My great grandmother arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: Charles, from Havre, on July 29,1840. Another family that had the same last name (Hassinger) arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship:  F. Depain, from Havre, on December 8,1845. Maybe the Germans who came to New Orleans around 1805 did not want to live under the influence of the French. Some parts of Germany suffered greatly from the French Predatory Wars.  The French Revolution was from 1793 - 1805. During that time, the French invaded and ruled over a section of Germany, and many of the towns were being destroyed, and many of the people were displaced or left.  " Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805?  I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time." Betty Ca. by way of New Orleans, La. --- On Sat, 10/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 11:01 AM My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835.  He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert.  He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees".  I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from?  Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805?  I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage  Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said.  My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland".  Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31.  The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba.  So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"!  Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then.  It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory.  So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder"  or someone from Switzerland.   That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies ---  maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, Where were you able to find the information about your ancestor arriving on the ship, Charles from Le Havre? Did you find that on-line? I am wondering why so many came via France from Germany? My great grandfather was said to have been born in Berlin, Prussia in 1805.....so assume that Prussia had dominion over Germany at the time. I too would be interested in learning what influenced them to migrate at this time. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Ware" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA My great grandmother arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: Charles, from Havre, on July 29,1840. Another family that had the same last name (Hassinger) arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: F. Depain, from Havre, on December 8,1845. Maybe the Germans who came to New Orleans around 1805 did not want to live under the influence of the French. Some parts of Germany suffered greatly from the French Predatory Wars. The French Revolution was from 1793 - 1805. During that time, the French invaded and ruled over a section of Germany, and many of the towns were being destroyed, and many of the people were displaced or left. " Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time." Betty Ca. by way of New Orleans, La. --- On Sat, 10/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 11:01 AM My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Somehow - I wound up with a printed report called "This and That Genealogy Tips on German Records" - I think it came thru Ancestry.com, but I am not sure. It says: Germans arrived in America during 3 broadly drawn periods: 1683-1820 This emigration was largely caused by religious persecution following from the changes wrought by the Thirty Years War, and by economic hardship. Many were Protestants from the Palatinate area of Germany. 1820-1871 Economic hardships, including those caused by unemployment, crop failures, and starvation, were the primary cause of emigration during this period, in combination with wars and military service. Most of these emigrants came from Alsace-Lorraine, Baden, Hessen, Rhineland, and Wurttemburg. 1871-1914 Emigration became more affordable during this period, as well as much more common. All areas of Germany contributed, including Prussia. Hope this helps. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Betty, Where were you able to find the information about your ancestor arriving on the ship, Charles from Le Havre? Did you find that on-line? I am wondering why so many came via France from Germany? My great grandfather was said to have been born in Berlin, Prussia in 1805.....so assume that Prussia had dominion over Germany at the time. I too would be interested in learning what influenced them to migrate at this time. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Ware" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA My great grandmother arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: Charles, from Havre, on July 29,1840. Another family that had the same last name (Hassinger) arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: F. Depain, from Havre, on December 8,1845. Maybe the Germans who came to New Orleans around 1805 did not want to live under the influence of the French. Some parts of Germany suffered greatly from the French Predatory Wars. The French Revolution was from 1793 - 1805. During that time, the French invaded and ruled over a section of Germany, and many of the towns were being destroyed, and many of the people were displaced or left. " Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time." Betty Ca. by way of New Orleans, La. --- On Sat, 10/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 11:01 AM My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message