This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ford77191 Surnames: Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great-great grandfather Richard Lawson born about 1801 in NC and from my nephew's DNA was listed under the Falling River Lawson's. In your research have you found any mention that any of these men had a son named Richard born according to the 1850 IN census & 1860 IN census in NC - the 1870 MO census show he was born in VA. Thank you, Geri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CelesteHolly51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I guess you have not been following this thread as the Cherokee were in that area of Southwestern VA until 1761 when they sold that area to the British by treaty, and some moved south into NC then. Some stayed and settled; this has been known by the people of that area for generations. This info is included in some of the local museums and hist societies as well as in history passed down through families. The first Hooker to have land deed in that area was Robert Hooker (Sr) 1746. His probable son b c 1730 was Robin/Robert (Jr) Hooker - his sons b in the 1750s and 1760s and their descendants all knew their ancestors as Cherokee. There was a bit of difference as to whether Robin was full-blood or 1/2 Cherokee but due to unusual haplo of the descendants we know it did come through the male side of the family. Also, the Q1a3 haplo that these PCVA Hookers today have is also found in present day Cherokee populations. The descendants of many PCVA families (and that immediate area) all had Cherokee ancestors - some on the female side and some, like the Hookers, on the male side, as well. Not only did the Hookers get Cherokee heritage from their male side many married into other families with Cherokee ancestors. Celeste Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The facts seem to suggest that the Hookers were not Cherokee. They could have been Indian but not Cherokee. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cherokee County, NC is a good sign. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hakatee Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6873/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is my g-g-father and I am looking for his family. I think his father was Zadock Lawson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlllawson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Black Eye Lawson's sons were mention in: - Stokes County Deed Book 5, page 160, 15 October 1803. Thomas Lawson, John Lawson, Letty Lawson, Clem Lawson, Patmon Lawson and Randall Hall are selling to Thomas Gains 200 acres of land on Little Peters Creek. The deed does not say where they acquired the land, but they are obviously tenants in common. There is a state grant 813, dated 5 October 1778, in the Surry County Book of Land Entries, 1778 - 1781 and reentered in Vol. 1, Stokes County Record of Deeds, 1787 - 1793, page 124, Grant 1071, dated 18 May 1781, that was received by John Lawson for 200 acres, which is the same 200 acres that is sold in Deed Book 5, page160 with identical land description shown above. This John Lawson is identified in the tax lists as John Lawson B.E. (Black Eye). Since Randolph was alive at this time I would have assume he would have been a part of this transaction but I believe he was in Tennessee, so maybe not. Randolph applied for a pension based on his military service 28 April 1835 while he was living in Johnson County, Illinois, where he lived briefly. Stated his age was 82 years and that he entered the service in the summer of 1780 in Cumberland County, North Carolina where he was born. Indicate he was born in the fall or winter of 1752. He made further application while living in Clinton County, Kentucky, in 1842, and again in 1844, in Cumberland County, Kentucky where he said he lived at that time, and where some of his descendants believe he died in March 1848. In these applications he indicated he had a brother, John Lawson, who lived in Morgan County that serviced with him but that his brother was dead. Indicated he moved from Cumberland County, NC to Patrick County, Virginia, thence to Montgomery County, Virginia, thence to Campbell County, Tennessee and stayed for 20 years. Left there in the fall of 1832 to Johnston County, Illinois. The following information is from John Lawson's application for a pension, filed 16 April 1833 in Morgan County, Tennessee: That he was born in Bedford County, Virginia and was 78 years old when giving information. (Born about 1755-56 if information is correct.) Lived in Cumberland County, North Carolina but could not remember the dates because of his age and loss of memory. While living in Cumberland County he enter the service, in the fall or early part of winter, as a substitute (as a private) for David Lawson. So it is odd to me that both brothers, filing at different times and places would state they enter the service in Cumberland County, NC. If nothing, it does indicate they were there at some time and records do show that Bartholomew Lawson and his family were there in 1765 when Bartholomew died. The record of Cumberland County does show a David Lawson in the tax list in 1777 and 1778 in Capt. Jacob Duckworth's District. Also the following on David: - Cumberland County, North Carolina Packet 1585 and 1774 - The first packet 1585 stated Grant 934, issued 11 March 1775, entry 986, entered 16 January 1773, Book 25, Page 223, David Lawson 100 acres on both sides of Buffalow (Buffalo) Creek. There was no document in this packet. The second packet 1774, which listed the information as Grant 934, issued 6 January 1775, Book 27, page 157, David Lawson 100 acres located on both sides of Buffalow Creek - including where he now lives. There were three documents inside the second packet. Two were an order for a survey for David Lawson's 100 acres on both sides of Buffalow Creek, including where he now lives, dated 16 January 1773. The one issued by Wm. Palmer to Peter Johnston surveyor, indicate that survey was returned to July Court 1774. The third document was the survey for David Lawson, one hundred areas of land in Cumberland County on both sides of Buffaloe Creek including improvements he now lives on. Beginning at a black oak on a hill east side of the Creek and runs S15E12 pole xing (crossing) the creek twice to a black oak in the creek bottom, then N15W127 pole to a stake thence xing the creek to the beginning. 25 November 1773. On the back of this survey it had the name David Lawson 100 written on the edge. It also had in the middle of the document the names Gabriel Harden Junr. and Mary Lawson and G.B. after the two names. Not sure why these two names appear on the document. Was this the David Lawson that John substituted for in the Revolutionary War? I also think there is a possibility that Anna Lawson is the daughter of Jonas Lawson of Stokes County, NC. I believe he was married more than once as shown by his will: - Jonas died testate some time after 13 February 1816 when he wrote the will and when it was proved at March Court 1816 and recorded in Stokes County Will Book 2, page 174, 13 February 1816. Five daughters were left ten shillings each: Mary Cloud, Anna Lawson, Martha Allen, Sarah Lawson, and Nancy Wood. Wife Milly was left the entire estate. Also named are "my last children": William, Jonas, Lemuel, Adam, James and Robert. Ex's: wife Milly, son William. Wit: John Webb and William Moore, Jurat. Signed Jonas (X) Lawson. The five daughters are from his previous marriage and the will is showing their married name, so Anna and Sarah married Lawsons. Also believe he had at least 3 sons by this previous marriage and their names were John (sometimes shown as Jack in the records), Thomas and David Jeff Lawson. The tax records supports the son Thomas: - Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1802 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Clemment; 50 acres Lawson, David; 50 acres Lawson, John; 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, John Sr.; 200 acres Lawson, Jonas, 400 acres Lawson, Moses, 1 white poll Lawson, Patmon, 150 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherwood; 1 white poll Lawson, Thomas; 1 white poll Lawson, Thomas (son of Jonas); 1 white poll Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlllawson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Black Eye Lawson's sons were mention in: - Stokes County Deed Book 5, page 160, 15 October 1803. Thomas Lawson, John Lawson, Letty Lawson, Clem Lawson, Patmon Lawson and Randall Hall are selling to Thomas Gains 200 acres of land on Little Peters Creek. The deed does not say where they acquired the land, but they are obviously tenants in common. There is a state grant 813, dated 5 October 1778, in the Surry County Book of Land Entries, 1778 - 1781 and reentered in Vol. 1, Stokes County Record of Deeds, 1787 - 1793, page 124, Grant 1071, dated 18 May 1781, that was received by John Lawson for 200 acres, which is the same 200 acres that is sold in Deed Book 5, page160 with identical land description shown above. This John Lawson is identified in the tax lists as John Lawson B.E. (Black Eye). Since Randolph was alive at this time I would have assume he would have been a part of this transaction but I believe he was in Tennessee, so maybe not. Randolph applied for a pension based on his military service 28 April 1835 while he was living in Johnson County, Illinois, where he lived briefly. Stated his age was 82 years and that he entered the service in the summer of 1780 in Cumberland County, North Carolina where he was born. Indicate he was born in the fall or winter of 1752. He made further application while living in Clinton County, Kentucky, in 1842, and again in 1844, in Cumberland County, Kentucky where he said he lived at that time, and where some of his descendants believe he died in March 1848. In these applications he indicated he had a brother, John Lawson, who lived in Morgan County that serviced with him but that his brother was dead. Indicated he moved from Cumberland County, NC to Patrick County, Virginia, thence to Montgomery County, Virginia, thence to Campbell County, Tennessee and stayed for 20 years. Left there in the fall of 1832 to Johnston County, Illinois. The following information is from John Lawson's application for a pension, filed 16 April 1833 in Morgan County, Tennessee: That he was born in Bedford County, Virginia and was 78 years old when giving information. (Born about 1755-56 if information is correct.) Lived in Cumberland County, North Carolina but could not remember the dates because of his age and loss of memory. While living in Cumberland County he enter the service, in the fall or early part of winter, as a substitute (as a private) for David Lawson. So it is odd to me that both brothers, filing at different times and places would state they enter the service in Cumberland County, NC. If nothing, it does indicate they were there at some time and records do show that Bartholomew Lawson and his family were there in 1765 when Bartholomew died. The record of Cumberland County does show a David Lawson in the tax list in 1777 and 1778 in Capt. Jacob Duckworth's District. Also the following on David: - Cumberland County, North Carolina Packet 1585 and 1774 - The first packet 1585 stated Grant 934, issued 11 March 1775, entry 986, entered 16 January 1773, Book 25, Page 223, David Lawson 100 acres on both sides of Buffalow (Buffalo) Creek. There was no document in this packet. The second packet 1774, which listed the information as Grant 934, issued 6 January 1775, Book 27, page 157, David Lawson 100 acres located on both sides of Buffalow Creek - including where he now lives. There were three documents inside the second packet. Two were an order for a survey for David Lawson's 100 acres on both sides of Buffalow Creek, including where he now lives, dated 16 January 1773. The one issued by Wm. Palmer to Peter Johnston surveyor, indicate that survey was returned to July Court 1774. The third document was the survey for David Lawson, one hundred areas of land in Cumberland County on both sides of Buffaloe Creek including improvements he now lives on. Beginning at a black oak on a hill east side of the Creek and runs S15E12 pole xing (crossing) the creek twice to a black oak in the creek bottom, then N15W127 pole to a stake thence xing the creek to the beginning. 25 November 1773. On the back of this survey it had the name David Lawson 100 written on the edge. It also had in the middle of the document the names Gabriel Harden Junr. and Mary Lawson and G.B. after the two names. Not sure why these two names appear on the document. Was this the David Lawson that John substituted for in the Revolutionary War? I also think there is a possibility that Anna Lawson is the daughter of Jonas Lawson of Stokes County, NC. I believe he was married more than once as shown by his will: - Jonas died testate some time after 13 February 1816 when he wrote the will and when it was proved at March Court 1816 and recorded in Stokes County Will Book 2, page 174, 13 February 1816. Five daughters were left ten shillings each: Mary Cloud, Anna Lawson, Martha Allen, Sarah Lawson, and Nancy Wood. Wife Milly was left the entire estate. Also named are "my last children": William, Jonas, Lemuel, Adam, James and Robert. Ex's: wife Milly, son William. Wit: John Webb and William Moore, Jurat. Signed Jonas (X) Lawson. The five daughters are from his previous marriage and the will is showing their married name, so Anna and Sarah married Lawsons. Also believe he had at least 3 sons by this previous marriage and their names were John (sometimes shown as Jack in the records), Thomas and David Jeff Lawson. The tax records supports the son Thomas: - Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1802 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Clemment; 50 acres Lawson, David; 50 acres Lawson, John; 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, John Sr.; 200 acres Lawson, Jonas, 400 acres Lawson, Moses, 1 white poll Lawson, Patmon, 150 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherwood; 1 white poll Lawson, Thomas; 1 white poll Lawson, Thomas (son of Jonas); 1 white poll Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KathleenLamb87 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think it interesting that Our Benjamin Floyd Lawson son of Elijah who was son of William Lawson born before 1755 came with wife Satah Hinton from Va. to Hawkins Co., Tn about 1778 married Emmaline Miller BARTLEY. [Note Bartley Lawson] She was Emmaline dau of John Wesley Bartley son of Robert Bartley who married Elizabeth Doane in Surry Co., NC. Robert was born in 1776 in Guilford Co., NC It shows that the Bartley's must have connected to the Lawsons more than once. Kay in Tennessee Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlllawson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe you will find that Lunenburg County was formed from Brunswick County in 1746. Halifax County was taken from the western lands of Lunenburg County in 1752. Bedford County was taken from Lunenburg County in 1754. Pittsylvania County was formed from Halifax County in 1767. Henry County was formed from Pittsylvania County in 1777. Patrick County was formed from Henry County in 1791 and lastly Campbell County was form from Bedford County in 1782. William Lawson of Falling Rivers obtained his land in Brunswick County, VA: - Virginia Land Patent Book 23, page 1120, dated 20 August 1745, William Lawson, 143 acres in Brunswick County, Virginia, for 15 shilling, on the north side of Falling River. You will find Falling River north of the northeast tri-corner of present day Campbell, Charlotte and Halifax Counties and it flows into the Roanoke (Staunton) River. Therefore the land that William owned was originally in Brunswick County, then Lunenburg County, then Bedford County and today it is located in Campbell County, VA. >From the list of tithes for 1748, 1749, 1750 and 1752 we find the following Lawsons in Lunenburg County, VA: - John in one household, Bartholomew in one and Jonas Lawson. However in 1848 John Lawson pays 2 tithes for his household - one for himself and one for William Lawson. Was this John and his father or John and his son? In 1750 John pays 3 tithes, one for himself, one for William and one for John Lawson Jr. There was a William Lawson in his own household that paid one tithe. In 1752 we have John Sr., John and Jonas but each in their own households. All of these men would have had to be over sixteen years for them to have to pay tithes. The law at this time stated that "male persons of the age of sixteen years and upwards" were required to pay tithes. To see a list of all these tithes, see my webpage http://lawsondna.org/Pages/William1timeline.html or http://lawsondna.org/Media/virginiacounties/Lunenburg.html So by 1750 we have in the Falling River area the following Lawsons: - William, John Sr., John Jr., a second William, Jonas, a second Jonas and Bartholomew Lawson and they are all over 16 years of age. I believe these are all male members of William Lawson of Falling River family. William Lawson of Falling River, died before April 1754. In Deed Book #4, page 320 Lunenburg County, Virginia. John, Jonas and Bartholomew Lawson of Lunenburg County, Virginia sold to Thomas Watkins of same for 30 pounds, land North side of Falling River, being that wherein his father William Lawson did live, containing 143 acres. John Lawson executed the land sale. There was no mention of a son Joshua Lawson? The above shows us the three sons of William Lawson and they are John, Jonas and Bartholomew Lawson. It also shows us the possible children of John Lawson by tax records in Lunenburg County and they may be William, John Jr. and Jonas Lawson. The county changes its name from Lunenburg to Bedford County and the next interesting list is the Bedford County, Virginia, Insolvents List 1762 - William Lawson (run away), John Lawson, John Lawson, Jr., David Lawson, Jonas Lawson all owed 5 lbs. tobacco, Bartlett Lawson owed 10 lbs. tobacco. Found in "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly", Vol. XXIII, number 3, (1 August 1985) page 72. We next find in Bedford County, VA John, John Jr., David, Jonas, Bartlett and William in a number of court cases, probably to do with their insolvent problems. Then the next interesting list is the Bedford County, Virginia - 1763 Tithes - Wm. Lawson, 1 tithe John Lawson B.E., 1 tithe Jonas Lawson, 1 tithe David Lawson, 1 tithe Found in "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly", Vol. XXIII, number 3, (1 August 1985) page 73. After 1763 all these Lawson are gone out of Bedford County, VA. Where did they go? Did the above 4 go to Surry County, NC and are these the sons of John Lawson Sr.? Bedford County, Virginia, Deed Book 2, pages 268-270, dated 9 September 1763, Bartholomew Lawson of the County of Bedford sold to Michael Pruit of the said County of Bedford for the sum of forty five pounds one hundred acres, that tract situated, lying and being in the County of Bedford on the south side of Falling River bequeathed to the said Lawson by John Simkins, deceased. Signed Bartholomew (his mark) Lawson. Witnesses were Thomas Watkins and James Prewit. Recorded 27 September 1763, Teste Ben Howard CBC. Susanna inherited this 100 acres from her father, John Simkin's estate, which she was to receive upon her mother's death. This may be about the time Bartholomew moved his family to Cumberland County, North Carolina? Here is what we find in that county: - Abstracts of Minutes of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of Cumberland County, North Carolina - October 1755-January 1779, Vol. I - 20 February 1765, Ordered on motion of P. Ballard, attorney for Susannah Lawson, widow of Bartholomew Lawson, late of this county, that she have letters of administration on his estate, securities: Thomas Collins and John Overton, bond: 500 pounds, proc., she then qualifying. By 1765 Bartholomew Lawson is dead and we are not sure how long his family remained there but by 1778 Susannah and some of her family are just north of Surry and Stokes Counties in Henry County (later Patrick County), VA. We have a James, William, Moreman, John, David, William (Big Billey), Jonas and later by 1790 we have a Bartlett, Robert, Thomas, and another David. That is the earliest records I have seen for Henry County. By 1772 the tax records shows a Jonas Lawson in the Surry County, N. C., and in 1774 Mormon Lawson is taxed there. Were there two Mormons (Moreman) or was he just moving across the state lines? We may need to look at the Rowan County records because Surry County was formed from Rowan in 1771. Anyway we find William, Jonas, David and John obtaining land in Surry County, which later ends up in Stokes County, NC. As you can see we have lot's of Lawsons in this Surry and Stokes Counties, NC and Henry and Patrick Counties area by 1800. This area I figure is less than 36 square miles. I do believe that most of these Lawson are related to William Lawson of Falling River but how do you sort them out? I believe we have a good idea of the names of 4 of John BE Lawson's sons. They are Thomas, Patmon, Clem and John. There are so many John Lawsons in early Tennessee that it is hard to figure out, which one is which because we do not have any Bibles or wills that help us (or at least I have not seen them). As for John Goober Pea Lawson. The tax records I have seen shows him with no land tax, so I assume he does not have any land: - Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1794 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Bartlett; 1 white poll Lawson, David; 75 acres Lawson, John (B. Eye); 200 acres Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Lawson, Patmon; 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherrod; 1 white poll Lawson, William; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1794 Capt. Dearing's District. Lowson, Burrel; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1794 True return of Insolvents. Lawson, John Jr.; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1795 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Bartholomew; 1 white poll Lawson, Jones (Jonas); 400 acres Lawson, Sherwood; 1 white poll Lawson, John B. Eye; 200 acres Lawson, John G. Pea; 1 white poll Lawson, Burwell; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1796 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, John Jr.; 50 acres Lawson, John Sr.; 200 acres Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Lawson, Patmon; 100 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherod; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1796 Capt. Ward's District. Lawson, Burel; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1797 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, John (Black Eye); 200 acres Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Lawson, Junr. (Believe to be John Jr.); 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Patman; 75 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherrod; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1797 Capt. Ward's District. Lawson, Burrel; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1798 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Sherrid; 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Patman; 75 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, John (Gober Pea); 1 white poll Lawson, Isham (B. E.) (John B. E.?); 200 acres Lawson, David Jf. (Jeff. or Jr.?); 50 acres Lawson, John Jr.; 1 white poll Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1798 Capt. Ward's District. Lawson, Burril; 1 white poll Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlllawson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe you will find that Lunenburg County was formed from Brunswick County in 1746. Halifax County was taken from the western lands of Lunenburg County in 1752. Bedford County was taken from Lunenburg County in 1754. Pittsylvania County was formed from Halifax County in 1767. Henry County was formed from Pittsylvania County in 1777. Patrick County was formed from Henry County in 1791 and lastly Campbell County was form from Bedford County in 1782. William Lawson of Falling Rivers obtained his land in Brunswick County, VA: - Virginia Land Patent Book 23, page 1120, dated 20 August 1745, William Lawson, 143 acres in Brunswick County, Virginia, for 15 shilling, on the north side of Falling River. You will find Falling River north of the northeast tri-corner of present day Campbell, Charlotte and Halifax Counties and it flows into the Roanoke (Staunton) River. Therefore the land that William owned was originally in Brunswick County, then Lunenburg County, then Bedford County and today it is located in Campbell County, VA. >From the list of tithes for 1748, 1749, 1750 and 1752 we find the following Lawsons in Lunenburg County, VA: - John in one household, Bartholomew in one and Jonas Lawson. However in 1848 John Lawson pays 2 tithes for his household - one for himself and one for William Lawson. Was this John and his father or John and his son? In 1750 John pays 3 tithes, one for himself, one for William and one for John Lawson Jr. There was a William Lawson in his own household that paid one tithe. In 1752 we have John Sr., John and Jonas but each in their own households. All of these men would have had to be over sixteen years for them to have to pay tithes. The law at this time stated that "male persons of the age of sixteen years and upwards" were required to pay tithes. To see a list of all these tithes, see my webpage http://lawsondna.org/Pages/William1timeline.html or http://lawsondna.org/Media/virginiacounties/Lunenburg.html So by 1750 we have in the Falling River area the following Lawsons: - William, John Sr., John Jr., a second William, Jonas, a second Jonas and Bartholomew Lawson and they are all over 16 years of age. I believe these are all male members of William Lawson of Falling River family. William Lawson of Falling River, died before April 1754. In Deed Book #4, page 320 Lunenburg County, Virginia. John, Jonas and Bartholomew Lawson of Lunenburg County, Virginia sold to Thomas Watkins of same for 30 pounds, land North side of Falling River, being that wherein his father William Lawson did live, containing 143 acres. John Lawson executed the land sale. There was no mention of a son Joshua Lawson? The above shows us the three sons of William Lawson and they are John, Jonas and Bartholomew Lawson. It also shows us the possible children of John Lawson by tax records in Lunenburg County and they may be William, John Jr. and Jonas Lawson. The county changes its name from Lunenburg to Bedford County and the next interesting list is the Bedford County, Virginia, Insolvents List 1762 - William Lawson (run away), John Lawson, John Lawson, Jr., David Lawson, Jonas Lawson all owed 5 lbs. tobacco, Bartlett Lawson owed 10 lbs. tobacco. Found in "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly", Vol. XXIII, number 3, (1 August 1985) page 72. We next find in Bedford County, VA John, John Jr., David, Jonas, Bartlett and William in a number of court cases, probably to do with their insolvent problems. Then the next interesting list is the Bedford County, Virginia - 1763 Tithes - Wm. Lawson, 1 tithe John Lawson B.E., 1 tithe Jonas Lawson, 1 tithe David Lawson, 1 tithe Found in "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly", Vol. XXIII, number 3, (1 August 1985) page 73. After 1763 all these Lawson are gone out of Bedford County, VA. Where did they go? Did the above 4 go to Surry County, NC and are these the sons of John Lawson Sr.? Bedford County, Virginia, Deed Book 2, pages 268-270, dated 9 September 1763, Bartholomew Lawson of the County of Bedford sold to Michael Pruit of the said County of Bedford for the sum of forty five pounds one hundred acres, that tract situated, lying and being in the County of Bedford on the south side of Falling River bequeathed to the said Lawson by John Simkins, deceased. Signed Bartholomew (his mark) Lawson. Witnesses were Thomas Watkins and James Prewit. Recorded 27 September 1763, Teste Ben Howard CBC. Susanna inherited this 100 acres from her father, John Simkin's estate, which she was to receive upon her mother's death. This may be about the time Bartholomew moved his family to Cumberland County, North Carolina? Here is what we find in that county: - Abstracts of Minutes of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of Cumberland County, North Carolina - October 1755-January 1779, Vol. I - 20 February 1765, Ordered on motion of P. Ballard, attorney for Susannah Lawson, widow of Bartholomew Lawson, late of this county, that she have letters of administration on his estate, securities: Thomas Collins and John Overton, bond: 500 pounds, proc., she then qualifying. By 1765 Bartholomew Lawson is dead and we are not sure how long his family remained there but by 1778 Susannah and some of her family are just north of Surry and Stokes Counties in Henry County (later Patrick County), VA. We have a James, William, Moreman, John, David, William (Big Billey), Jonas and later by 1790 we have a Bartlett, Robert, Thomas, and another David. That is the earliest records I have seen for Henry County. By 1772 the tax records shows a Jonas Lawson in the Surry County, N. C., and in 1774 Mormon Lawson is taxed there. Were there two Mormons (Moreman) or was he just moving across the state lines? We may need to look at the Rowan County records because Surry County was formed from Rowan in 1771. Anyway we find William, Jonas, David and John obtaining land in Surry County, which later ends up in Stokes County, NC. As you can see we have lot's of Lawsons in this Surry and Stokes Counties, NC and Henry and Patrick Counties area by 1800. This area I figure is less than 36 square miles. I do believe that most of these Lawson are related to William Lawson of Falling River but how do you sort them out? I believe we have a good idea of the names of 4 of John BE Lawson's sons. They are Thomas, Patmon, Clem and John. There are so many John Lawsons in early Tennessee that it is hard to figure out, which one is which because we do not have any Bibles or wills that help us (or at least I have not seen them). As for John Goober Pea Lawson. The tax records I have seen shows him with no land tax, so I assume he does not have any land: - Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1794 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Bartlett; 1 white poll Lawson, David; 75 acres Lawson, John (B. Eye); 200 acres Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Lawson, Patmon; 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherrod; 1 white poll Lawson, William; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1794 Capt. Dearing's District. Lowson, Burrel; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1794 True return of Insolvents. Lawson, John Jr.; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1795 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Bartholomew; 1 white poll Lawson, Jones (Jonas); 400 acres Lawson, Sherwood; 1 white poll Lawson, John B. Eye; 200 acres Lawson, John G. Pea; 1 white poll Lawson, Burwell; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1796 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, John Jr.; 50 acres Lawson, John Sr.; 200 acres Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Lawson, Patmon; 100 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherod; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1796 Capt. Ward's District. Lawson, Burel; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1797 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, John (Black Eye); 200 acres Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Lawson, Junr. (Believe to be John Jr.); 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Patman; 75 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Sherrod; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1797 Capt. Ward's District. Lawson, Burrel; 1 white poll Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1798 Capt. Cloud's District. Lawson, Sherrid; 50 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, Patman; 75 acres, 1 white poll Lawson, John (Gober Pea); 1 white poll Lawson, Isham (B. E.) (John B. E.?); 200 acres Lawson, David Jf. (Jeff. or Jr.?); 50 acres Lawson, John Jr.; 1 white poll Lawson, Jonas; 400 acres Stokes County, N. C., Tax List 1798 Capt. Ward's District. Lawson, Burril; 1 white poll Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geoffreyrlawson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Current research seems to suggest: Sons of William of "Falling River" 1. Joshua Lawson (1701-c.1756) - father of Anna Lawson below 2. John "Black Eye" Lawson (c.1713-1758) - father of John Jr. below 3. Jonas Lawson 4. Barclay Lawson (1727-1764/5) 5. Others (?) My line as current research seems to suggest: 1.William "of Falling River" Lawson (c.1680-1754) 2. John "Black Eye" Lawson (c.1713-c.1803) 3. John Lawson, Jr. (1751-1838) m. Anna Lawson (c.1757-c.1844) 4. Joshua Lawson (1788-1844) m Talitha 5. Governor Sevier Lawson (1810-1878) m Cynthia Ann Gardner I'm sorry to say I don't have the definitive proof that you probably want but let me explain my thinking a bit. The key for me is in understanding the migration of the various branches of this family from place-to-place. They seem to have been quite transitory as each generation picked up and moved large distances. Because each generation of my line in particular moved so often, to be able to proof paternity, one must have been in the right place at the right time - which was a narrow time frame. Because we know John (1751-1838) and Anna (c.1757-c.1844) were cousins, John had to be a grandson or nephew of William of Falling River. "Black Eye" seems to be the missing link as all the other possibilities I have looked at involved my line crisscrossing VA, NC, TN, and KY to get to IL and back to VA all too many times to be believable. My line has a solid paper trail back to John Lawson of Snow Creek, Stokes (Surry) County, NC. This John stated on record after moving to Morgan County, TN from NC that he was born in Bedford (Lunenburg) County, VA. It is also known that he fought with his father John, Sr. in the Revolutionary War while living in Snow Creek and that John, Sr. returned to Bedford County, VA for a time during the war. This leads me to think the progression was Falling River, VA and vicinity, to Snow Creek, NC and vicinity, to Morgan County, TN, to Scott/Greene Counties, IL and nowhere else. This eliminates most if not all others I have looked at as the father of my John. In other words, I think John, Sr., John "Black Eye" Lawson, and John "of Falling River" (c.1813-1758), are one and the same person. When William of Falling River died in 1754, his land was sold off in Bedford (Lunenburg) County, VA and his sons parted ways and moved south and west. Joshua moved to Morgan County, TN where his daughter Anna was born. John "Black Eye" and Jonas moved over the VA/NC line into Stokes (Surry) County, NC, and Bartholomew moved to Cumberland County, NC near Fayetteville. John Lawson, Jr. (1751-1838) and Anna Lawson (c.1757-c.1844) were married on 29 Jan 1775 in Surry County, NC. Anna traveled to NC from TN as a young woman to visit her extended family and presumably decided to stay and marry her cousin. John Sr. and John Jr. fought together in the Revolutionary War and both returned to their home to Surry County, NC after the war. When John "Black Eye" Lawson died about 1803 his land was sold, and again like the previous generation, his sons parted ways and moved farther south and west. John Jr. and Anna moved to Morgan County, TN by 1810 to be with her family and his brother Randolph moved to Clinton County, KY. John and Anna's son Joshua was born in Snow Creek, Surry County, NC and moved to Winchester, Scott County, IL in 1838/9. He traveled by way of Saint Louis, MO to get there. What prove exists that John Lawson (1751-1838) and Randolph Lawson (1752-1848) were born in Bladen County, NC (in the southeast corner of the state)? This seems highly unlikely to me as there seems to be no time between living in Bedford (Lunenburg) County, VA, Stokes (Surry) County, NC (northwest corner of the state), and Morgan County, TN for this to be true; at least for John, Jr. that is. If true, it would blow my whole theory out of the water. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geoffreyrlawson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Current research seems to suggest: Sons of William of "Falling River" 1. Joshua Lawson (1701-c.1756) - father of Anna Lawson below 2. John "Black Eye" Lawson (c.1713-1758) - father of John Jr. below 3. Jonas Lawson 4. Barclay Lawson (1727-1764/5) 5. Others (?) My line as current research seems to suggest: 1.William "of Falling River" Lawson (c.1680-1754) 2. John "Black Eye" Lawson (c.1713-c.1803) 3. John Lawson, Jr. (1751-1838) m. Anna Lawson (c.1757-c.1844) 4. Joshua Lawson (1788-1844) m Talitha 5. Governor Sevier Lawson (1810-1878) m Cynthia Ann Gardner I'm sorry to say I don't have the definitive proof that you probably want but let me explain my thinking a bit. The key for me is in understanding the migration of the various branches of this family from place-to-place. They seem to have been quite transitory as each generation picked up and moved large distances. Because each generation of my line in particular moved so often, to be able to proof paternity, one must have been in the right place at the right time - which was a narrow time frame. Because we know John (1751-1838) and Anna (c.1757-c.1844) were cousins, John had to be a grandson or nephew of William of Falling River. "Black Eye" seems to be the missing link as all the other possibilities I have looked at involved my line crisscrossing VA, NC, TN, and KY to get to IL and back to VA all too many times to be believable. My line has a solid paper trail back to John Lawson of Snow Creek, Stokes (Surry) County, NC. This John stated on record after moving to Morgan County, TN from NC that he was born in Bedford (Lunenburg) County, VA. It is also known that he fought with his father John, Sr. in the Revolutionary War while living in Snow Creek and that John, Sr. returned to Bedford County, VA for a time during the war. This leads me to think the progression was Falling River, VA and vicinity, to Snow Creek, NC and vicinity, to Morgan County, TN, to Scott/Greene Counties, IL and nowhere else. This eliminates most if not all others I have looked at as the father of my John. In other words, I think John, Sr., John "Black Eye" Lawson, and John "of Falling River" (c.1813-1758), are one and the same person. When William of Falling River died in 1754, his land was sold off in Bedford (Lunenburg) County, VA and his sons parted ways and moved south and west. Joshua moved to Morgan County, TN where his daughter Anna was born. John "Black Eye" and Jonas moved over the VA/NC line into Stokes (Surry) County, NC, and Bartholomew moved to Cumberland County, NC near Fayetteville. John Lawson, Jr. (1751-1838) and Anna Lawson (c.1757-c.1844) were married on 29 Jan 1775 in Surry County, NC. Anna traveled to NC from TN as a young woman to visit her extended family and presumably decided to stay and marry her cousin. John Sr. and John Jr. fought together in the Revolutionary War and both returned to their home to Surry County, NC after the war. When John "Black Eye" Lawson died about 1803 his land was sold, and again like the previous generation, his sons parted ways and moved farther south and west. John Jr. and Anna moved to Morgan County, TN by 1810 to be with her family and his brother Randolph moved to Clinton County, KY. John and Anna's son Joshua was born in Snow Creek, Surry County, NC and moved to Winchester, Scott County, IL in 1838/9. He traveled by way of Saint Louis, MO to get there. What prove exists that John Lawson (1751-1838) and Randolph Lawson (1752-1848) were born in Bladen County, NC (in the southeast corner of the state)? This seems highly unlikely to me as there seems to be no time between living in Bedford (Lunenburg) County, VA, Stokes (Surry) County, NC (northwest corner of the state), and Morgan County, TN for this to be true; at least for John, Jr. that is. If true, it would blow my whole theory out of the water. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dhlell_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Geoff, Why do you "think" John "Black Eye" Lawson was father of John and Randolph? If true, and we are able to document, it would conclude 3 decades of research. Darryl Lawson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dhlell_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Geoff, Why do you "think" William "Black Eye" Lawson was father of John and Randolph? If true, and we are able to document, it would conclude 3 decades of research. Darryl Lawson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geoffreyrlawson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6719.6.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I originally started this post back before I knew much about this family. My DNA test confirms me as a "Falling River" Lawson. I am a descendant of the John Lawson who was born in North Carolina, died in Tennessee, and married Anna Lawson. This is also the John who fought in the Revolutionary War and is referred to as John, Jr. as he fought with his father. I think this father was John "Black Eye" Lawson. In an application, filed 20 February 1840 in Morgan County, Tennessee, Anna states the following: 1. That she was the wife of John Lawson and married him in 1775. 2. That John's brother, Randolph Lawson, was two year younger than John. 3. That she was a cousin to John and Randolph Lawson. Anna has a good paper trail herself. She was the daughter of Joshua Lawson, and likely the granddaughter of "William of Falling River". Now, since Anna said she was a cousin to John and Randolph (which I have to assume means either a first or second cousin as it would otherwise be irrelevant). This means, if all of the above is true, John "Black Eye" Lawson is either the son or nephew of "William of Falling River". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CelesteHolly51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, as they teach doctors "if one hears hoof beats think horses not zebras" (unless you are in Africa! LOL) I did say that it could be possible that a Native American male took the Hooker name and could have had relatives/brothers or cousins who did not take that Hooker surname, but since the Crowe guy does not match other Crowes except that one Crowe line and he matches Hookers, and your Lawson does not match other Lawson lines but matches Hookers and that one Crowe, the most likely explanation is the Hooker (or male relative of that first one who took the Hooker name, if you like) fathered David. Since David was most likely born 1803 in an area where there were Hookers males - that seems most probable. Celeste Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jlakin46 Surnames: Lawson Hooker Crowe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If there is one thing I am certian of, well, as certian as one can be in genealogy, it's that anything is possible. Who knows....my David could be descended from the same N/A as your Hooker line. And there's no telling when that happened; 1600s, 1700s??? It's very possible that in the 1600s a N/A male had sons and each of them had wives (I'm using the term losely here) that had children. One of the sons could be your ancestor and the other mine. Maybe Elizabeth Lawson had a child by one of the descendants of that N/A male...Perhaps the Crowe line came from yet another of those descendants? Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CelesteHolly51 Surnames: Hooker, Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, I think you can rest assured that Elizabeth Lawson had a child fathered by a Hooker, or at least by a male relative of the PCVA Hookers in that Native American/Cherokee line. That takes our lines back to c 1700 which is as far as many of us will ever get. We know it is not a European haplo so, in the male line, it does not go back to England or Europe. In my one English line I only got back to 1695 in Enlgish/Cambridgeshire records as that is as far as Cambridgeshire records go with any consistency. Some counties in England have earlier records but not all. So c 1700 is pretty good, esp in this country. We probably will never know the given names of that/those first Native American male/males who called themselves by the Hooker surname. Robin/Robert Hooker, Jr is the first definite name we have - he was b c 1730. His father might be that Robert (Sr) Hooker who acquired land in that area that later became Pitts., Henry and PCVA in the 1740s and 50s. Celeste Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jlakin46 Surnames: Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I can only hope that some one with the right DNA and more info than I have joins the search before I die! We have looked at census records archives, reconstructed tax lists, run up phone bills and even hired a professional genealogist a few years ago. I keep thinking, SOMEONE in WV knows something....if I could just find him (or her)! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jlakin46 Surnames: Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lawson/6860.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Carl, I agree with everything you said....However in the case of our David Lawson, we have tracked enough of his descendants who have their own oral traditions regarding N/A ancestry. My own grandfather contributed to these. He claimed to be 1/4. Another cousin, whose ancestor was a different wife of David's, said his grandmother claimed to be 1/8. Several others have tossed their percentages into the ring as well. From this info, either David was full blood and his wife was white....or David was 1/2 and his wife was 1/2 There is still the possibility too, after all the others mentioned concerning his parentage, that his mother Elizabeth unknown was one of the mLawsons connected to the William Lawson "The Scottish Rebel" and that she gave her son her last name. This seems to be d distinct possibility as our David was living in the middle of that clan in 1830 Scott Co VA. Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.