Hi Sharon and Greg, The only place I can find a Richard Beatty in a naval capacity in the Civil War was a Richard Beatty who joined the 1st Regiment NY Marine Artillery, which recruited in Chicago, Illinois (This was right over the river from Clinton, Iowa). This Richard Beatty deserted around 1862. Many in this unit left, and the unit was disbanded in 1863. Several of the marines joined revenue cutter units because the profitability was better. If Richard joined a naval outfit and ended up in New Orleans, the probability was that he would not have used his real name due to the prior desertion, and it is unclear whether he would have joined a revenue cutter unit or the navy. However, his obit claimed that he was part of the navy in New Orleans, and he did indeed end up in New Orleans by around 1868 but possibly sooner. Something got Richard Beatty to New Orleans and made him stay. Growing up in Iowa and Illinois, and having your family move to New York for the most part, wouldn't lead one to think that Richard would end up in New Orleans. So there must be some other factor. Do you know of any revenue cutter ships operating with the fleet in the Gulf of Mexico, especially in the New Orleans/Mississippi River area? This is a huge mystery for me. Richard's obit states he was a life long member of the Roman Catholic Church, yet, I can't find a marriage cert for him, or a baptismal cert for his son Richard Thomas Beatty. I may learn more if an obit existed for "Mary," who is rumored in the family to have been Richard Beatty's first wife in New Orleans. Craig Craig Borne Baltimore, Maryland cjborne@comcast.net "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Centanne Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:16 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call #2 - Union Navy Ancestor HI Craig, How very interesting that you have an ancestor that was in the Union Navy! My husband is a Union Navy Civil War re-enactor and involved with the National Civil War Navy Museum in Port Columbus, Ga. You might want to go visit that museum sometime to learn more about the Union Navy in the Civil War. Admiral Farragut's ship was the USS Hartford. It had a steam engine and also square rigged sails for back up. Do you know if your ancestor was on the flag ship or another ship in the fleet? We are always looking for information on real people who served in the Civil War. Sharon and Greg Centanne USS Ottawa Civil War Navy Re-enacting Unit St. Petersburg, FL Craig Borne wrote: >Hello all, >I forgot the following family in my last post: > >Richard Edward Beatty was born on a ship in the Gulf of Mexico on March 3, >1842 while his family was immigrating to the USA from Ireland. I am not >sure what their port of entry was, but Richard's obituary states that he was >reared in Clinton County, Iowa. I have found no ship's passenger lists >entering through New Orleans listing a Beatty family around this time, and I >have yet to locate a Federal Census Record mentioning the Beatty family >prior to 1860. > >An 1860 Federal census lists a "Richard Beatty", age 18, as a residence of >Elk River Township, Clinton County, Iowa, and there is"Charles Beatty" in >the same township, age 19. I believe that this Charles may be a brother to >my Richard. At this point in their lives, the boys are living in the homes >of other families and not with their Beatty family. I am not sure if this >was just two boys venturing into the city, or something happened to the >family, causing the boys to strike out on their own. > >1860 BEATTY RICHARD Clinton County IA 250 Elk River Township Federal >Population Schedule 1860 Federal Census IndexIA2319890 > >Richard enlisted in the Union Navy at the outbreak of the Civil War in 1861. >He was said to have been part of Admiral Farragut's fleet, taking part in >the capture of Fts. Jackson and St. Philip. He was present at the fall of >New Orleans and Vicksburg, although I have found no further confirmation of >this other than his obituary. He came to live in Louisiana some time after >the Civil War, maybe as early as 1866. There is a "Richard Beatty" listed >in the 1866 New Orleans City Directory, and prior to that year, no Richard >Beatty was listed. > >On To New Orleans: >He married Johanna Ward Gray (who immigrated to New Orleans around 1853), >widow of C.A. Gray, around 1868. Johanna had two boys from this previous >marriage: George Gray, who was born on September 5, 1861, and John Gray, who >was born on January 17, 1867. This information indicates that Richard and >Johanna could have been married as early as 1866, but no later than February >of 1869. Johanna and Richard had two children of their own: Richard Thomas >Beatty, who was born on November 14, 1869, possibly in New Orleans, and >Suzanna Beatty Phillips, who was born on August 19, 1872, in St. Helena >Parish, Louisiana. The obituary goes on to claim that Richard Edward Beatty >was a life-long member of the Roman Catholic Church, so there must be some >birth/baptismal records out there somewhere that I have yet to find. > >By 1870, the Beatty family had left New Orleans and moved to Amite City in >Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana. They are present in the 1870 Federal Census >as "Bates," but all of the particulars match. Richard is present with wife >Johanna, as well as John Gray and a daughter, Bridget. This "daughter" is >probably Richard Thomas Beatty due to the similarity of the ages, and the >fact that the name Richard may be confused with Bridget if stated in an >Irish brough. There is also a "Samuel" listed in the household, age six. >My only guess is that this is George Gray, who would have been approximately >eight years old. > >Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. >Craig > >Craig Borne >Baltimore, Maryland >cjborne@comcast.net >"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial >appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in >defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense > >-----Original Message----- >From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Craig Borne >Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 3:35 PM >To: Orleans Parish List >Subject: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > >.better late than never! Below are my New Orleans and surrounding area >families: > > > >My Father's Side- > >Paternal line: Borne/LeBorne (All the way back to Jacques Antoine LeBorne >who arrived in 1718) > >includes Bettemont, Haydel, Perret, Daspit, Latour, D'arensbourg, (Emma >Florinda) Lucas, Davis, McStea > >Thibodaux/Thibodeaux (Through Henry Schuyler Thibodaux, Governor of >Louisiana in 1824) > >includes Belanger, Himel, Porche, Bergeron, > > > >Maternal Line: Duhe (from Garyville; originally from Acadia) > >Includes Bourgeois > > > >My Mother's Side- > >Maternal line: Capponi (from London, England, arrived in New Orleans around >1886) > >Includes Bulger, (Ann) Riley, Merrill, (Sophie) Tennermann/Teneman/Gilhust, >Dossat, Lamothe > > > >Looking forward to some connections, > >Craig Borne > >Baltimore, MD > >CJBorne@comcast.net > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message