Norm. I've been searching for a marriage certicate for my great-grandfather, Hermann Edward/Edouard Lehmann. A cousin found one for his first wife, Euranie Marchand in 1833, but he evidently divorced her and married a second wife....my line....Denise Louise Develle.by about 1848 when there are records of the birth of their children. A cousin checked the notorial arcives without any luck and also checked for a Justice of the Peace record, and I have not found anything on the Orleans Parish website of marriages. Both wives were French and Catholic, and I know that divorce was not acceptable in those days. Euranie's death notice in the newspaper said she was the wife of H. E. Lehmann. He is buried in the Develle tomb at St. Louis 3 cemetery, so I know they must have attended that church. Could you give me a clue as to where else I could look? Thanks for any incite. Helen Smith in Waco, Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question > Jan, > > While cleaning up some emails, I reviewed your messages > regarding this marriage. > > An interesting aspect of the Orleans Parish marriage records > is that the Justice of the Peace marriage license system overlapped for a time (apparently > about ten years) with the Board of Health system. This overlap started in 1870. > You received the JP license, but since this marriage took place in 1870, there > is a chance it is ALSO in the Board of Health system. I have a couple of > marriages that are included in BOTH systems. > > The Louisiana Division of the NOPL describes these systems: > http://nutrias.org/~nopl/guides/genguide/marriagerecords.htm > > It appears from one of your other messages that the marriage > was that of a Christopher Dillon. You have the JP license, but the Orleans Parish > marriage index (available on Ancestry.com) includes this: > Name: Christopher > Dillon > Birth Date: abt > 1828 > Age: 42 > Spouse: Ann Riley > Spouse Age: 22 > Marriage Date: 22 > Dec 1870 > Is this the right couple? > > If it is, you can follow the guidance of the Louisiana > Division to get the Board of Health register information. Once you have that, > you can get the needed reference numbers and order the “return.” As noted, > these are always more interesting, and most people don’t order them. > > The register looks like this. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004b_wegener-klein.jpg > > From it, you get a book and folio number. With that, you can > get the “return,” which has two sides, the original license: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004c_wegener-klein.jpg > and on the other side, the officiant’s return, with all of > the signatures: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004d_wegener-klein.jpg > > A record of the marriage was mailed to the parties and > sometimes these have survived. They looked like this: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004a_wegener-klein.jpg > > If the marriage above is yours, you should be able to get > these documents. > > Norm > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jan Delgehausen <msdelge@cox.net> > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:37 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question > > Recently, I ordered an Orleans Parish Marriage from the Justice of the Peace Index, dated 22 Nov 1870, VEC 678; pg. 355 It contained the information I was seeking. However, at the bottom of the document was a paragraph I have never seen before on any other Justice of the Peace marriage record.... and I have a few. It read: > > “The State of Louisiana, Parish of Orleans----City of new Orleans. License is hereby granted to the Rev’d (cannot read his name—may be P. M. Gordinn?) or any other person authorized by law to join in the Bonds of Matrimony (groom’s name) and (bride’s name) on complying with the legal Formalities; and he is required by law to return to this Court within thirty days a Certificate of the Celebration of Marriage hereby authorized, signed by himself, by the parties and three witnesses.” > > If there is a certificate with this information, where would I find it? > > I invite comments. > > Thanks to each of you, for your generous lookups, information and ideas, and discussions of all things New Orleans. > > Jan Delgehausen > Baton Rouge, Louisiana > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message