Friends, bear with me and forgive this lengthy post. This is a subject in which I'm intensely interested. Carolyn The idea of "plaçage" is certainly the prevailing myth about interracial couples. There is indeed evidence that this happened, and that some of these arrangements took place at the "quadroon balls," but this isn't the only way in which white men and free women of color formed relationships. My thinking on this has evolved over the years, in part because of my association with scholars like Greg Osborn and Barbara Trevigne, both Creoles of Color who are descended from interracial families. I wrote in my biography of Marie Laveau (published in 2006): "In contrast to the exploitative sexual relationships between masters and slave women, white men and free women of color formed liaisons that, although unlawful, often resembled true marriages. Legally, this was termed concubinage (which refers to any domestic partnership outside of marriage regardless of the race of the parties), but in common parlance the practice was known as plaçage, from the French verb placer--to place (under a man's protection). The woman was called a plaçée. In contravention of laws forbidding whites to make donations to persons of color, the man would provide a small cottage and support his plaçée and their children for life, even if he also established a white family. The house became the property of the woman and could be passed on to her heirs." But even then I found that Marie had first been legally married to a free man of color, and it was only after she was widowed that she formed a partnership with an unmarried white man, Christophe Glapion, that lasted for the rest of his life. Of her two daughters, Heloise had children with Pierre Crocker, a free man of color who was already married; Philomene became the partner of Alexandre Legendre, a white man, only after his wife had left him and took their children to New York--this relationship lasted until he died. So none of these were cases of "plaçage." By the time I was writing my new biography of Delphine Macarty Lalaurie (published in 2012) I was finding that none of the interracial Macarty families got together through the system of plaçage, and that the women acquired their property on their own, not from their white partners, For example: Delphine's father, Louis Barthelemy Macarty, and uncle, Jean Baptiste Macarty, had relationships with free women of color after their wives died. Other Macarty men (Jean Baptiste Barthelemy, Eugene, and Augustin) were never married but had relationships with free women of color. The most interesting of these is Eulalie Mandeville de Marigny (biracial half-sister of Bernard de Marigny), who met her white partner Eugene Macarty because she allowed him to cut timber on land that she owned in St.Bernard Parish. She became a very successful business woman--see the entry on her in KnowLa, the online Louisiana Encyclopedia. Last month I gave a talk at the Worcester Art Museum in conjunction with the exhibition Julien Hudson, Free Artist of Color, which originated at the Historic New Orleans Collection. There I said that "The stereotypical narrative of the slave-holding South assumes that any mulatto child was the result of rape or coercion of the enslaved mother by a brutal white master or overseer. In New Orleans, on the other hand, a different myth prevails, of a wealthy white planter who selects a beautiful young woman of color at a so-called quadroon ball, makes an arrangement with her female relatives, establishes her in a nice cottage in the city, and visits his concubine and their children on the sly while his wife remains isolated on their rural plantation. Some interracial couples probably did meet at these elegant dances that were held for the purpose of matchmaking. But, like white couples, they also met under a variety of other circumstances." Also see this link to a lecture given at Le Musee de FPC by the Tulane University historian Emily Clark: http://www.tribunetalk.com/?features=le-musee-de-f-p-c-presents-dr-emily-clark

I agree with your logic. But, unfortunately I can't do this with this couple. The only information I have is their son Jean's family. And he would not talk about his family so even this couples grandchildren did not know anything about their grandparents or even Aunts or Uncles or cousins. We don't know if their son Jean had siblings even. So, there is no where to go with the extended family. But, I think I will just start putting together all of the MAURICE families in LA and see if something pops! I have searched all of Father HEBERT's books, Diocese of Baton Rouge, Diocese of New Orleans, and several books. Also, Roots Web, familysearch, and ancestry. What would you suggest as more sources in LA where I might get lucky? Like I said earlier many of my LA family have done research over the last 40+ years with no luck and they had access to many of the resources there. Is there any newer sources that they might not have searched? I estimate this couple was probably born around 1830s but is only a guess. Thank you, Shelia -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alexa Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 1:23 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie Another thing I do is track people with the same surname in the same locality.  I track their extended families, too.  Most times I've found a relationship connection to my original person. Another trick is to research thoroughly all of the people related to the original person, even people related to spouses of siblings, cousins, etc.  Can't tell you how many times those extended "relatives" have given me clues and solved mysteries. Obituaries and society marriage notices are extremely helpful. Don't forget cemeteries.  Many times family members are buried in the same cemetery, in the same tomb, or sometimes in the same area of a cemetery.  Copy the names and research them, too. Alexa --- On Fri, 6/22/12, jans884@bellsouth.net <jans884@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: jans884@bellsouth.net <jans884@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie To: "LAOrleans" <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 9:10 AM As a matter of fact I did this with two parts of my family from Louisiana I collected all the HEPP and the POTTIER/POTIER/POTHIER folks in trees and then began to put them together.  That and tons of suggestions from Christophe Landry and Creole KCat finally figured out my group.  Works great and then can be merged when you figure it all out. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Shelia Salomone Date: 6/22/2012 4:36:56 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie I forgot to ask another question regarding this query/help request. Does anyone know who the MAURICE and SEMOUR/SYMOURE progenitors were? I might try to work backwards. And another thing I thought about doing was to list all MAURICE names that can be found in LA.  (Just do genealogy trees with this name.). And then try to group them into families. Has anyone ever done this kind of strategy and been successful with finding their long lost brick wall ancestor? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another thing I do is track people with the same surname in the same locality.  I track their extended families, too.  Most times I've found a relationship connection to my original person. Another trick is to research thoroughly all of the people related to the original person, even people related to spouses of siblings, cousins, etc.  Can't tell you how many times those extended "relatives" have given me clues and solved mysteries. Obituaries and society marriage notices are extremely helpful. Don't forget cemeteries.  Many times family members are buried in the same cemetery, in the same tomb, or sometimes in the same area of a cemetery.  Copy the names and research them, too. Alexa --- On Fri, 6/22/12, jans884@bellsouth.net <jans884@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: jans884@bellsouth.net <jans884@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie To: "LAOrleans" <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 9:10 AM As a matter of fact I did this with two parts of my family from Louisiana I collected all the HEPP and the POTTIER/POTIER/POTHIER folks in trees and then began to put them together.  That and tons of suggestions from Christophe Landry and Creole KCat finally figured out my group.  Works great and then can be merged when you figure it all out. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Shelia Salomone Date: 6/22/2012 4:36:56 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie I forgot to ask another question regarding this query/help request. Does anyone know who the MAURICE and SEMOUR/SYMOURE progenitors were? I might try to work backwards. And another thing I thought about doing was to list all MAURICE names that can be found in LA.  (Just do genealogy trees with this name.). And then try to group them into families. Has anyone ever done this kind of strategy and been successful with finding their long lost brick wall ancestor? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does St. Anthony like being called "Tony"?  Maybe so, if your prayers get answered. I just thought of another thing I do to call ancestors, I post their pictures near my workspace.  If I don't have a pic of a particular ancestor, I post one of someone who was close to them or descended from them - a son, daughter, sibling, grandchild, or a spouse, etc.  I find it to be very helpful.  Must be a vibe thing.  Sometimes I ever ask them to "Show me where you were". Alexa --- On Thu, 6/21/12, Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer wrote: On to the other thread about "whispering ancestors" ... this has happened to me so much over the years, I now say a little prayer before doing some especially intent research to ask their and a saint's help.  Carolyn Long will love my spiritual practice.  I pray to St. Anthony, the lost and found saint for you non-Catholics, that goes like this:  "Tony, Tony look around something's (or someone's) lost that must be found" (a prayer taught to me by a coworker from Marksville many, many years ago)  Than I offer him a monetary amount for the poor box (amount usually dependent on how important the intention is or how quickly I'd like a resolution).  He nearly always comes through and I nearly always pay up.  Now I don't mean this in a sacrilegious way.  Just one of my techniques meaningful coincidences rather and blind pigs looking for acorns.    Cate ;-}

Kathy and all, It wasn't so much that the information wasn't available, it was many-fold: 1) misspelled names 2) unknown surname of my great-grandmother 3) where the people lived 4) multiple transcription errors 5) marriage of first cousins and more Actually, first cousins marrying was a blessing, even though confusing at first, because it helped to establish a main family line which proved our ancestors came to Massachusetts not long after the first Pilgrims arrived, and proved my ancestors were English. Even though I had my grandfather's birth certificate, his mother's surname was illegible.  I had been going through all possibilities looking for the family.  On the night my uncle died, grandson of my g-grandparents, I found the family on the 1880 census, where miraculously, the enumerated had written the birth dates of everyone!  Not only that, since my grandparents were first cousins, the family members were close to each other.  It was then easy to trace them.  Also on the same night, I found my grandfather's WWI draft registration (his name was totally butchered by the transcriber but clear on the form).  Finding the census info and the WWI card, I had a good sense of where the family was living.  Finding my grandparents marriage certificate the next day, placed my great-grandmother in Texas and still alive long after family tradition said she died. Which brings me to family lore and living people.  The worst thing I ever did was believe my grandmother's story that my grandfather's mother died when he was a little boy and he had been placed in an orphanage.  It turned out g-granny had lived until 1945, more than 30 years after her supposed death and 11 years after the death of her son, my grandfather! I found g-granny in another location in Texas using her name, place of birth, and year of birth - and, viola!, she popped up.  Knowing her birth date was an enormous help in finding her. So, I've learned to take family lore with a grain of salt.  Even when working on other people's lines, I make note of the lore, but don't count it as fact until I can prove it. Alexa Genealogy research since 1974 --- On Thu, 6/21/12, Kathy Cochran wrote: I'm curious about what you found AFTER he died, that wasn't available BEFORE he died. Also, some of my brick walls are living people. Cheers,  Kathy

Shelia: I am a volunteer researcher at Historical Research Center (Archives) in Thibodaux. I was able to view the original funeral and marriage records for John Morris. The death record doesn't give additional info than you already have. On the marriage record, the priest (a French priest) lists the name as Jean Maurice. The groom signed John Morris. Groom's mother is Francois Semour. In the book "Comet Microfilm Index" published by Terrebonne Genealogy Society, there is a listing for the death of John Morris. The information given is that John Morris 83, was born 6/??/1855 and died 3/9/1939. He is the father of Frank, Philip, Mrs. Jack Collins, Eve Kremer, Jane, Mrs. W.C. Mix and Mrs. Xavier Toups. This record can be found in the Comet dated 3/16/1939, Thursday on page 5, col. 4. The Comet is a local newspaper. Wish there were more information to give you. Cecilia Richard -----Original Message----- I haven't sent out my brick wall to this list yet. This is the couple that have stumped my family for decades now. We can't seem to find mention of them except from their son's few documents. Their son is my gr-gr grandfather and he would not have anything to do with his family nor would he talk about them. No one knows why. He only states who they are when he is married. And they are stated as his parents when he dies. So far this is the only mention of them and no one has been able to find the couple. Maybe I will get lucky one of these days? Still keeping my fingers crossed. Jean MAURICE & Frances SEMOUR/LEMOUR/SYMOURE Their son Jean MAURICE was also known as John MORRIS. The family started spelling the last name of MAURICE as MORRIS with my gr-gr grandfather. I assume because this is the English pronunciation of MAURICE.

That is right, Cynthia. They seem to be hitting the lists badly! Most of the ones I received were from Roots-L. -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of C. G. Dean Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:22 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Mail hackers on the rise It's not just LAORLEAN list. I'm getting them from various Roots-L lists in different states. Cynthia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are completely correct in your statement about Alsace-Lorraine belonging to Germany at one point and France at other times. However, Alzey, formerly in Hesse-Darmstadt, now in Worms-Palatinate, where my Born family came from, was NEVER within the borders of Alsace-Lorraine or France. Cheers, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Fisher Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:16 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] If you need help... Late night findings Please correct me if I am wrong, but Alsace Lorraine at one time belong to Germany and at an other time it belong to France. I was told that some people who looked French had German last names and some people who looked German had French last names. Alsace Lorraine kept going back and forth between the to countries because of the wars. -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cochran Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:57 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] If you need help... Late night findings I'm curious about what you found AFTER he died, that wasn't available BEFORE he died. Also, some of my brick walls are living people. A 2nd cousin of mine REFUSES to believe that our Borns came from Germany, and were German throughout all the wars............because my grandmother and her mother had always reported that they were from Alsace-Lorraine. I have sent her the Declaration of Intent to Emmigrate, and birth docs, etc., but she thinks I am being "disrespectful and dismissive of the family lore." Nonetheless, it is apparent that since these stories were all passed down in the oral tradition, someone (probably my grandmother) may have been told "Alzey [Hesse-Darmstadt]" and then looked up in the Encyclopedia and found Alsace Lorraine, and erroneously construed that this was the origin of our ancestors. My cousin's Ancestry tree still shows "no father - no mother" for our g-g grandfather Jacob Born. Oh well, her loss. SHE is the brick wall! I seem to have busted through it! Cheers, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alexa Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:35 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] If you need help... Late night findings Pat and everyone, If you need help, just give us a holler.  Some ancestors are more difficult to find.  Some lines I can Brees (wink) through in one long sitting while others I've worked on for decades with little luck. As bizarre as it sounds, I've had MAJOR breakthroughs when a family member dies.  The night my uncle died, within about 2 hours of his death, I broke through the brickwall of his line, which is also my mother's.  I'd been searching for the people for over 30 years, and that night I found several connections to the line and its branches that gave me tons, TONS, of new information.  The next day I made a trip to the courthouse in Donaldsonville and found much, much more needed information. It's happened this way for me for my own relatives several times, as well as for other people's lines I've worked on.  When a member of their families died, I found goldmines worth of info almost immediately. Who says the dead don't want to be found?  Some, yes, but most want their families to know about them - the good, the bad, and the ugly. Alexa - Who Dat fan all the way Genealogy research since 1974 Ancestral hauntings - I ain't afraid-a no ghosts... --- On Thu, 6/21/12, PatFreeman5@aol.com <PatFreeman5@aol.com> wrote: From: PatFreeman5@aol.com <PatFreeman5@aol.com> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Fold 3 - Military Records To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 21, 2012, 10:16 AM I am glad that your ancestors whisper to you,  I just wish that some  of mine would whisper or even YELL.  I hate it when I can't find that fact that I need to put with an ancestor. Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5086 - Release Date: 06/22/12

Thank you, Cecilia. This is my gr-gr grandfather. And unfortunately I do have all of this information but it his elusive parents that stump us. They just haven't been found. I don't have the Comet newspaper article though. Can this be found on Genealogy Bank? And the comet gives a third date now for his birth. We have never been able to find a birth record for Jean II. The family started using the MORRIS with his line from the way I understand it. But, I always look for MORRIS, too, just in case his father used it too. I was once told that the SEYMOUR family were French and lived in England and the line can be traced back to 1044. Does anyone know of this genealogy? Because I suspect that Francoise/Francis SEMOUR/SYMOURE may have been actually SEYMOUR. Thank you again, Shelia -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Richard Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:38 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie Shelia: I am a volunteer researcher at Historical Research Center (Archives) in Thibodaux. I was able to view the original funeral and marriage records for John Morris. The death record doesn't give additional info than you already have. On the marriage record, the priest (a French priest) lists the name as Jean Maurice. The groom signed John Morris. Groom's mother is Francois Semour. In the book "Comet Microfilm Index" published by Terrebonne Genealogy Society, there is a listing for the death of John Morris. The information given is that John Morris 83, was born 6/??/1855 and died 3/9/1939. He is the father of Frank, Philip, Mrs. Jack Collins, Eve Kremer, Jane, Mrs. W.C. Mix and Mrs. Xavier Toups. This record can be found in the Comet dated 3/16/1939, Thursday on page 5, col. 4. The Comet is a local newspaper. Wish there were more information to give you. Cecilia Richard -----Original Message----- I haven't sent out my brick wall to this list yet. This is the couple that have stumped my family for decades now. We can't seem to find mention of them except from their son's few documents. Their son is my gr-gr grandfather and he would not have anything to do with his family nor would he talk about them. No one knows why. He only states who they are when he is married. And they are stated as his parents when he dies. So far this is the only mention of them and no one has been able to find the couple. Maybe I will get lucky one of these days? Still keeping my fingers crossed. Jean MAURICE & Frances SEMOUR/LEMOUR/SYMOURE Their son Jean MAURICE was also known as John MORRIS. The family started spelling the last name of MAURICE as MORRIS with my gr-gr grandfather. I assume because this is the English pronunciation of MAURICE. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since this is a topic of seemingly continuing interest to many of us who have “real or family lore” ancestors from the region, I offer this site, which is ok’d by my Norton security package, (and there are lots more if you google) for your investigation. It is an area which produces most of the German white wines which I enjoy. But then I do have both those French and German (the most ancestry) genes (none from Alsace Lorraine per se) which I think account for my wine tastes. Though I don’t like beer ... but that’s a topic for an entirely different thread on another day! http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Alsace

Please correct me if I am wrong, but Alsace Lorraine at one time belong to Germany and at an other time it belong to France. I was told that some people who looked French had German last names and some people who looked German had French last names. Alsace Lorraine kept going back and forth between the to countries because of the wars. -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cochran Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:57 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] If you need help... Late night findings I'm curious about what you found AFTER he died, that wasn't available BEFORE he died. Also, some of my brick walls are living people. A 2nd cousin of mine REFUSES to believe that our Borns came from Germany, and were German throughout all the wars............because my grandmother and her mother had always reported that they were from Alsace-Lorraine. I have sent her the Declaration of Intent to Emmigrate, and birth docs, etc., but she thinks I am being "disrespectful and dismissive of the family lore." Nonetheless, it is apparent that since these stories were all passed down in the oral tradition, someone (probably my grandmother) may have been told "Alzey [Hesse-Darmstadt]" and then looked up in the Encyclopedia and found Alsace Lorraine, and erroneously construed that this was the origin of our ancestors. My cousin's Ancestry tree still shows "no father - no mother" for our g-g grandfather Jacob Born. Oh well, her loss. SHE is the brick wall! I seem to have busted through it! Cheers, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alexa Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:35 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] If you need help... Late night findings Pat and everyone, If you need help, just give us a holler.  Some ancestors are more difficult to find.  Some lines I can Brees (wink) through in one long sitting while others I've worked on for decades with little luck. As bizarre as it sounds, I've had MAJOR breakthroughs when a family member dies.  The night my uncle died, within about 2 hours of his death, I broke through the brickwall of his line, which is also my mother's.  I'd been searching for the people for over 30 years, and that night I found several connections to the line and its branches that gave me tons, TONS, of new information.  The next day I made a trip to the courthouse in Donaldsonville and found much, much more needed information. It's happened this way for me for my own relatives several times, as well as for other people's lines I've worked on.  When a member of their families died, I found goldmines worth of info almost immediately. Who says the dead don't want to be found?  Some, yes, but most want their families to know about them - the good, the bad, and the ugly. Alexa - Who Dat fan all the way Genealogy research since 1974 Ancestral hauntings - I ain't afraid-a no ghosts... --- On Thu, 6/21/12, PatFreeman5@aol.com <PatFreeman5@aol.com> wrote: From: PatFreeman5@aol.com <PatFreeman5@aol.com> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Fold 3 - Military Records To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 21, 2012, 10:16 AM I am glad that your ancestors whisper to you,  I just wish that some  of mine would whisper or even YELL.  I hate it when I can't find that fact  that I need to put with an ancestor. Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't think you know till someone tell you... -------Original Message------- From: Nancy Wright Date: 6/22/2012 10:14:36 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Mail hacker Question A question about hacking. Would one know your address has been hacked unless someone notifies you? Nancy From: <jans884@bellsouth.net> > And btw, if you are notified that your e-mail has been hacked, changing > your > password usually stops the hacker. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a matter of fact I did this with two parts of my family from Louisiana I collected all the HEPP and the POTTIER/POTIER/POTHIER folks in trees and then began to put them together. That and tons of suggestions from Christophe Landry and Creole KCat finally figured out my group. Works great and then can be merged when you figure it all out. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Shelia Salomone Date: 6/22/2012 4:36:56 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie I forgot to ask another question regarding this query/help request. Does anyone know who the MAURICE and SEMOUR/SYMOURE progenitors were? I might try to work backwards. And another thing I thought about doing was to list all MAURICE names that can be found in LA. (Just do genealogy trees with this name.). And then try to group them into families. Has anyone ever done this kind of strategy and been successful with finding their long lost brick wall ancestor?

Thanks Norm, My address is in my address book so I will know. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Mail hacker Question Nancy, I believe that if you have your own address in your contact list, and if you receive an email from yourself with no subject line or a message you did not send, it's likely your email account has been compromised or "hacked." Norm ________________________________ From: Nancy Wright <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Mail hacker Question A question about hacking. Would one know your address has been hacked unless someone notifies you? Nancy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And btw, if you are notified that your e-mail has been hacked, changing your password usually stops the hacker. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Shelia Salomone Date: 06/22/12 03:29:47 To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] Mail hackers on the rise Just wanted to send this alert! In the last week I have received numerous hacks from people I communicate with from different Louisiana genealogy subjects. One was even my cousin who lives in Louisiana. But, they have all been from people either living in LA or attached to genealogy mail lists pertaining to LA. I think the hackers are really attacking these group of people. Don't click on the links. Most of them appear to be advertisements trying to get you to buy something but they can hack you the same way and they can introduce viruses to your email. These people are despicable low life scum who needs to be caught but they are savvy with their programming knowledge and continue to attack us innocent people and make it look like we sent the email. All of the latest ones I have received can be recognized by two things. No Subject Line and the body contains just a link or a link telling you to check this out. DELETE it immediately and I always contact the person to tell them they have been hacked. Of course none of us blame the innocent one but it has happened to me and it is embarrassing. And I am a software/computer designer /programmer! They just need to let everyone know not to open them so it doesn't keep perpetuating. Sincerely, Shelia KRAEMER SALOMONE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's not just LAORLEAN list. I'm getting them from various Roots-L lists in different states. Cynthia

A question about hacking. Would one know your address has been hacked unless someone notifies you? Nancy From: <jans884@bellsouth.net> > And btw, if you are notified that your e-mail has been hacked, changing > your > password usually stops the hacker. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL >

Not unless you have an email address for yourself saved as one of your contacts.  If you did, you'd receive an email from yourself. ________________________________ From: Nancy Wright <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Mail hacker Question A question about hacking.  Would one know your address has been hacked unless someone notifies you? Nancy From: <jans884@bellsouth.net> > And btw, if you are notified that your e-mail has been hacked, changing > your > password usually stops the hacker. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I may have to try this with my brick walls, but they have such generic names - Charles Wells, William Scott, etc.  It's still worth a shot, though. ________________________________ From: "jans884@bellsouth.net" <jans884@bellsouth.net> To: LAOrleans <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie As a matter of fact I did this with two parts of my family from Louisiana I collected all the HEPP and the POTTIER/POTIER/POTHIER folks in trees and then began to put them together.  That and tons of suggestions from Christophe Landry and Creole KCat finally figured out my group.  Works great and then can be merged when you figure it all out. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Shelia Salomone Date: 6/22/2012 4:36:56 AM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] My brick wall from the newbie I forgot to ask another question regarding this query/help request. Does anyone know who the MAURICE and SEMOUR/SYMOURE progenitors were? I might try to work backwards. And another thing I thought about doing was to list all MAURICE names that can be found in LA.  (Just do genealogy trees with this name.). And then try to group them into families. Has anyone ever done this kind of strategy and been successful with finding their long lost brick wall ancestor? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi to all: I just finished removing 2 fake e-mails before I reached this one and had several in the last week. But there appears to be a new twist. Yesterday, I received a call from someone who claimed that he was with a service that had received complaints about my sending out virus e-mails and his company would help me get rid of them if I would let them get access to my computer over the internet. He was almost impossible to understand-definitely someone from India. I finally hung up and started checking my computer--no virus-no nothing. SO!! If someone calls about cleaning up your virus mail. GET RID OF THEM If you think you might have a virus and need help YOU initiate the contacts. One way they have gotten our email addresses in the past is through contributors pages. Louis On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Shelia Salomone wrote: > Just wanted to send this alert! In the last week I have received numerous > hacks from people I communicate with from different Louisiana genealogy > subjects. One was even my cousin who lives in Louisiana. But, they have all > been from people either living in LA or attached to genealogy mail lists > pertaining to LA. I think the hackers are really attacking these group of > people. > > > > Don't click on the links. Most of them appear to be advertisements trying to > get you to buy something but they can hack you the same way and they can > introduce viruses to your email. These people are despicable low life scum > who needs to be caught but they are savvy with their programming knowledge > and continue to attack us innocent people and make it look like we sent the > email. > > > > All of the latest ones I have received can be recognized by two things. No > Subject Line and the body contains just a link or a link telling you to > check this out. DELETE it immediately and I always contact the person to > tell them they have been hacked. Of course none of us blame the innocent one > but it has happened to me and it is embarrassing. And I am a > software/computer designer /programmer! They just need to let everyone know > not to open them so it doesn't keep perpetuating. > > > > Sincerely, > > Shelia KRAEMER SALOMONE > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message