Judy, This is what we have so far on the place from which your Katharina S_______ Gullung came: http://home.comcast.net/~hellmers/german2/ I've presented the problem to the Germany mailing list and they are offering some interesting ideas and assistance. Stay tuned. In the meantime, we have the issue of Katharina's maiden name. I believe this puzzle demonstrates the importance of researching siblings. With the Gullungs having so many children, the records of their marriages and deaths could be pursued for a correct spelling of Katharina's last name. Some of the later death records include the full names of the parents, perhaps Andrew Henry Gullung's (28 Dec 1934) might have her name. It appears to me, after searching the St. Paul baptism records, that the Gullung children were not baptized there. I learned that Zinsweiler, Alsace, only had a Catholic parish, so perhaps Jakob was Catholic and his wife Katharina was Lutheran/Protestant, so they could be married at St. Paul, but their children would be baptized at a Catholic church. Do you have any information about their religion(s)? Given where they were living in the 9th ward and having a German background, perhaps the children were baptized at Holy Trinity. Holy Trinity has been closed for some time and the records are at the Archdiocesan Archives. Some of the baptism records were indexed in NEW ORLEANS GENESIS. See: http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~neworleans/german_church_records/08.html Beginning in 1965 these records were serialized. Search on Holy Trinity here for the various volumes: http://files.usgwarchives.org/la/orleans/newspapers/001-165.txt Perhaps you could ask the list for someone who has access to the old volumes of NOG to see if the Gullungs show up in the Holy Trinity baptism records. If so, you could ask for one from the Archdiocesan Archives to see if the mother's name is included. Some baptism records I have from Holy Trinity from around that time period (1859-1879) include the mother's maiden name and the names of the sponsors. Do you have a death record or obituary for Katharina? Depending on when she died, there might be an obituary in the German newspaper, the Tägliche Deutsche Zeitung. These occasionally give the decedent's specific place of origin. Just thoughts for your further research. Norm --- Judy Fisher <jzamboni@cox.net> wrote: > Thanks Norm. I did not know were in Alsace Jacob was > born. Knew along that > he was from Alsace and Catherina was from > Wurttemberg from the information > on my great-great grandmothers Mary Magdelena's > birfh record. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Norm, I have obits for the children, Catherine died after the 1900 census. Can not remember the year. Will have to find my record.. Her obit just list her as Catherine Gullung ,wife of Jacob Gullung. Mary Magdalena(Lena ) Please keep in touch. Thanks again for your help.was married at Holy Trinity Church. St. Vincent de Paul was the other German church near by. What I have found so far was that Lena was the only one who was married in the Catholic Church. They other children were in the Lutherans religion if any religion at all. Some of her sisters were married in the Lutheran religion. Most of that side of the family, from different members that I spoke with were Lutherans. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jakob Gullung and wife Catherine Judy, This is what we have so far on the place from which your Katharina S_______ Gullung came: http://home.comcast.net/~hellmers/german2/ I've presented the problem to the Germany mailing list and they are offering some interesting ideas and assistance. Stay tuned. In the meantime, we have the issue of Katharina's maiden name. I believe this puzzle demonstrates the importance of researching siblings. With the Gullungs having so many children, the records of their marriages and deaths could be pursued for a correct spelling of Katharina's last name. Some of the later death records include the full names of the parents, perhaps Andrew Henry Gullung's (28 Dec 1934) might have her name. It appears to me, after searching the St. Paul baptism records, that the Gullung children were not baptized there. I learned that Zinsweiler, Alsace, only had a Catholic parish, so perhaps Jakob was Catholic and his wife Katharina was Lutheran/Protestant, so they could be married at St. Paul, but their children would be baptized at a Catholic church. Do you have any information about their religion(s)? Given where they were living in the 9th ward and having a German background, perhaps the children were baptized at Holy Trinity. Holy Trinity has been closed for some time and the records are at the Archdiocesan Archives. Some of the baptism records were indexed in NEW ORLEANS GENESIS. See: http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~neworleans/german_church_records/08.html Beginning in 1965 these records were serialized. Search on Holy Trinity here for the various volumes: http://files.usgwarchives.org/la/orleans/newspapers/001-165.txt Perhaps you could ask the list for someone who has access to the old volumes of NOG to see if the Gullungs show up in the Holy Trinity baptism records. If so, you could ask for one from the Archdiocesan Archives to see if the mother's name is included. Some baptism records I have from Holy Trinity from around that time period (1859-1879) include the mother's maiden name and the names of the sponsors. Do you have a death record or obituary for Katharina? Depending on when she died, there might be an obituary in the German newspaper, the Tägliche Deutsche Zeitung. These occasionally give the decedent's specific place of origin. Just thoughts for your further research. Norm --- Judy Fisher <jzamboni@cox.net> wrote: > Thanks Norm. I did not know were in Alsace Jacob was > born. Knew along that > he was from Alsace and Catherina was from > Wurttemberg from the information > on my great-great grandmothers Mary Magdelena's > birfh record. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Norm, I found a marriage for 1 of the sons Andrew Gullung who married Marie Schultz on 1-7-1886. Page 168 No. 2208. I could not read Catherina's last name. Also found a daughter Amella M.M. Gullung who married Herman D. Dinkgreve on 10-23-1901 page 273.There was no last name for Catherina. I have all the marriage dates for the children. But these are the only ones that I could find in the records. Maybe you will have better luck in reading her last name. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jakob Gullung and wife Catherine Judy, This is what we have so far on the place from which your Katharina S_______ Gullung came: http://home.comcast.net/~hellmers/german2/ I've presented the problem to the Germany mailing list and they are offering some interesting ideas and assistance. Stay tuned. In the meantime, we have the issue of Katharina's maiden name. I believe this puzzle demonstrates the importance of researching siblings. With the Gullungs having so many children, the records of their marriages and deaths could be pursued for a correct spelling of Katharina's last name. Some of the later death records include the full names of the parents, perhaps Andrew Henry Gullung's (28 Dec 1934) might have her name. It appears to me, after searching the St. Paul baptism records, that the Gullung children were not baptized there. I learned that Zinsweiler, Alsace, only had a Catholic parish, so perhaps Jakob was Catholic and his wife Katharina was Lutheran/Protestant, so they could be married at St. Paul, but their children would be baptized at a Catholic church. Do you have any information about their religion(s)? Given where they were living in the 9th ward and having a German background, perhaps the children were baptized at Holy Trinity. Holy Trinity has been closed for some time and the records are at the Archdiocesan Archives. Some of the baptism records were indexed in NEW ORLEANS GENESIS. See: http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~neworleans/german_church_records/08.html Beginning in 1965 these records were serialized. Search on Holy Trinity here for the various volumes: http://files.usgwarchives.org/la/orleans/newspapers/001-165.txt Perhaps you could ask the list for someone who has access to the old volumes of NOG to see if the Gullungs show up in the Holy Trinity baptism records. If so, you could ask for one from the Archdiocesan Archives to see if the mother's name is included. Some baptism records I have from Holy Trinity from around that time period (1859-1879) include the mother's maiden name and the names of the sponsors. Do you have a death record or obituary for Katharina? Depending on when she died, there might be an obituary in the German newspaper, the Tägliche Deutsche Zeitung. These occasionally give the decedent's specific place of origin. Just thoughts for your further research. Norm --- Judy Fisher <jzamboni@cox.net> wrote: > Thanks Norm. I did not know were in Alsace Jacob was > born. Knew along that > he was from Alsace and Catherina was from > Wurttemberg from the information > on my great-great grandmothers Mary Magdelena's > birfh record. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message