Thank you Jan, for all the info. Yes, my Great-Great-Grandparents were Jacob Born and Mena Rice. I too am fascinated with reference to the 1833 Harriet & Jesse Ship from Le Havre, but it says they were from Switzerland, not Germany. And there I have become perplexed. I also have been unable to find anywhere where Mena's father, Henry Augustus Rice died. He was in business in New Orleans with Jacob, his son-in-law, under the name The Rice-Born Hardware Company, Ltd. Listed in the New Orleans City Directory in 1890-1891 (Jacob died 2/1/1889) it stated Henry Rice and Estate of Jacob Born, leading me to believe that Henry was still alive in 1890. Any clues? Thanks, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Strickland Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:01 PM To: LAOrleans Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA First, Kathy welcome to the list. This is the greatest group for New Orleans research that there is. My GGgrandparents were also married in the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church). Someone made a trip to one of the LDS libraries and found the record, but the copy made from the microfilm was just too faint to read. But that is your best bet, go to any LDS library and tell them what you are looking for. They can get the film from the vault. In the FHL records I find Jacob Borne married Mina Rice on 3 Aug 1854, so I assume that is your GGgrandparents In the birth records on our site, I found the following Frank Beauregard Born - dob: 10/24/1861 Edward Augustus Born - dob: 8/14/1855 Jacob Born - dob: 7/18/1874 Ella Rovina Born - dob: 2/23/1866 Laura Edna Born - dob: 12/11/1863 Minnie Lee Born - 4/1/1868 Wallace Rice Born - 4/5/1879 Henry Howard Born - 12/18/1857 You can go to the site: http://files.usgwarchives net/la/orleans/vitals/births/index/nobibobq.txt and get the Vol & Pg # and get copies of the original records from the Louisiana Archives in Baton Rouge, LA I also found Jacob and "Mena" and their children and Mina's mother, Catherine, and a brother, George Rice in the 1880 census in New Orleans, LA He was indeed born in Germany and she was born in Ohio. A Jacob Born (b 1828) came to the US on 23 Aug 1833 from Le Harve, France aboard the Harriet and Jesse, with parents and 5 siblings. Hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of further help. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Kathy Cochran Date: 9/29/2010 12:20:02 PM To: [email protected] Cc: 'gbishida'; [email protected] Subject: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hello, I am new to this list, and would love some assistance. My GG-grandfather, Jacob Born was born in Germany, in some censuses it says Baden, on his Naturalization papers it says Hesse Darmstadt. His 1st son, my G-grandfather, was Edward Augustus Born, b 7 August 1855. Both the marriage and the baptism occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) in Orleans Parish, New Orleans. The church burned down in 1860, but the records were saved, and the LDS has put them on film. I am hoping to be able to locate church records for either of the two events, either the marriage or the baptism which occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) that would state the town or village in Germany where Jacob was born. His father's Americanized name was John, he was probably Johannes in Germany, and early on. Jacob's naturalization papers say that they came over in 1836, but no ship's name or port was listed, so I am wondering if even the year is correct. (It is very possible that they landed 1st in Ohio, because that is where Mena was born, and so maybe they met there, but I haven't been able to ascertain this as yet.) So, from what I have learned, this is what I need: FHL US/CAN Film 1311102 Item 2 I believe the whole film is from the Lafayette Presbyterian Church, in Orleans Parish. This has Marriages 1843 - 1871 (I am looking for Aug 3 OR 5, 1854) Jacob and Mena Born This has Baptisms 1841-1855 (My G-grandfather Edward Augustus Born) was born Aug 7, 1855, but I don't have a baptismal date for him. Does anyone out there have access to these records? I would be thrilled, to say the least, if anyone can share this information. Kindest regards in advance, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message