Jan,   While cleaning up some emails, I reviewed your messages regarding this marriage.   An interesting aspect of the Orleans Parish marriage records is that the Justice of the Peace marriage license system overlapped for a time (apparently about ten years) with the Board of Health system. This overlap started in 1870. You received the JP license, but since this marriage took place in 1870, there is a chance it is ALSO in the Board of Health system. I have a couple of marriages that are included in BOTH systems.   The Louisiana Division of the NOPL describes these systems: http://nutrias.org/~nopl/guides/genguide/marriagerecords.htm   It appears from one of your other messages that the marriage was that of a Christopher Dillon. You have the JP license, but the Orleans Parish marriage index (available on Ancestry.com) includes this:      Name: Christopher Dillon      Birth Date: abt 1828      Age: 42      Spouse: Ann Riley      Spouse Age: 22      Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1870 Is this the right couple?   If it is, you can follow the guidance of the Louisiana Division to get the Board of Health register information. Once you have that, you can get the needed reference numbers and order the “return.” As noted, these are always more interesting, and most people don’t order them.   The register looks like this. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004b_wegener-klein.jpg   From it, you get a book and folio number. With that, you can get the “return,” which has two sides, the original license: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004c_wegener-klein.jpg and on the other side, the officiant’s return, with all of the signatures: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004d_wegener-klein.jpg   A record of the marriage was mailed to the parties and sometimes these have survived. They looked like this: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004a_wegener-klein.jpg   If the marriage above is yours, you should be able to get these documents.   Norm   ________________________________ From: Jan Delgehausen <msdelge@cox.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question Recently, I ordered an Orleans Parish Marriage from the Justice of the Peace Index, dated 22 Nov 1870, VEC 678; pg. 355  It contained the information I was seeking.  However, at the bottom of the document was a paragraph I have never seen before on any other Justice of the Peace marriage record.... and I have a few.  It read: “The State of Louisiana, Parish of Orleans----City of new Orleans.  License is hereby granted to the Rev’d (cannot read his name—may be P. M. Gordinn?) or any other person authorized by law to join in the Bonds of Matrimony (groom’s name) and (bride’s name) on complying with the legal Formalities; and he is required by law to return to this Court within thirty days a Certificate of the Celebration of Marriage hereby authorized, signed by himself, by the parties and three witnesses.”  If there is a certificate with this information, where would I find it?  I invite comments. Thanks to each of you, for your generous lookups, information and ideas, and discussions of all things New Orleans.    Jan Delgehausen Baton Rouge, Louisiana                           

Norm, Thank you so much for your reply. The Justice of the Peace records are frustrating and I always hope for more. I did read the part about the Board of Health System, but didn't know where to go next. Actually Christopher Dillon is the father of Annie C.Dillon, who married William Graves Wilkinson the same year. It was Christopher Dillon's second marriage. His first wife, Hannah C. Schroeder died years before his second marriage. My record is for Annie C. Dillon who married William G. Wilkinson 22 Nov 1870, Justice of the Peace, Orleans Parish VEC 678 Page 355. Anna , Hannah, Annie C. Dillon Wilkinson died in Donaldsonville, LA 2 Sept 1880. Let me read your information and maybe I'll have a better understanding of the system. Again, a sincere thank you. You are so helpful to those of us with New Orleans ancestors and generously share your knowledge. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Norm Hellmers Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:21 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question Jan, While cleaning up some emails, I reviewed your messages regarding this marriage. An interesting aspect of the Orleans Parish marriage records is that the Justice of the Peace marriage license system overlapped for a time (apparently about ten years) with the Board of Health system. This overlap started in 1870. You received the JP license, but since this marriage took place in 1870, there is a chance it is ALSO in the Board of Health system. I have a couple of marriages that are included in BOTH systems. The Louisiana Division of the NOPL describes these systems: http://nutrias.org/~nopl/guides/genguide/marriagerecords.htm It appears from one of your other messages that the marriage was that of a Christopher Dillon. You have the JP license, but the Orleans Parish marriage index (available on Ancestry.com) includes this: Name: Christopher Dillon Birth Date: abt 1828 Age: 42 Spouse: Ann Riley Spouse Age: 22 Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1870 Is this the right couple? If it is, you can follow the guidance of the Louisiana Division to get the Board of Health register information. Once you have that, you can get the needed reference numbers and order the “return.” As noted, these are always more interesting, and most people don’t order them. The register looks like this. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004b_wegener-klein.jpg >From it, you get a book and folio number. With that, you can get the “return,” which has two sides, the original license: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004c_wegener-klein.jpg and on the other side, the officiant’s return, with all of the signatures: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004d_wegener-klein.jpg A record of the marriage was mailed to the parties and sometimes these have survived. They looked like this: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004a_wegener-klein.jpg If the marriage above is yours, you should be able to get these documents. Norm ________________________________ From: Jan Delgehausen <msdelge@cox.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question Recently, I ordered an Orleans Parish Marriage from the Justice of the Peace Index, dated 22 Nov 1870, VEC 678; pg. 355 It contained the information I was seeking. However, at the bottom of the document was a paragraph I have never seen before on any other Justice of the Peace marriage record.... and I have a few. It read: “The State of Louisiana, Parish of Orleans----City of new Orleans. License is hereby granted to the Rev’d (cannot read his name—may be P. M. Gordinn?) or any other person authorized by law to join in the Bonds of Matrimony (groom’s name) and (bride’s name) on complying with the legal Formalities; and he is required by law to return to this Court within thirty days a Certificate of the Celebration of Marriage hereby authorized, signed by himself, by the parties and three witnesses.” If there is a certificate with this information, where would I find it? I invite comments. Thanks to each of you, for your generous lookups, information and ideas, and discussions of all things New Orleans. Jan Delgehausen Baton Rouge, Louisiana ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message