Hi. I am new to this mailing list and to looking for distant relatives. Any information you may have regarding the background of Reuben Laws born 1842 (?) in Georgia or his wife, Caroline Sullivan, born 1839 (?) in Mississippi who be greatly appreciated. In addition, any information about the general derivation of the Laws family or name would be interesting. Thanks. Tom Laws

Hello, LAWS list; Just found this in my files. Amy LAWS is mentioned about halfway down. Sandra in Sacramento ================================================ >To: [email protected] >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: DYER finally read & "THANK YOU" > >Jim; > > Sorry it took longer to get back to you than I planned. Just didn't plan for so much mail on so many lines. > > After I sat and digested what you sent, I was amazed. This is really my husband's line. Thank you, so very very much. > > Yes, tell me where I can get a copy of this book. Am always anxious to add more data to my PAF. As a matter of fact, you may have tied me into some of the east coast DYER's I keep reading about. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > After reading it, realized you have given me your descent. Well, is there any chance you have a descendency chart from William Jr.? > > You and Richard (my husband) are relatives, I am junt not sure how. And, his mother is the DYER. > > Also, as I read what you sent & checked out the names against those in my PAF file, I am sure that Watson B. DYER must have used the same book for much of what he wrote. > > It is a great book, but there is no documentation. (I'm guilty, too) It is also fraught with glaring errors, even in the stuff I sent him. HOwever, if one know that, one can use such a book as a guide. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > If I did not tell you before, I have a book written by a cousin, Watson B. DYER, now deceased. If there is anything I can copy for you, let me know. > >More later.................................................... > > >At 02:15 AM 3/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Sandra: >> >>The book that contains the Dyer genealogy is called "Genealogy and History of >>Pense and Allied Families by Beverly Pense. My great-great grandmother was >>Margret M. Dyer who married John Patrick Pense (listed as Ponce in your >>file). I have spoken briefly with the author prior to receiving the book, but >>have not discussed the material specifically, so I am not sure how accurate >>her sources are. I plan on being in touch with her again soon. There are >>several pages of information on the Dyer family which I don't have entered >>into my computer yet, so I will just review the direct line for now. >> >>The chapter begins by discussing three Dyers who came to America from England >>between 1620 and 1630. The direct ancestor was William, b. between 1600 and >>1610. He was from Strand, England and came to America in 1630, sailing on the >>"Whale" and disembarking at Dorchester. With him were is wife Mary and sons >>Samuel, Henry and William. The author states that they settled in Boston in >>1635. It also states that Mary, a Quaker, was hung for her beliefs June 1, >>1660. >> >>William and Mary's son William had a son Joseph b. in VA. Joseph had a son >>John, b. abt 1710 in VA. John married twice. Children from his first wife are >>listed as Nancy (m. Byrd Pruitt) and Agnes (m. Wm. Chick). Other children are >>listed as James, John Jr., Joshua and Elijah (b 1740-1745, m. Amey Laws 1765, >>d. 1812). It is unclear who their mother was from the text. The family moved >>to NC abt. 1779 after the death of their father. >> >>Elijah and Amey had nine children, the same as on your list. The unkown >>child is not listed in the book. One of their children was Caleb. He married >>Rebecca Howard (b. Feb 10, 1778 in NC). Her parents are listed as Benjamin >>Howard and Prudence Sater (dau of Henry Sater and Dorcas Townson). >> >>Caleb and Rebecca are noted to have had 9 children, four of whom are >>mentioned: Benjamin (b. 1798 in NC, d. 1834, m. Martha Patsy Pogue) , Elisha >>(b. 1800, m. Polly Townsley, d. 1889), Betsy (b. 1802, m. Wm. Mooney, d. >>1832), George Sater (b. 1804, m. first Almira Ada 1835, second Catherine >>Bean), and Joel (b. 1807, m. Sarah Ann Talkington, d. 1863). >> >>The children of George Sater Dyer are the same as you list, but the last >>three, Susan, Margret and Robert Sater list Catherine Bean as their mother. >> >>As I stated before, Margret (b. Apr 13, 1851, d. Sep 3, 1929)married John >>Patrick Pense (b. abt 1848, Jackson Co., AL, d. Mar 1939). They lived in >>Winfrey, Crawford, AR. They had nine children. My great grandmother was >>Hannah R. Pense, b. 1873. She married Robert H. Seabourn. Their daughter >>Fleta married Robert E. Loomis. My father was James F. Loomis, Sr. >> >>There is some more info in the book about the Dyer line. Let me know if there >>is anything else you would like me to check on. I will try and verify sources >>soon. >> >>Jim >> >================================================================ > Sandra Eleanor (T Y L E R) D U N C A N [email protected] SURNAMES: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 LIST-MANAGER OF =C U R R E N C E= =D A B N E Y= =D A N N= K E I S T E R= =M A R T E N E Y= =S L A G L E= =V A N S C O Y= VAALBEMA-L & [email protected] & many more, just ask!! I AM A PROUD "S P O N S O R" OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com/

The following obit is from "The State" newspaper (S.C.) September 9, 1997: INEZ LAWS COLUMBIA -- Services for Inez Myers Laws 63, will be held at 3 p.m. Monday at Saint Mark Baptist Church with burial in Palmetto Cemetery. Viewing will be 2 p.m. until service. Bostick-Tompkins Funeral Home is in charge. Mrs. Laws, widow of Thomas Laws Sr., died Wednesday, Sept. 17, 1997. Born in Richland Co., she was a daughter of the late Morris and Louise Thompson Myers. Surviving are sons, Ronnie Myers, Thomas Myers, Gregory Laws, all of Columbia; daughters, Dorothy Richie of Philadelphia, Lorraine Fripp, Evelyn Ashley, both of Columbia; brother, Lonnie Myers of Columbia; 11 grandchildren. Wanda Rabb researching RABB (NC/SC), (GANTT (NC), NIX, ROBERTSON, WILSON, CONNER, JONES (Rutherford Co.NC), LAWS (Yancey,Rutherford Co., NC), EDWARDS & KELLEY (NC), CAUSBY & PATTON (Burke/McDowell Co., NC) PAXTON (Union Co, NC > Lancaster, SC), FARRIS & MORRIS (York Co., SC) LOVELACE, HAMRICK, GREEN, and MCSWAIN (Cleveland Co., NC) Listowner for CAUSBY, FARRIS, LAWS, NIX, PAXTON and RABB Family Mailing LIsts Homepage: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr Genealogy Main Page: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr/main.html

Please join me in welcoming another new member to our list: [email protected] We hope you will introduce yourself and tell us about the family you are researching! Wanda Rabb researching RABB (NC/SC), (GANTT (NC), NIX, ROBERTSON, WILSON, CONNER, JONES (Rutherford Co.NC), LAWS (Yancey,Rutherford Co., NC), EDWARDS & KELLEY (NC), CAUSBY & PATTON (Burke/McDowell Co., NC) PAXTON (Union Co, NC > Lancaster, SC), FARRIS & MORRIS (York Co., SC) LOVELACE, HAMRICK, GREEN, and MCSWAIN (Cleveland Co., NC) Listowner for CAUSBY, FARRIS, LAWS, NIX, PAXTON and RABB Family Mailing LIsts Homepage: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr Genealogy Main Page: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr/main.html

I have a Lyman LAW b abt 1813 in CT who married Fanny ?? and lived in Wayne County, PA with daughter Sarepta LAW b abt 1853. I had been told his parents were Lyman LAW and Elizabeth Learned from New London, CT, but don't have verification on that and recently was told his parents might be Benedict A. LAW and Thankful ?? of Litchfield, CT. I'm looking for any one with New England LAW connections, especially from CT. Thanks, Carol

Linda wrote: >I found some common names in the list, esp. Shadrack Laws which is rather >unusual. However, the address for Earl McReynolds is no longer accurate. >Any suggestions as to how to contact him? I seem to recall him being on the LOVELACE list. I will post a note there and see if anyone knows his current address. Wanda Rabb researching RABB (NC/SC), (GANTT (NC), NIX, ROBERTSON, WILSON, CONNER, JONES (Rutherford Co.NC), LAWS (Yancey,Rutherford Co., NC), EDWARDS & KELLEY (NC), CAUSBY & PATTON (Burke/McDowell Co., NC) PAXTON (Union Co, NC > Lancaster, SC), FARRIS & MORRIS (York Co., SC) LOVELACE, HAMRICK, GREEN, and MCSWAIN (Cleveland Co., NC) Listowner for CAUSBY, FARRIS, LAWS, NIX, PAXTON and RABB Family Mailing LIsts Homepage: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr Genealogy Main Page: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr/main.html

I found some common names in the list, esp. Shadrack Laws which is rather unusual. However, the address for Earl McReynolds is no longer accurate. Any suggestions as to how to contact him? LINDA ---------------------------------------------- At 06:49 PM 09/22/1997 -0400, you wrote: >Sandra <[email protected]> ran across the following in the ROOTS-L members >library. We thought some of you might be interested in the data. > >>> From netcom.com!mcreynol Sat Jan 22 04:46:10 1994 >>> From: [email protected] (Earl McReynolds) >>> Subject: Submission: Genealog: Laws: 1 of 1 ..snip..

Please join me in welcoming a new member to our list: [email protected] We hope you will introduce yourself and tell us about the family you are researching! Wanda Rabb researching RABB (NC/SC), (GANTT (NC), NIX, ROBERTSON, WILSON, CONNER, JONES (Rutherford Co.NC), LAWS (Yancey,Rutherford Co., NC), EDWARDS & KELLEY (NC), CAUSBY & PATTON (Burke/McDowell Co., NC) PAXTON (Union Co, NC > Lancaster, SC), FARRIS & MORRIS (York Co., SC) LOVELACE, HAMRICK, GREEN, and MCSWAIN (Cleveland Co., NC) Listowner for CAUSBY, FARRIS, LAWS, NIX, PAXTON and RABB Family Mailing LIsts Homepage: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr Genealogy Main Page: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr/main.html

Sandra <[email protected]> ran across the following in the ROOTS-L members library. We thought some of you might be interested in the data. >> From netcom.com!mcreynol Sat Jan 22 04:46:10 1994 >> From: [email protected] (Earl McReynolds) >> Subject: Submission: Genealog: Laws: 1 of 1 I am seeking information on the decendants or ancestors of John Laws. John Laws was born before 1747 and died about 1812 in Knox County, Kentucky. He was married to Betsy ____?____ and had several children. Many of his decendants migrated into Missouri in the mid-later 1800's. All names on this list are directly connected by either birth or marriage. I suspect that this Laws Family may be directly connected to a Laws Family which resided in Wilkes County, North Carolina. Any information that you have on any member of this family is greatly appreciated and any inquiries regarding this Family will receive a prompt response. Thank you for your interest. Earl "Mac" McReynolds 5th Great Grandson of John Laws Decendants of John & Betsy Laws ca1750 Knox County, Kentucky 22 Jan 1994 ============================================================================== SURNAME, Given -RIN Born Died Spouse or *Father Name -RIN Place Born Place Died ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ,Betsy-6084 1747 1812 John LAWS-4760 ,Knox Co.,KY ,Elizabeth-4747 1832 1880 William LAWS-4746 ,,KY ,Henrietta-6087 1871 Joshua HOPPER-6088 ,M.-6097 1780 1840 Thomas LAWS-4759 ,Knox Co.,KY ,M. Belle-4749 1861 John M. LAWS-4748 ,,IL ,Martha J.-6086 1852 1932 Samuel LAWS-4773 ,Mercer Co.,MO ANDERSON,Jeff-4785 Sherry LAWS-4782 ANDERSON,Nicholas-4786 *Jeff ANDERSON-4785 ARONIS,Tracy Ann-4778 1966 William Daren LAWS-4776 Everett,MC,MA BAILEY,Mottie Josephine-1496 1911 Homer William LAWS-1495 Atwood,HC,OK BEDKER,Douglas J.-171 1963 Denise Renee SANDERS-169 Ft. Lewis,,WA CARDEN,Liz-1506 Bobby Ray LAWS-1501 CARPENTER,Mary-6348 Jefferson PARTON E-6347 CAVANAUGH,Vincent-165 Adrian P MCREYNOLDS-36 CLARK-6341 Yvonne Louise WATKINS-6340 CLEMMANS,Ronda-4783 Allan LAWS-4781 COKONOUGHER,Dan-45 Adrian P MCREYNOLDS-36 FALES,Nellie Maude-6335 Thomas Eugene PARTON-6334 GILLION-4774 Emma LAWS-1518 HOPPER,Samantha-6083 1842 1883 Noah LAWS Jr.-4768 ,Mercer Co.,MO KIRK,Rebecca J.-1515 1844 1880 Hallance S LAWS-1514 ,,MO LADOUCEUR,Val-44 Adrian P MCREYNOLDS-36 LAWS-6105 1825 *Edmund LAWS-6093 LAWS-6106 1825 *Edmund LAWS-6093 LAWS-6107 1820 *Edmund LAWS-6093 LAWS-6108 1820 *Edmund LAWS-6093 LAWS-6109 1820 *Edmund LAWS-6093 LAWS-6110 1800 *Edmund LAWS-6093 LAWS-6111 1825 *Shadrack LAWS-6096 LAWS-6112 1825 *Shadrack LAWS-6096 LAWS,Allan-4781 Ronda CLEMMANS-4783 LAWS,Allie V.-4753 1863 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Alvatura-4480 1870 1880 *Hallance S LAWS-1514 Morgan Twp.,MC,MO ,,MO LAWS,Amanda-4486 1849 *Noah LAWS-4481 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Ann-6101 1800 Levi POWELL-6102 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Arthur L.-1509 1892 1969 *James Madison LAWS-1507 ,,MO LAWS,Betsy-6099 1800 Robert MASON-6100 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Billy Gene-1497 1937 Joy Katreen RICE-1503 Marysville,YC,CA LAWS,Bobby Ray-1501 Liz CARDEN-1506 LAWS,Chleo-1511 1896 1959 *James Madison LAWS-1507 ,,MO LAWS,Darla Janeen-4775 1959 1960 *Billy Gene LAWS-1497 Barstow,SBC,CA Barstow,SBC,CA LAWS,Darrel Lee-1498 Mary WEST-1504 LAWS,Dennis F.-1512 1901 *James Madison LAWS-1507 ,Dewey Co.,OK LAWS,Edmund-6093 1760 1831 *John LAWS-4760 ,Wilkes Co.,NC ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Ellen-4757 1869 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Emma-1518 1870 GILLION-4774 ,,MO LAWS,Eunice-1513 1904 Herman August RUNGE-4694 ,Dewey Co.,OK LAWS,Frances-6095 1800 *Thomas LAWS-4759 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Hallance Sylvester-1514 1832 1873 Rebecca J. KIRK-1515 ,Knox Co.,KY ,,MO LAWS,Heezekiah-4769 1842 *William LAWS-4764 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Homer William-1495 1908 1980 Mottie J BAILEY-1496 Rhea,Dewey Co.,OK Marysville,YC,CA LAWS,Imogene-1502 *Homer William LAWS-1495 LAWS,Isaac William-4780 1989 *William Daren LAWS-4776 Sacramento,SC,CA LAWS,James M.-4752 1860 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,James Madison-1507 1866 1945 Margaret E MILNER-1508 Morgan Twp.,MC,MO Thomas,Custer Co.,OK LAWS,John-4760 1747 1812 Betsy-6084 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,John-4767 1838 1871 Henrietta-6087 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,John M.-4748 1854 M. Belle-4749 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Lester Raymond-1510 1894 1966 *James Madison LAWS-1507 ,,MO LAWS,M. J.-4485 1846 *Noah LAWS-4481 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Mark Evan-4777 1964 *Billy Gene LAWS-1497 Roseville,PC,CA LAWS,Marsha Louise-1500 1942 John Arnold MCBEE S-1505 Marysville,YC,CA LAWS,Martha-4756 1870 1880 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Mary-4772 1846 *William LAWS-4764 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Mary A.-4758 1876 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Mary Catherine-4763 1845 *Noah LAWS-4481 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Meahala Jane-4751 1856 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Melba June-32 1930 Fred Wayne MCREYNOLDS-31 Butler,CC,OK LAWS,Melissa Grant-4754 1865 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Melvin Dean-1499 1935 *Homer William LAWS-1495 Butler,CC,OK LAWS,Meshack-6085 1779 1860 *John LAWS-4760 ,Wilkes Co.,NC LAWS,Nancy-6094 1800 Benjamin MESSER-6098 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Nancy Jane-4484 1844 *Noah LAWS-4481 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Nicole-4784 *Allan LAWS-4781 LAWS,Noah-4481 1806 1869 Elizabeth WATTS-4482 ,Knox Co.,KY ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Noah Jr.-4768 1840 1869 Samantha HOPPER-6083 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Noah Madison-4483 1841 1916 Belle SHOOK-4965 ,Knox Co.,KY ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Samuel-4773 1848 1911 Martha J.-6086 ,Knox Co.,KY ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Samuel Daren-4779 1987 *William Daren LAWS-4776 Sacramento,SC,CA LAWS,Sarah-4770 1846 *William LAWS-4764 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Sarah "Sally"-6103 1810 Calvin PARTON-6104 ,Knox Co.,KY ,,MO LAWS,Scott-4789 *Bobby Ray LAWS-1501 LAWS,Shadrack-6096 *John LAWS-4760 ,Wilkes Co.,NC LAWS,Sherry-4782 Jeff ANDERSON-4785 LAWS,Sylvester Jr.-1516 1863 *Hallance S LAWS-1514 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,Tabitha-4761 1836 *Noah LAWS-4481 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Tabitha-4771 1846 *William LAWS-4764 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Thomas-4759 1782 1856 M.-6097 ,Wilkes Co.,NC ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Thomas-4766 1836 *William LAWS-4764 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Thomas J.-4762 1839 *Noah LAWS-4481 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,Ulysses Grant-4755 1865 1940 *William LAWS-4746 ,Mercer Co.,MO ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,William-4746 1829 1880 Elizabeth-4747 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,William-4750 1880 *John M. LAWS-4748 ,Mercer Co.,MO LAWS,William-4764 1815 1867 Rebecca WATTS-4765 ,Knox Co.,KY LAWS,William Daren-4776 1961 Tracy Ann ARONIS-4778 Roseville,PC,CA LAWS,William R.-1517 1873 *Hallance S LAWS-1514 ,,MO MASON,Robert-6100 Betsy LAWS-6099 MCBEE,John Arnold Sonny-1505 1939 Marsha Louise LAWS-1500 Madera,,CA MCBEE,Michael-4787 1967 *John Arnold MCBEE S-1505 Yuba City,SC,CA MCKEE,McKenzie Jean-6222 1992 *Roy Taylor MCKEE-168 Phoenix,MC,AZ MCKEE,Roy Taylor-168 1968 Sandra Jean SNELL-167 Abilene,,TX MCREYNOLDS,Adrian Pauline-36 1949 Keith Guy SNELL-37 Roseburg,,OR MCREYNOLDS,Earl Wayne M-33 1951 *Fred Wayne MCREYNOLDS-31 Yuba City,SC,CA MCREYNOLDS,Fred Wayne-31 1925 1991 Juanita SPENCER-5130 Reeds Spring,SC,MO Lake Havasu City,,AZ MCREYNOLDS,Pamela Alene-34 1948 Dennis Owen SANDERS-35 Marysville,YC,CA MCREYNOLDS,Steven Lynn-38 1958 *Fred Wayne MCREYNOLDS-31 Yuba City,SC,CA MESSER,Benjamin-6098 Nancy LAWS-6094 METTZ,William E.-1367 Melba June LAWS-32 MILNER,Margaret E-1508 1873 1969 James Madison LAWS-1507 ,,MO MORGAN,John Tillman-6346 Margaret PARTON-6345 PARKER,George A.-6350 Marthia I. PARTON-6349 PARTON,Adelia May-6338 1924 James Daniel WATKINS-6339 ,DeKalb Co.,MO PARTON,Calvin-6104 Sarah LAWS "Sally"-6103 PARTON,Elizabeth-6344 1850 *Calvin PARTON-6104 ,Knox Co.,KY PARTON,Henry-6330 1848 Sarah E. SHARP-6331 ,Knox Co.,KY ,,MO PARTON,Jefferson "Elmer"-6347 1855 Mary CARPENTER-6348 ,,KY PARTON,Margaret-6345 1852 John Tillman MORGAN-6346 ,Knox Co.,KY PARTON,Marthia I.-6349 1860 George A. PARKER-6350 ,,MO PARTON,Susan-6351 1861 1895 *Calvin PARTON-6104 ,,MO ,,KS PARTON,Thomas Eugene-6334 1886 Nellie Maude FALES-6335 ,DeKalb Co.,MO PARTON,William-6352 *Calvin PARTON-6104 POOLE,Wayne David-1368 1933 Viola Victoria DEWITT-6289 Tamms,AC,IL POWELL,Levi-6102 Ann LAWS-6101 RICE,Joy Katreen-1503 1939 Billy Gene LAWS-1497 Bakersfield,KC,CA RUNGE,Herman August-4694 1987 Eunice LAWS-1513 SANDERS,Denise Renee-169 1965 Clyde Richard SPRUELL-170 Yuba City,SC,CA SANDERS,Dennis Owen-35 1944 Pamela Alene MCREYNOLDS-34 Marysville,YC,CA SANDERS,Rebecca Lynn-172 1987 *Clyde Richard SPRUELL-170 Sacramento,SC,CA SHARP,Sarah E.-6331 1868 1931 Henry PARTON-6330 ,DeKalb Co.,MO St. Joseph,,MO SHOOK,Belle-4965 1853 1937 Noah Madison LAWS-4483 ,Mercer Co.,MO SNELL,Keith Guy-37 Adrian P MCREYNOLDS-36 ,,,England SNELL,Robin Lee-166 1966 Glenn Paul STEWART-6291 Yuba City,SC,CA SNELL,Sandra Jean-167 1969 Roy Taylor MCKEE-168 Phoenix,MC,AZ SPRUELL,Clyde Richard-170 Denise Renee SANDERS-169 STEWART,Glenn Paul-6291 1970 Robin Lee SNELL-166 Oakland,,CA WATKINS,James Daniel-6339 1961 Adelia May PARTON-6338 WATKINS,Yvonne Louise-6340 1948 CLARK-6341 Stewartsville,D,MO WATTS,Elizabeth-4482 1806 1866 Noah LAWS-4481 ,,TN ,Mercer Co.,MO WATTS,Rebecca-4765 1815 1861 William LAWS-4764 ,,KY ,Mercer Co.,MO WEST,Mary-1504 Darrel Lee LAWS-1498 Wanda Rabb researching RABB (NC/SC), (GANTT (NC), NIX, ROBERTSON, WILSON, CONNER, JONES (Rutherford Co.NC), LAWS (Yancey,Rutherford Co., NC), EDWARDS & KELLEY (NC), CAUSBY & PATTON (Burke/McDowell Co., NC) PAXTON (Union Co, NC > Lancaster, SC), FARRIS & MORRIS (York Co., SC) LOVELACE, HAMRICK, GREEN, and MCSWAIN (Cleveland Co., NC) Listowner for CAUSBY, FARRIS, LAWS, NIX, PAXTON and RABB Family Mailing LIsts Homepage: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr Genealogy Main Page: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr/main.html

Thank you Wanda for the welcome to the Laws Mailing List. I am researching the Henry Law line to help a local woman get into the DAR. Her cousin has the lineage written out but does not have all the proof. Henry Law received a Revolutionary War Pension (S31196). He enlisted while he lived in Henry County VA and was living in Russell County KY when he applied for the pension on October 14, 1833. In the application, Henry states he was born January 4, 1759 in Henrico County VA. The lady I am trying to help is a descendant of Henry's son, Coleman Law. Coleman was supposedly born in May 1783 in Henry County, VA and died 17 Feb 1850 in Russell County, KY. He married Susannah Sutherland on 3 April 1806 in Franklin County, VA. What I need is proof (probate record, etc.) that Coleman is child of Henry. Is anyone else working on this line? I found this line on Ancestral File at Family History Center. Wrote to contributor who seemed to think may woman had used Henry Law as Revolutionary Ancestor for application to DAR and that DAR had erected a monument to Henry and his wife, Milley, at Webs Cross Roads where they are buried. I wrote DAR to see why they were not listed in Patriot Index. Reply indicated Henry Law has never been proven. All help, clues appreciated. Margaret in Springfield, MO

Forwarding this note that was posted to ROOTS-L. If anyone has information about this book, please contact Wendy.

Please join me in welcoming the following new folks to the list: [email protected] [email protected] We hope you will introduce yourselves and tell us about the line you are researching! Wanda Rabb researching RABB (NC/SC), (GANTT (NC), NIX, ROBERTSON, WILSON, CONNER, JONES (Rutherford Co.NC), LAWS (Yancey,Rutherford Co., NC), EDWARDS & KELLEY (NC), CAUSBY & PATTON (Burke/McDowell Co., NC) PAXTON (Union Co, NC > Lancaster, SC), FARRIS & MORRIS (York Co., SC) LOVELACE, HAMRICK, GREEN, and MCSWAIN (Cleveland Co., NC) Listowner for CAUSBY, FARRIS, LAWS, NIX, PAXTON and RABB Family Mailing LIsts Homepage: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr Genealogy Main Page: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr/main.html

Absolutely!, Jean, please do send me the info on "LAW" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` At 03:46 AM 9/16/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Law/Laws researchers, > >Sometime ago a young man in England sent me one and a half pages about the >history, name, crests, coat of arms, and names of some of the original >Law/Laws settlers in the new world. It dawned on me that many of you might >like to read it. Since it is not a query, I don't think I should post it. > However, if you want to contact me I will send it to you. It is very >interesting. > >Jean Suman [email protected] > >

I have noticed there was a list for this name, but I am not researching it, so not subscribed. However, a lady here at the Kingston, Tn library is looking for a book called JOHN LAW AND THE MISSISSIPPI BUBBLE, publ. ca 1869. She does not know the auther. She is not online. Can someone help her out here? If you know of the book, or where it can be found, please drop me a note either to this return or to my alternate accress, [email protected] Thanks, Wendy Wanda Rabb researching RABB (NC/SC), (GANTT (NC), NIX, ROBERTSON, WILSON, CONNER, JONES (Rutherford Co.NC), LAWS (Yancey,Rutherford Co., NC), EDWARDS & KELLEY (NC), CAUSBY & PATTON (Burke/McDowell Co., NC) PAXTON (Union Co, NC > Lancaster, SC), FARRIS & MORRIS (York Co., SC) LOVELACE, HAMRICK, GREEN, and MCSWAIN (Cleveland Co., NC) Listowner for CAUSBY, FARRIS, LAWS, NIX, PAXTON and RABB Family Mailing LIsts Homepage: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr Genealogy Main Page: http://www.netunlimited.net/~wcr/main.html

Hi Laws researchers, I sent out six copies to individuals who requested them last night. Now I see there are a number more requesting this article. My Laws go back to 1711 in MA., NH, VT, OH, IN, IL, and then KS. I had posted queries on each of my Laws families above the post about this article. If any one has any individual questions for me, you can write me at [email protected] I also belong to the LAWS registry in England. However, most of those researchers still live in England, with only a few of us in the USA. I hope you find this informative and enjoy it. Here is the article: The Ancient History of the Distinguished Surname: Law Few areas in Britain have produced as many notable families in world history such as the names of Armstrong, Nixon, Graham, Bell, Carson, Hume, Irving, Lock, Rutherford, as the Border regions of England and Scotland. The family name Law is included in this group. Researchers have confirmed the first documented history of this name is in Lowland Scotland and Northern England, tracing it through many ancient manuscripts including private collections of historical and genealogical records. The Inquisition, the Exchequer Rolls of Scotland, the Ragman Rolls, the Hearth Rolls, the Domesday Book, Paris Cartularies, Baptismals, and Tax Rolls. The first record of the name Law was found in Northumberland where they were lords off the manor and seated from very ancient times. Different spellings of the name were found in the archives researched, typically linking each alternate to the root source of the surname. The surname Law, occurred in many references from time to time. The surname was spelt LAW, LAWE, and LAWES, and these changes in spelling frequently occurred, even between father and son. Scribes and church officials recorded the name from its sound. The family name LAW is believed to be descended originally from the Strathclyde Britons. This ancient founding race of the north were a mixture of Gaelic / Celts whose original territories ranged from Lancashire in the south, northwards to the south bank of the river Clyde in Scotland. Tracing its ancient development , the name Law was found in Northumberland and intermarried with the powerful Border family of RIDDELL of Swinbourne Castle and Felton House. By the 15th. century they had moved north into Scotland and acquired estates at Anstruthers and Burntoun in Fifeshire, Cameron, Eastern Kinevie, and Newton, and Lauriston in Edinburgh. Of this latter branch the scion of the family was a Count of the Empire of France. By the 17th. century they had migrated south to England were they were established in Sussex and elevated to the Lords Ellenborough, the Earls of Ellenborough, and Viscounts Southam. They also acquired estates at Canon Hill in Berkshire, and in Stanmore and Newington in Middlesex. They became the Bishops of Carlisle, Bath, and Wells, and Archdeacon of Rochester. Their present family seats are at Coleraine, Marble Hill, Killaloe, and Lauriston. Notable amongst the family at this time was Lord Ellenborough. By the year 1000 AD Border life was in turmoil. In 1246, six chiefs from the Scottish side, and six from the English side met at Carlisle and produced a set of laws governing all the Border clans. These were unlike any laws prevailing in England or Scotland, or for that matter anywhere else in the world, for example, it was a far greater offence to refuse to help a neighbour recover his property, wife, sheep, cattle or horses than it was to steal them in the first place. Hence the expression "Hot Trod", or "a hot pursuit, from which we get the modern "hot to trot". For refusal of assistance during a "hot trod", a person could be hanged on the instant without trial. Frequently, the descendants of these clans or families apologetically refer to themselves as being descended from cattle of horse thieves when, in fact, it was an accepted code of life on the Border. In 1603 the unified English and Scottish crowns, under James I, dispersed these unruly Border clans, clans which had served loyally in the defence of each side. The unification of the governments was threatened and it was imperative that the old Border code should be broken up. Hence, the Border clans were banished to England, northern Scotland, and to Ireland. Some were outlawed directly to Ireland, the Colonies and the New World. Many Border clans settled in Northern Ireland, transferred between 1650 and 1700 with grants of land provided they undertook to remain Protestant. Hence they became known as the undertakers. Many became proudly Irish. In Ireland they settled in north east Ulster and in the County of Kildare. But life in Ireland was little more rewarding and they sought a more challenging life. They looked to the New World and sailed aboard the "White Sails", an armada of sailing ships such as the HECTOR, the RAMBLER, and the DOVE, which struggled across the stormy Atlantic. Some ships lost 30 or 40% of their passenger list, migrants who where buried at sea, having died of dysentery, cholera, smallpox, and typhoid. In North America, some of the first migrants which could be considered kinsman of the family name LAW and their spelling variants were Mary Law, who settled in Virginia in 1643; John Law settled in Annapolis, MD, in 1719; Andrew Law settled in Maryland in 1774, George Law settled in Charlestown, S.C. in 1763; the family also settled in Georgia, Pennsylvania, California, New York, and Massachusetts. Nathan LAWE settled in Virginia in 1623; L. LAWE settled in San Francisco, Cal.. in 1852; Mr. LAWES, wife and daughter settled in New England in 1637; Elizabeth LAWES settled in Maryland in 1683; Francis LAWES settled in Boston, Mass. in 1637. In Newfoundland, James LAW was married at St. John's in 1786; Henry LAW was a fisherman of Burying Place in 1871. The migrants formed wagon trains westward, rolling west to their prairies, on the wets coast. During the American War of Independence those that remain loyal to the crown moved north into Canada and became known as the United Empire Loyalists. There were many notable contemporaries of this name Law, Baron Coleraine; Baron Ellenborough; Mr. Justice Law, Justice of Appeal; Admiral Sir Horace Law; James Law, (Q.C. Scot); Frank William Law, Consulting Ophthalmic Surgeon; Col. Hugh Law; Sir John LAWES; Richard Maitland Laws, Director, British Antarctic Survey. The most ancient grant of a coat of arms found was: Ermine on a diagonal red stripe between two red cocks, three gold stars. The crest was : A red cock. The ancient family motto for this distinguished name was: "COMPOSITUM JUS FASQUE ANIMI" Taken from a computer extract prepared on the name LAW,by: The Hall of Names Ltd. 205 St. John's Hill, Battersea, London, SW11 1TH. England. Sent by Mr Ian Stuart Law, Manchester, England

I would enjoy receiving a copy. Thank you for you kind consideration. [email protected]

I question the connection as my ancestors are believed to have come to the US from Belfast, Ireland in 1794. They arrived in PA., then settled in Ohio, Iowa, and Nebraska. They are believed to have originated in County Fife, Scotalnd, but that hasn't been proven yet. Some of the family went to West Virginia and on to Utah, but that was at a later date. Maybe you could give more of a background on you family. Happy Hunting

Jean Please send me a copy of the article on the laws history. Thank you very much in advance Billy ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: History of the Law/Laws name > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 2:46 AM > > Hi Law/Laws researchers, > > Sometime ago a young man in England sent me one and a half pages about the > history, name, crests, coat of arms, and names of some of the original > Law/Laws settlers in the new world. It dawned on me that many of you might > like to read it. Since it is not a query, I don't think I should post it. > However, if you want to contact me I will send it to you. It is very > interesting. > > Jean Suman [email protected]

I would be interested in a copy. Thank you

I am not a decendant of Charles Law although his story certainly sounds interesting! I am from Thomas Laws. Sorry!