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    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Photographs
    2. Liz Haren
    3. Nice job on your photo web pages! On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Norm Hellmers <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> wrote: > To List, > > With the recent discussion about family photographs, I > thought I would share how I have posted the photos of > one branch of my family. I arranged them by topics and > then created a thumbnail for each one. Then for each > photo there is a separate page with a larger image and > descriptive text. The photographs, most of which were > taken in New Orleans, are here: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/ > > The photo website is linked from a general family > history page that I am still working on: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/ > > My maternal grandfather, with two wives, had a large > family. Here's a reunion photo from 1990: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/images/wpho0163/wpho0163.html > > Norm > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/12/2008 01:16:06
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Photographs
    2. Linda Dean
    3. WOW! These pages are great! What a wonderful idea. Thanks so much for sharing. Linda Dean On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Norm Hellmers <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> wrote: > To List, > > With the recent discussion about family photographs, I > thought I would share how I have posted the photos of > one branch of my family. I arranged them by topics and > then created a thumbnail for each one. Then for each > photo there is a separate page with a larger image and > descriptive text. The photographs, most of which were > taken in New Orleans, are here: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/ > > The photo website is linked from a general family > history page that I am still working on: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/ > > My maternal grandfather, with two wives, had a large > family. Here's a reunion photo from 1990: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/images/wpho0163/wpho0163.html > > Norm > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/12/2008 12:25:35
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Photographs
    2. Penny Tveiten
    3. Norm, You are lucky to have so many great photo's! It is a great album! Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: Norm Hellmers <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:46:11 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Photographs To List, With the recent discussion about family photographs, I thought I would share how I have posted the photos of one branch of my family. I arranged them by topics and then created a thumbnail for each one. Then for each photo there is a separate page with a larger image and descriptive text. The photographs, most of which were taken in New Orleans, are here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/ The photo website is linked from a general family history page that I am still working on: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/ My maternal grandfather, with two wives, had a large family. Here's a reunion photo from 1990: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/images/wpho0163/wpho0163.html Norm ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    03/11/2008 11:51:42
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] LAORLEAN Digest, FYI only - ONE FOOT IN LOUISIANA,
    2. Darnell Brunner
    3. If anyone on the list gets this book, could you let me know about the Elfer side? I am going to try and get it but I know I always get outbidded on these things. Darnell Marie Brunner Beck {Dee} "The Woman who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything." Edward J Phelps 1822 - 1900 Orleans Parish Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/orleans.htm My Home Page http://members.cox.net/darnellmbrunner/home.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <Smileson@aol.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com>; <acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] LAORLEAN Digest, FYI only - ONE FOOT IN LOUISIANA, > > ONE FOOT IN LOUISIANA, T. C. & Grand Elfert Mother-1983 > ebayItem number: 350034993247 > This hardback book was written by Lois M. Elfert Thompson, illustrated, > and > published in 1983, by Taylor Publishing Co. and although not stated it > appears > to be a first edition. It is approx. 8.00" X 10.75", and has 236 pages, > and is > in fine or better condition. No DJ, boards show minor shelf wear markings, > and the inside appears to be in little to never read condition. This book > is the > family history of Thomas Clarence Elfert and his wife Ora Lee O'Neal who > were > married in June 8, 1922 in Cheneyville, Louisiana. The book is profusely > illustrated with B/W photos of family members as well as some copies of > hand > written letters and legal documents. Some of the family names from the > Elfert side > include: Elfert, Elfer, Helfer, Ockman, Himel, Hymel, Bourgeois, Chauffe, > Scholf, Picou, Strec, Streek, and Phillips. Some of the family names from > the > O'Neal side: O'Neal, Squaires, Squyers, Scholars, Barberousse, Chamieau, > Bannier, > Hesser, Rambin, DeChambeau, Vercher, Sallioer, Ballion. There is some > family > information on each of the families named, marriages, births, deaths, as > will > as pictures. Insurance is required and is included in the shipping and > handling > cost. > > > > > ************** > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money &amp; > Finance. > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/11/2008 05:24:37
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Scanned New Orleans street map 1887
    2. Helen
    3. Hi, Penny I'd very much like a copy of your 1887 New Orleans Street map. Thank you so much, Helen Pluche Fort Worth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 08:28 PM 3/10/2008, you wrote: >I have scanned my 1887 New Orleans Street Map and would be glad to >send it to anyone who would like a copy. It is too large for my >printer, so it is in two parts. > >Penny T

    03/11/2008 03:49:17
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Fwd: Photograph is one family's history
    2. Barbara
    3. Colleen, Thanks for posting the story about the photograph. Only wish that would happen to me. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. After my dad passed away in 1992 a cousin of mine sent me a copy of a picture he had with my Dad sitting on my Grandma's lap and my Uncle on a tricycle and my 3 Aunts standing on the porch on which the picture was taken. It was taken about 1916 as my Dad was born December 25, 1915. The picture was taken in Napoleonville, LA. This is the only picture I have of my Dad as a child. I like old photos too. I have all my Mom's old photo collection. One of my favorites is the one of me and a friend taken out front of McDonogh No. 28, when we graduated from Miss Nina Pollatsek's Kindergarten class of June 1945, Elise H. Meyer, was Principal. I can still picture her riding her bike on sunny days and driving her old Ford 2 seater with a rumble seat on rainy days. Good memories!!! Barbara Ann Cangiamilla/Canciamilla ----- Original Message ----- From: <CFitzp@aol.com> To: <LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:15 AM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Fwd: Photograph is one family's history > Hi NOVA, > > I thought I'd share a story that Kathleen Wieland sent to me, in case she > does not post it herself. You all know I love old photos, and this is a > real > succss story. > > Colleen > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 > 1:41 PM > >

    03/11/2008 03:09:04
    1. [LAORLEAN] Photographs
    2. Norm Hellmers
    3. To List, With the recent discussion about family photographs, I thought I would share how I have posted the photos of one branch of my family. I arranged them by topics and then created a thumbnail for each one. Then for each photo there is a separate page with a larger image and descriptive text. The photographs, most of which were taken in New Orleans, are here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/ The photo website is linked from a general family history page that I am still working on: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/ My maternal grandfather, with two wives, had a large family. Here's a reunion photo from 1990: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wegener/wegener_history/photos/images/wpho0163/wpho0163.html Norm ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    03/11/2008 02:46:11
    1. [LAORLEAN] LAORLEAN Digest, FYI only - ONE FOOT IN LOUISIANA,
    2. ONE FOOT IN LOUISIANA, T. C. & Grand Elfert Mother-1983 ebayItem number: 350034993247 This hardback book was written by Lois M. Elfert Thompson, illustrated, and published in 1983, by Taylor Publishing Co. and although not stated it appears to be a first edition. It is approx. 8.00" X 10.75", and has 236 pages, and is in fine or better condition. No DJ, boards show minor shelf wear markings, and the inside appears to be in little to never read condition. This book is the family history of Thomas Clarence Elfert and his wife Ora Lee O'Neal who were married in June 8, 1922 in Cheneyville, Louisiana. The book is profusely illustrated with B/W photos of family members as well as some copies of hand written letters and legal documents. Some of the family names from the Elfert side include: Elfert, Elfer, Helfer, Ockman, Himel, Hymel, Bourgeois, Chauffe, Scholf, Picou, Strec, Streek, and Phillips. Some of the family names from the O'Neal side: O'Neal, Squaires, Squyers, Scholars, Barberousse, Chamieau, Bannier, Hesser, Rambin, DeChambeau, Vercher, Sallioer, Ballion. There is some family information on each of the families named, marriages, births, deaths, as will as pictures. Insurance is required and is included in the shipping and handling cost. ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money &amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

    03/11/2008 08:46:44
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Kathleen Wieland's Photo Story
    2. Jan Strickland
    3. What a great story, thanks for sharing it, Kathleen and Colleen Jan S - Orlando,FL -------Original Message------- From: CFitzp@aol.com Date: 3/11/2008 10:49:55 AM To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] Kathleen Wieland's Photo Story This story was sent to you by: Kathleen Wieland -------------------- Photograph is one family's history -------------------- By Donna Porstner Staff Writer March 10, 2008 STAMFORD - Every time Tony Mattera went to Remo's, an Italian restaurant and pizzeria on Bedford Street, an old black and white photo of a family gathered around the dinner table, glasses held high in a toast, caught his eye. The young woman on the end reminded him of his cousin, Sylvia. But Mattera would learn that it wasn't just his cousin who was frozen in time in the photo, shot in New York seven decades ago and now part of the decor of the downtown Stamford eatery. His father, mother and brother, Philip, are in it, too.

    03/11/2008 06:44:52
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Fwd: Photograph is one family's history
    2. Merci! Susan **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

    03/11/2008 05:58:23
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Fwd: Photograph is one family's history
    2. HI, I resent Kathleen's story about the photos. I saw it arrive in my own mailbox. Colleen **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

    03/11/2008 05:55:22
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Fwd: Photograph is one family's history
    2. I'd love to read the story, Colleen - where is it? Not in the email you sent. Susan **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

    03/11/2008 05:44:45
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Penny - 1887 map of NO
    2. Monty Maness
    3. Penny, I'd love a copy of that map! Can you send it to my personal address? mmaness@bellsouth.net Thank you!! Lisa Norcross, GA Researching in LA: Andry, Beninato, Campo, Derbes, McGee Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:21:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Penny Tveiten <pennyt153@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <256771.34866.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Bridgette and Norm, I have a NO map from 1887, and it shows Water Street following the riverall the way to Monroe, and Washington { between Short and Berdette }meeting it. I see another Washington closer to the Fairgrounds near Ursulines and St John, that does not seem to connect. I hope this helps a little. Penny T

    03/11/2008 05:03:39
    1. [LAORLEAN] Kathleen Wieland's Photo Story
    2. This story was sent to you by: Kathleen Wieland -------------------- Photograph is one family's history -------------------- By Donna Porstner Staff Writer March 10, 2008 STAMFORD - Every time Tony Mattera went to Remo's, an Italian restaurant and pizzeria on Bedford Street, an old black and white photo of a family gathered around the dinner table, glasses held high in a toast, caught his eye. The young woman on the end reminded him of his cousin, Sylvia. But Mattera would learn that it wasn't just his cousin who was frozen in time in the photo, shot in New York seven decades ago and now part of the decor of the downtown Stamford eatery. His father, mother and brother, Philip, are in it, too. Another cousin, Gilda Mattera of Brooklyn, N.Y., helped him make the connection. The cousin - the younger sister of the woman Mattera recognized in the photo - said it could be their relatives because their grandmother's visit to America when she was 81 was covered widely by the New York press in 1936. More curious than ever, Mattera looked back at a digital photo his daughter snapped when they were having dinner at Remo's last year. Blown up on his computer, it all came into focus. "I said, 'Oh my God,' " said Mattera, who lives in the Westover section of Stamford. The photo was taken in the back room of his uncle Salvatore Agnese's grocery store at 504 Court St. in the Red Hook section of Brooklyn on the day his father, mother, brother and grandmother arrived from Italy. At first Mattera did not recognize Philip, who is 9 in the photo, because his head was shaved for the journey overseas. The New York Times, New York Herald Tribune, New York Evening Journal, Brook lyn Daily Eagle and an Italian newspaper covered Anna Agnese's visit to America because it was so unusual at that time for someone that age to make the voyage. The Herald Tribune said two dozen relatives were waiting for the "doughty octogenarian" they called Nonna with a bouquet of roses, carnations and marigolds. Many of the 30 grandchildren and four great-grandchildren had never met her. "They stared at her, a stocky, stalwart figure dressed in a brown frock that reaches to the ground, her grizzled locks covered with a brown, silk bandana, her ears ornamented with circular gold rings. They kissed her with a certain solemn reverence and ushered her into the store. Mrs. Agnese was quiet, too, and almost awed as her eyes fell on the arrays of sausages, cheeses and forms of macaroni that stocked the shelves," the Tribune wrote in an article that appeared underneath the family photo. Tony Mattera, 70, a retired telecommunications engineer, quickly shared his discovery with relatives all over the country, sending them e-mails of the photograph. Because his grandmother's visit was before he was born, he learned most of the story from newspaper clippings he found this week at the New York Public Library. Yesterday, Tony Mattera brought a group of relatives who were in town for a family party to Remo's to see the photo, which the previous restaurant owners found on the Internet. For Philip Mattera, 80, of New Hyde Park, N.Y., the photo brought back memories of his voyage overseas on the Italian ocean liner Rex. "My grandmother brought a plant from Italy. She hid it under her dress to get it here," Philip Mattera recalled. They took her to see the Empire State Building before she returned home about six months later, he said. There was some sort of family dispute over who would care for Agnese in America so she went home, Philip Mattera said. Younger relatives hovered around the photograph in the pizzeria yesterday with curiosity, trying to figure out which of their ancestors they resemble. Cathy Liebl, Philip's daughter, found the family resemblance uncanny and wondered why it took her Uncle Tony a year to figure it out. She turned to him and said, "I'm looking at the photo and I'm thinking, how do you not recognize these people?" Looking back, Mattera said he's frustrated he didn't make the connection earlier, saying he must have seen the photo a half-dozen times over the past year. "For a year, I was staring at that thing," he said. "I grew up in that back room. That's where I learned to tie my shoes, learned to tell time, learned to become a Yankees fan." As far as the Matteras know, only four of the 16 people in the picture are still alive - Philip, their cousin Sylvia Clenzi and two cousins in Long Island. Reached by telephone yesterday, Clenzi said she remembers family members chipping in to pay for La Nonna's visit, and her mother doing all the cooking. They feasted on chicken, rabbit and more than a dozen kinds of macaroni, according to newspaper accounts. "I remember it was a lot of confusion, a lot of people," said Clenzi, 87, a second cousin living in Deerfield Beach, Fla. "I was 16." She said La Nonna, who was six years younger in the photo than Clenzi is today, looked so old because she spent time a lot of time in the sun on the island of Ischia off the coast of Naples. The New York Times described her face as "lined and weather-beaten." But it was her own appearance Clenzi was most concerned about when she learned her teenage years were on display in a Stamford restaurant. "I thought I was fatter than that," she said. "Then, when I looked at it I thought, 'It's not that bad.' " Copyright (c) 2008, Southern Connecticut Newspapers, Inc. -------------------- This article originally appeared at: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/scn-sa-nor.remos2mar10,0,3179256.st ory Visit the Advocate online at http://www.stamfordadvocate.com **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

    03/11/2008 04:47:56
    1. [LAORLEAN] Fwd: Photograph is one family's history
    2. Hi NOVA, I thought I'd share a story that Kathleen Wieland sent to me, in case she does not post it herself. You all know I love old photos, and this is a real succss story. Colleen **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

    03/11/2008 12:15:09
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location
    2. mrszipp
    3. Thank You both - Norm and Penny. I decided to go back to the Library and re-check for this person. Sure enough the last name was spelled wrong. I found him in the 1893 city directory and his address reads Berrill, William, clk, r. 1 Washington Ave 4th dist. Along with the information you guys have supplied me with I should be able to place where he lived. Thanks again Bridgette PS: Penny - if you would please forward me a copy of the 1887 map. mrszipp@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location > Hello Bridgette, > > Without a bit more information, it might be hard to > firmly identify this location. If you look at the name > changes page you will see that there were a number of > streets that were named Washington Street prior to > 1894. See: > http://nutrias.org/~nopl/facts/streetnames/streetsw.htm > You will also see that Water Street was previously > Levee in some places. So there may have been several > possibilities for this location. > > One possibility is the intersection of Washington > Street (today's Washington Avenue) with Water Street, > an intersection that existed in 1885 and shows up on > the 1890 Cotton Centennial map. Water Street was > between Tchoupitoulas Street and the river. Today what > had been Water Street is the location of the Clarence > Henry Truckway. On the 1885 Sanborn map there are a > few buildings at that intersection, but it was not > much of a residential area. Possibly he lived there. > > You can also see this intersection on Plate 11 of the > 1883 Robinson map. See: > http://www.notarialarchives.org/robinson/guide.htm > > This "intersection" (they don't really intersect) of > today's Washington Avenue and the Clarence Henry > Truckway MIGHT be the former location you are looking > for, but again, it would be helpful to have more > information about your person. > > Norm > > --- mrszipp <mrszipp@cox.net> wrote: >> I'm having trouble understanding the location on a >> Death Certificate for 1892. >> According to the death certificate he died at Waters >> and Washingtion. The obit reads >> that the funeral will take place at his residence, >> corner of Washington and Waters. >> I've looked at a map for 1890 and Water and >> Washington are no where near each other. >> I've also looked to see if Water Street may have had >> a name change, but couldn't find any. >> I've check the city directory for him and it looks >> like he is missing 1892 and 1893. > . . . > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/10/2008 02:49:08
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location
    2. Norm Hellmers
    3. Bridgette, The address of a residence of 1 Washington Avenue (at Water Street) in the 4th District should have been in the block between Water and Tchoupitoulas. I can't find a residence marked with No. 1. Not much shows up there in the 1885 Sanborn maps. It should have been on the downtown side of Washington. All I can see there is a building marked "OFF" [office]. I'll send you two maps that show you that area in detail. Norm --- mrszipp <mrszipp@cox.net> wrote: . . . > I found him in the 1893 city > directory and his address reads > Berrill, William, clk, r. 1 Washington Ave 4th dist. . . . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    03/10/2008 02:13:31
    1. [LAORLEAN] Scanned New Orleans street map 1887
    2. Penny Tveiten
    3. I have scanned my 1887 New Orleans Street Map and would be glad to send it to anyone who would like a copy. It is too large for my printer, so it is in two parts. Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: Penny Tveiten <pennyt153@yahoo.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:21:22 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location Hello Bridgette and Norm, I have a NO map from 1887, and it shows Water Street following the riverall the way to Monroe, and Washington { between Short and Berdette }meeting it. I see another Washington closer to the Fairgrounds near Ursulines and St John, that does not seem to connect. I hope this helps a little. Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: Norm Hellmers <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:28:09 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location Hello Bridgette, Without a bit more information, it might be hard to firmly identify this location. If you look at the name changes page you will see that there were a number of streets that were named Washington Street prior to 1894. See: http://nutrias.org/~nopl/facts/streetnames/streetsw.htm You will also see that Water Street was previously Levee in some places. So there may have been several possibilities for this location. One possibility is the intersection of Washington Street (today's Washington Avenue) with Water Street, an intersection that existed in 1885 and shows up on the 1890 Cotton Centennial map. Water Street was between Tchoupitoulas Street and the river. Today what had been Water Street is the location of the Clarence Henry Truckway. On the 1885 Sanborn map there are a few buildings at that intersection, but it was not much of a residential area. Possibly he lived there. You can also see this intersection on Plate 11 of the 1883 Robinson map. See: http://www.notarialarchives.org/robinson/guide.htm This "intersection" (they don't really intersect) of today's Washington Avenue and the Clarence Henry Truckway MIGHT be the former location you are looking for, but again, it would be helpful to have more information about your person. Norm --- mrszipp <mrszipp@cox.net> wrote: > I'm having trouble understanding the location on a > Death Certificate for 1892. > According to the death certificate he died at Waters > and Washingtion. The obit reads > that the funeral will take place at his residence, > corner of Washington and Waters. > I've looked at a map for 1890 and Water and > Washington are no where near each other. > I've also looked to see if Water Street may have had > a name change, but couldn't find any. > I've check the city directory for him and it looks > like he is missing 1892 and 1893. . . . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    03/10/2008 12:28:34
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location
    2. Penny Tveiten
    3. Hello Bridgette and Norm, I have a NO map from 1887, and it shows Water Street following the riverall the way to Monroe, and Washington { between Short and Berdette }meeting it. I see another Washington closer to the Fairgrounds near Ursulines and St John, that does not seem to connect. I hope this helps a little. Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: Norm Hellmers <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:28:09 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location Hello Bridgette, Without a bit more information, it might be hard to firmly identify this location. If you look at the name changes page you will see that there were a number of streets that were named Washington Street prior to 1894. See: http://nutrias.org/~nopl/facts/streetnames/streetsw.htm You will also see that Water Street was previously Levee in some places. So there may have been several possibilities for this location. One possibility is the intersection of Washington Street (today's Washington Avenue) with Water Street, an intersection that existed in 1885 and shows up on the 1890 Cotton Centennial map. Water Street was between Tchoupitoulas Street and the river. Today what had been Water Street is the location of the Clarence Henry Truckway. On the 1885 Sanborn map there are a few buildings at that intersection, but it was not much of a residential area. Possibly he lived there. You can also see this intersection on Plate 11 of the 1883 Robinson map. See: http://www.notarialarchives.org/robinson/guide.htm This "intersection" (they don't really intersect) of today's Washington Avenue and the Clarence Henry Truckway MIGHT be the former location you are looking for, but again, it would be helpful to have more information about your person. Norm --- mrszipp <mrszipp@cox.net> wrote: > I'm having trouble understanding the location on a > Death Certificate for 1892. > According to the death certificate he died at Waters > and Washingtion. The obit reads > that the funeral will take place at his residence, > corner of Washington and Waters. > I've looked at a map for 1890 and Water and > Washington are no where near each other. > I've also looked to see if Water Street may have had > a name change, but couldn't find any. > I've check the city directory for him and it looks > like he is missing 1892 and 1893. . . . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    03/10/2008 04:21:22
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Help with location
    2. Norm Hellmers
    3. Hello Bridgette, Without a bit more information, it might be hard to firmly identify this location. If you look at the name changes page you will see that there were a number of streets that were named Washington Street prior to 1894. See: http://nutrias.org/~nopl/facts/streetnames/streetsw.htm You will also see that Water Street was previously Levee in some places. So there may have been several possibilities for this location. One possibility is the intersection of Washington Street (today's Washington Avenue) with Water Street, an intersection that existed in 1885 and shows up on the 1890 Cotton Centennial map. Water Street was between Tchoupitoulas Street and the river. Today what had been Water Street is the location of the Clarence Henry Truckway. On the 1885 Sanborn map there are a few buildings at that intersection, but it was not much of a residential area. Possibly he lived there. You can also see this intersection on Plate 11 of the 1883 Robinson map. See: http://www.notarialarchives.org/robinson/guide.htm This "intersection" (they don't really intersect) of today's Washington Avenue and the Clarence Henry Truckway MIGHT be the former location you are looking for, but again, it would be helpful to have more information about your person. Norm --- mrszipp <mrszipp@cox.net> wrote: > I'm having trouble understanding the location on a > Death Certificate for 1892. > According to the death certificate he died at Waters > and Washingtion. The obit reads > that the funeral will take place at his residence, > corner of Washington and Waters. > I've looked at a map for 1890 and Water and > Washington are no where near each other. > I've also looked to see if Water Street may have had > a name change, but couldn't find any. > I've check the city directory for him and it looks > like he is missing 1892 and 1893. . . . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    03/10/2008 03:28:09