This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CelesteHolly51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6754.1.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Actually scientists have not determined if the M3 mutation first appeared just before the Asian ancestors crossed the Bering Straits or sometime after. It occurred around that time leaving some Q1a3 with M3- and some with M3 . M3- was the original Q1a3 designation, according to scientists. It is still found in the Middle East and in other areas of Asia - and in a small group of descendants of Native Americans in this country. It is rarer than the M3 now - but originally was the only designation of that haplo - thousands of yrs ago. Because the Hookers with the Q1a3 M3- are known to descend from a Native American/Cherokee male who lived in S W VA c 1700, we have more than just the DNA indication of Native American ancestry. Celeste Holly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.