no sloppy research) each way on  NFS...and half the work was already done.   Overkill.   Michele         In a message dated 6/1/2012 10:04:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,   [email protected] writes: Michele,  They only gave you  examples one form  of proof, that you might have such as a  census record or even  personal information of yourself or another relative that knew her.   There are so many messed up records that they are just asking about your  relationship  before they make any changes.   It should be fairly  easy to find a census showing the children of this individual and leading to  your grandparents and down to at least your parents.   These are not  demands, but simple request of proof of relationship. I have been in the  sealing room when they only have submitted Mr Brown and children Master Brown,  Miss Brown etc and all born in the 1800s, which is sloppy research.   If you have a copy of a census with their names on it, just scan,  attach to email with your Case number on it and send it. Hope this helps.   Betty Jo Colbert   ----- Original Message  ----- From: [email protected] To:  [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 7:20:52 PM   Subject: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Have  you folks run into this sort of buzz saw of demands?  (See  below) I   wrote Family Search asking them to remove the submitter "Family  Search" from a name I submitted in 2007  for the sealing to  parents  ordinance (baptism and endowment were complete) and that had  been in limbo since  then. This person was born in 1862  and descends from a common ancestor of  mine. Isn't it a  little bit of overkill to ask for jpgs of records...some of   which  don't even exist like birth certificates in 1862, or personal knowledge of  a close family member (150 years ago?)  I am technically capable of   this   and will comply, but 90% of church members would walk away  from this. I have asked for similar release of names so I could  complete temple work     and never received this kind of reply.  Seems like overkill in the worst,   most discouraging way.   Michele ____________________________________ From:  [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 6/1/2012  6:46:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Reference: ordinances  (CaseID:2628538) Dear Sister Brooks, Case 2628538   Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We will be happy to help you with   your question regarding Irena Waterbury Person identifier:  9JCH-S6B. We signed  in as your helper and replicated the problem. We  will need to forward your  request to another department. They will  require additional information. What  is your relationship to Irena  Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B?    We appreciate your  diligence in maintaining accurate family history   records. In order  to help us further assist you with your request for your    ancestor,  we ask that you send us official documentation or proof. Examples of     documentation that proves your correction are: your personal knowledge, or   the knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual,  Census records that show the family over time, a birth certificate  that shows a child with  the correct parents, or any other record  that shows the correct relationships  between family members.   The preferred method for sending documentation  is to scan the  document and attach it to your reply e-mail. Please save the  image  as a JPG or GIF file. To ensure it comes directly to us, please be sure  to use your e-mail reply function instead of creating a new e-mail,  and please  include the case number 2628538, in the subject line.   We look forward  to hearing from you at your earliest  convenience. 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Michele,  They only gave you  examples one form  of proof, that you might have such as a  census record or even personal information of yourself or another relative that knew her.  There are so many messed up records that they are just asking about your relationship  before they make any changes.  It should be fairly easy to find a census showing the children of this individual and leading to your grandparents and down to at least your parents.  These are not demands, but simple request of proof of relationship. I have been in the sealing room when they only have submitted Mr Brown and children Master Brown, Miss Brown etc and all born in the 1800s, which is sloppy research.  If you have a copy of a census with their names on it, just scan, attach to email with your Case number on it and send it. Hope this helps. Betty Jo Colbert  ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 7:20:52 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Have you folks run into this sort of buzz saw of demands?  (See  below) I wrote Family Search asking them to remove the submitter "Family  Search" from a name I submitted in 2007  for the sealing to parents  ordinance (baptism and endowment were complete) and that had been in limbo since  then.   This person was born in 1862 and descends from a common ancestor of  mine.   Isn't it a little bit of overkill to ask for jpgs of records...some of   which don't even exist like birth certificates in 1862, or personal knowledge of  a close family member (150 years ago?)  I am technically capable of this   and will comply, but 90% of church members would walk away from this.   I have asked for similar release of names so I could complete temple work   and never received this kind of reply.  Seems like overkill in the worst,   most discouraging way.   Michele        ____________________________________  From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 6/1/2012  6:46:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Reference: ordinances  (CaseID:2628538) Dear Sister Brooks, Case 2628538 Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We will be happy to help you with   your question regarding Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B. We signed  in as your helper and replicated the problem. We will need to forward your  request to another department. They will require additional information. What  is your relationship to Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B?   We appreciate your diligence in maintaining accurate family history   records. In order to help us further assist you with your request for your   ancestor, we ask that you send us official documentation or proof. Examples of   documentation that proves your correction are: your personal knowledge, or the  knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual, Census records  that show the family over time, a birth certificate that shows a child with  the correct parents, or any other record that shows the correct relationships  between family members. The preferred method for sending documentation  is to scan the document and attach it to your reply e-mail. Please save the  image as a JPG or GIF file. To ensure it comes directly to us, please be sure  to use your e-mail reply function instead of creating a new e-mail, and please  include the case number 2628538, in the subject line. We look forward  to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. We will forward your case as  soon as we hear from you. Sincerely, FamilySearch Patron and Partner Services   [email protected] Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I did all those things. But this was the FIRST time I've been asked for such detail when NFS is the one in error. There were names, places, dates for several generations (no sloppy research) each way on NFS...and half the work was already done. Overkill. Michele In a message dated 6/1/2012 10:04:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Michele, They only gave you examples one form of proof, that you might have such as a census record or even personal information of yourself or another relative that knew her. There are so many messed up records that they are just asking about your relationship before they make any changes. It should be fairly easy to find a census showing the children of this individual and leading to your grandparents and down to at least your parents. These are not demands, but simple request of proof of relationship. I have been in the sealing room when they only have submitted Mr Brown and children Master Brown, Miss Brown etc and all born in the 1800s, which is sloppy research. If you have a copy of a census with their names on it, just scan, attach to email with your Case number on it and send it. Hope this helps. Betty Jo Colbert ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 7:20:52 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Have you folks run into this sort of buzz saw of demands? (See below) I wrote Family Search asking them to remove the submitter "Family Search" from a name I submitted in 2007 for the sealing to parents ordinance (baptism and endowment were complete) and that had been in limbo since then. This person was born in 1862 and descends from a common ancestor of mine. Isn't it a little bit of overkill to ask for jpgs of records...some of which don't even exist like birth certificates in 1862, or personal knowledge of a close family member (150 years ago?) I am technically capable of this and will comply, but 90% of church members would walk away from this. I have asked for similar release of names so I could complete temple work and never received this kind of reply. Seems like overkill in the worst, most discouraging way. Michele ____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 6/1/2012 6:46:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Dear Sister Brooks, Case 2628538 Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We will be happy to help you with your question regarding Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B. We signed in as your helper and replicated the problem. We will need to forward your request to another department. They will require additional information. What is your relationship to Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B? We appreciate your diligence in maintaining accurate family history records. In order to help us further assist you with your request for your ancestor, we ask that you send us official documentation or proof. Examples of documentation that proves your correction are: your personal knowledge, or the knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual, Census records that show the family over time, a birth certificate that shows a child with the correct parents, or any other record that shows the correct relationships between family members. The preferred method for sending documentation is to scan the document and attach it to your reply e-mail. Please save the image as a JPG or GIF file. To ensure it comes directly to us, please be sure to use your e-mail reply function instead of creating a new e-mail, and please include the case number 2628538, in the subject line. We look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. We will forward your case as soon as we hear from you. Sincerely, FamilySearch Patron and Partner Services [email protected] Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I went through this and made very sharp rebukes and they gave in, 2 months ago. 1862? That's overkill David Samuelsen On 6/1/2012 8:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Have you folks run into this sort of buzz saw of demands? (See below) I > wrote Family Search asking them to remove the submitter "Family Search" from > a name I submitted in 2007 for the sealing to parents ordinance (baptism > and endowment were complete) and that had been in limbo since then. > > This person was born in 1862 and descends from a common ancestor of mine. > > Isn't it a little bit of overkill to ask for jpgs of records...some of > which don't even exist like birth certificates in 1862, or personal knowledge > of a close family member (150 years ago?) I am technically capable of this > and will comply, but 90% of church members would walk away from this. > > I have asked for similar release of names so I could complete temple work > and never received this kind of reply. Seems like overkill in the worst, > most discouraging way. > > Michele > > > > ____________________________________ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: 6/1/2012 6:46:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time > Subj: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) > > > Dear Sister Brooks, > Case 2628538 > Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We will be happy to help you with > your question regarding Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B. We > signed in as your helper and replicated the problem. We will need to forward > your request to another department. They will require additional information. > What is your relationship to Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B? > > We appreciate your diligence in maintaining accurate family history > records. In order to help us further assist you with your request for your > ancestor, we ask that you send us official documentation or proof. Examples of > documentation that proves your correction are: your personal knowledge, or the > knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual, Census records > that show the family over time, a birth certificate that shows a child > with the correct parents, or any other record that shows the correct > relationships between family members. > > The preferred method for sending documentation is to scan the document and > attach it to your reply e-mail. Please save the image as a JPG or GIF > file. To ensure it comes directly to us, please be sure to use your e-mail > reply function instead of creating a new e-mail, and please include the case > number 2628538, in the subject line. > > We look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. We will > forward your case as soon as we hear from you. > > Sincerely, > > FamilySearch > Patron and Partner Services > [email protected] > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

[email protected] said: Have you folks run into this sort of buzz saw of demands? (See below) I wrote Family Search asking them to remove the submitter "Family Search" from a name I submitted in 2007 for the sealing to parents ordinance (baptism and endowment were complete) and that had been in limbo since then. This person was born in 1862 and descends from a common ancestor of mine. Isn't it a little bit of overkill to ask for jpgs of records...some of which don't even exist like birth certificates in 1862, or personal knowledge of a close family member (150 years ago?) I am technically capable of this and will comply, but 90% of church members would walk away from this. I have asked for similar release of names so I could complete temple work and never received this kind of reply. Seems like overkill in the worst, most discouraging way. Karen said: Yes, they do ask me for proof in the form of Jpg's and also my relationship to the individual. I have protested this (mildly) since if something is wrong , *and* I have proof, then what difference does it make what my relationship is? I also transcribe most of my records and don't have them in jpg - which I tell them, and they accept the transcription. It is my opinion that this is a bit of overkill. However, if they will fix the error, I will tell them my relationship and give them the proof. Of course, it didn't take either of those things to enter a mistake into NFS. Many times I have written to individuals to ask them to correct errors they made in a temple submission to NFS. Some are irritated. Some don't write me back. But mostly they are confused because they don't know how to correct it. Just dealing with the support staff requires some skill. Of course support is very nice and try to be helpful and I have respect for their efforts. But I think they are used to mostly explaining very simple things to individuals, and if there is something that is in error *and* there are completed ordinances involved - the case must go up the ladder to engineering. So unsophisticated or non-genealogists don't have jpg's of their info and can't express that Joe Jones is their 2rd cousin once removed. Yes, correcting errors in NFS is very difficult, and confusing. Karen

Have you folks run into this sort of buzz saw of demands? (See below) I wrote Family Search asking them to remove the submitter "Family Search" from a name I submitted in 2007 for the sealing to parents ordinance (baptism and endowment were complete) and that had been in limbo since then. This person was born in 1862 and descends from a common ancestor of mine. Isn't it a little bit of overkill to ask for jpgs of records...some of which don't even exist like birth certificates in 1862, or personal knowledge of a close family member (150 years ago?) I am technically capable of this and will comply, but 90% of church members would walk away from this. I have asked for similar release of names so I could complete temple work and never received this kind of reply. Seems like overkill in the worst, most discouraging way. Michele ____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 6/1/2012 6:46:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Dear Sister Brooks, Case 2628538 Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. We will be happy to help you with your question regarding Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B. We signed in as your helper and replicated the problem. We will need to forward your request to another department. They will require additional information. What is your relationship to Irena Waterbury Person identifier: 9JCH-S6B? We appreciate your diligence in maintaining accurate family history records. In order to help us further assist you with your request for your ancestor, we ask that you send us official documentation or proof. Examples of documentation that proves your correction are: your personal knowledge, or the knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual, Census records that show the family over time, a birth certificate that shows a child with the correct parents, or any other record that shows the correct relationships between family members. The preferred method for sending documentation is to scan the document and attach it to your reply e-mail. Please save the image as a JPG or GIF file. To ensure it comes directly to us, please be sure to use your e-mail reply function instead of creating a new e-mail, and please include the case number 2628538, in the subject line. We look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. We will forward your case as soon as we hear from you. Sincerely, FamilySearch Patron and Partner Services [email protected]

Thanks David. Then I guess I have to write a snailmail letter instead of an e-mail. :) Helle -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne af W David Samuelsen Sendt: 28. maj 2012 07:41 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [LDS-WC] Thomsen's Genealogical center in Bountiful still in business 833 W 3600 S, Bountiful, UT 84010 801-294-5105 On 5/25/2012 4:44 PM, Helle T. Hirschmann wrote: > Any of you on this list that know if this above mentioned center still is in > operation and how I get in touch with the owner? > (Finn A. Thomsen) > > I have continuously over the last few moths sought for an e-mail address or > other means of contacting him, but do not know if he still has the shop. > > I need some info about some of the books he has published earlier. > > Thanks > > Str. Helle Hirschmann > Slagelse ward > Denmark Copenhagen stake > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found that this week many many names which have been sitting in limbo for five years and accredited for submission by Family Search are now showing a green arrow. I have been able to re-reserve and finish these names which went into limbo at the switch to NFS. Michele

still in business 833 W 3600 S, Bountiful, UT 84010 801-294-5105 On 5/25/2012 4:44 PM, Helle T. Hirschmann wrote: > Any of you on this list that know if this above mentioned center still is in > operation and how I get in touch with the owner? > (Finn A. Thomsen) > > I have continuously over the last few moths sought for an e-mail address or > other means of contacting him, but do not know if he still has the shop. > > I need some info about some of the books he has published earlier. > > Thanks > > Str. Helle Hirschmann > Slagelse ward > Denmark Copenhagen stake > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >