Is there really a proven descent from Ashton Hall? -----Original Message----- From: Paul E. Lawrence <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, April 01, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [LAWRENCE-L] Lawrence hoax You are correct about the Somerby work. However, Schuyler Lawrence did not repeat it. In fact he disagreed with it. In Schuyler's Communication to the Editor of the New England Historic-Genealogical Society in December 1935, he states "My researches show that the pedigrees by H. G. Somerby and others, widely published and accepted, are incorrect and indefensible for the first ten generations at least." This communication can be found on microfilm in the LDS Library. Schuyler also published a manuscript of his research on the Lawrences of which only two copies supposedly exist in the US, one at the Library of Congress (which I have tried to find on several occasions and it cannot be found) and the other at the NYC Public Library Main Branch which does exist on microfilm and I have seen and copied. Some of Schulyer's research is based on the "Victoria History of Lancashire" which can be found on microfilm at the Library of Congress. Another source for information on some of these Lawrences is Herald and Genealogist by Nichols, vol. II, IV, and VIII, which can also be found at the Library of Congress. I'm not all that familiar with the descendants of the Lawrences who came to New England as my research as been centered on descendants of Robert Lawrence who came to Isle of Wight Co., VA, and is also descended from the Lawrences of Ashton Hall. Some of the above is discussed on my web site along with pictures of my visit to Ashton Hall in 2000. The URL for my site is at the end of the message. At 11:38 PM 3/29/2002 -0700, you wrote: >H. G. Somerby did some fraudulent work on the Lawrence family, and Schuyler >Lawrence repeated some of it, if memory serves me correctly. The 1869 >Lawrence genealogy by John Lawrence repeats this fiction. However, others >have told me that the American Lawrences covered in the book is accurate. >For those descended from Thomas Lawrence & Joan Antrobus, the line [so far] >is verified back to Thomas' parents, John Lawrence & Elizabeth Bull > you'll often see the wife listed as "Margaret Roberts", but that has been >disproved]. Professional genealogist David L. Greene is working on this >family, and we all are eagerly awaiting publication [which will be in the >NYGBR]. If I hear anything from Mr. Greene, I'll let everyone on the List >know. >Paul E. Lawrence [email protected] My Lawrence Genealogy web page has moved to the following URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lawrpaul/index.htm Includes allied surnames of Bumpass, Byerly, Daughtrey, Ford (Faure), Harper, Harr, Wilhite/Wilhoit. Also researching Burnett, Daniel, McMurry, Hardy, Hill, Bondurant, Stansbury, Towne, Kincaid, and Rose, and others. User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) http://www.whollygenes.com/index.htm Member of the Roots User Group of Arlington, VA: http://www.rootsusers.org/ ==== LAWRENCE Mailing List ==== Jesse M Lawrence Jr. <[email protected]> is now the Listowner of this list. If I can help in any way, please email me directly. Please always enter a subject. Please be helpful and respectful to everyone. Please also try to stay on subject. Thank you for your cooperation. Happy Hunting You can view my Lawrence file on Worldconnect, file name jmljr Search my data base which is updated weekly and contains notes and sources http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jmljr