Two things have happened with my names. 1. If I have the cards and they are not listed in my temple file, I still have gone in and completed the names. They do show up after the ordinances have been done. 2. When I found I did not have the cards anymore, but know I submitted them, I went directly to the temple where I processed them and they were under my name. I had the cards reprinted there and then continued with the ordinances. On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > A similar thing happened when NFS went live in the temples and many names > were half completed and went to limbo. > > I made a spreadsheet of all the names, added the Personal Identification > Numbers and a date so another person could be sure. > > I wrote SL and forwarded the list and they were able to remove the "in > progress or "Family Search" over time. They are getting more attuned to > this > now than they were before. If there aren't hundreds of names, it might > get > done within a week or so. > > Once they were back at "ready" status, I just reserved them again and > either sent them to the temple file to complete or did them myself as I > wished. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/17/2012 1:45:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes: > > Hi, > > I know similar topics have been discussed, but I need a refresher if > someone would be so kind. > > I have a member that some years ago submitted through Temple Ready a > number > of ancestors for temple work. The baptisms were done but most of the rest > of the ordinances were not done at that time by the member. He wants to > continue where he left off. > > I gave him homework to do over the week: 1) see if he could find the cards > with the partially completed ordinances; 2) check on NFS and do any > combination that needs to be done before doing any further temple work, > then re-checking to see if work still needs to be done; 3) I also > discussed > claiming any of his prior Legacy Contributor submissions to Family Search > (I'll work further with him on that). > > So my question to you is: Assuming after all the above, NFS shows the work > still not done, and he can't find his original cards, and that it is "In > Progress" or "Reserved", presumably originally by him (but not on his > Temple list) --- How does he reclaim the Temple Submissions (done under > Temple Ready) so he can now continue the work? > > thanks, > > -- > Dan Taysom > [email protected] > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I know similar topics have been discussed, but I need a refresher if someone would be so kind. I have a member that some years ago submitted through Temple Ready a number of ancestors for temple work. The baptisms were done but most of the rest of the ordinances were not done at that time by the member. He wants to continue where he left off. I gave him homework to do over the week: 1) see if he could find the cards with the partially completed ordinances; 2) check on NFS and do any combination that needs to be done before doing any further temple work, then re-checking to see if work still needs to be done; 3) I also discussed claiming any of his prior Legacy Contributor submissions to Family Search (I'll work further with him on that). So my question to you is: Assuming after all the above, NFS shows the work still not done, and he can't find his original cards, and that it is "In Progress" or "Reserved", presumably originally by him (but not on his Temple list) --- How does he reclaim the Temple Submissions (done under Temple Ready) so he can now continue the work? thanks, -- Dan Taysom [email protected]

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Thanks people. I had combined the fathers and mothers last night but hadn't checked the ordinances for Martha after doing that. Hers show completed now. It has been awhile since I used nfs and I need to brush up on all the new things. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Problem with ordinance On 6/12/2012 4:44 AM, Gay Davis wrote: > I have a female who has had all her temple work done. On her individual screen it shows the temple work done. However, on the family screen it shows that she needs SP which is already done. How do I correct this? > > See KFGY-3CK Martha Ashton, dau of Sidney Ashton and Eliza Downs > > Thx. > > Gay Davis > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Dear Gay, These problems are most often caused by there being multiple parents. In your case, there are three sets of parents for your Martha Ashton. If you combine the parents, it will most likely resolve the SP reporting problem. See KD 102831. Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you checked for a "duplicate" entry on her? Jacque I have a female who has had all her temple work done. On her individual > screen it shows the temple work done. However, on the family screen it > shows that she needs SP which is already done. How do I correct this? > > See KFGY-3CK Martha Ashton, dau of Sidney Ashton and Eliza Downs > > Thx. > > Gay Davis > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 6/12/2012 4:44 AM, Gay Davis wrote: > I have a female who has had all her temple work done. On her individual screen it shows the temple work done. However, on the family screen it shows that she needs SP which is already done. How do I correct this? > > See KFGY-3CK Martha Ashton, dau of Sidney Ashton and Eliza Downs > > Thx. > > Gay Davis > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Dear Gay, These problems are most often caused by there being multiple parents. In your case, there are three sets of parents for your Martha Ashton. If you combine the parents, it will most likely resolve the SP reporting problem. See KD 102831.

HI Gay, It looks like there are duplicate father's. Do you see the little asterisk next to the father's name on the pedigree chart. If you click that, then there are tabs to "resolve duplicate father". Once you combine those records then the family screen should show the temple ordinance complete. Here is the document that explains: https://new.familysearch.org/help/viewdocument?documentId=1012486&sliceId=&userQuery=combining+duplicate+father I hope that helps you. Cindy Price On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6/12/2012 4:44 AM, Gay Davis wrote: > > I have a female who has had all her temple work done. On her individual > screen it shows the temple work done. However, on the family screen it > shows that she needs SP which is already done. How do I correct this? > > > > See KFGY-3CK Martha Ashton, dau of Sidney Ashton and Eliza Downs > > > > Thx. > > > > Gay Davis > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Dear Gay, > > These problems are most often caused by there being multiple parents. > In your case, there are three sets of parents for your Martha Ashton. > If you combine the parents, it will most likely resolve the SP reporting > problem. See KD 102831. > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a female who has had all her temple work done. On her individual screen it shows the temple work done. However, on the family screen it shows that she needs SP which is already done. How do I correct this? See KFGY-3CK Martha Ashton, dau of Sidney Ashton and Eliza Downs Thx. Gay Davis

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We are doing this in our stake. After completing ordinances, we are instructed to enter the information onto a stake website. We are also encouraged to enter in any thoughts or feelings we may have about having the ordinance performed, or during researching the person. I haven't asked the stake president to see how many names have been completed. I am hoping it will generate more interest in family history and more temple attendance. Joan in NC On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Carly Charter <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not an authority, but I am an assistant director of our local Family > History Center and was invoved in launching the program in our stake. What > we're doing is asking ward members to give our Family History Center > director a list of names they've submitted for Temple Ordinances. It's > voluntary, of course! It's just a way to keep a tally so we'll know when > our "sister stake beyond the veil" is populated. We know how many members > are in each ward and the total for the stake, so the goal is to encourage > each ward to contribute at least one temple submission for each living > member of the stake. To the best of my knowledge, it's not new rules or > demands from SLC -- just an interesting program to help motivate members to > become more involved in family history & temple work. I'm excited and > pleased about it being in place and am looking forward to some improvement > in member involvement. > Lois Carlyine Ritter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Cowley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Your stake in Heaven > > > > Thank you to those who responded regarding "Your Stake in Heaven." How > > did > > the stake get its count? I heard once we weren't supposed to ask people > > for > > attendance/contribution numbers. Was it voluntary? Jerry > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Did you phone their hotline and talk to New Family Search Support?  Here is their number if you don't have it...1-866-406-1830 They were very helpful in removing a name someone else had merged into my family tree, that messed everything up as it was the first name on the list of merges and I could not unmerge it. Try calling if you haven't already. BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:15:31 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Patience is a virtue. Nancy Scott Sent from my Epic 4g -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 7:03 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) This is the answer I received from Family Search Support.     I has asked on many occasions for the "Family Search" designation to be   removed from the submitter position so I could clear the name that I had   originally submitted before they messed it all up when we switched to NFS...it's  only been 5 years...who is in a hurry?  Usually they come back within a day  and say  "It's done, happy to help."  What's with all this  nonsense?   This request has nothing to do with doing names that aren't my family, or   changing data.  There must a way to discern between the two.  Do  any of you have connections to Patron Services?  Please make them  aware.   Michele        ____________________________________  From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 6/2/2012  3:35:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Reference: ordinances  (CaseID:2628538) Dear Sister Brooks, Case 2628538 Thank you for your patience and for sending the information we requested.   You would be totally amazed as to how many people do not follow church policy  and try to do ordinance work outside of their family files. This causes great  contention in the church. Imagine if someone did work for your family without  your permission and was totally unrelated to you. Your case has been  reviewed and was forwarded to experts in another department for further  examination. They will contact you directly when they have completed their  investigation. Please be aware that it may take some time before they are able  to get back with you. No other action on your part is necessary. If  you have any questions in the future, please feel free to contact us by email,  chat, or by calling 1-866-406-1830. You may also search for answers in the  Help Center located in New FamilySearch by clicking on the link at the bottom  of every page. We hope you will receive much joy and satisfaction in  all your family history endeavors. We appreciate all the work you do as Family  History Consultant. Sincerely, FamilySearch Patron and Partner Services   [email protected] Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patience is a virtue. Nancy Scott Sent from my Epic 4g -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 7:03 PM Subject: [LDS-WC] Fwd: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) This is the answer I received from Family Search Support. I has asked on many occasions for the "Family Search" designation to be removed from the submitter position so I could clear the name that I had originally submitted before they messed it all up when we switched to NFS...it's only been 5 years...who is in a hurry? Usually they come back within a day and say "It's done, happy to help." What's with all this nonsense? This request has nothing to do with doing names that aren't my family, or changing data. There must a way to discern between the two. Do any of you have connections to Patron Services? Please make them aware. Michele ____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 6/2/2012 3:35:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Dear Sister Brooks, Case 2628538 Thank you for your patience and for sending the information we requested. You would be totally amazed as to how many people do not follow church policy and try to do ordinance work outside of their family files. This causes great contention in the church. Imagine if someone did work for your family without your permission and was totally unrelated to you. Your case has been reviewed and was forwarded to experts in another department for further examination. They will contact you directly when they have completed their investigation. Please be aware that it may take some time before they are able to get back with you. No other action on your part is necessary. If you have any questions in the future, please feel free to contact us by email, chat, or by calling 1-866-406-1830. You may also search for answers in the Help Center located in New FamilySearch by clicking on the link at the bottom of every page. We hope you will receive much joy and satisfaction in all your family history endeavors. We appreciate all the work you do as Family History Consultant. Sincerely, FamilySearch Patron and Partner Services [email protected] Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the answer I received from Family Search Support. I has asked on many occasions for the "Family Search" designation to be removed from the submitter position so I could clear the name that I had originally submitted before they messed it all up when we switched to NFS...it's only been 5 years...who is in a hurry? Usually they come back within a day and say "It's done, happy to help." What's with all this nonsense? This request has nothing to do with doing names that aren't my family, or changing data. There must a way to discern between the two. Do any of you have connections to Patron Services? Please make them aware. Michele ____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 6/2/2012 3:35:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Reference: ordinances (CaseID:2628538) Dear Sister Brooks, Case 2628538 Thank you for your patience and for sending the information we requested. You would be totally amazed as to how many people do not follow church policy and try to do ordinance work outside of their family files. This causes great contention in the church. Imagine if someone did work for your family without your permission and was totally unrelated to you. Your case has been reviewed and was forwarded to experts in another department for further examination. They will contact you directly when they have completed their investigation. Please be aware that it may take some time before they are able to get back with you. No other action on your part is necessary. If you have any questions in the future, please feel free to contact us by email, chat, or by calling 1-866-406-1830. You may also search for answers in the Help Center located in New FamilySearch by clicking on the link at the bottom of every page. We hope you will receive much joy and satisfaction in all your family history endeavors. We appreciate all the work you do as Family History Consultant. Sincerely, FamilySearch Patron and Partner Services [email protected]

That's fine if there were changes (there were no changes to the indentifying info for the person)...and believe me I cannot tell you how spitting mad I am at the sister who put her line in my well researched line and wouldn't change it even though it would have required the father to be 12 years old to be the parent of this child. Our research group of 40 non members has done meticulous primary source work. She said.."Oh I saw it in a book" and refused to make changes. I will be EMBARRASSED when NFS goes to the public because it is such a mess. BUT, when all you ask for is a ordinance to be released from limbo (and we all know there are thousands being held by Family Search and hundreds of thousands by Legacy folks), you shouldn't have to walk through the same steps as you do to change a date, relationship or place. Further, why is it so crazy hard since they allow us to put multiple choice names/dates/places on the summary if we all agree it's the same person. Driving me crazy. Michele In a message dated 6/2/2012 1:13:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I think that to make changes that FamilySearch has come up with a "form" sort of reply. It is not perfect but it works for the most part. Because some research has been done poorly with little actual documentation, I believe that they need to ask for whatever you can provide before they make the changes. I really want nFS to become something that will be acceptable to Heavenly Father. There is so much to do and also perfecting of the Saints in cooperation of working together with the Spirit. I had a situation similar to this and was able to come up with the data, though I am not sure exactly how. I believe there was help from the other side showing me where the records were. I was amazed I could find them. It was a change that I made helping a member who had done the work poorly and another relative who was not checking sources before reserving work. I managed to keep unnecessary and incorrect ordinances from being done by the process which would have not happened before nFS. There are programs that will convert into jpgs and this is where Family History Consultants can be available to help others in their Wards. JPGs work well for almost all operating systems and have less problems with associated with possible virus so it makes sense to me that they are preferring that format. Nancy Scott Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might try logging out of FS and logging back in. Also delete any cookies. If neither of tem work, I would shut down my computer and reboot to se if that might solve your problem. Nancy Scott Sent from my Epic 4g -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Gibert <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] help opening a document Thanks I started again and I got to page 31. I then saved the page with "P" and forwarded to someone then I went back in again and it loaded first few pages and I tried to skip to page 31 to continue and I never got the spinning loading image the screen just is black. Also when I tried to go to page 31 it went to page 4 but it was black. I will keep playing with it. I am also trying to find Paquinette in the 1870 Mississippi census. Thanks again. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Scott Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 2:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] help opening a document What page numbers do you have problems with? I just started with page 4 that you list here and went to page 12 without any problems. Perhaps it is just taking a long time for your computer to paint the page? Is the little wheel still moving when you get the black? If you have a slower connection, it could just be taking longer for the new data to appear in which case you would just need to be patient or do something else while you wait. Nancy Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Gibert Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 02:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] help opening a document I have been trying to look at Mississippi records and sometime I will see a page or two and then the pages come in black, am I doing something wrong? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21942-52915-74?cc=1919687&wc=1 3646939 Thanks Nancy Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks I started again and I got to page 31. I then saved the page with "P" and forwarded to someone then I went back in again and it loaded first few pages and I tried to skip to page 31 to continue and I never got the spinning loading image the screen just is black. Also when I tried to go to page 31 it went to page 4 but it was black. I will keep playing with it. I am also trying to find Paquinette in the 1870 Mississippi census. Thanks again. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Scott Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 2:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] help opening a document What page numbers do you have problems with? I just started with page 4 that you list here and went to page 12 without any problems. Perhaps it is just taking a long time for your computer to paint the page? Is the little wheel still moving when you get the black? If you have a slower connection, it could just be taking longer for the new data to appear in which case you would just need to be patient or do something else while you wait. Nancy Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Gibert Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 02:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LDS-WC] help opening a document I have been trying to look at Mississippi records and sometime I will see a page or two and then the pages come in black, am I doing something wrong? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21942-52915-74?cc=1919687&wc=1 3646939 Thanks Nancy Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While we're on the subject, I want to kick a female out of the family who was submitted by somebody whose email is no longer valid. She has a male name according to this person, but I have extensive info on the male by the same name in the family, and the marriage info is there, with the kids and appropriate temple work has been done. Am I going to have to put a dispute on her, or is there another way to remove the mythical female from the family since I can't contact the submitter? There's certainly no reason to waste time doing temple work for her. Karen On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > That's fine if there were changes (there were no changes to the > indentifying info for the person)...and believe me I cannot tell you how > spitting mad > I am at the sister who put her line in my well researched line and > wouldn't change it even though it would have required the father to be 12 > years > old to be the parent of this child. Our research group of 40 non members > has > done meticulous primary source work. She said.."Oh I saw it in a book" > and refused to make changes. I will be EMBARRASSED when NFS goes to the > public because it is such a mess. > > BUT, when all you ask for is a ordinance to be released from limbo (and we > all know there are thousands being held by Family Search and hundreds of > thousands by Legacy folks), you shouldn't have to walk through the same > steps > as you do to change a date, relationship or place. Further, why is it so > crazy hard since they allow us to put multiple choice names/dates/places on > the summary if we all agree it's the same person. > > Driving me crazy. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/2/2012 1:13:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I think that to make changes that FamilySearch has come up with a "form" > sort of reply. It is not perfect but it works for the most part. > Because > some research has been done poorly with little actual documentation, I > believe that they need to ask for whatever you can provide before they > make > the changes. > > > > I really want nFS to become something that will be acceptable to Heavenly > Father. There is so much to do and also perfecting of the Saints in > cooperation of working together with the Spirit. > > > > I had a situation similar to this and was able to come up with the data, > though I am not sure exactly how. I believe there was help from the other > side showing me where the records were. I was amazed I could find them. > It > was a change that I made helping a member who had done the work poorly and > another relative who was not checking sources before reserving work. I > managed to keep unnecessary and incorrect ordinances from being done by > the > process which would have not happened before nFS. > > > > There are programs that will convert into jpgs and this is where Family > History Consultants can be available to help others in their Wards. JPGs > work well for almost all operating systems and have less problems with > associated with possible virus so it makes sense to me that they are > preferring that format. > > > > Nancy Scott > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just one!

Contact FamilySearch Support and request the change, include: Your full name and birth date. Your helper access number The name and Person Identifier of the individual or individuals in question A description of the problem. (Incorrect Gender) Proof of what the gender should be. This may be a document such as a birth certificate, marriage license, census record or personal knowledge, or the knowledge of a close family member who knew the individual. It could also be proof that the system contains a duplicate person who is clearly the same individual but with the correct gender. Send it in. Knowledge Document 1012531 Shanna Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Tippets Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Requirements for Corrections While we're on the subject, I want to kick a female out of the family who was submitted by somebody whose email is no longer valid. She has a male name according to this person, but I have extensive info on the male by the same name in the family, and the marriage info is there, with the kids and appropriate temple work has been done. Am I going to have to put a dispute on her, or is there another way to remove the mythical female from the family since I can't contact the submitter? There's certainly no reason to waste time doing temple work for her. Karen On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > That's fine if there were changes (there were no changes to the > indentifying info for the person)...and believe me I cannot tell you > how spitting mad I am at the sister who put her line in my well > researched line and wouldn't change it even though it would have > required the father to be 12 years old to be the parent of this child. > Our research group of 40 non members has done meticulous primary > source work. She said.."Oh I saw it in a book" > and refused to make changes. I will be EMBARRASSED when NFS goes to > the public because it is such a mess. > > BUT, when all you ask for is a ordinance to be released from limbo > (and we all know there are thousands being held by Family Search and > hundreds of thousands by Legacy folks), you shouldn't have to walk > through the same steps as you do to change a date, relationship or > place. Further, why is it so crazy hard since they allow us to put > multiple choice names/dates/places on the summary if we all agree > it's the same person. > > Driving me crazy. > > Michele > > > In a message dated 6/2/2012 1:13:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I think that to make changes that FamilySearch has come up with a "form" > sort of reply. It is not perfect but it works for the most part. > Because > some research has been done poorly with little actual documentation, > I believe that they need to ask for whatever you can provide before > they make the changes. > > > > I really want nFS to become something that will be acceptable to > Heavenly Father. There is so much to do and also perfecting of the > Saints in cooperation of working together with the Spirit. > > > > I had a situation similar to this and was able to come up with the data, > though I am not sure exactly how. I believe there was help from the other > side showing me where the records were. I was amazed I could find them. > It > was a change that I made helping a member who had done the work > poorly and another relative who was not checking sources before > reserving work. I managed to keep unnecessary and incorrect > ordinances from being done by the process which would have not > happened before nFS. > > > > There are programs that will convert into jpgs and this is where > Family History Consultants can be available to help others in their > Wards. JPGs work well for almost all operating systems and have less > problems with associated with possible virus so it makes sense to me > that they are preferring that format. > > > > Nancy Scott > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just one! Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karen - I had success with doing this type of thing a couple of times. Maybe I was just lucky in who got my help request but this is what I did: 1) reserved the person with the wrong gender so the work would not be done in error while the process worked it's way through. 2) Created a case, included my helper info (I know - why? since the system knows who I am when I create the case, but they always ask). 3) Described the problem (bogus female of same name, etc. as real male). Expressed my concern in wanting to improve the integrity of the data. Asked them to delete (they most likely won't delete the bad record, but just suppress it so it is not visible) or suppress it from public view 4) Included links to pertinent documents that supported my request. In most cases, I was lucky in that I was able to point to multiple census & vital records that happened to be available for these families on FamilySearch, so I just re-did the search, found them, copy & pasted the URLs into my case request. 5) got a fairly quick response thanking me for my concern about the integrity of the data and saying that my request had been forwarded to the appropriate department/people. 6) got a fairly quick response from that department/person that the record had been suppressed. All in all it took about a week or two and was done. That's what worked for me. On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Karen Tippets <[email protected]> wrote: > While we're on the subject, I want to kick a female out of the family who > was submitted by somebody whose email is no longer valid. She has a male > name according to this person, but I have extensive info on the male by the > same name in the family, and the marriage info is there, with the kids and > appropriate temple work has been done. > > Am I going to have to put a dispute on her, or is there another way to > remove the mythical female from the family since I can't contact the > submitter? There's certainly no reason to waste time doing temple work for > her. > > Karen > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That's fine if there were changes (there were no changes to the > > indentifying info for the person)...and believe me I cannot tell you how > > spitting mad > > I am at the sister who put her line in my well researched line and > > wouldn't change it even though it would have required the father to be 12 > > years > > old to be the parent of this child. Our research group of 40 non members > > has > > done meticulous primary source work. She said.."Oh I saw it in a book" > > and refused to make changes. I will be EMBARRASSED when NFS goes to the > > public because it is such a mess. > > > > BUT, when all you ask for is a ordinance to be released from limbo (and > we > > all know there are thousands being held by Family Search and hundreds of > > thousands by Legacy folks), you shouldn't have to walk through the same > > steps > > as you do to change a date, relationship or place. Further, why is it > so > > crazy hard since they allow us to put multiple choice names/dates/places > on > > the summary if we all agree it's the same person. > > > > Driving me crazy. > > > > Michele > > > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2012 1:13:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > I think that to make changes that FamilySearch has come up with a "form" > > sort of reply. It is not perfect but it works for the most part. > > Because > > some research has been done poorly with little actual documentation, I > > believe that they need to ask for whatever you can provide before they > > make > > the changes. > > > > > > > > I really want nFS to become something that will be acceptable to > Heavenly > > Father. There is so much to do and also perfecting of the Saints in > > cooperation of working together with the Spirit. > > > > > > > > I had a situation similar to this and was able to come up with the data, > > though I am not sure exactly how. I believe there was help from the > other > > side showing me where the records were. I was amazed I could find them. > > It > > was a change that I made helping a member who had done the work poorly > and > > another relative who was not checking sources before reserving work. I > > managed to keep unnecessary and incorrect ordinances from being done by > > the > > process which would have not happened before nFS. > > > > > > > > There are programs that will convert into jpgs and this is where Family > > History Consultants can be available to help others in their Wards. > JPGs > > work well for almost all operating systems and have less problems with > > associated with possible virus so it makes sense to me that they are > > preferring that format. > > > > > > > > Nancy Scott > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just > one! > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dan Taysom [email protected]

Records are generated when people check into the Temple. They may, or may not, know what people are doing (ie baptisms, initiatory, endowments, sealings) once they get inside, but they do get feedback of some kind from the Temple system, probably on both a Stake and Ward level. Karen On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Jerry Cowley <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you to those who responded regarding "Your Stake in Heaven." How did > the stake get its count? I heard once we weren't supposed to ask people for > attendance/contribution numbers. Was it voluntary? Jerry > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Finding ancestors is like eating potato chips--you can't stop with just one!