This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawrence, Maull, Sobieski, Fenno, Brown, Reynolds, Kent, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/1704 Message Board Post: I recieved a gedcom from a man, I do not remember his name. I had lost it when my computer gave up on me one day. I would like to have him get ahold of me, and resend it again. I know it has been awhile, and I hope that he rembers me. I am working on William Lawrence-Mary Graham, I am trying to find their parents and siblings also. I sure hope I get the answer that I need and just a little help on this problem. Thank you, Roberta

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawrence and brandum Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DAw.2ACIB/1703 Message Board Post: I am seeking info on a Dyce Lawrence born in Ohio 1882. Moved to Cabell county Wv .Her mother was Sarah Brandum Lawrence. Grandmother was Sarah Brandum. Sarah Brandum is my great great grandmother.

I feel that the information that can be glean from the "Victoria History of Lancashire" provides a descent for Ashton Hall for some Lawrence lines. From what I have interpret from that sources and other sources that Schuyler Lawrence provides in his bibliography, other sources I have found such as Nichols' "Herald and Genealogist" provides the best proof that can found concerning Ashton Hall descent. When I visited Ashton Hall in Oct. 2000, there was also a pedigree chart hanging on the wall in the dining area that included the Lawrences, photo of it on my web page but a little hard to read due to light reflection off the glass. I feel that what is presented on my web page is about as accurate as has been found. I am always open to corrections and discussion on this subject. There are some inaccuracies in Schuyler's work but it is more reliable than Somerby's. One of the biggest hoaxes, however, appears to have been the connection between the Lawrences and the Townley estate. As far as I can determine this was completely incorrect.... At 10:44 PM 4/1/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Is there really a proven descent from Ashton Hall? XXENDSXX Paul E. Lawrence [email protected] My Lawrence Genealogy web page has moved to the following URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lawrpaul/index.htm Includes allied surnames of Bumpass, Byerly, Daughtrey, Ford (Faure), Harper, Harr, Wilhite/Wilhoit. Also researching Burnett, Daniel, McMurry, Hardy, Hill, Bondurant, Stansbury, Towne, Kincaid, and Rose, and others. User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) http://www.whollygenes.com/index.htm Member of the Roots User Group of Arlington, VA: http://www.rootsusers.org/

Is there really a proven descent from Ashton Hall? -----Original Message----- From: Paul E. Lawrence <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, April 01, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [LAWRENCE-L] Lawrence hoax You are correct about the Somerby work. However, Schuyler Lawrence did not repeat it. In fact he disagreed with it. In Schuyler's Communication to the Editor of the New England Historic-Genealogical Society in December 1935, he states "My researches show that the pedigrees by H. G. Somerby and others, widely published and accepted, are incorrect and indefensible for the first ten generations at least." This communication can be found on microfilm in the LDS Library. Schuyler also published a manuscript of his research on the Lawrences of which only two copies supposedly exist in the US, one at the Library of Congress (which I have tried to find on several occasions and it cannot be found) and the other at the NYC Public Library Main Branch which does exist on microfilm and I have seen and copied. Some of Schulyer's research is based on the "Victoria History of Lancashire" which can be found on microfilm at the Library of Congress. Another source for information on some of these Lawrences is Herald and Genealogist by Nichols, vol. II, IV, and VIII, which can also be found at the Library of Congress. I'm not all that familiar with the descendants of the Lawrences who came to New England as my research as been centered on descendants of Robert Lawrence who came to Isle of Wight Co., VA, and is also descended from the Lawrences of Ashton Hall. Some of the above is discussed on my web site along with pictures of my visit to Ashton Hall in 2000. The URL for my site is at the end of the message. At 11:38 PM 3/29/2002 -0700, you wrote: >H. G. Somerby did some fraudulent work on the Lawrence family, and Schuyler >Lawrence repeated some of it, if memory serves me correctly. The 1869 >Lawrence genealogy by John Lawrence repeats this fiction. However, others >have told me that the American Lawrences covered in the book is accurate. >For those descended from Thomas Lawrence & Joan Antrobus, the line [so far] >is verified back to Thomas' parents, John Lawrence & Elizabeth Bull > you'll often see the wife listed as "Margaret Roberts", but that has been >disproved]. Professional genealogist David L. Greene is working on this >family, and we all are eagerly awaiting publication [which will be in the >NYGBR]. If I hear anything from Mr. Greene, I'll let everyone on the List >know. >Paul E. Lawrence [email protected] My Lawrence Genealogy web page has moved to the following URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lawrpaul/index.htm Includes allied surnames of Bumpass, Byerly, Daughtrey, Ford (Faure), Harper, Harr, Wilhite/Wilhoit. Also researching Burnett, Daniel, McMurry, Hardy, Hill, Bondurant, Stansbury, Towne, Kincaid, and Rose, and others. User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) http://www.whollygenes.com/index.htm Member of the Roots User Group of Arlington, VA: http://www.rootsusers.org/ ==== LAWRENCE Mailing List ==== Jesse M Lawrence Jr. <[email protected]> is now the Listowner of this list. If I can help in any way, please email me directly. Please always enter a subject. Please be helpful and respectful to everyone. Please also try to stay on subject. Thank you for your cooperation. Happy Hunting You can view my Lawrence file on Worldconnect, file name jmljr Search my data base which is updated weekly and contains notes and sources http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jmljr

You are correct about the Somerby work. However, Schuyler Lawrence did not repeat it. In fact he disagreed with it. In Schuyler's Communication to the Editor of the New England Historic-Genealogical Society in December 1935, he states "My researches show that the pedigrees by H. G. Somerby and others, widely published and accepted, are incorrect and indefensible for the first ten generations at least." This communication can be found on microfilm in the LDS Library. Schuyler also published a manuscript of his research on the Lawrences of which only two copies supposedly exist in the US, one at the Library of Congress (which I have tried to find on several occasions and it cannot be found) and the other at the NYC Public Library Main Branch which does exist on microfilm and I have seen and copied. Some of Schulyer's research is based on the "Victoria History of Lancashire" which can be found on microfilm at the Library of Congress. Another source for information on some of these Lawrences is Herald and Genealogist by Nichols, vol. II, IV, and VIII, which can also be found at the Library of Congress. I'm not all that familiar with the descendants of the Lawrences who came to New England as my research as been centered on descendants of Robert Lawrence who came to Isle of Wight Co., VA, and is also descended from the Lawrences of Ashton Hall. Some of the above is discussed on my web site along with pictures of my visit to Ashton Hall in 2000. The URL for my site is at the end of the message. At 11:38 PM 3/29/2002 -0700, you wrote: >H. G. Somerby did some fraudulent work on the Lawrence family, and Schuyler >Lawrence repeated some of it, if memory serves me correctly. The 1869 >Lawrence genealogy by John Lawrence repeats this fiction. However, others >have told me that the American Lawrences covered in the book is accurate. >For those descended from Thomas Lawrence & Joan Antrobus, the line [so far] >is verified back to Thomas' parents, John Lawrence & Elizabeth Bull > you'll often see the wife listed as "Margaret Roberts", but that has been >disproved]. Professional genealogist David L. Greene is working on this >family, and we all are eagerly awaiting publication [which will be in the >NYGBR]. If I hear anything from Mr. Greene, I'll let everyone on the List >know. >Paul E. Lawrence [email protected] My Lawrence Genealogy web page has moved to the following URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lawrpaul/index.htm Includes allied surnames of Bumpass, Byerly, Daughtrey, Ford (Faure), Harper, Harr, Wilhite/Wilhoit. Also researching Burnett, Daniel, McMurry, Hardy, Hill, Bondurant, Stansbury, Towne, Kincaid, and Rose, and others. User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) http://www.whollygenes.com/index.htm Member of the Roots User Group of Arlington, VA: http://www.rootsusers.org/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reed. Lawrence, Kennedy , Eagon . Jones , Teer , Tollett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/1546.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Ref : Reed Lawrence lived in S/E/ Okla . And some in Texas Area . Could be Email Me will be Glad to Share.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kennedy , Parks , Griffin , Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/1656.2 Message Board Post: Reed Lawrence 1849 Married Amy Eagon 1866 Blanduril Lawrence 1867 Dora Lawrence 1870 Mo. Sarah Lawrence 1876 John Lawrence 1877 Rose Lawrence 1880 Barney Lawrence 1888 Josie Lawrence 1890 Family in Mo . 1865 Moved to Texas 1870 then To Atoka Co Abt 1880 Area Indian Terr . Now Okla.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kennedy , Parks , Griffin , Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/1656.1 Message Board Post: Reed Lawrence 1849 Married Amy Eagon 1866 Blanduril Lawrence 1867 Dora Lawrence 1870 Mo. Sarah Lawrence 1876 John Lawrence 1877 Rose Lawrence 1880 Barney Lawrence 1888 Josie Lawrence 1890 Family in Mo . 1865 Moved to Texas 1870 then To Atoka Co Abt 1880 Area Indian Terr . Now Okla.

A while back, someone mentioned a hoax regarding an inheritance of the Lawrences of Ashton Hall, Lancashire. It has occurred to me that I did hear of a family tradition that my great-grandfather returned to England for an inheritance. He is supposed to have died while there and never returned to the US. I would appreciate it if someone could post the timeline of this hoax so I can see if it fits the time my great-grandfather went back to England. My grandfather, Charles Joseph Lawrence was born in 1879 so it would have to be after that. Jane Carver

H. G. Somerby did some fraudulent work on the Lawrence family, and Schuyler Lawrence repeated some of it, if memory serves me correctly. The 1869 Lawrence genealogy by John Lawrence repeats this fiction. However, others have told me that the American Lawrences covered in the book is accurate. For those descended from Thomas Lawrence & Joan Antrobus, the line [so far] is verified back to Thomas' parents, John Lawrence & Elizabeth Bull you'll often see the wife listed as "Margaret Roberts", but that has been disproved]. Professional genealogist David L. Greene is working on this family, and we all are eagerly awaiting publication [which will be in the NYGBR]. If I hear anything from Mr. Greene, I'll let everyone on the List know. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: [LAWRENCE-L] Lawrence hoax A while back, someone mentioned a hoax regarding an inheritance of the Lawrences of Ashton Hall, Lancashire. It has occurred to me that I did hear of a family tradition that my great-grandfather returned to England for an inheritance. He is supposed to have died while there and never returned to the US. I would appreciate it if someone could post the timeline of this hoax so I can see if it fits the time my great-grandfather went back to England. My grandfather, Charles Joseph Lawrence was born in 1879 so it would have to be after that. Jane Carver ==== LAWRENCE Mailing List ==== ==== LAWRENCE Mailing List ==== This list is brought to you by the dedicated folks at Rootsweb. To ensure that it continues, please visit them and subscribe at http://www.rootsweb/com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html You can view my Lawrence file on Worldconnect, file name jmljr Search my data base which is updated weekly and contains notes and sources http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jmljr

D'Auan: Sorry but your given names do not apppear in 'my' Lawrence Genealogy. Florence ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:46 PM Subject: [LAWRENCE-L] Re: Minnie Ethel Julian Lawrence > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/78.1 > > Message Board Post: > > My husband, Tynus William McNeel, had a grandmother, Minnie Ethel Julian Lawrence, born abt 1883 in TX (maybe Abilene area) and died in California. She married Ellis Bert Lawrence. > > D'Auan McNeel > [email protected] > > > ==== LAWRENCE Mailing List ==== > Please submit replies back to the list so we can all take advantage of answers > and participate in the dialog, Of course, If only a personal nature > you should answer off line. This will facilitate more interest in the list. > You can always copy the individual directly also. Please reference the subject > when replying. Please do not use reply button and repeat entire thread if > you are on the digest list, cut and paste only the necessary part. > You can view my Lawrence file on Worldconnect, file name jmljr > Search my data base which is updated weekly and contains notes and sources > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jmljr >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/78.1 Message Board Post: My husband, Tynus William McNeel, had a grandmother, Minnie Ethel Julian Lawrence, born abt 1883 in TX (maybe Abilene area) and died in California. She married Ellis Bert Lawrence. D'Auan McNeel [email protected]

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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, thanks. These are they. Allen is my great-grandfather. I've now been through the Redmarley marriage register too and have John and Elisa. I also came across Charles and Deborah. There are no Lawrences - at least as far as I can see - in Redmarley churchyard though. And I've no success with the GRO register of births either. I only found Allen when the 1901 came on-line briefly. Elusive, these ancestors! Richard -----Original Message----- From: John and Jenny [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 March 2002 01:08 To: Unlisted-recipients Subject: Re: [LAWRENCE-L] Redmarley, Worcestershire Hi Richard The Lawrences you are looking for are listed in the 1881 census Living Windbrook, Redmarley, Worcs John Lawrence age 53 born Redmarley, Eliza aged 51 born Redmarley and Allen aged 10 born Eldersfield Does this help you? --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any attachments are strictly confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the named addressee you must not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance of this transmission and you should notify us as soon as possible. This e-mail and any attachments are believed to be free from viruses but it is your responsibility to carry out all necessary virus checks and Gloucestershire County Council accepts no liability in connection therewith. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary--

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tasker, Tichinel, Simmons, Brady Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/1702 Message Board Post: If anyone has a Minnie Lawrence in their tree please email me at [email protected] I am searching for Rebecca Catherine Simmons sister from Randolph Co, WV born 12/1/1885 and died 4/1971. She must have married ino the Lawrence family. Cause on Rebeccas death paper it says surviving sister from Ridgeley, WV was Minnie Lawrence. Thanks Shirley

This is my first query re my Lawrence family. Joseph Lawrence born 12 Jan 1736/37 in Rochester, Mass, died prior to 1790, perhaps Vermont. His family moved to Hardwick County Mass by 1748 (Old Furnace) Joseph served in Vermont Revolutionary War and was in Parmalee Allen;s compay, Captain Stark's co. etc.etc He married Susannah surname unkown and it is the ancestry of Susannah that I seek. I have the Lawrence Genealogy but no information re Susannah. Their first child, Levi, born 1766 in or near Athol Mass 1766 but no record of marriage in Athol. Can anyone help me? Would there be a website for Revolution War Records, or DAR? Many thanks Florence

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LAWRENCE/HICKLIN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/1701 Message Board Post: I'm searching for a James LAWRENCE who married unknown HICKLIN, a sister of William HICKLIN. They would have lived in the 1800's - with possible birth dates being in the early 1800's. Thanks for any information.

Hi Richard The Lawrences you are looking for are listed in the 1881 census Living Windbrook, Redmarley, Worcs John Lawrence age 53 born Redmarley, Eliza aged 51 born Redmarley and Allen aged 10 born Eldersfield Does this help you? Jenny

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, I've searched the Redmarley Parish Records for Lawrences from 1800 to 1893. This all of the Lawrence birth entries I've found. Unfortunately, I'm looking for John Lawrence, father of Allen Lawrence - The Allen below is the wrong one. So if any of you have a John Lawrence and Elisa Buckland, married 1864 in Redmarley I'd like to hear about them. Or even an Allen Lawrence born about 1873 in Eldersfield. That'd be great. Meanwhile, here's all I found. Oh btw, to Norm in Oz: I've read the record for the Charles you have as Charles Horant twice now - I make it Charles Howard. Redmarley PR PMF265/1 Births 1863-09-27 Page 83 Charles Howard Albert and Priscilla Lawrence Redmarley Plumber Glazier 1865-03-26 Page 91 Agnes Mary Albert and Priscilla Lawrence Redmarley Glazier 1866-02-09 Page 94 Annie Harriet Charles Hubert and Deborah Lawrence Redmarley Butcher 1866-12-23 Page 96 Martin John Albert and Priscilla Lawrence Redmarley Painter 1868-01-05 Page 2 Allen Charles Hubert and Deborah Lawrence Redmarley Butcher 1869-02-07 Page 7 Frank Albert and Priscilla Lawrence Redmarley Painter 1869-10-14 Page 10 Ruth Charles Hubert and Deborah Lawrence Redmarley Butcher 1871-06-05 Page 17 Edith Albert and Priscilla Lawrence Redmarley Painter 1871-06-15 Page 17 Blanche Charles Hubert and Deborah Lawrence Redmarley Butcher 1873-03-02 Page 25 Mabel Minnie Charles Hubert and Deborah Lawrence Redmarley Butcher 1873-10-12 Page 27 Sarah Alice Albert and Priscilla Lawrence Redmarley Painter 1874-06-26 Page 30 Kate Alfrida Charles Hubert and Deborah Laurence Redmarley Butcher 1876-03-05 Page 36 Charles Howard Charles Hubert and Deborah Laurence Redmarley Butcher --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any attachments are strictly confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the named addressee you must not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance of this transmission and you should notify us as soon as possible. This e-mail and any attachments are believed to be free from viruses but it is your responsibility to carry out all necessary virus checks and Gloucestershire County Council accepts no liability in connection therewith. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary--

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: TIDWELL, WHISENANT, WILLIAMS, ARBER, WILSON, PIERCE, ADAMS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DAw.2ACIB/1700 Message Board Post: I have a picture of 5 people - the back has the names of: Jim DEFOOR, Rose CRAWFORD, John CRAWFORD, Lenard DEFOOR, and Alice LAWRENCE. Can anyone tell me about these people? I was told from a family member that they were just friends and were not related. Thanks!