I prefer Lists. Digests is too hard to scroll through! Personal preference though. If I had thought about it I would have realized exactly what the difference was. I read -B- real quick and couldn't think what that was!!! I am getting forgetful in my old age. The worst part of it is I have been a computer/software and web programmer/designer for 20+ years now! I am very embarrassed that I didn't think! I blame it on old age!!!! HE! HE! Thanks everyone, Shelia KRAEMER SALOMONE -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peggy Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:26 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] New Member If you meant L and D? L is LIST - you get everything as it's sent. D is DIGEST - you get them in one email. I've not done digest so it's hard to explain. Peggy New Orleans Proud On Jul 10, 2012, at 6:02 PM, "Shelia Salomone" <salomos@comcast.net> wrote: > What is the difference between -L- and -B-? > > Shelia KRAEMER > > -----Original Message----- > From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Barbara Munson > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:49 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] New Member > > To join LAORLEAN-L, send mail to LAORLEAN-L-request@rootsweb.com with > the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join > LAORLEAN-D, do the same thing with LAORLEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > Barbara Munson > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joan Schaefer <joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net> > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:47 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] New Member > > Hi everyone > Remind me how a new person can join our group Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is the difference between -L- and -B-? Shelia KRAEMER -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Munson Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:49 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] New Member To join LAORLEAN-L, send mail to LAORLEAN-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join LAORLEAN-D, do the same thing with LAORLEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com. Barbara Munson ________________________________ From: Joan Schaefer <joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] New Member Hi everyone Remind me how a new person can join our group Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To join LAORLEAN-L, send mail to LAORLEAN-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join LAORLEAN-D, do the same thing with LAORLEAN-D-request@rootsweb.com. Barbara Munson ________________________________ From: Joan Schaefer <joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] New Member Hi everyone Remind me how a new person can join our group Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Statewide death records over 50 years old are available from the state archives.  There's an online death index here:  http://www.sos.la.gov/tabid/640/Default.aspx Barbara Munson ________________________________ From: "bragi1@comcast.net" <bragi1@comcast.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 7:25 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Avoyelles Parish After 10 years of waiting I was finally able to break through my family brick wall with the 1940 census. I have found two additional generations but I need birth/death/marriage records from Avoyelles parish. If anyone can help point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated. Shane Voelker ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kirk, I have the images of those two pages and will sent them to you via private email. Dwayne Montz On 7/9/2012 9:49 AM, kirfran@aol.com wrote: > If anyone is headed to the New Orleans Public Library for research purposes, can someone please > send me a copy of my great grandfather's orbituary notice. He is John J. Frank (58) who died > September13, 1910 noted as an obituary citation in the Daily Picayune,September 14, 1910, > page 6, column 4 and same paper on September 18,1910, page 6, column 2, section 2. I live a > great distance away and unable to travel so far. I would be forever grateful. Kirk Frank, email > address is kirfran@aol.com (New Orleans Public Library,Louisiana Biography and Obituary > Index, 219 Loyola Street, NewOrleans, >

If anyone is headed to the New Orleans Public Library for research purposes, can someone please send me a copy of my great grandfather's orbituary notice. He is John J. Frank (58) who died September13, 1910 noted as an obituary citation in the Daily Picayune,September 14, 1910, page 6, column 4 and same paper on September 18,1910, page 6, column 2, section 2. I live a great distance away and unable to travel so far. I would be forever grateful. Kirk Frank, email address is kirfran@aol.com (New Orleans Public Library,Louisiana Biography and Obituary Index, 219 Loyola Street, NewOrleans,

After 10 years of waiting I was finally able to break through my family brick wall with the 1940 census. I have found two additional generations but I need birth/death/marriage records from Avoyelles parish. If anyone can help point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated. Shane Voelker

Hi everyone Remind me how a new person can join our group Joan

Hello everyone, Nikki in Australia is coming to New Orleans. She wrote to me about an exchange we had in 2008, which I did not remember. Could everyone read it over, and see if you might help with her question about a burial place? Thanks, Joan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Sister Monica Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 19:37:50 +1000 From: Nikki Sprong <nikki.sprong@ozemail.com.au> To: Joan Schaefer <joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net> Sure! The email I am referring to I found on the web. The address below is correct. Apologies I have retread the email. You found sister Monica. I amsorry to bother you. I will check with mimi. I am referring to the email at the link below http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LAORLEAN/2008-03/1207007555 Sent from my iPad On 07/07/2012, at 10:35 AM, Joan Schaefer <joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Dear Nikki, > I received your message. I am part of LAORLEAN group, but do not remember a previous conversation on this topic. Can you remind me of an earlier question? Do you know that the group email id is laorlean@rootsweb.com? Perhaps you want to present the question to them? > If it is really me you need, please give me a reminder. > Thanks, > Joan Schaefer > Milwaukee WI > > On 7/6/2012 5:47 PM, Nikki Sprong wrote: >> Joan >> >> Hi I hope this finds you well. >> >> I know this is going to be really strange but I was hoping you could provide more information on Sister Monica particularly where she is buries? >> >> No I am not a relative. >> >> Some 50 years ago my parents were in New Orleans wondering through the cemeteries. I am unclear which cometary they were in, either St. Louis or St. Roch, but they happened upon a grave for Sister Monica. They then decided ..."great name, let's name our next one Monica." and they did. >> >> I now live in Australia and will soon be visiting New Orleans. I thought I would try to find Sister Monica's grave as she is my name sake. >> >> I am not sure if your Sister Monica is mySister Monica but I figured it might be worth a try. >> >> Regards >> >> Monica Sprong (aka Nikki) >> >> Sent from my iPad > >

Norm. I've been searching for a marriage certicate for my great-grandfather, Hermann Edward/Edouard Lehmann. A cousin found one for his first wife, Euranie Marchand in 1833, but he evidently divorced her and married a second wife....my line....Denise Louise Develle.by about 1848 when there are records of the birth of their children. A cousin checked the notorial arcives without any luck and also checked for a Justice of the Peace record, and I have not found anything on the Orleans Parish website of marriages. Both wives were French and Catholic, and I know that divorce was not acceptable in those days. Euranie's death notice in the newspaper said she was the wife of H. E. Lehmann. He is buried in the Develle tomb at St. Louis 3 cemetery, so I know they must have attended that church. Could you give me a clue as to where else I could look? Thanks for any incite. Helen Smith in Waco, Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question > Jan, > > While cleaning up some emails, I reviewed your messages > regarding this marriage. > > An interesting aspect of the Orleans Parish marriage records > is that the Justice of the Peace marriage license system overlapped for a time (apparently > about ten years) with the Board of Health system. This overlap started in 1870. > You received the JP license, but since this marriage took place in 1870, there > is a chance it is ALSO in the Board of Health system. I have a couple of > marriages that are included in BOTH systems. > > The Louisiana Division of the NOPL describes these systems: > http://nutrias.org/~nopl/guides/genguide/marriagerecords.htm > > It appears from one of your other messages that the marriage > was that of a Christopher Dillon. You have the JP license, but the Orleans Parish > marriage index (available on Ancestry.com) includes this: > Name: Christopher > Dillon > Birth Date: abt > 1828 > Age: 42 > Spouse: Ann Riley > Spouse Age: 22 > Marriage Date: 22 > Dec 1870 > Is this the right couple? > > If it is, you can follow the guidance of the Louisiana > Division to get the Board of Health register information. Once you have that, > you can get the needed reference numbers and order the “return.” As noted, > these are always more interesting, and most people don’t order them. > > The register looks like this. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004b_wegener-klein.jpg > > From it, you get a book and folio number. With that, you can > get the “return,” which has two sides, the original license: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004c_wegener-klein.jpg > and on the other side, the officiant’s return, with all of > the signatures: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004d_wegener-klein.jpg > > A record of the marriage was mailed to the parties and > sometimes these have survived. They looked like this: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004a_wegener-klein.jpg > > If the marriage above is yours, you should be able to get > these documents. > > Norm > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jan Delgehausen <msdelge@cox.net> > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:37 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question > > Recently, I ordered an Orleans Parish Marriage from the Justice of the Peace Index, dated 22 Nov 1870, VEC 678; pg. 355 It contained the information I was seeking. However, at the bottom of the document was a paragraph I have never seen before on any other Justice of the Peace marriage record.... and I have a few. It read: > > “The State of Louisiana, Parish of Orleans----City of new Orleans. License is hereby granted to the Rev’d (cannot read his name—may be P. M. Gordinn?) or any other person authorized by law to join in the Bonds of Matrimony (groom’s name) and (bride’s name) on complying with the legal Formalities; and he is required by law to return to this Court within thirty days a Certificate of the Celebration of Marriage hereby authorized, signed by himself, by the parties and three witnesses.” > > If there is a certificate with this information, where would I find it? > > I invite comments. > > Thanks to each of you, for your generous lookups, information and ideas, and discussions of all things New Orleans. > > Jan Delgehausen > Baton Rouge, Louisiana > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Norm, Thank you so much for your reply. The Justice of the Peace records are frustrating and I always hope for more. I did read the part about the Board of Health System, but didn't know where to go next. Actually Christopher Dillon is the father of Annie C.Dillon, who married William Graves Wilkinson the same year. It was Christopher Dillon's second marriage. His first wife, Hannah C. Schroeder died years before his second marriage. My record is for Annie C. Dillon who married William G. Wilkinson 22 Nov 1870, Justice of the Peace, Orleans Parish VEC 678 Page 355. Anna , Hannah, Annie C. Dillon Wilkinson died in Donaldsonville, LA 2 Sept 1880. Let me read your information and maybe I'll have a better understanding of the system. Again, a sincere thank you. You are so helpful to those of us with New Orleans ancestors and generously share your knowledge. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Norm Hellmers Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:21 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question Jan, While cleaning up some emails, I reviewed your messages regarding this marriage. An interesting aspect of the Orleans Parish marriage records is that the Justice of the Peace marriage license system overlapped for a time (apparently about ten years) with the Board of Health system. This overlap started in 1870. You received the JP license, but since this marriage took place in 1870, there is a chance it is ALSO in the Board of Health system. I have a couple of marriages that are included in BOTH systems. The Louisiana Division of the NOPL describes these systems: http://nutrias.org/~nopl/guides/genguide/marriagerecords.htm It appears from one of your other messages that the marriage was that of a Christopher Dillon. You have the JP license, but the Orleans Parish marriage index (available on Ancestry.com) includes this: Name: Christopher Dillon Birth Date: abt 1828 Age: 42 Spouse: Ann Riley Spouse Age: 22 Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1870 Is this the right couple? If it is, you can follow the guidance of the Louisiana Division to get the Board of Health register information. Once you have that, you can get the needed reference numbers and order the “return.” As noted, these are always more interesting, and most people don’t order them. The register looks like this. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004b_wegener-klein.jpg >From it, you get a book and folio number. With that, you can get the “return,” which has two sides, the original license: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004c_wegener-klein.jpg and on the other side, the officiant’s return, with all of the signatures: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004d_wegener-klein.jpg A record of the marriage was mailed to the parties and sometimes these have survived. They looked like this: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004a_wegener-klein.jpg If the marriage above is yours, you should be able to get these documents. Norm ________________________________ From: Jan Delgehausen <msdelge@cox.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question Recently, I ordered an Orleans Parish Marriage from the Justice of the Peace Index, dated 22 Nov 1870, VEC 678; pg. 355 It contained the information I was seeking. However, at the bottom of the document was a paragraph I have never seen before on any other Justice of the Peace marriage record.... and I have a few. It read: “The State of Louisiana, Parish of Orleans----City of new Orleans. License is hereby granted to the Rev’d (cannot read his name—may be P. M. Gordinn?) or any other person authorized by law to join in the Bonds of Matrimony (groom’s name) and (bride’s name) on complying with the legal Formalities; and he is required by law to return to this Court within thirty days a Certificate of the Celebration of Marriage hereby authorized, signed by himself, by the parties and three witnesses.” If there is a certificate with this information, where would I find it? I invite comments. Thanks to each of you, for your generous lookups, information and ideas, and discussions of all things New Orleans. Jan Delgehausen Baton Rouge, Louisiana ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan,   While cleaning up some emails, I reviewed your messages regarding this marriage.   An interesting aspect of the Orleans Parish marriage records is that the Justice of the Peace marriage license system overlapped for a time (apparently about ten years) with the Board of Health system. This overlap started in 1870. You received the JP license, but since this marriage took place in 1870, there is a chance it is ALSO in the Board of Health system. I have a couple of marriages that are included in BOTH systems.   The Louisiana Division of the NOPL describes these systems: http://nutrias.org/~nopl/guides/genguide/marriagerecords.htm   It appears from one of your other messages that the marriage was that of a Christopher Dillon. You have the JP license, but the Orleans Parish marriage index (available on Ancestry.com) includes this:      Name: Christopher Dillon      Birth Date: abt 1828      Age: 42      Spouse: Ann Riley      Spouse Age: 22      Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1870 Is this the right couple?   If it is, you can follow the guidance of the Louisiana Division to get the Board of Health register information. Once you have that, you can get the needed reference numbers and order the “return.” As noted, these are always more interesting, and most people don’t order them.   The register looks like this. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004b_wegener-klein.jpg   From it, you get a book and folio number. With that, you can get the “return,” which has two sides, the original license: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004c_wegener-klein.jpg and on the other side, the officiant’s return, with all of the signatures: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004d_wegener-klein.jpg   A record of the marriage was mailed to the parties and sometimes these have survived. They looked like this: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wegener/wegener_records/cvm/wcvm0004a_wegener-klein.jpg   If the marriage above is yours, you should be able to get these documents.   Norm   ________________________________ From: Jan Delgehausen <msdelge@cox.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Second Justice of the Peace question Recently, I ordered an Orleans Parish Marriage from the Justice of the Peace Index, dated 22 Nov 1870, VEC 678; pg. 355  It contained the information I was seeking.  However, at the bottom of the document was a paragraph I have never seen before on any other Justice of the Peace marriage record.... and I have a few.  It read: “The State of Louisiana, Parish of Orleans----City of new Orleans.  License is hereby granted to the Rev’d (cannot read his name—may be P. M. Gordinn?) or any other person authorized by law to join in the Bonds of Matrimony (groom’s name) and (bride’s name) on complying with the legal Formalities; and he is required by law to return to this Court within thirty days a Certificate of the Celebration of Marriage hereby authorized, signed by himself, by the parties and three witnesses.”  If there is a certificate with this information, where would I find it?  I invite comments. Thanks to each of you, for your generous lookups, information and ideas, and discussions of all things New Orleans.    Jan Delgehausen Baton Rouge, Louisiana                           

Johan-georg Wolfrum b. 17 Feb 1842, his mother Anna Chath b. abt 1808, sister, Johanne Chath b. abt 1830 and his brother Johannikel b abt 1839 came to New Orleans from Breman Germany aboard the ship Louisiana landing 21 Oct 1852. The ship log states this family is from Bavaria. My curiosity is what happened to this family while they were in New Orleans. I can't seem to document their time there. I find a record of two Wolfrum's that could be mine listed in the source The Epidemic Summer on the Orleans Parish site. Wolffr_m, Nicholas, 14 year old from Germany, died of fever 16 July 1853 and is buried in Lafayette Cemetery. Walfron, Catherin, 25 years old from Germany died of fever 18 July 1853. Buried in Charity Hospital Cemetery. I have checked Charity Hospital records through LDS for the years of 1850-1859 and these two were not listed. There are two versions of family members telling what happened to all the family except George who died in 1918. First version is that ALL except George died of the fever and left him orphan. Second version is that mother and brother died and left the sister and George. The sister married a wealthy man and wanted to send George to learn medicine. George became a farmer. In 1860 George is in Louisville, Jefferson Ky. Enlisted in 1st Ky Cavalry, Conf. for the duration of the war. Then I lose him until 1878 when he shows up in Texas and there he stays until his death. Any help appreicated. Pat Freeman Texas

To one and all. Believe there is a new scam circulating around these boards, promising everything to everybody. The message appeared on the two boards that I receive notes on in Missouri and Illinois, the following note I sent out to both boards. Haven't seen it referenced in the LA board, yet, 1. Complete Missouri Ancestry Package now available! Find your Ancestors! (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) This book smacks at a similar Scam that appeared several years ago promising that it would include the names and addresses of all other persons researching your family.This exact same message appeared on the Clinton Co., Illinois Board yesterday.Buyer beware.Bill Buchholz ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ff05484b79bb54842ac0st51duc

Hi all, I just thought I would pass this along in case you didn't know. Ancestry.ca is offering some selected Canadian records free thru July 2 for Canada Day. You have to sign up for a free account or you can access thru an existing U.S. account. It doesn't include ALL Canadian records but it does include the Drouin collection. I always take advantage when they offer this. Happy researching, Shelia KRAEMER SALOMONE

This group is the best. I wrote to Peggy Rooney for some information on a surname and it is unbelievable what she found and sent to me. She went far beyond what I expected and I cannot thank her enough. I am so lucky to pass on the information she sent to a cousin who found in St. Louis cemetery #1 and #3 his missing ancestors. MERLE IN TEXAS

The law against marrying an in-law was in effect in the early colonies (now United States), too.  It was part of The Act to Prevent Incestuous Marriages, Assembly of Massachusetts, 1695, thanks to Puritan leaders of the day.  A man wasn't allowed to marry his widowed sister-in-law.  The law was eventually changed in 1785. Other colonies passed laws after 1695, to include prohibiting marriage of first cousins, too. These laws devastated some families, and some moved to colonies where these marriages were legal. Alexa --- On Mon, 6/25/12, Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer <voiceofshe@hotmail.com> wrote: ...most interesting is that the heroine was unable to marry her brother-in-law after the death of her husband who died shortly after WWI ended.  The reason being it was illegal in England at the time as the brother in law told her after she had fallen in love with him.  I suspect, though Carolyn don't shame me for publishing this without my sources in place) that this law was the result of Henry VIII's trying to get an annulment from Catherine (his brother's widow) and the Pope refusing.  So when the Church of England was politicized, marrying your brother or sister in law was prohibited under the law as incest (so Henry could marry someone else and assure his heirs would ascend the throne). 

Linda, Putting the words out there, speaking them aloud or posting online, have always been helpful to me, too.  Many times, I've posted something online, and almost immediately after posting, within an hour or two, the answer comes to me.  I find what I need.  Then I go back and post my findings in case anyone else is looking for the same thing. I'm so glad you found the solution to your problem in such a definitive way. Alexa --- On Mon, 6/25/12, Linda Stokesbury Brennan <linda@stokesbury.org> wrote: I've found that I have to put into words what it is I need -- and  amazingly, occasionally I find what I'm looking for. My most wonderful example came when I was needing to find evidence  that a family with a different spelling of the surname was actually  part of my family. Many of my co-researchers disagreed, and said they  thought it was too different to be the same family. At that point, I  thought to myself, "I need to find a rosetta stone for this." It's hard to believe but within a couple of weeks, a new d-base was  put online by the Library of Virginia--a listing of all the early  chancery suits in Shenandoah County, VA. To my astonishment, I found a case which involved my ancestor, and it  contained papers that spelled the surname in the exact two spellings I  was trying to prove were the same family. It used the same two  spellings to refer to my own ancestor. How cool is that? I really could never have imagined such a wonderful  solution. I felt like I had won the lottery! So, from then on, I make it a point to define specifically what it is  I need to obtain in my family history search. Kind Regards, Linda

Upside down. Probably that's why we're supposed to bury a statue of St. Joseph in our lawn if we're trying to sell our house?  Wake him up and so he can work for us? Thanks for posting.  I always wondered why putting him upside down was important. Alexa Genealogy research since 1974 Ancestral hauntings - I ain't afraid-a no ghosts... --- On Tue, 6/26/12, Carolyn Long <carolynlong@earthlink.net> wrote: Folklore says that if you turn the picture or image of the saint upside down it will wake him up and get his attention so that he'll "work" for you. Same would probably hold true if you turned your ancestors' pictures upside down on your desk.

Hey, thanks.  I wasn't using Mocavo, never have, but I did find someone listed as "lab" in a city directory and was wondering what it meant.  "Laborer" seems very likely. Alexa Genealogy research since 1974 Ancestral hauntings - I ain't afraid-a no ghosts...