Shawn, Thanks very much for the information about the 1920 census. I have also had tremendous trouble getting anything added to the site and a response from Mr. Jones. In fact, very little has been added in the past two years. When I received no response after one month earlier this fall regarding a submission to the archives page, I contacted Ms. Rhonda Smith, the Louisiana State Archives Coordinator. She responded that she saw no problem with the site and implied that the fault was ours by not sending him information. After the numerous times I have submitted materials to the site and never received a response, I don't know how to respond to her until others complain about the situation. My only suggestion would be for those of us feel so inclined to complain to Ms. Smith. Merry Christmas! Tim Hudson -----Original Message----- From: SMARCMAR@aol.com To: LAUNION-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 12/20/03 9:48 AM Subject: [LAUNION] 1920 Union Parish Census On Line Fellow Members, First, I wanted to submit my change of E-mail address. The new address is smarcmar@direcway.com. Secondly, Karen Rice and I transcribed some census records for Union Parish several years ago. It has been so long ago that I forgot which years we did transcribe. About three months ago I received notice the 1920 census is now on line. The problem is, it has never been added to the Union Parish site. For those of you that are interested in viewing the records, you can go to the following address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed132/ I have tried to contact Mr. Jones several times to ask why the link had not been added, but I have never received a response. Also, I tried to submit a record on the History of Canaan Baptist Church. I never received a response to the submission, and it still is not on the site. If any of you are interested in having a copy, let me know and I will send you a copy by e-mail. This information came from a pamphlet handed out at one of the "Homecomings" during the (I was told) 1970's. It is really discouraging when you find information you think may be helpful to others, and take the time and energy to submit the information to only be ignored by those asking for valuable information!! Shawn Martin ==== LAUNION Mailing List ==== List manager launion-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear list members, The forwarded message below was received by Shawn Martin and myself this past Thursday night. The only way you can get to this most recently published 1920 Enumeration District - #131 right now is by clicking on the link below in this e-mail or in Shawn's original e-mail, which below is a copy of. This translation is published, but the link isn't up yet on the USGenWeb census web site. You can click into the other five Enumeration Districts which have been published at the website, or click on the links I'm about to give you: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed131/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed132/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed123/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed125/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed126/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed127/ All the other ED's - 124, 128, 129, 130, 133, 134, and 135 were all transcribed and proofread by Shawn and I that same summer - at least 3 yrs. ago. I don't know why it's taking so long, but I have volunteered and am one of the ones working to get files from all over formatted correctly, however I only get what they send me, not necessarily Union Parish. I don't know why the wheels of volunteerism grind so slow, but they do. Shawn and her daughter also transcribed the 1870 Union Parish Census that summer, and the minute we hear that it has been posted to the Census Web Site, we will let you know. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: Census Submissions To: smarcmar@aol.com ; Karen Rice Cc: Kay Mason ; Priscilla Warren ; Kathy Grace ; File Manager ; Christine Ayers ; Earnie Breeding Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: 1920 Union Parish, Louisiana (ED 131) Federal Census Online Dear Shawn Martin and Karen Rice, Thank you for your contribution to the USGenWeb Census Project. Your dedication and efforts are greatly appreciated, and will support the research of many, many visitors for generations to come. The files you contributed may now be viewed at the following URL(s): 1920 Union Parish, Louisiana (ED 131) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed131/ A copy of your transcription has been sent to Rhonda Smith <erf.smith8@verizon.net>, Louisiana USGenWeb Archives File Manager for upload. Sincerely, Maggie Stewart email: census@ev1.net The USGenWeb Census Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/

Fellow Members, First, I wanted to submit my change of E-mail address. The new address is smarcmar@direcway.com. Secondly, Karen Rice and I transcribed some census records for Union Parish several years ago. It has been so long ago that I forgot which years we did transcribe. About three months ago I received notice the 1920 census is now on line. The problem is, it has never been added to the Union Parish site. For those of you that are interested in viewing the records, you can go to the following address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/la/union/1920/ed132/ I have tried to contact Mr. Jones several times to ask why the link had not been added, but I have never received a response. Also, I tried to submit a record on the History of Canaan Baptist Church. I never received a response to the submission, and it still is not on the site. If any of you are interested in having a copy, let me know and I will send you a copy by e-mail. This information came from a pamphlet handed out at one of the "Homecomings" during the (I was told) 1970's. It is really discouraging when you find information you think may be helpful to others, and take the time and energy to submit the information to only be ignored by those asking for valuable information!! Shawn Martin

Looking for marriage information on James Martin (Jim) GREEN(E) b: 1864 Weldon, Claiborne Parish LA - 1925 and Annette (Nettie or Nattie) Florence MONCRIEF (MUNCRIEF) b: 1868 Lincoln Parish, LA- 1921, daughter of Caleb J. MONCRIEF and Mary Ann OWENS both buried in Sharon Baptist Cemetery, Hico, LA. James and Annette are buried in the Weldon Cemetery, Union Parish, LA. While in Claiborne Parish this past spring, I was unable to find a marriage entry for James and Annette, although there was a Jim Green(e) and ? Moncrief, but the first name was not one which closely resembles any given or nick name for my great grandmother. Would appreciate a look-up and information where I can send for a copy of marriage page entry of same. Thank you in advance. Lisa McCratic Canton, GA

In a message dated 11/9/03 11:05:12 AM, JUNEIRENE@aol.com writes: > This land was owned by Mr. Thomas Brantley, can anyone tell me the > township? > Sec 17, Twp 22N, Range 2E. > Thanks, > Dena > Is anyone on this list researching the Brantley family? I am interested in any childen of Thomas Brantley and Rachel Hill who were born in North Carolina and moved to Alabama. Two of the girls married Chandlers. I believe my great great grandmother Eliza Chandler was the daughter of one of these Brantley girls. Maradee Liggin Cryer

This land was owned by Mr. Thomas Brantley, can anyone tell me the township? Sec 17, Twp 22N, Range 2E. Thanks, Dena

Hello, If anyone ever goes to the Union Parish, LA Courthouse, I will gladly pay to have you copy the succession record of: COOPER, Hiram & Martha J-Succession-H-597-605. I truly believe I need this information to close a few major holes in my research. Thanks Gang! Dena Calbert-Jordan Contra Costa County California

Hello All and Happy Sunday! I'm "trying" to find out what happened to Martha Jane and her husband, Hiram Cooper. In 1857, Mary Jane Calvert sold a slave 'Jim' age about 37 to Martha Jane Cooper, wife of Hiram Cooper. In 1860, the (William and) Mary Jane Calvert family have relocated to Jefferson County, AR. There, they own two slaves, 1 black male, age 20 and 1 black female, age 20. (I have been told) There is no 1860 record of Hiram or Martha Jane Cooper owning any slaves per the slave census schedule. I checked the 1860 census records on the Union Parish, LA web site and saw no Hiram Cooper (died Oct 10, 1864, per familysearch.org) or Martha Jane Cooper (died 23 Dec 1875) living in Union Parish, LA. Just about all the names on that census have initials as first names, which makes it hard but, I know that both Hiram and Martha Jane were born (per 1850 census) in Tennessee, and there were no Cooper's born in Tennessee per the 1860 census. What happened to this Cooper Family? I'm asking because 'Jim' was my GG Grandfather and I was trying to find out what happened to him also between the years 1857 and 1870 (where he is found on the Union Parish, LA census under the names Jas Culbert). Any thoughts as to where I should turn to next will be most appreciated. Thanks and have a wonderful day! Dena Calbert-Jordan Contra Costa County California

I think land law development is a very complicated but fascinating topic; I wish I understood more of it than I do, but here are a few partial answers to the questions Jo raised recently. As someone noted, northwest Louisiana was originally all Natchitoches Parish, northeast Louisiana Ouachita Parish. Claiborne Parish was formed in 1828 from Natchitoches, Union formed in 1839 from Ouachita Parish. The United States land officers began work surveying what is now north Louisiana in the 1820s and 1830s. However, they had not completed the surveying and platting of the land that now makes up the parishes of Union, Claiborne, and Webster until the mid-1830s. Thus, although many whites lived on this land earlier than this, in most cases they did not actually possess a clear title to the land until they purchased it from the government beginning in the 1830s (I think there were some cases of Spanish grants made to long-time settlers and the US government honored these, but most that I know of dealt with land in Ouachita & Morehouse Parishes). The concept of "preemption" allowed citizens who settled, improved, cultivated, etc. land that was not yet available for sale from the government to hold a right of "first choice" to purchase the land from the govt. when it finally became available. This was a "hot button" political issue of the day and led to conflict between "easterners" and "westerners". Also, all land after 1820 had to be purchased with cash, in person at the regional land office, unless a power of attorney was presented to a land officer. In all "public domain" Southern States such as Louisiana (those states in which the US government owned the land and distributed it to the citizens through sale), the government set up regional land offices. The office for northeast Louisiana (including all of that portion of the state that was originally in Ouachita Parish) was in Monroe and was originally called the "Ouachita Land Office". In the 1850s, its name changed to the "Monroe Land Office". The land office for northwest Louisiana (that portion of the state that was originally in Natchitoches Parish) was called the "Natchitoches Land Office". This means that if a settler wanted to buy government land that was in present-day Union Parish, he would merely have to travel to the land office at Monroe, whereas if a citizen wanted to purchase government land in present-day Claiborne Parish, he would have to travel the long distance to Natchitoches to the land office there. If a citizen wanted to purchase land that lay in present-day Lincoln Parish, where he had to travel to purchase the land depended upon in which original parish it lay at the time - Union or Claiborne or Jackson, etc. So each land office covered land located in numerous parishes in the surrounding region. At the site: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ the land office is listed where the person purchased the land. If you look at the image of the patent for the land (available on that site), the residence of the person who purchased the land is given. However, the index for this site gives the PRESENT-DAY PARISH in which the land purchased is located today, not where it was located back then, when it was purchased from the government. For example, if you search for "Joseph A. Meeks" on the above site in Louisiana, you'll see land listed as in Webster Parish. If you look in more detail, you'll see he bought this at the Natchitoches Land Office, but that the patent shows his residence was Claiborne Parish. The explanation: the land he wished to purchase lay at that time in Claiborne Parish Meeks' residence at the time, but in 1871 this became Webster Parish. He had to travel to the Natchitoches Land Office to buy the land then because that is the office at which land in Claiborne Parish was offered for sale. Final Comment: The dates given for when settlers received a patent for their land in the above index are from the Bureau of Land Management records - the official Land Patents from the government to settlers. These official patents were made SEVERAL YEARS AFTER the settler actually purchased the land at the land office. In many cases, the settler had sold the land or was even dead by the time he received an official patent from the government, normally 2-3 years after he had purchased the land. The records that hold the most genealogical value are the earlier records, called Cash Entry Records after 1820. Those records often contain the original signatures of the settler, show the precise date on which he went to the land office and purchased the land, how much he paid, and occasionally, from what bank account he paid for the land, how many acres he had in cultivation, etc. These records are not held by the Bureau of Land Management but by the National Archives. It costs $17.50 per file to order these cash entry records from the archives (you can request the appropriate form you need to order copies on the National Archives website). An alternative to this expensive fee exists: order the land tract books from the LDS libraries for $3.25 per reel. I'll explain further to anyone interested. Tim Hudson P.S. My source for much of the above information is the 1969 work by Paul W. Gates, "History of Public Land Law Development", available in most large libraries. There are other, more recent works, but I have not used them as much. -----Original Message----- From: JO COX [mailto:jocox@arkansas.net] Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:23 PM To: LACLAIBO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LACLAIBO] Land location help Kelly, I am really confused. After my question was posted, someone suggested the beurau of land management wabpage and I checked there. It was listed as being in Webster Parish, but I have found out that Webster wasn't formed until 1871. Someone sent me the following: At one time all of northwest Louisiana was Natchitoches Parish. Claiborne Parish was the first Parish carved out of Natchitoches, that being authorized by Act 42 of the 1828 State Legislature. Caddo Parish was carved out of Natchitoches in 1838. Bossier Parish was taken from Claiborne in 1843, Bienville from Claiborne in 1848 and Webster from parts of Bienville, Claiborne and Bossier in 1871. Anyway, you can see why I am confused. The BOL records showed Webster Parish, the transactions were in 1851, bus was listed under John H. Aule of CLAIBORNE Parish. If you can help clear this up, I will sure appreciate it. The BOL showed the location as: Aliquot parts sec twns range E½NE 7/ 21-N 9-W W½NW 8/ 21-N 9-W NENW 7/ 21-N 9-W I think this may be different to what I found on Ancestry, maybe there was an error in transcription. Well, I really do thank you for all your trouble. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Priestly" <troubles@tecinfo.com> To: <LACLAIBO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [LACLAIBO] Land location help > Jo, > Township 9N is in Natchitoches Parish. Are you sure that these are for > Claibonre? Could it really be Township 19N? If it is 19N, then the > first and third are near Athens. On the second one, Range 8W is in > Webster Parish. Be sure that you copied this right and I can give you a > more specific location. > Kel > > JO COX wrote: > > >Kelly, thanks so much, that would be great !! There are three. > >Legal Land Description: > ># Aliquot Parts Block # Base Line Fractional Section Township Range Section > ># 1E½NELOUISIANANo21 N9 W7 > > > ># Aliquot Parts Block # Base Line Fractional Section Township Range Section > ># 1W½NWLOUISIANANo21 N9 W8 > > > ># Aliquot Parts Block # Base Line Fractional Section Township Range Section > ># 1NENWLOUISIANANo21 N9 W7 > > > >I really appreciate the help. > > > >Jo > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

On a land record for 1851, the land office is listed as NATCHITOCHES. Can anyone tell me what area of the state this land office would have covered? As far as I know, my line was in Claiborne, Union and Rapides parish, not Natchitoches. I suspect the land office would have been for a large area, not just one parish. Any info appreciated. Is there anywhere in the internet to find land location if I only have description from land records? I'm not very smart on this kind of stuff!!. Thanks, Jo Cox

Searching for parents of Lottie Turbeville Hart Born: Nov. 6, 1900 LA Died: Feb. 13, 1937 Ouachita Parish LA Thanks Jessica Fisher _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

Hi list, Does any one have information on Elisha and Sallie J White Stripling? I have them on the 1880 2nd Ward, Union, LA census with children Andrew J.,2 and Mary E. (Etta),1. Elisha and Sallie were both born in La but Elisha's parents in AL, Sallie's in NC. Mary Etta married John Nicholas in Pope County Ark in 1895. They had one child in Ark., two in Colorado and one in Nevada and ended up in CA. I have an Andrew in Arizonia that I think is her brother. Would like to find out more on Elisha and Sallie. Thank you very much. Pat McKinley

Hi folks, I was going through my database this morning, and lo and behold, I don't have the marriage date of my great-grandparents. Color me surprised, but I have just about everything else, so its curious that I don't have this. Their first child, Julia Estelle Day, was born November 18, 1912 ... that means that they were married prior to March 1912. Does anyone have a database of either Day/Craven marriages, or Oakland, Union Parish marriages? I'm also sending away to the Clerk of the Court in Farmersville to see if they might have it ... crossin' my fingers! Many thanks! Lori

I have started doing research on Samuel McCormick the last few weeks and found a Samuel McCormick In Putnam County, GA. On the 2 Jan 1810 a Samuel McCormick and wife Sarah signed a deed selling their land. On the 15 Jan 1810 Samuel got a passport to cross the Creek Nation. Could this be the Samuel McCormick who died April 1850 in Union Parish? Does anyone else have any more info on Samuel McCormick? David P. Manning

Robbie, Which Peterson line you working in Union Parish? Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Griggs Landry" <genealogy101@bellsouth.net> To: <LAUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: [LAUNION] Still searching for information > Hello, > I am still searching for these surnamed people. > > ACREE > HUDSON > GOYNE > MCGOUGH > JOINER > PETERSON > > Anyone associated with these families. > My grandfather was ELGIN 'COOT' DEAN HUDSON b.December 07, 1889 Union Parish,Louisiana d.September 05, 1945 Hines Veterans Hopital - Proviso, Cook County,Chicago Illinois (Wednesday) (55 years 8 months 28 days) 2:45 A.M. > > His parents were JOHN THOMAS HUDSON and SUSAN GOYNES of Union Parish,Louisiana. > Thank you, > Robbie > > ______________________________

Can anyone help with the correct name of a hospital in New Orleans during WWII that sounds like "LaGuard?" It may have been a military hospital on a base, for some injured service men were sent to this hospital. Any suggestions to look for this information if no one knows the name would be appreciated. --Fay fbk2@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

We are looking for marriage records on the following ancestors. William Marion Pace and Josie Etta Flowers married 25 Dec 1904 Robert Dempsey Pace and Samantha Jane Livingston married 8 Dec 1878 I have written to the Union Parish Courthouse and they did not find them in their records and my sister in law checked the courthouse in Monroe and found no record. Any help would be appreciated. Billy and Delores tousinau@bellsouth.net

While browsing through a book titled "Marriages and Deaths from Mississippi Newspapers Vol. 2: 1801-1850 Compiled by Betty Couch Wiltshire, I came across the following abstract. Mississippi Free Trader (Natchez, MS) December 20, 1848 Married on Thursday evening, 7th, at the residence of Capt. S. Bullen, by Rev. J. G. Jones, Mr. Benj. G. Greenfield, M. D. , of Union Parish, La., to Miss Vermont M. Bullen, of Jefferson Co., MS. This goes to show, you never know where you will find important records. If i come across any other records of interest to Union Parish, I will post them also. Shawn Martin

Hi Shawn, This is great info, thank you for sharing. What caught my eye was the reference to Rev. J. G. Jones ... my ancestor, Jonathan Mathis Jones (1852-1908) was born in Scott County, Mississippi and was a deacon at the Missionary Baptist Church in Union Parish ... makes one wonder if this Rev. was any kin! Lori Researching the families of Jones, Nolan, Day, Manning, Morgan et al :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <SMARCMAR@aol.com> To: <LAUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: [LAUNION] Marriage record of Dr. Benjamin Greenfield, Union Parish, LA > Mississippi Free Trader (Natchez, MS) > December 20, 1848 > Married on Thursday evening, 7th, at the residence of Capt. S. Bullen, by > Rev. J. G. Jones, Mr. Benj. G. Greenfield, M. D. , of Union Parish, La., to Miss > Vermont M. Bullen, of Jefferson Co., MS.

Hello, I am still searching for these surnamed people. ACREE HUDSON GOYNE MCGOUGH JOINER PETERSON Anyone associated with these families. My grandfather was ELGIN 'COOT' DEAN HUDSON b.December 07, 1889 Union Parish,Louisiana d.September 05, 1945 Hines Veterans Hopital - Proviso, Cook County,Chicago Illinois (Wednesday) (55 years 8 months 28 days) 2:45 A.M. His parents were JOHN THOMAS HUDSON and SUSAN GOYNES of Union Parish,Louisiana. Thank you, Robbie