I don't believe that it is fair to call someone a "bloodline snob". Many researchers are looking for their heritage - which is bloodline. Genealogy research, as its very nature is bloodline. Some want to join heritage organizations, others just want the information. I see no reason that an adopted person should not research their adopted family's heritage. Just be sure to not pass along or include any of the information on themselves as "family". Sounds harsh, but the truth is that Genealogy is truly about Bloodline. We had a situation in our family that involved an adopted person (who did not know they were adopted) supplying information that was erroneous and caused many problems in having people believing and researching the wrong lines. Love and respect your adopted family as I am sure they do you. But please be careful to only pass along bloodline information Wilson Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Carpenter" <mbarker@austin.rr.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > Hi Allison > > I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my husband is > adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband knows his > birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth grandfather, and > his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us and > gave > my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been nothing > but > accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who all > know > he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted > family > that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling > because > they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the family. > When > I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just don't > say > anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never > bring > it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, and has > two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". > All that said, I believe that it really depends on the researcher. > Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are interested in the > entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance between > Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and > connecting. > If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the ones who > are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. > > Martha Carpenter > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > > >> Hi Nova, >> >> I have a question to ask the list. I was lucky enough to have the >> genealogy of my father's family done for me by an uncle years before I >> was >> born. I had always been interested in family history because it was >> there >> for me to know. My father's family had been on the Mississippi Coast >> (Biloxi) since D'Iberville landed. >> >> Nobody had done research on my mother's family, which is from New >> Orleans. >> My mother is adopted and there in comes the issue. My mother did not >> want >> me to pursue her biological family. My grandmother adopted three little >> girls, from the Protestant Home for Babies, in New Orleans. I even have >> mother's adoption papers with her birth mother's name listed. But none >> of >> the sisters have expressed any interest in their biological roots. >> However, they were eager for me to do research on their adopted family. >> Which I have done, with some measure of success. >> >> Apparently adoption is a volatile subject in genealogy. Recently, I have >> had two "cousins" stop corresponding with me as soon as they found out my >> mother was adopted. This has occurred within the last 6 months. >> >> I don't really know how to feel about this, it is quite upsetting. I >> dared not tell my mother or her sisters, because I would never say or do >> anything that would shame them about their adoption. >> >> Closer family members have done nothing but encourage me in my research. >> But I have had the snub happen before when I first started doing >> research, >> about six years ago. >> >> Can someone educate me about the prevailing attitude toward adoptees in >> genealogy? Are these snubs common for adoptees? Am I wrong in thinking >> that my mother's adopted family is just as legitimate as blood? I have >> and would never claim any type of heritage for joining associations like >> the DAR or their like. My grandmother was a great lady, and she chose my >> mother and her sisters to be her family, I don't see why we can't be her >> family too. >> >> Thank you for your consideration of this matter. >> >> Allison Eleuterius Bartsch >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wilson, It might be interesting to really know as we do our genealogy studies, eliminating those who are adopted from this research, how many of us are true legitimate descendants of ancestors. There may be less true bloodlines than we believe. Surely promiscuous behavior is not new in the 19 th- 21 st centuries. MM born in New Orleans, but living in TN On Apr 4, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Wilson wrote: > I don't believe that it is fair to call someone a "bloodline > snob". Many > researchers are looking for their heritage - which is bloodline. > Genealogy > research, as its very nature is bloodline. Some want to join heritage > organizations, others just want the information. I see no reason > that an > adopted person should not research their adopted family's > heritage. Just be > sure to not pass along or include any of the information on > themselves as > "family". Sounds harsh, but the truth is that Genealogy is truly > about > Bloodline. > > We had a situation in our family that involved an adopted person > (who did > not know they were adopted) supplying information that was > erroneous and > caused many problems in having people believing and researching the > wrong > lines. Love and respect your adopted family as I am sure they do > you. But > please be careful to only pass along bloodline information > > Wilson > Texas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martha Carpenter" <mbarker@austin.rr.com> > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:22 PM > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > > >> Hi Allison >> >> I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my >> husband is >> adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband >> knows his >> birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth >> grandfather, and >> his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us >> and >> gave >> my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been >> nothing >> but >> accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who >> all >> know >> he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted >> family >> that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling >> because >> they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the family. >> When >> I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just >> don't >> say >> anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never >> bring >> it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, >> and has >> two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". >> All that said, I believe that it really depends on the >> researcher. >> Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are >> interested in the >> entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance >> between >> Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and >> connecting. >> If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the >> ones who >> are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. >> >> Martha Carpenter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> >> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 PM >> Subject: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy >> >> >>> Hi Nova, >>> >>> I have a question to ask the list. I was lucky enough to have the >>> genealogy of my father's family done for me by an uncle years >>> before I >>> was >>> born. I had always been interested in family history because it was >>> there >>> for me to know. My father's family had been on the Mississippi >>> Coast >>> (Biloxi) since D'Iberville landed. >>> >>> Nobody had done research on my mother's family, which is from New >>> Orleans. >>> My mother is adopted and there in comes the issue. My mother did >>> not >>> want >>> me to pursue her biological family. My grandmother adopted three >>> little >>> girls, from the Protestant Home for Babies, in New Orleans. I >>> even have >>> mother's adoption papers with her birth mother's name listed. >>> But none >>> of >>> the sisters have expressed any interest in their biological roots. >>> However, they were eager for me to do research on their adopted >>> family. >>> Which I have done, with some measure of success. >>> >>> Apparently adoption is a volatile subject in genealogy. >>> Recently, I have >>> had two "cousins" stop corresponding with me as soon as they >>> found out my >>> mother was adopted. This has occurred within the last 6 months. >>> >>> I don't really know how to feel about this, it is quite >>> upsetting. I >>> dared not tell my mother or her sisters, because I would never >>> say or do >>> anything that would shame them about their adoption. >>> >>> Closer family members have done nothing but encourage me in my >>> research. >>> But I have had the snub happen before when I first started doing >>> research, >>> about six years ago. >>> >>> Can someone educate me about the prevailing attitude toward >>> adoptees in >>> genealogy? Are these snubs common for adoptees? Am I wrong in >>> thinking >>> that my mother's adopted family is just as legitimate as blood? >>> I have >>> and would never claim any type of heritage for joining >>> associations like >>> the DAR or their like. My grandmother was a great lady, and she >>> chose my >>> mother and her sisters to be her family, I don't see why we can't >>> be her >>> family too. >>> >>> Thank you for your consideration of this matter. >>> >>> Allison Eleuterius Bartsch >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

My aunt married once had six children and only three are her hubbys. I am one of only 4 people who know which children are not the hubby's and who the baby daddy really is. My Aunt, My Grandmother, My Grandfather and Me. I am the only one living. I am the youngest of all my grandmother's grandchildren born to her youngest child. and was raised by grandma. In the 70's children were seen and not heard from. I heard everything they had to say and remember it all. My hubby hates my memory. So how do we do the bloodline there? They all have the same father and mother on birth certificates, but blood they do not. One knows who his bio-dad was but the other 2 do not. Do I put it in my tree and hurt my cousin's feelings or do I take it to the grave as the others. But then again the health reasons they should know. this is why the one does know, because of his health and they needed answers. Mama's baby, daddy's maybe Darnell Marie Brunner Beck {Dee} "The Woman who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything." Edward J Phelps 1822 - 1900 Orleans Parish Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/orleans.htm My Home Page http://members.cox.net/darnellmbrunner/home.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Morris" <marilynmorris@charter.net> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > Wilson, > > It might be interesting to really know as we do our genealogy > studies, eliminating those who are adopted from this research, how > many of us are true legitimate descendants of ancestors. There may > be less true bloodlines than we believe. Surely promiscuous behavior > is not new in the 19 th- 21 st centuries. > > MM born in New Orleans, but living in TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Wilson wrote: > >> I don't believe that it is fair to call someone a "bloodline >> snob". Many >> researchers are looking for their heritage - which is bloodline. >> Genealogy >> research, as its very nature is bloodline. Some want to join heritage >> organizations, others just want the information. I see no reason >> that an >> adopted person should not research their adopted family's >> heritage. Just be >> sure to not pass along or include any of the information on >> themselves as >> "family". Sounds harsh, but the truth is that Genealogy is truly >> about >> Bloodline. >> >> We had a situation in our family that involved an adopted person >> (who did >> not know they were adopted) supplying information that was >> erroneous and >> caused many problems in having people believing and researching the >> wrong >> lines. Love and respect your adopted family as I am sure they do >> you. But >> please be careful to only pass along bloodline information >> >> Wilson >> Texas >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Martha Carpenter" <mbarker@austin.rr.com> >> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy >> >> >>> Hi Allison >>> >>> I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my >>> husband is >>> adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband >>> knows his >>> birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth >>> grandfather, and >>> his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us >>> and >>> gave >>> my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been >>> nothing >>> but >>> accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who >>> all >>> know >>> he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted >>> family >>> that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling >>> because >>> they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the family. >>> When >>> I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just >>> don't >>> say >>> anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never >>> bring >>> it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, >>> and has >>> two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". >>> All that said, I believe that it really depends on the >>> researcher. >>> Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are >>> interested in the >>> entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance >>> between >>> Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and >>> connecting. >>> If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the >>> ones who >>> are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. >>> >>> Martha Carpenter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> >>> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 PM >>> Subject: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy >>> >>> >>>> Hi Nova, >>>> >>>> I have a question to ask the list. I was lucky enough to have the >>>> genealogy of my father's family done for me by an uncle years >>>> before I >>>> was >>>> born. I had always been interested in family history because it was >>>> there >>>> for me to know. My father's family had been on the Mississippi >>>> Coast >>>> (Biloxi) since D'Iberville landed. >>>> >>>> Nobody had done research on my mother's family, which is from New >>>> Orleans. >>>> My mother is adopted and there in comes the issue. My mother did >>>> not >>>> want >>>> me to pursue her biological family. My grandmother adopted three >>>> little >>>> girls, from the Protestant Home for Babies, in New Orleans. I >>>> even have >>>> mother's adoption papers with her birth mother's name listed. >>>> But none >>>> of >>>> the sisters have expressed any interest in their biological roots. >>>> However, they were eager for me to do research on their adopted >>>> family. >>>> Which I have done, with some measure of success. >>>> >>>> Apparently adoption is a volatile subject in genealogy. >>>> Recently, I have >>>> had two "cousins" stop corresponding with me as soon as they >>>> found out my >>>> mother was adopted. This has occurred within the last 6 months. >>>> >>>> I don't really know how to feel about this, it is quite >>>> upsetting. I >>>> dared not tell my mother or her sisters, because I would never >>>> say or do >>>> anything that would shame them about their adoption. >>>> >>>> Closer family members have done nothing but encourage me in my >>>> research. >>>> But I have had the snub happen before when I first started doing >>>> research, >>>> about six years ago. >>>> >>>> Can someone educate me about the prevailing attitude toward >>>> adoptees in >>>> genealogy? Are these snubs common for adoptees? Am I wrong in >>>> thinking >>>> that my mother's adopted family is just as legitimate as blood? >>>> I have >>>> and would never claim any type of heritage for joining >>>> associations like >>>> the DAR or their like. My grandmother was a great lady, and she >>>> chose my >>>> mother and her sisters to be her family, I don't see why we can't >>>> be her >>>> family too. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your consideration of this matter. >>>> >>>> Allison Eleuterius Bartsch >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >