Glen, Thanks a million for the information. Matilda Moore and Charlie Lounsberry is my grand parents on my mothers side. I lived at Sour Lake from 1950 to 1960. I knew a Phillip Winegeart very well. Phillip and his wife Eva visited my grandmother often. They were kin but I dont know how. My e-mail address is [email protected] Do you know who Phillip is and what connection he has to Matilda. Thanks Again Warren