Jan, If I can help, let me know. Other Jan in Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Jan Dean Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:41 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] LAORLEAN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 164 I agree with Jan S. I'm happy to share with those I know, but not with the whole world. As to Ancestry's claim that my files can be "private", I don't believe it. I think they'll figure out a way to access them. OK, I'm paranoid, but I don't think Ancestry is above that. And Jan, I'll let you know how it goes when I change over. Because I'm not that computer savvy, I'm starting to get cold feet. Jan in N.O. On 8/19/2012 2:01 PM, laorlean-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:54:22 -0400 > From: "Jan B Strickland" <jans884@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > > Kathy, > > I don't mind sharing, but I do mind that Ancestry automatically has rights > to all my info and sources to sell to others. If what I put on Ancestry > was > then free to all, it would be fine, as it was free to me. But lots of my > sources, say: > Copyright. All rights reserved > or > "not for resale" > and I know for a fact that Ancestry has in it's info, that whatever you > post > on your tree becomes the property of Ancestry, including pictures. For > example: > "Some User Provided Content can be submitted to Ancestry and Ancestry will > scan, image and/or create an index from the content you submit. In this > situation, you grant Ancestry a license to the User Provided Content as > described above and Ancestry will own the digital version of documents > created by Ancestry as well as any indexed information that Ancestry > creates." > > That is why I hesitate. I have lots of records from the churches that it > took some digging to find. Will gladly share, for free, if someone asks, > but do not want Ancestry selling (with their yrly subscriptions) for a > profit. > > For back up, I use Carbonite which backs up my entire computer on a daily > basis. I have had crashes and when I got back up and running, I just go > to > Carbonite, indicate full restore, and let it do it's thing. When I come > back, my computer is just like it was before the crash. Carbonite has > saved > me at least 2 times and I have been running it at 2AM each night for over > 4 > yrs now. I might not always be in a position to afford Ancestry, but > Carbonite is cheap enough to always have. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy Cochran > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:34 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > > Thank you Sheila! You have just stated (ONE OF) the BEST BENEFIT(s) of > Ancestry - to me - the automatic backup of all the work that I (we) > have > done! I already lost a 2 Terrabyte external hard drive last fall - this > stuff HAPPENS! - having years of work uploaded to Ancestry is a SAVING > GRACE! And I don't care about having my tree be "private." I have met > more > cousins this way than I ever imagined! > > Thank you again, > > Kathy Cochran > San Andreas, California > > -----Original Message----- > From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Shelia Salomone > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:43 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > > I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload > to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of > all > data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a > remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage > device. > > You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I > have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them > permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the > two > databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to > Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get > the > same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If > you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I > personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how > certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through > Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of > the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons > as > well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me > more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are > more > records available to me than a free membership. > > Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There > are > features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it > does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved > finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. > But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various > GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between > different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take > advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to > maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. > > I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to > help > you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! > Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! > > Shelia > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathleen, Try this website. I have a friend that uses it and she says it's great and free! http://tribalpages.com/ Also I think in Rootsweb you can upload a tree also. Mariela -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Wieland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:07 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs FTM Thanks to all who contributed to this discussion. It is something I continue to wrestle with. Sheila, you have made a case that appeals to me very much. I have a personal subscription to Ancestry, and I really appreciate being able to search Ancestry through my personal FTM tree. (I have the 2006 edition, which I believe was the first year this option was available.) I'm still dithering over whether to upgrade my version of FTM. I haven't dismissed the option of buying a used copy of an older edition - 2009-2011. When the 2012 edition was being reviewed, I remember people saying that the newer program used a lot more memory. Can anyone comment on that(with regard to 2012, or any program newer than 2006)? I never have the latest system at home - the 2 computers I have now are "hand-me-ups" from my daughter. So I tend to worry about overtaxing them. I would hate to have my FTW files "upgraded" by the newer edition unless I feel sure that I will be able to make it work for me. Unless they have changed, once the files upgrade, the older program can't open them. A second question is this right of Ancestry to appropriate our information. Sheila, maybe you can answer this. If your online information is restricted to people you approve, is Ancestry able to make use of it? Hosting lots of personal trees, and using this is a selling point for their service is ONE thing. I would consider that a fair trade. BUT if they are actually data-mining the info and repackaging it, that would be quite different. Thirdly, does a person have to have an Ancestry subscription to see your info? I have a number of cousins (people I actually grew up with, as opposed to the wonderful "research cousins" I have discovered online) who have an interest in our family history. But only a few of them do any actual research on their own. I would love to find a place to host the two sides of my tree, so I can easily share my discoveries with these cousins. They are unlikely to save my irregular emails on the subject; but if I could just give them a link to follow, I think some of them would be more likely to explore the tree, and share it with other relatives. I think of it as a conversation starter. Whenever I send out a new memo, I always hear back about stories or comments they can recall from the Dear Departed generations. Or someone will say, "I have a copy of that marriage certificate," or "My mother left me some photos of him," etc. Any & all feedback or advice would be most welcome. Kathleen, (homesick) in Connecticut, by way of New Orleans ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelia Salomone <salomos@comcast.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 03:37:04 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy Hi Kathy, You only have to have that happen once and you learn from your mistakes. But, WOW what a price you pay! Years and years of hard work. That has happened to me but in a different way. We had a flood that destroyed everything in our house (this was before I had much on the computer.) I literally gave up on my genealogy for 10 years because I was so devastated and I just didn't have all that information in my head! And, I DO want to share my tree because I love to help and share information with everyone. But, my cousin is very old fashioned and she is helping me with the tree. She does not like to share with anyone other than family. I respect her wishes and keep it private. So, I go and look for all those cousins like you were mentioning. THAT IS THE VERY BEST THING ABOUT ANCESTRY!. I have now reached 110 cousins found via Ancestry and Facebook. I just created a new Family Group page where I invited all of them to have a family reunion via computer until we can make the real thing happen. It is a place that we can reacquaint ourselves with the ones we know and get to know the ones we don't know. And, it is a place that we can share stories and old photos of our ancestors and our immediate family. It has been very successful and now 110 people will have their family a little closer than they would have been and we all benefit! This has been very rewarding and is probably the best thing that has come out of my hobby! I wanted to share my story since you mentioned it, Kathy. Maybe some of you might want to do the same thing. It doesn't have to be large because mine just started out with the first cousins and kept growing as I found more. Now we have 4 generations! Age 1 year to 82 years old! Enough sharing of my story but I really wanted to share it with this group! Thank you for listening all. Happy Researching everyone, Shelia -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:34 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy Thank you Sheila! You have just stated (ONE OF) the BEST BENEFIT(s) of Ancestry - to me - the automatic backup of all the work that I (we) have done! I already lost a 2 Terrabyte external hard drive last fall - this stuff HAPPENS! - having years of work uploaded to Ancestry is a SAVING GRACE! And I don't care about having my tree be "private." I have met more cousins this way than I ever imagined! Thank you again, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:43 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage device. You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more records available to me than a free membership. Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! Shelia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathleen, I also usually use a computer until everyone is saying "Good grief is that old thing still working" and I found that each new upgrade was a bigger and bigger RAM hog. I especially noticed the problem with my old computer that only had 4g of RAM. Running 2011, it seem to shut down a couple of times a week and I would have to 'compact' to get rid of errors. My husband bought me a new Gateway i5 with 1TB hard drive and 8g of RAM and now it runs like a flash of lightning. My old computer was almost 8 yrs old and time to be retired, or at least reformatted and not run as many RAM hog programs, like FTM and Windows 7. Just my experiences. Jan S - Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Wieland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:07 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs FTM Thanks to all who contributed to this discussion. It is something I continue to wrestle with. Sheila, you have made a case that appeals to me very much. I have a personal subscription to Ancestry, and I really appreciate being able to search Ancestry through my personal FTM tree. (I have the 2006 edition, which I believe was the first year this option was available.) I'm still dithering over whether to upgrade my version of FTM. I haven't dismissed the option of buying a used copy of an older edition - 2009-2011. When the 2012 edition was being reviewed, I remember people saying that the newer program used a lot more memory. Can anyone comment on that(with regard to 2012, or any program newer than 2006)? I never have the latest system at home - the 2 computers I have now are "hand-me-ups" from my daughter. So I tend to worry about overtaxing them. I would hate to have my FTW files "upgraded" by the newer edition unless I feel sure that I will be able to make it work for me. Unless they have changed, once the files upgrade, the older program can't open them. A second question is this right of Ancestry to appropriate our information. Sheila, maybe you can answer this. If your online information is restricted to people you approve, is Ancestry able to make use of it? Hosting lots of personal trees, and using this is a selling point for their service is ONE thing. I would consider that a fair trade. BUT if they are actually data-mining the info and repackaging it, that would be quite different. Thirdly, does a person have to have an Ancestry subscription to see your info? I have a number of cousins (people I actually grew up with, as opposed to the wonderful "research cousins" I have discovered online) who have an interest in our family history. But only a few of them do any actual research on their own. I would love to find a place to host the two sides of my tree, so I can easily share my discoveries with these cousins. They are unlikely to save my irregular emails on the subject; but if I could just give them a link to follow, I think some of them would be more likely to explore the tree, and share it with other relatives. I think of it as a conversation starter. Whenever I send out a new memo, I always hear back about stories or comments they can recall from the Dear Departed generations. Or someone will say, "I have a copy of that marriage certificate," or "My mother left me some photos of him," etc. Any & all feedback or advice would be most welcome. Kathleen, (homesick) in Connecticut, by way of New Orleans ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelia Salomone <salomos@comcast.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 03:37:04 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy Hi Kathy, You only have to have that happen once and you learn from your mistakes. But, WOW what a price you pay! Years and years of hard work. That has happened to me but in a different way. We had a flood that destroyed everything in our house (this was before I had much on the computer.) I literally gave up on my genealogy for 10 years because I was so devastated and I just didn't have all that information in my head! And, I DO want to share my tree because I love to help and share information with everyone. But, my cousin is very old fashioned and she is helping me with the tree. She does not like to share with anyone other than family. I respect her wishes and keep it private. So, I go and look for all those cousins like you were mentioning. THAT IS THE VERY BEST THING ABOUT ANCESTRY!. I have now reached 110 cousins found via Ancestry and Facebook. I just created a new Family Group page where I invited all of them to have a family reunion via computer until we can make the real thing happen. It is a place that we can reacquaint ourselves with the ones we know and get to know the ones we don't know. And, it is a place that we can share stories and old photos of our ancestors and our immediate family. It has been very successful and now 110 people will have their family a little closer than they would have been and we all benefit! This has been very rewarding and is probably the best thing that has come out of my hobby! I wanted to share my story since you mentioned it, Kathy. Maybe some of you might want to do the same thing. It doesn't have to be large because mine just started out with the first cousins and kept growing as I found more. Now we have 4 generations! Age 1 year to 82 years old! Enough sharing of my story but I really wanted to share it with this group! Thank you for listening all. Happy Researching everyone, Shelia -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:34 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy Thank you Sheila! You have just stated (ONE OF) the BEST BENEFIT(s) of Ancestry - to me - the automatic backup of all the work that I (we) have done! I already lost a 2 Terrabyte external hard drive last fall - this stuff HAPPENS! - having years of work uploaded to Ancestry is a SAVING GRACE! And I don't care about having my tree be "private." I have met more cousins this way than I ever imagined! Thank you again, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:43 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage device. You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more records available to me than a free membership. Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! Shelia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know about Legacy and FTM, but if you change over with a GEDCOM, it will not transfer photos or documents so be careful not to delete anything until you are sure you have everything saved. Some programs accept files from other programs so make sure you read all the instructions. BTW, I have used FTM for years and now use FTM12. I have over 19,600 people, photos and documents and no problems. Mariela Fernandez www.rojasspencer.com www.cubangenclub.org -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan B Strickland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:15 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs. FTM Jan, Let me know how it goes changing over, that is probably what I will go to next. Jan S - Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Jan Dean Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:05 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs. FTM I'd been considering FTM2012 (I use the 2006 version), but after learning about Ancestry accessing my files, I'm going to try Legacy. I've enjoyed quite a few of the free Legacy seminars on various aspects of genealogy, so it seems fair to reciprocate and use their program. Hope I can manage the switch. Thanks to all of you for recommending Legacy. Jan in N.O. in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Jan S. I'm happy to share with those I know, but not with the whole world. As to Ancestry's claim that my files can be "private", I don't believe it. I think they'll figure out a way to access them. OK, I'm paranoid, but I don't think Ancestry is above that. And Jan, I'll let you know how it goes when I change over. Because I'm not that computer savvy, I'm starting to get cold feet. Jan in N.O. On 8/19/2012 2:01 PM, laorlean-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:54:22 -0400 > From: "Jan B Strickland" <jans884@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > > Kathy, > > I don't mind sharing, but I do mind that Ancestry automatically has rights > to all my info and sources to sell to others. If what I put on Ancestry was > then free to all, it would be fine, as it was free to me. But lots of my > sources, say: > Copyright. All rights reserved > or > "not for resale" > and I know for a fact that Ancestry has in it's info, that whatever you post > on your tree becomes the property of Ancestry, including pictures. For > example: > "Some User Provided Content can be submitted to Ancestry and Ancestry will > scan, image and/or create an index from the content you submit. In this > situation, you grant Ancestry a license to the User Provided Content as > described above and Ancestry will own the digital version of documents > created by Ancestry as well as any indexed information that Ancestry > creates." > > That is why I hesitate. I have lots of records from the churches that it > took some digging to find. Will gladly share, for free, if someone asks, > but do not want Ancestry selling (with their yrly subscriptions) for a > profit. > > For back up, I use Carbonite which backs up my entire computer on a daily > basis. I have had crashes and when I got back up and running, I just go to > Carbonite, indicate full restore, and let it do it's thing. When I come > back, my computer is just like it was before the crash. Carbonite has saved > me at least 2 times and I have been running it at 2AM each night for over 4 > yrs now. I might not always be in a position to afford Ancestry, but > Carbonite is cheap enough to always have. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy Cochran > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:34 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > > Thank you Sheila! You have just stated (ONE OF) the BEST BENEFIT(s) of > Ancestry - to me - the automatic backup of all the work that I (we) have > done! I already lost a 2 Terrabyte external hard drive last fall - this > stuff HAPPENS! - having years of work uploaded to Ancestry is a SAVING > GRACE! And I don't care about having my tree be "private." I have met more > cousins this way than I ever imagined! > > Thank you again, > > Kathy Cochran > San Andreas, California > > -----Original Message----- > From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Shelia Salomone > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:43 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > > I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload > to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all > data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a > remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage > device. > > You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I > have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them > permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two > databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to > Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the > same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If > you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I > personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how > certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through > Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of > the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as > well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me > more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more > records available to me than a free membership. > > Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are > features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it > does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved > finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. > But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various > GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between > different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take > advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to > maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. > > I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help > you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! > Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! > > Shelia > >

Jan, Let me know how it goes changing over, that is probably what I will go to next. Jan S - Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Jan Dean Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:05 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs. FTM I'd been considering FTM2012 (I use the 2006 version), but after learning about Ancestry accessing my files, I'm going to try Legacy. I've enjoyed quite a few of the free Legacy seminars on various aspects of genealogy, so it seems fair to reciprocate and use their program. Hope I can manage the switch. Thanks to all of you for recommending Legacy. Jan in N.O. in the subject and the body of the message

I use Family Tree Maker. I used PAF many years ago. There was an adjunct program to it that would include your notes in the family tree. But at some point when PAF upgraded, that adjunct program stopped working and it was never upgraded. That got me to looking around for another program. One of the essential features for a program for me is the reports it will do. I have many cousins who could care less about Ancestry. But they do want family trees. And I want to be able to specify what information I put in my trees. Family Tree Maker fit that bill for me better than any other program I looked at. They have dropped one feature that I loved...in a marriage, you used to be able to specify the names of the spouse's parents. I really like that feature and so wish they would put it back in. So one of my utmost requirements for any program is what reports they allow me to do. The other issue for me is my control of my data. In early years of electronic family trees, I watched as people uploaded their trees to a site then the site sold CD's with the info. there was no way to update that info and the people who accessed it had no way to contact the person who did the research. I knew I did not want someone selling the info I had worked so hard to collect. So I thought long and hard about where I wanted to post my data. I am Jewish and decided to put my information on JewishGen because I kept control of it. If I wanted to take it off I could. When I made corrections and additions, I could submit them and they would be updated. And people had to register with JewishGen to see it and to contact me. I liked that because it meant that no one could just go fishing for info and use it for whatever purpose without at least going through the hurdle of registering. I believe that JewishGen info is now accessible through Ancestry. I don't know how that affects these things. I know that I looked once at Legacy and liked many of its features, but for some reason decided to stay with FTM. Are you saying that now you have no choice, that with the 2012 version of FTM, you cannot stop the program from sharing your info with Ancestry? If that is the case it is indeed disturbing to me. And I definitely will begin looking for another program to work with. I feel very strongly that my data belongs to me. If I want to share it, that is my prerogative. AND one thing that always concerns me about this is errors. One person can make a wrong assumption and share their info with 3 other people, all of whom assume that the information shared is correct. Some people are just much more scrupulous researchers than others. I would hate to see my data corrupted by someone who does not know how I ascertained the correctness of what I record. Ellen Barnett Cleary San Francisco CA

I'd been considering FTM2012 (I use the 2006 version), but after learning about Ancestry accessing my files, I'm going to try Legacy. I've enjoyed quite a few of the free Legacy seminars on various aspects of genealogy, so it seems fair to reciprocate and use their program. Hope I can manage the switch. Thanks to all of you for recommending Legacy. Jan in N.O. On 8/18/2012 8:43 PM, laorlean-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:55:17 -0500 > From: "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > To: "laorleans" <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <8B96E783B5A84C8EB01FF1B5A450F365@Joanscomputer> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi, > > I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. > > Thanks everyone. > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:45:52 -0500 > From: Peggy <rooneytoon29@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > To: "laorlean@rootsweb.com" <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C69C1AD8-D7CE-4012-93C0-2EEC212355B8@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have both. You CAN download from FTM and Legacy is a pretty awesome program. I have both it & FTM on my PC but use my Mac program mainly. FTM is my second choice but only because I was so used to it (had it since 2.0). If you're open to something new, Legacy is very good. > > New Orleans Proud > > On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. >> >> Thanks everyone. >> Joan Grego >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:42:35 -0700 > From: "Shelia Salomone" <salomos@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002a01cd7dab$e9b36460$bd1a2d20$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload > to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all > data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a > remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage > device. > > You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I > have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them > permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two > databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to > Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the > same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If > you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I > personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how > certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through > Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of > the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as > well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me > more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more > records available to me than a free membership. > > Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are > features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it > does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved > finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. > But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various > GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between > different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take > advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to > maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. > > I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help > you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! > Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! > > Shelia > > -----Original Message----- > From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Peggy > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:46 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy > > I have both. You CAN download from FTM and Legacy is a pretty awesome > program. I have both it & FTM on my PC but use my Mac program mainly. FTM > is my second choice but only because I was so used to it (had it since 2.0). > If you're open to something new, Legacy is very good. > > New Orleans Proud > > On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from > FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information > about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the > next few days. >> Thanks everyone. >> Joan Grego >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LAORLEAN list administrator, send an email to > LAORLEAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LAORLEAN mailing list, send an email to LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LAORLEAN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 162 > **************************************** >

Mariela, That is one answer that I really appreciate. I guess with my 2000 people I don't have to worry about running out of space with FTM 2011 for a LONG LONG time! Thanks! (However, I am still intrigued with the idea of Legacy!) Kathy Cochran -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mariela Fernandez Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:48 AM To: 'Jan B Strickland'; laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs. FTM I don't know about Legacy and FTM, but if you change over with a GEDCOM, it will not transfer photos or documents so be careful not to delete anything until you are sure you have everything saved. Some programs accept files from other programs so make sure you read all the instructions. BTW, I have used FTM for years and now use FTM12. I have over 19,600 people, photos and documents and no problems. Mariela Fernandez www.rojasspencer.com www.cubangenclub.org -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan B Strickland Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:15 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs. FTM Jan, Let me know how it goes changing over, that is probably what I will go to next. Jan S - Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Jan Dean Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:05 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] Legacy vs. FTM I'd been considering FTM2012 (I use the 2006 version), but after learning about Ancestry accessing my files, I'm going to try Legacy. I've enjoyed quite a few of the free Legacy seminars on various aspects of genealogy, so it seems fair to reciprocate and use their program. Hope I can manage the switch. Thanks to all of you for recommending Legacy. Jan in N.O. in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12

Kathy, I don't mind sharing, but I do mind that Ancestry automatically has rights to all my info and sources to sell to others. If what I put on Ancestry was then free to all, it would be fine, as it was free to me. But lots of my sources, say: Copyright. All rights reserved or "not for resale" and I know for a fact that Ancestry has in it's info, that whatever you post on your tree becomes the property of Ancestry, including pictures. For example: "Some User Provided Content can be submitted to Ancestry and Ancestry will scan, image and/or create an index from the content you submit. In this situation, you grant Ancestry a license to the User Provided Content as described above and Ancestry will own the digital version of documents created by Ancestry as well as any indexed information that Ancestry creates." That is why I hesitate. I have lots of records from the churches that it took some digging to find. Will gladly share, for free, if someone asks, but do not want Ancestry selling (with their yrly subscriptions) for a profit. For back up, I use Carbonite which backs up my entire computer on a daily basis. I have had crashes and when I got back up and running, I just go to Carbonite, indicate full restore, and let it do it's thing. When I come back, my computer is just like it was before the crash. Carbonite has saved me at least 2 times and I have been running it at 2AM each night for over 4 yrs now. I might not always be in a position to afford Ancestry, but Carbonite is cheap enough to always have. Jan S - Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Cochran Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:34 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy Thank you Sheila! You have just stated (ONE OF) the BEST BENEFIT(s) of Ancestry - to me - the automatic backup of all the work that I (we) have done! I already lost a 2 Terrabyte external hard drive last fall - this stuff HAPPENS! - having years of work uploaded to Ancestry is a SAVING GRACE! And I don't care about having my tree be "private." I have met more cousins this way than I ever imagined! Thank you again, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shelia Salomone Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:43 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage device. You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more records available to me than a free membership. Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! Shelia -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peggy Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:46 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have both. You CAN download from FTM and Legacy is a pretty awesome program. I have both it & FTM on my PC but use my Mac program mainly. FTM is my second choice but only because I was so used to it (had it since 2.0). If you're open to something new, Legacy is very good. New Orleans Proud On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. > > Thanks everyone. > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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Hi Kathy, You only have to have that happen once and you learn from your mistakes. But, WOW what a price you pay! Years and years of hard work. That has happened to me but in a different way. We had a flood that destroyed everything in our house (this was before I had much on the computer.) I literally gave up on my genealogy for 10 years because I was so devastated and I just didn't have all that information in my head! And, I DO want to share my tree because I love to help and share information with everyone. But, my cousin is very old fashioned and she is helping me with the tree. She does not like to share with anyone other than family. I respect her wishes and keep it private. So, I go and look for all those cousins like you were mentioning. THAT IS THE VERY BEST THING ABOUT ANCESTRY!. I have now reached 110 cousins found via Ancestry and Facebook. I just created a new Family Group page where I invited all of them to have a family reunion via computer until we can make the real thing happen. It is a place that we can reacquaint ourselves with the ones we know and get to know the ones we don't know. And, it is a place that we can share stories and old photos of our ancestors and our immediate family. It has been very successful and now 110 people will have their family a little closer than they would have been and we all benefit! This has been very rewarding and is probably the best thing that has come out of my hobby! I wanted to share my story since you mentioned it, Kathy. Maybe some of you might want to do the same thing. It doesn't have to be large because mine just started out with the first cousins and kept growing as I found more. Now we have 4 generations! Age 1 year to 82 years old! Enough sharing of my story but I really wanted to share it with this group! Thank you for listening all. Happy Researching everyone, Shelia -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cochran Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:34 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy Thank you Sheila! You have just stated (ONE OF) the BEST BENEFIT(s) of Ancestry - to me - the automatic backup of all the work that I (we) have done! I already lost a 2 Terrabyte external hard drive last fall - this stuff HAPPENS! - having years of work uploaded to Ancestry is a SAVING GRACE! And I don't care about having my tree be "private." I have met more cousins this way than I ever imagined! Thank you again, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shelia Salomone Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:43 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage device. You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more records available to me than a free membership. Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! Shelia -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peggy Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:46 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have both. You CAN download from FTM and Legacy is a pretty awesome program. I have both it & FTM on my PC but use my Mac program mainly. FTM is my second choice but only because I was so used to it (had it since 2.0). If you're open to something new, Legacy is very good. New Orleans Proud On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. > > Thanks everyone. > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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I have both. You CAN download from FTM and Legacy is a pretty awesome program. I have both it & FTM on my PC but use my Mac program mainly. FTM is my second choice but only because I was so used to it (had it since 2.0). If you're open to something new, Legacy is very good. New Orleans Proud On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. > > Thanks everyone. > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Sheila! You have just stated (ONE OF) the BEST BENEFIT(s) of Ancestry - to me - the automatic backup of all the work that I (we) have done! I already lost a 2 Terrabyte external hard drive last fall - this stuff HAPPENS! - having years of work uploaded to Ancestry is a SAVING GRACE! And I don't care about having my tree be "private." I have met more cousins this way than I ever imagined! Thank you again, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shelia Salomone Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:43 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage device. You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more records available to me than a free membership. Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! Shelia -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peggy Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:46 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have both. You CAN download from FTM and Legacy is a pretty awesome program. I have both it & FTM on my PC but use my Mac program mainly. FTM is my second choice but only because I was so used to it (had it since 2.0). If you're open to something new, Legacy is very good. New Orleans Proud On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. > > Thanks everyone. > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5208 - Release Date: 08/18/12

Hi, I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. Thanks everyone. Joan Grego

I have to put my two cents worth in. I use FTM 2012. I do choose to upload to Ancestry only because I look at it as though Ancestry is my backup of all data in my family tree. If my computer crashed and I had no backup on a remote device I would lose it. Therefore, Ancestry is my external storage device. You can set Ancestry so that ALL of your tree is "PRIVATE". This is how I have mine set up. No one can see your data or tree unless you give them permission. The other nice thing is that the FTM 2012 program keeps the two databases in sync. If you make a change on FTM then it will be copied to Ancestry. And vice versa, if you make a change on Ancestry you will get the same change on FTM. But, this is a feature that you have control over. If you don't want them to stay synched then just turn the feature off. I personally like to do different things in each one just for ease of how certain processes work. For instance, I like to do my searches through Ancestry just because I find it easier. But, Ancestry does not have all of the features that FTM has such as People Merge and Find Duplicate Persons as well as other things. So, I do these tasks on FTM. Together they give me more flexibility. But, I also own a membership on Ancestry so there are more records available to me than a free membership. Now for LEGACY. I, too, have heard wonderful things about Legacy. There are features with it that is not available on FTM. But, my downfall is that it does not sync up to Ancestry. So, for me there would be more work involved finding the records on Ancestry or FTM and then transfer them to Legacy. But, all of these mentioned have the ability to download and save various GEDCOM files so that you could transfer them back and forth between different software. This may be the option I use so that I can take advantage of features in one that is not in the other. You just have to maintain the two or three and keep them in sync manually. I hope I did not bore everyone with the details and I would be glad to help you, Joan with the scenario that you would like if you have any problems! Just some things to think about when pondering "WHICH SOFTWARE FOR ME?"! Shelia -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peggy Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:46 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Legacy I have both. You CAN download from FTM and Legacy is a pretty awesome program. I have both it & FTM on my PC but use my Mac program mainly. FTM is my second choice but only because I was so used to it (had it since 2.0). If you're open to something new, Legacy is very good. New Orleans Proud On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I just went on Legacy's web site and it looks like I can download from FTM. They give you the instructions. Also there is a lot of information about Legacy on their site. Guess I will be doing a lot of reading for the next few days. > > Thanks everyone. > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's why I stay with Family Tree Maker 2011.... Do not want to share lots of stuff that I got for free with a company that will charge for it. My stuff is well sourced, so it would be easy pickings. If it gets where they force me to upload, I will go to some other program... Jan S - Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Joan Grego Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:59 PM To: laorleans Subject: [LAORLEAN] New genealogy program Hi Everyone, I have an old version (7.5) of Family Tree Maker with all my info. I have a new computer that I will be setting up next week. Should I get the 2012 version? Anyone have it? I called and spoke to a gentleman at Ancestry and he told me that when I upload my info to the program it will be sent to Ancestry. Did I understand him correctly? He also told me that the new computer would not let me download the old program but would let me download the info from a backup flash drive into the new version. I could use one of the free programs but I would need to put all my info in and that would not be easy for me. Any suggestions? Thanks, Joan Grego ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is he saying that if you buy & use the program, that your data becomes property of Ancestry? I was thinking of getting it since they now have a Mac version, but I think I'll keep what I have rather than have them take my data! Peggy New Orleans Proud On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:59 PM, "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have an old version (7.5) of Family Tree Maker with all my info. I have a new computer that I will be setting up next week. Should I get the 2012 version? Anyone have it? > > I called and spoke to a gentleman at Ancestry and he told me that when I upload my info to the program it will be sent to Ancestry. Did I understand him correctly? He also told me that the new computer would not let me download the old program but would let me download the info from a backup flash drive into the new version. > > I could use one of the free programs but I would need to put all my info in and that would not be easy for me. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I personally much prefer Legacy Family Tree. I have had nothing but great things to say about them since I started using them about 10 years ago. They have at least five years hat I know of been chosen the best out there. I highly recommend!!! Martha Carpenter Genealogy searches yesterday for who we are today. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Grego" <jmgrego@bellsouth.net> To: "laorleans" <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:59 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] New genealogy program > Hi Everyone, > > I have an old version (7.5) of Family Tree Maker with all my info. I have > a new computer that I will be setting up next week. Should I get the 2012 > version? Anyone have it? > > I called and spoke to a gentleman at Ancestry and he told me that when I > upload my info to the program it will be sent to Ancestry. Did I > understand him correctly? He also told me that the new computer would not > let me download the old program but would let me download the info from a > backup flash drive into the new version. > > I could use one of the free programs but I would need to put all my info > in and that would not be easy for me. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Joan Grego > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Which brings up another question, for me, anyway. I also am using Family Tree Maker 2011, and I like it pretty well, although I have always heard rave reviews about Legacy. But, does anyone know what the CAPACITY of FTM is (and I am sure it partially depends on how many pictures you add (I add LOTS)). I currently have just shy of 2,000 people in my tree, and don't want to see it "blow up" if I add too much. Will it give me any warning messages? Thanks for your responses in advance, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan B Strickland Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:26 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] New genealogy program That's why I stay with Family Tree Maker 2011.... Do not want to share lots of stuff that I got for free with a company that will charge for it. My stuff is well sourced, so it would be easy pickings. If it gets where they force me to upload, I will go to some other program... Jan S - Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Joan Grego Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:59 PM To: laorleans Subject: [LAORLEAN] New genealogy program Hi Everyone, I have an old version (7.5) of Family Tree Maker with all my info. I have a new computer that I will be setting up next week. Should I get the 2012 version? Anyone have it? I called and spoke to a gentleman at Ancestry and he told me that when I upload my info to the program it will be sent to Ancestry. Did I understand him correctly? He also told me that the new computer would not let me download the old program but would let me download the info from a backup flash drive into the new version. I could use one of the free programs but I would need to put all my info in and that would not be easy for me. Any suggestions? Thanks, Joan Grego ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5207 - Release Date: 08/18/12

Hi Everyone, I have an old version (7.5) of Family Tree Maker with all my info. I have a new computer that I will be setting up next week. Should I get the 2012 version? Anyone have it? I called and spoke to a gentleman at Ancestry and he told me that when I upload my info to the program it will be sent to Ancestry. Did I understand him correctly? He also told me that the new computer would not let me download the old program but would let me download the info from a backup flash drive into the new version. I could use one of the free programs but I would need to put all my info in and that would not be easy for me. Any suggestions? Thanks, Joan Grego