I don't know. I'm not seeing those designations. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 12:32 pm Subject: RE: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Thank you for this great map source! Can you tell me what the designation efore each country means....KCR and also seen as KSR ? -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] n Behalf Of [email protected] ent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 10:09 AM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA sometimes use www.maproom.org Danna Acker andeville, LA ----Original Message----- rom: Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> o: [email protected] ent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 11:45 am ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA o, how or where can I get a map of Europe, particulary rmany/France/Switzerland about 1833-1836? ----Original Message----- om: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Behalf Of [email protected] nt: Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:02 AM : [email protected]; [email protected] bject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 w Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA y German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came rough the Port of New Orleans. anna Acker ndeville, LA ----Original Message----- om: Helen Smith <[email protected]> : [email protected] nt: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am bject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 w Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA an and all, ave been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. mann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 etery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in out 835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical ncert. e is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at irees". I have ooked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from rmany with no luck. A eply from the William's Research Center said that e ost likely came through ew York as they could not find him on what ecords hey had. es anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked om? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to ompt them to come to America at that time. y incite appreciated. len Lehmann Smith o, TX ------------------------------------------------ m: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> t: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 w rleans, Orleans Parish, LA Let me add to what Cate has said. My aumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my randfather, per his mother and ather. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine as the german part of witzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady rn in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, he n 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So hat's hat I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and ve already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these ooks, ecords, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL ------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer ate: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR ,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, ou have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word erplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. ermany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political bdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one other for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow lish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 ort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe e change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or omeone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in avaria hich is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of itzerland. e was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- ybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the otes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message