So, where would the registrations of births be? I have already contacted the Louisiana State Archives, and they have birth records for this period, but I take it that is NOT the registration that you are talking about. The Archives told me that these records (the birth records only, not the registrations of the births) have been microfilmed by the LDS, and so should be available on FamilySearch.org. Or is it the same, and am I confused? Thanks for clearing up the mud................! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My Great Grandfather was a Mason Kathy,I have also found that if the birth was registered often more detailed locations of the birthplace of the parents are listed. My g/g/grandmother registered in 1857 her son, my g/grandfather 8 years after his birth in 1849 in NOLA and another son when she registered her newborn daughter. It gave all the German political subdivisions, down to the town, where both she and her husband came from. Check the birth index and if you can find him it would be worthwhile sending for the record(s). And Norm's the man for explaining [almost anything German] especially the political subdivision stuff, which can be quite tangled since it frequently changed prior to German unification. Good luck, Cate ;-} -----Original Message----- From: Kathy CochranSent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:37 PMTo: [email protected]: Re: [LAORLEAN] My Great Grandfather was a Mason Norm, This was some great stuff you sent. I have exhausted most of the sources / suggestions you made..............but the last one you mentioned, that of finding CIVIL records of the birth children in NOLA might be fruitful. You mentioned that "especially the earlier ones" might give the area of Germany from which the immigrant came. My Born children were born in NOLA from 1855-1879. Is this per chance the time period that you were talking about as "earlier"? Thanks again ......Kathy -----Original Message-----From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Norm HellmersSent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:49 AMTo: [email protected]: Re: [LAORLEAN] My Great Grandfather was a Mason Kathy,The soc.genealogy.german archives includes this FAQ:Subject: 10. How can I find out what village my ancestor came from? This is sometimes easy, sometimes quite difficult, and sometimes impossible. This is the general order of resources to be used in finding the German origin of German-American families: o Narratives from older relatives. o Previous family research, notes, etc., if available. o Family documents or mementos from the old country. o US census (1920 and earlier) - can learn immigration and/or naturalization year. o IGI, for uncommon names, if the birth or marriage date is known, or if two names in combination are known. o Passenger ship records, both arrival lists and embarkation lists, and indexes like _Germans to America_. o Naturalization records - usually held at the county level in the US. o Obituaries, especially in German-language newspapers. o American church records. o County histories/genealog! ies. o Local historical/genealogical societies. o Local fraternal and other ethnic or cultural organizations. o Tombstones or cemetery records. o German state emigration records and indexes, including citizenship release papers, passports, estate and debt settlement papers, property sales, departure taxes, expulsion papers, and records for transportation of minors. o US Social Security records, for individuals living after 1935. Note that the Social Security Death Index is only a start. o Probate records. o US Civil War pension or other military records, if appropriate. o Ahnenstammkartei (ASTAKA). o Individuals in Germany with the same name, but only if the name is very unusual or if you know approximately where your ancestor came from. o Neighbors in America, because sometimes unrelated families emigrated together. o Contemporary newspapers, which often printed passenger lists and emigrant correspondence.See also:http://w! ww.familysearch.org/eng/search/rg/guide/tracing_immigrant_orig! ins.aspD o you have the civil birth records for all of Jacob’s children born in Orleans Parish? Some of mine, especially the earlier ones, give the area of Germany from which the immigrant came. That would be a start.Norm--- On Thu, 12/9/10, Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:.. .. . > My great-grandfather Edward Augustus Born was born in> Orleans Parish, New> Orleans 7 Aug 1855. He lived his adult married life> in Corpus Christi,> Texas, but I am wondering if I could find out if his> father, my great-great> grandfather, Jacob Born, a partner in the Rice-Born> Hardware Store, Ltd.,> was also a Mason as well. And if so, maybe I could> eventually find out what> town in Germany he emigrated from. Does anyone have> any suggestions about> how to find this?.. . . -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, The original 19th-century Orleans Parish birth registration records, and microfilm copies, are held by the Louisiana State Archives. To my knowledge, microfilms of these records are available no where else. Indexes to these records are available in several places: -- in notebooks and on microfilm at the Louisiana State Archives. I believe these indexes were created in the 1930s by the WPA. These have been superseded by online indexes. -- at the website of the Louisiana State Archives. See: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/641/Default.aspx but the index is incomplete, covering only the late 19th century and the early 20th century. -- on Ancestry.com (at your library or through a subscription). See: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=6587 Perhaps the best index is the one Barbara used to find some Born births at the Louisiana Archives site at USGenWeb: http://www.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans.htm It was created by NOVA volunteers entering data from the paper indexes at the Louisiana State Archives. It can be searched alphabetically: http://www.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/birth-alpha.htm or by year: http://www.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/birth-index.htm Note that on the Born births Barbara found for you, the volume and page columns are mislabeled, as Barbara suggested. Once you have the name, birth date, volume and page, you can make a copy for yourself at the Louisiana State Archives for 50 cents, or you can order a copy by mail for $5.00 each. You can order copies using this form: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/Portals/0/archives/forms/LFP3LH8PublicVitalRecordsApplicationForm.pdf Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any luck. Norm --- On Fri, 12/10/10, Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: > So, where would the registrations of > births be?  I have already contacted the Louisiana > State Archives, and they have birth records for this period, > but I take it that is NOT the registration that you are > talking about.  The Archives told me that these records > (the birth records only, not the registrations of the > births) have been microfilmed by the LDS, and so should be > available on FamilySearch.org.   Or is it the > same, and am I confused?  > > Thanks for clearing up the mud................! > > Kathy . . .

Norm - this is ALSO brilliant. I have been at the usgwarchives link ALL DAY NOW - I have learned a lot of little pieces..........about a lot of people. Thanks so much again! I will keep you all posted on what I find.............! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Norm Hellmers Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My Great Grandfather was a Mason Kathy, The original 19th-century Orleans Parish birth registration records, and microfilm copies, are held by the Louisiana State Archives. To my knowledge, microfilms of these records are available no where else. Indexes to these records are available in several places: -- in notebooks and on microfilm at the Louisiana State Archives. I believe these indexes were created in the 1930s by the WPA. These have been superseded by online indexes. -- at the website of the Louisiana State Archives. See: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/641/Default.aspx but the index is incomplete, covering only the late 19th century and the early 20th century. -- on Ancestry.com (at your library or through a subscription). See: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=6587 Perhaps the best index is the one Barbara used to find some Born births at the Louisiana Archives site at USGenWeb: http://www.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans.htm It was created by NOVA volunteers entering data from the paper indexes at the Louisiana State Archives. It can be searched alphabetically: http://www.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/birth-alpha.htm or by year: http://www.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/birth-index.htm Note that on the Born births Barbara found for you, the volume and page columns are mislabeled, as Barbara suggested. Once you have the name, birth date, volume and page, you can make a copy for yourself at the Louisiana State Archives for 50 cents, or you can order a copy by mail for $5.00 each. You can order copies using this form: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/Portals/0/archives/forms/LFP3LH8PublicVitalReco rdsApplicationForm.pdf Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any luck. Norm --- On Fri, 12/10/10, Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: > So, where would the registrations of > births be?  I have already contacted the Louisiana > State Archives, and they have birth records for this period, > but I take it that is NOT the registration that you are > talking about.  The Archives told me that these records > (the birth records only, not the registrations of the > births) have been microfilmed by the LDS, and so should be > available on FamilySearch.org.   Or is it the > same, and am I confused?  > > Thanks for clearing up the mud................! > > Kathy . . . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message