Hello Jeanne, There is a Zaphen Lawrence age 20 on the 1850 census in Thompson, Sullivan, NY. He is a farmer living in the L.M. Hoyt family. Do you have a death cert for Zopher or obit. These would help you a lot. Also if you have info on your grandmothers sibblings it may give you info on Zopher. Remember spellings are not always what we want as on the 1850 census. I'll help in any way I can, Betty in Ohio mymom727@aol.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawrence Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DAw.2ACIB/2302 Message Board Post: Hello. Am looking for any info on Zopher Lawrence of Monticello (1860 census) and Liberty (1880 census), NY. Married to Catherine. 8 children: Marcella (1854), James, Wm, Mary E., George, EMMA, Frank and Edward(1878). Emma is my grandmother. I cannot seem to go any farther back than Zopher. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Many thanks, Jeanne ==== LAWRENCE Mailing List ==== Jesse M Lawrence Jr. is now the Listowner of this list. If I can help in any way, please email me directly. Please always enter a subject. Please be helpful and respectful to everyone. Please also try to stay on subject. Thank you for your cooperation. Happy Hunting You can view my Lawrence file on Worldconnect, file name jmljr Search my data base which is updated weekly and contains notes and sources http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jmljr Genealogy is my Hobby, I collect ancestors !