FYI I just posted all the references to the surname Hotard which appear in Kenneth B Toup's book "Bourgeois Lines" on the [email protected] mailing list..... if anyone on the LAORLEAN list would like to have these, you can browse or search there. It should be the most recent posting as this is not a very active list. Blessings for Carolyn who made this possible by making the book available to me. You could also contact me off list and I'll send to you privately. Or I could do a look-up for another surname. Renee in St. Louis