Norm, Located my picture of the family bible. It list Jacob being born on 6-24-1834, died Saturday,5-28-1892 and Catherine being born on 1-28-1839, died Saturday,5-27-1912.So it is good news that the Jacob Gullung you found is my Jacob Gullung. Need to check on one other deaththat is entered but very very faded in the bible. Is their any way to find out if Jacob had any brothers and sister? Thanks for any help. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Fisher" <jzamboni@cox.net> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jakob Gullung and wife Catherine Thanks Norm. I did not know were in Alsace Jacob was born. Knew along that he was from Alsace and Catherina was from Wurttemberg from the information on my great-great grandmothers Mary Magdelena's birfh record. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jakob Gullung and wife Catherine Judy, I believe I have one of them for you. Jakob Gullung was apparently from Zinsweiler (Zinswiller) in Alsace. (It is Zinsweiler in German; Zinswiller in French.) Family Search shows quite a few people named Gullung from Zinswiller, which is in the Bas-Rhin Department of today's France. I don't know if it's your person, but Family Search shows a Jacques (Jacob) Gullung born in Zinswiller on 25 June 1834. This is the approximate year your Jacob was born. This Jacques/Jacob was the son of Jacques Gullung and Charlotte Breiner. His wife Katharine/Catharine S________ is proving a bit more difficult. She MAY be from Schwanheim in Württemberg, but I'm still working on her home town, as well as her name. In your message you said that you found three ways to spell her name in the birth records of her children. I may have found a few more. Jacob Gullung and his wife Catharine had at least nine children: 1. Marie Magdalene, b. 26 April 1857 (She was listed in the 1880 census by the French form, Madeleine.) Mother's maiden name: Schaber 2. Barbara, b. ca 1859 Birth record not yet found 3. Andrew, b. ca 1862 Birth record not yet found 4. Louisa, b. 2 May 1867 Mother's maiden name: Scharburn 5. Thereza, b. 27 Aug 1869 (She was listed in the 1880 census as Catherine.) Mother's maiden name: Scherbum 6. John Jacob, b. 1 Jan 1872 Mother's maiden name: Scharbel 7. Joseph, b. 16 June 1874 Mother's maiden name: Shaler 8. Amelia, b. 30 June 1877 Mother's maiden name: Sharber 9. Arthur, b. 23 Nov 1879 Mother's maiden name: Schaber Were there more??? In trying to possibly learn more about Catherine's maiden name, I looked for them in the census records. Can I assume you have found them in the censuses: 1860, apparently the Jacob Collin in the 9th ward 1870, as Jacob Goulong 1880, as Jacob Gullang By 1900 he was deceased and his widow was living with their son Jacob, listed as Jack Gullung. I'll keep working on Catherine as time permits. Norm --- Norm Hellmers <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> wrote: . . . > The record is a bit hard to read. Give me some time > and I believe I can give you the home towns in > today's > France (Alsace) for Jakob Gullung and in Germany > (Württemberg) for Katharina S________. . . . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, How exciting that you have those Bible records. Wonderful! This gives you strong evidence that you have the right person. (Catherine's birth date will come in handy later.) The name and date that I sent to you (Jacques Gullung, born 25 Jun 1834) came from FamilySearch's IGI. Let's have you give it a shot. Go to FamilySearch.org. Click on the tab that says "SEARCH." On the left, click on "International Genealogical Index." (This is known as the "IGI," names and dates that have been extracted from a variety of records. Thankfully for you, it includes Zinswiller, Bas Rhin, France.) In the search form that comes up, enter Gullung in the "Last Name" box to the left. Then under "Region," select "Continental Europe." (DON'T check "Use Exact Spelling." Hit "Search." You should get 37 "hits." Some of these are duplicates, but you should be able to create families from this data, including Jacques (Jacob) Gullung and his parents and siblings, and it looks like, perhaps, his grandparents. Give it a try and see what you come up with. Let me know if you have any problems. Norm --- Judy Fisher <jzamboni@cox.net> wrote: > Located my picture of the family bible. It list > Jacob being born on > 6-24-1834, died Saturday,5-28-1892 and Catherine > being born on 1-28-1839, died Saturday,5-27-1912. . . . > Is their any way to find out if Jacob had any > brothers and sister? Thanks for any help. Judy . . . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Thanks Norm, I found plenty of his relatives on this site. Maybe one day I will find Catherina last name and her relatives.My cousin Lisa may e-mail you because your gg-grandfather married her great grandmother.Thanks again Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Finding Gullungs in the IGI > Judy, > > How exciting that you have those Bible records. > Wonderful! This gives you strong evidence that you > have the right person. (Catherine's birth date will > come in handy later.) > > The name and date that I sent to you (Jacques Gullung, > born 25 Jun 1834) came from FamilySearch's IGI. Let's > have you give it a shot. > > Go to FamilySearch.org. > Click on the tab that says "SEARCH." > On the left, click on "International Genealogical > Index." > (This is known as the "IGI," names and dates that > have been extracted from a variety of records. > Thankfully for you, it includes Zinswiller, Bas Rhin, > France.) > In the search form that comes up, enter Gullung in the > "Last Name" box to the left. Then under "Region," > select "Continental Europe." (DON'T check "Use Exact > Spelling." Hit "Search." > > You should get 37 "hits." Some of these are > duplicates, but you should be able to create families > from this data, including Jacques (Jacob) Gullung and > his parents and siblings, and it looks like, perhaps, > his grandparents. > > Give it a try and see what you come up with. Let me > know if you have any problems. > > Norm > > --- Judy Fisher <jzamboni@cox.net> wrote: >> Located my picture of the family bible. It list >> Jacob being born on >> 6-24-1834, died Saturday,5-28-1892 and Catherine >> being born on 1-28-1839, died Saturday,5-27-1912. > . . . >> Is their any way to find out if Jacob had any >> brothers and sister? Thanks for any help. Judy > . . . > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message