You might enjoy watching this http://rootstech.org/?start=8927&id=B34&video=2245338986001 Regine Brindle --- On Wed, 4/17/13, Jorge Todeschini <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Jorge Todeschini <jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Fan charts explanation To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 8:39 PM So it does "move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work." Or at least hopes to. -----Mensagem Original----- From: JCBrooks@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:00 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] Fan charts explanation It has been explained to me that so few people in relative numbers of church membership are actively involved in family history that these collateral efforts were introduced to stimulate interest and collaboration and ultimately  submission of names for the temple. In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:16:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Why are  we doing fan charts anyway? Seems like emphasis on fluff.  Harder  to read.   Seems  commercially motivated and does not move  towards the goal for the accomplishment  of temple work. I  just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies expended on their development.  Anyone have any good  ideas? Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who  like goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more  obvious in the early stages of  development). Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013  1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com  writes: nope to  that. Been there and done that. Has to go  to nFS and switch the default  name because nFS is still  open. I can't switch my great  grandmother's mother to adoptive  parents at all, which is a complete  different kind of problem. In  nFS it shows adoptive parents while in FT it  shows birth  mother. FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative  parents or  right parents, and will show wrong parents. Must switch to  pedigree  to correct parents. There's no way to mark as default like it is  in  nFS. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones   wrote: > Click this link: >   https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport > > Close the  what's  new box. > Click on Family Tree > Watch the Quick  Start to Family  Tree Video as it explains and shows you how >  to change the  name. > If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted  record and you will  need to > create a case to have it  fixed. > Shanna > >  -----Original Message----- >  From:  lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >   [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of  Peter >  Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM > To:   lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to  change  the default name showing in FT. > > On 17-Apr-2013  10:36 AM,  Shanna Jones wrote: >> Peter, >> In Family  Tree there is  only one name showing.  If your friend  wants >> to change the  name shown, click on the name itself in  the Person view. >> Then you  will see Edit.  Click on Edit  and change the name to the correct >  name. >> Then  add any reasoning and you can also tag any  sources.  If you  want >> to have the other names kept somewhere,  they can be  listed down >> further under Other   Information. >> >> This will list your friend in the  Latest  Changes. > > Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't  work.  It will  add an Alternate name, but > will not change  the default name. >  Peter > > Please send the one word  message SUBSCRIBE or  UNSUBSCRIBE to >  LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >   ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list,  please  send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com  with the  word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the  subject and the body of  the message > > > Please send  the one word message SUBSCRIBE  or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >   ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list,  please  send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com  with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and  the body of the  message > Please send the one word message  SUBSCRIBE or  UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list,  please  send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com  with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and  the body of the  message Please send the one word message  SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's what the philosophy was. It would appeal (like some of these other bells and whistles) to an untapped groups of members who are not currently involved and hopefully spur them to more good works. Remains to be seen :-) Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013 5:41:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jorgetodeschini@hotmail.com writes: So it does "move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work." Or at least hopes to. -----Mensagem Original----- From: JCBrooks@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:00 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] Fan charts explanation It has been explained to me that so few people in relative numbers of church membership are actively involved in family history that these collateral efforts were introduced to stimulate interest and collaboration and ultimately submission of names for the temple. In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:16:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Why are we doing fan charts anyway? Seems like emphasis on fluff. Harder to read. Seems commercially motivated and does not move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work. I just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies expended on their development. Anyone have any good ideas? Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who like goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more obvious in the early stages of development). Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: nope to that. Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name because nFS is still open. I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive parents while in FT it shows birth mother. FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Click this link: > https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport > > Close the what's new box. > Click on Family Tree > Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you how > to change the name. > If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to > create a case to have it fixed. > Shanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. > > On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Peter, >> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct > name. >> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >> further under Other Information. >> >> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. > > Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but > will not change the default name. > Peter > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So it does "move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work." Or at least hopes to. -----Mensagem Original----- From: JCBrooks@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:00 PM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] Fan charts explanation It has been explained to me that so few people in relative numbers of church membership are actively involved in family history that these collateral efforts were introduced to stimulate interest and collaboration and ultimately submission of names for the temple. In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:16:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Why are we doing fan charts anyway? Seems like emphasis on fluff. Harder to read. Seems commercially motivated and does not move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work. I just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies expended on their development. Anyone have any good ideas? Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who like goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more obvious in the early stages of development). Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: nope to that. Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name because nFS is still open. I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive parents while in FT it shows birth mother. FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Click this link: > https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport > > Close the what's new box. > Click on Family Tree > Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you how > to change the name. > If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to > create a case to have it fixed. > Shanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. > > On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Peter, >> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct > name. >> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >> further under Other Information. >> >> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. > > Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but > will not change the default name. > Peter > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mark, you can not go straight to Family Tree without signing in first. Or you will get the internet error message. W. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 8:04 PM, Mark E. Gower wrote: > They must have done an update (I hope), but the Family Tree is now up again and functioning. > > Mark E. Gower > Mesa, Arizona, USA

They must have done an update (I hope), but the Family Tree is now up again and functioning. Mark E. Gower Mesa, Arizona, USA

It has been explained to me that so few people in relative numbers of church membership are actively involved in family history that these collateral efforts were introduced to stimulate interest and collaboration and ultimately submission of names for the temple. In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:16:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JCBrooks@aol.com writes: Why are we doing fan charts anyway? Seems like emphasis on fluff. Harder to read. Seems commercially motivated and does not move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work. I just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies expended on their development. Anyone have any good ideas? Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who like goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more obvious in the early stages of development). Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: nope to that. Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name because nFS is still open. I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive parents while in FT it shows birth mother. FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Click this link: > https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport > > Close the what's new box. > Click on Family Tree > Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you how > to change the name. > If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to > create a case to have it fixed. > Shanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. > > On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Peter, >> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct > name. >> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >> further under Other Information. >> >> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. > > Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but > will not change the default name. > Peter > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fan charts are cool. They motivate people to work on all directions of their tree. Especially for very visual learning style people. --- Mensagem Original --- De: JCBrooks@aol.com Enviado: 17 de abril de 2013 17:16 Para: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Assunto: [LDS-WC] Fan charts Why are we doing fan charts anyway? Seems like emphasis on fluff. Harder to read. Seems commercially motivated and does not move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work. I just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies expended on their development. Anyone have any good ideas? Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who like goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more obvious in the early stages of development). Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: nope to that. Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name because nFS is still open. I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive parents while in FT it shows birth mother. FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Click this link: > https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport > > Close the what's new box. > Click on Family Tree > Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you how > to change the name. > If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to > create a case to have it fixed. > Shanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. > > On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Peter, >> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct > name. >> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >> further under Other Information. >> >> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. > > Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but > will not change the default name. > Peter > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I understand that. But why were any hours or monies expended in the creation of that feature which doesn't seem to promote the completion of temple ordinances...or the missions of the church. I can sort of understand the preservation of pictures and stories as having important historical value. But fan charts? I can see the blanks on a pedigree chart just as well. Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:20:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: Not that createaFan one It's a feature in Family Tree now. You can switch pedigree with fan chart or vice versa. Fan chart shows 4 generation plus children. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 2:16 PM, JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > Why are we doing fan charts anyway? > > Seems like emphasis on fluff. Harder to read. Seems commercially > motivated and does not move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple > work. > > I just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies > expended on their development. Anyone have any good ideas? > > Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who like > goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more obvious in the early > stages of development). > > Michele > > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dsam52@sampubco.com writes: > > nope to that. > > Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name > because nFS is still open. > > I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, > which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive > parents while in FT it shows birth mother. > > FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, > and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. > There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. > > David Samuelsen > > On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Click this link: >> https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport >> >> Close the what's new box. >> Click on Family Tree >> Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you > how >> to change the name. >> If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to >> create a case to have it fixed. >> Shanna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter >> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. >> >> On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >>> Peter, >>> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >>> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >>> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the > correct >> name. >>> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >>> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >>> further under Other Information. >>> >>> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. >> >> Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but >> will not change the default name. >> Peter >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Why are we doing fan charts anyway? Seems like emphasis on fluff. Harder to read. Seems commercially motivated and does not move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple work. I just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies expended on their development. Anyone have any good ideas? Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who like goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more obvious in the early stages of development). Michele In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dsam52@sampubco.com writes: nope to that. Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name because nFS is still open. I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive parents while in FT it shows birth mother. FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Click this link: > https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport > > Close the what's new box. > Click on Family Tree > Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you how > to change the name. > If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to > create a case to have it fixed. > Shanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. > > On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Peter, >> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct > name. >> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >> further under Other Information. >> >> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. > > Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but > will not change the default name. > Peter > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not that createaFan one It's a feature in Family Tree now. You can switch pedigree with fan chart or vice versa. Fan chart shows 4 generation plus children. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 2:16 PM, JCBrooks@aol.com wrote: > Why are we doing fan charts anyway? > > Seems like emphasis on fluff. Harder to read. Seems commercially > motivated and does not move towards the goal for the accomplishment of temple > work. > > I just don't understand why goals like fan charts were set and monies > expended on their development. Anyone have any good ideas? > > Only ones I can come up with is to attract non-member users who like > goodies like this...or ancestry.com envy (which was more obvious in the early > stages of development). > > Michele > > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2013 1:12:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dsam52@sampubco.com writes: > > nope to that. > > Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name > because nFS is still open. > > I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, > which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive > parents while in FT it shows birth mother. > > FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, > and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. > There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. > > David Samuelsen > > On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Click this link: >> https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport >> >> Close the what's new box. >> Click on Family Tree >> Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you > how >> to change the name. >> If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to >> create a case to have it fixed. >> Shanna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter >> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM >> To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. >> >> On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >>> Peter, >>> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >>> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >>> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the > correct >> name. >>> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >>> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >>> further under Other Information. >>> >>> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. >> >> Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but >> will not change the default name. >> Peter >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That submitter ID is FamilySearch's ! Edit the record in Family Tree to clean out errors. It happened to my folks, too. One case was so bad, I filed complaint via feedback. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 9:47 AM, Peter wrote: > Good morning everyone. > > Just got a question from a friend.He has 4 entries by 4 > different submittersfor his grandmother. > 3 are correct one has a wrong spelling. The wrong spelling is > showing as the default name. > This incorrect record also has a wrong death date. > The submitter of this information is "unknown#####" > > The record for his grandfather has the same problem but the > submitter is "Familysearch" > > How can he change this so his correct record shows as the > default? Does he need to get support > involved to delete/hide the record? Does he need to declare > legacy? > > Appreciate your suggestions. > Thank you. > > Peter > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

that is not the reason. It is already printed and on way to be done. As for birth or death place, it is not required if submitted in family mode which is now the only way to do so. I already submitted 3 yesterday and they had no birth and death places, only that they have the virtue of having children and married to spouses. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 9:26 AM, Lawrence I Cole wrote: > This message: Qualifying information is no longer ready! That we need to > check it to see if the required information is there. Check that there is a > county in the Birth or Death place! The update last years has new > requirements for ordinances.

nope to that. Been there and done that. Has to go to nFS and switch the default name because nFS is still open. I can't switch my great grandmother's mother to adoptive parents at all, which is a complete different kind of problem. In nFS it shows adoptive parents while in FT it shows birth mother. FanChart is worse. Will not show alternative parents or right parents, and will show wrong parents. Must switch to pedigree to correct parents. There's no way to mark as default like it is in nFS. David Samuelsen On 4/17/2013 11:40 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Click this link: > https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport > > Close the what's new box. > Click on Family Tree > Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you how > to change the name. > If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to > create a case to have it fixed. > Shanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. > > On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: >> Peter, >> In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants >> to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. >> Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct > name. >> Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want >> to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down >> further under Other Information. >> >> This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. > > Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but > will not change the default name. > Peter > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could that be because the individual qualified under the 95-year rule of permission, but does not qualify under the 110-year rule? > From: coleli@sbcglobal.net > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:26:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] Temple reservation page > > This message: Qualifying information is no longer ready! That we need to > check it to see if the required information is there. Check that there is a > county in the Birth or Death place! The update last years has new > requirements for ordinances. > The yellow triangle appears for one of these reasons: > .The individual no longer qualifies for temple ordinances > .The individual's prerequisite ordinances are not done. > In Family Search Help Type "no Longer Qualifies" or the number 110403 > > Hope this help you! > > Elder Larry Cole > > -----Original Message----- > From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > JCBrooks@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:41 PM > To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDS-WC] Temple reservation page > > No one answered this the first time around, so I will try again..... > > > > > I have a question for the experts. > > What does it mean when an individual has "Qualifying information is no > longer ready. You can edit the Person Detail. or "(and then it's cut off > and I can't see the rest). > > I have quite a few of these and when I look at them, I don't understand. > > For instance > _Edwin E. Ware_ (javascript:FS.noop()) L8YQ-CRJ Seal to spouse (yet it says > printed) > > > _Birdie May Myers_ (javascript:FS.noop()) > L9CN-KN7 > Seal to parents but also says printed. > > Very confusing. > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Click this link: https://familysearch.org/ask/productSupport Close the what's new box. Click on Family Tree Watch the Quick Start to Family Tree Video as it explains and shows you how to change the name. If it doesn't work, it may be a restricted record and you will need to create a case to have it fixed. Shanna -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Peter, > In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants > to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. > Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct name. > Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want > to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down > further under Other Information. > > This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but will not change the default name. Peter Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is the ID number? Shanna -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Peter, > In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants > to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. > Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct name. > Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want > to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down > further under Other Information. > > This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but will not change the default name. Peter Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 17-Apr-2013 10:36 AM, Shanna Jones wrote: > Peter, > In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants to > change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. Then > you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct name. > Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want to > have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down further under > Other Information. > > This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. Sorry Shanna, but that doesn't work. It will add an Alternate name, but will not change the default name. Peter

Joyce, All calling information has been consolidated and put at LDS.org. Click on Resources and then Family History. This will show you the new page about Family History. At the bottom of that page is a list of Leader Resources, Family History Calling Resources, Quick Start Videos, Indexing Resources, Youth Resources and the Member's Guide. Headquarters is trying to make everything available starting at LDS.org to make things easier for people to find them without having to remember other web addresses. The Consultant information is found under the Family History Callings. That is where you now register, find the To Turn the Hearts guide and videos, course materials, etc. Shanna Jones -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Walth Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:41 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] Consultant training & help I need to learn everything over, it seems. So, does anyone know where the consultant lessons have gone? Maybe they are redoing those. I just don't see anywhere for consultants to go to get help.Thanks,Joyce Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, In Family Tree there is only one name showing. If your friend wants to change the name shown, click on the name itself in the Person view. Then you will see Edit. Click on Edit and change the name to the correct name. Then add any reasoning and you can also tag any sources. If you want to have the other names kept somewhere, they can be listed down further under Other Information. This will list your friend in the Latest Changes. You no longer need to claim legacy, as anyone can change anything in the Family Tree. The submitter showing as "FamilySearch" comes up when people are using third-party products to make changes and they are writing to new.familysearch and it is transferred to the Family Tree. It is best to just make the changes in the Family Tree and attach your sources and add your reasoning right there. It is easy to do. You can also look for possible duplicates and merge in any duplicates and mark any that are not duplicates as "not a match" to keep others from merging incorrectly. Shanna Jones -----Original Message----- From: lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lds-ward-consultant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:48 AM To: lds-ward-consultant@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDS-WC] How to change the default name showing in FT. Good morning everyone. Just got a question from a friend.He has 4 entries by 4 different submittersfor his grandmother. 3 are correct one has a wrong spelling. The wrong spelling is showing as the default name. This incorrect record also has a wrong death date. The submitter of this information is "unknown#####" The record for his grandfather has the same problem but the submitter is "Familysearch" How can he change this so his correct record shows as the default? Does he need to get support involved to delete/hide the record? Does he need to declare legacy? Appreciate your suggestions. Thank you. Peter Please send the one word message SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning everyone. Just got a question from a friend.He has 4 entries by 4 different submittersfor his grandmother. 3 are correct one has a wrong spelling. The wrong spelling is showing as the default name. This incorrect record also has a wrong death date. The submitter of this information is "unknown#####" The record for his grandfather has the same problem but the submitter is "Familysearch" How can he change this so his correct record shows as the default? Does he need to get support involved to delete/hide the record? Does he need to declare legacy? Appreciate your suggestions. Thank you. Peter