This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kEB.2ACI/308.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for your help in this matter. I am familiar with the books that you gave as reference: I guess it is just a problem of not seeing the forest for the trees! Do you happen to have any information on John F. Abshire b. May 1860 married to Setestme about 1881. Their children are: Elizabeth, Angelas, an un-named son, Stephal and Bernard. The daughter, Elizabeth, is the direct line, but I can't go any further back than her father. I wondered if he was an Abshire from those that came from Virgnia but did not go to Louisiana.