Hi Nova, I just wanted everyone to know that no one from this list has ever snubbed me in any way. You all are some of the most generous, encouraging and helpful people it has been my privilege to be associated with. I can't begin to thank you all enough for all the help you have given me over the years. I know a lot of the folks on this list are older than me, I started my research when I was 36 in 2000, I am now 42. I work full time and I have an 11 year old son, so I am limited in the amount of time I can devote to genealogical research. But this list has been the jewel of unlocking much valuable family information. I didn't even know the Family History Libraries existed until Colleen told me six years ago. I also want to make it clear that I have never, nor will I ever, try to claim any blood lineage to my adoptive family. I can join DAR and the Confederate Daughters if I want on my daddy's side of the family, where there is no adoption. But I am not a joiner, so I really don't care. It is the family history I am interested in, and I feel like it is my right to know about the history of my adoptive family. They chose my mother and her sisters and made them part of their family, and I know my grandmother would want my mother to know anything she wanted about Hyams family. She died when my mother was 15, so there was no opportunity to ask her directly about her family history. Certainly not by me. I also know that because New Orleans has been heavily Catholic, there are many of us who have adoptees in our family. My mom and her sisters were adopted in the 1930s and 1940s. The attitude of society back then was much different than it is now, or I hoped it would be. I have always tried to respect the attitude of my mother and her sisters. They feel like they know who their real parents are, and that it would be disrespectful to their adoptive parents to search for their birth families. Even though both my grandparents are deceased. I am caught between a rock and a hard place with them. I love my mother and my aunts dearly, and I know some of the cruelty they had to endure when others found out they were adopted. They were shamed for not being blood family, by outsiders, but also from some family as well. This is a big sore spot for them. They feel like they are the children of their adopted parents and to hell with what anyone else says or thinks. My mom feels like if I search for her biological family, that I am siding with the folks who ridiculed her and her sisters as children and adolescents. My mother is 64 and her biological mother has probably been dead for years. Since mother was adopted in Jan of 1944, I am suspecting her daddy was a soldier who had to go to war. If he was old enough to serve in 44, he is surely dead by now. I have my mom's adoption papers, and the court supposedly sealed the records. Her birth mother's name was Peggy Brannon, and when I went to Ireland in 2000, I found that the name originated in County Fermaugh in Ireland. That is the extent of what I know. I may search later, but only with my mother's consent, she gave me permission to look up the name while I was there. I stared this discussion because I know there are many New Orleans families who have adoptees in their family, much more so than other American cities, because of the Catholic population. I wanted to know how you all felt about this because I know that you all are incredibly decent people and I value your opinion. This has been a very upsetting situation for me, and the kind words offered by list members is truly appreciated. Allison Eleuterius Bartsch

Group, Celebrate with Glen and me. We got a really great find of our two families meeting each other. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Carreras" <genealogy@noesnada.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > Joan, > > That is the family alright, and yes, Federico was indeed Amelia's > husband. I will send you the death certificate for him which identifies > his parents as Salvador Carreras and Josefa Boada. I was hoping to find > that the family had ties to Menorca but one tidbit of info I have hints > that they are probably from mainland Spain. I'll send that info too. > Thanks for the reply. > > joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Dear Glen, >> My Anita Carreras, was born about 1926, was living in New Orleans in 1930 >> with her father Fred, Mother Anna, and little sister Frances. >> She married Raymond Gregson born about 1923, and they had three sons and >> two >> daughters, one son of whom died in 2002. >> I have Fred as Frederich in the 1920 Census in Louisiana, born in Cuba, >> and >> his two of his siblings also born in Cuba, and a sister Rachel born in >> Spain >> and a mother Amelia born in Spain. There is no husband mentioned in that >> household. Might he be your Federico? >> >> > > -- > www.noesnada.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Main New Orleans families: Campbell (Hugh, born about 1831 in Ireland - desperately seeking info) Bernius Farrell Servat Swords Tierney (Michael, born bet. 1857 - 1862 in New Orleans) Allied Families: Roper McCarty/McCarthy Ducastaing McCloskey Grunberg Deane Bonneval Simpson Gilbert Babin Smith Corcoran Fisher/Fischer Zeringue Julie

Regarding attitudes toward adoption: I was adopted as an infant in 1940. I didn't learn that I was adopted until I was around nine years old, and the reason my adoptive mother told me then was to instill in me a sense of gratitude and duty, since I was perceived as a "difficult child." She told me never to tell anybody, since at that time there was a good deal of stigma attached to adoption. It took me years, until I was in my 30s, to even get my adoptive parents to let me see my adoption papers, and even then they wouldn't let me take them to be copied because "somebody might see them." It took me many more years to find my birth family, but I did get to meet my birth mother, three half-siblings, aunts, uncles, and cousins. All were very welcoming. Only last summer did I find my birth father, who unfortunately had been dead since 1979, around the time I started searching for my family. I would have hoped that by now attitudes toward adoption have gotten more enlightened. I'm certainly not ashamed of being an adoptee and I make no secret of it. I've researched both my adoptive and my birth families. Carolyn Long (originally Michael Anne Thompson, descended from Samuel Thompson, who, according to family lore, was a British soldier who deserted at the time of the Battle of New Orleans and settled in Mississippi)

My family names in the New Orleans area are as follows Tuit Luquette Dias/Diaz Mendez Van Haarselvar(?) Blanchin Brasseaux Dunbar With thanks Leonie Tuit Perth, Western Australia

To Allison, Don't think for one moment you were stupid to let people know your mother is adopted. My father is adopted. Because I knew nothing of his biological family when I started tracing my family tree I did the adopted family side. I called a "cousin" on the adopted side and asked if he'd help with information. He was very quick to point out that my father was adopted and "therefore not entitled to anything the family has". I lost my temper and quickly pointed out to him that in the eyes of the law my father was as much a part of that family as if he'd been born into it. I also understand not wanting to upset your mother by researching her biological family but by waiting you might miss a chance to get information directly from the family. My father didn't want to search for his until my grandmother passed. When she did I started researching only to find that his birth mother had just recently passed as well. Because no one in the family knew she had placed a child for adoption we missed our chance to get information we needed without having to shock her other children by telling them they had a brother. Two of his three siblings were okay with the idea, agreed to DNA testing and we were able to prove relations. Lisa in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 7:45:49 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy Hi Martha, Thanks for your comments. Maybe part of my problem is that I tell everyone that my mother and her sisters are adopted. I felt like I was supposed to disclose that information. I was very frustrated last week because I sent a lot of good stuff that took me years to compile, to a "cousin" in Georgia. She had family letters that mentioned my great grandfather and his exploits. I sent the cousin the obit, and a picture of his headstone, and a scanned copy of confederate notes which bear his signature. In return, I was hoping she would send me copies of the letters mentioning my great grandfather. I haven't heard a word from her since my email mentioned the adoptions. And now I am sure I can't get the information because I am not blood family. I feel like a cartoon character with steam streaming from my ears. If I hadn't been so stupid, I might have gotten the information. I just didn't know to keep my mouth shut. I can't research my mother's biological family now. She is all up in my business and she would find out. It would be like her childhood whenever stupid people told her that she was not really family to her mother and father. So, I can't do any research on her biological family. I made a promise that I am going to keep. But this has been so upsetting because I really wanted the information in the family letters. And now I am left with the impression that I don't deserve to have it because I am not really family. That sucks. Anyway, I felt like I had to speak for the adoptees out there. I hoped that we are far enough along with our society that we were past trying to shame adoptees, but apparently some knuckle-draggers out there haven't evolved enough to render the defense unnecessary. Allison Eleuterius Bartsch ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, My husband was adopted as an infant and we adopted our two children (boy & girl) also as infants in 1964 and 1966. Each one of their situations are different. The kids never remember me sitting down and telling them because we always talked about it in story form. On my family website (tribalpages.com), I add the birthparents names. if I know them. For others, I just type "birth parents unknown". So far, no one seems offended. We have learned who my husband's birth mother was and have traced some of her ancestry. We found out about my daughter's birth parents and met the mother, maternal grandfather, and paternal grandparents. (Birth father died when my daughter was 2.) Unfortunately, we have never found out anything for my son, although I've posted queries. I have separate websites for my husband's and daughter's birth side. For my daughter, I wrote under her notes that we are her adoptive parents; also did this for my husband and wrote "birth father" unknown. This way, my precious little granddaughter (age 8) will have all her family's names. By the way, I wish some one would come up with a better name than "adopted". When my children were adopted their birth parents were called "biological parents". Birth parents sounds so nice, but "adoptive" doesn't sound good to me; after all you can adopt a pet. As for lineage societies... I belong to DAR (did it for the challenge) and if I didn't tell anybody, my daughter could join with the paperwork I have, but know it would be bogus. She is a descendant of early Californians and should be able to join "The Native Daughters of the Golden West", but can't prove it because her birth certificate shows us as her parents. The good thing is she's not a joiner, so it's OK with her. (Life does suck sometimes.) When I met my daughter's birth mother in 1990, we had a big family reunion. It was fun! I believe that it's not only about the genealogy, it's about family history. I do not like to call myself a genealogist, but rather the family historian. Good luck in searching! Bev in Calif. PA native ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > Hi Nova, > > I have a question to ask the list. I was lucky enough to have the > genealogy of my father's family done for me by an uncle years before I was > born. I had always been interested in family history because it was there > for me to know. My father's family had been on the Mississippi Coast > (Biloxi) since D'Iberville landed. > > Nobody had done research on my mother's family, which is from New Orleans. > My mother is adopted and there in comes the issue. My mother did not want > me to pursue her biological family. My grandmother adopted three little > girls, from the Protestant Home for Babies, in New Orleans. I even have > mother's adoption papers with her birth mother's name listed. But none of > the sisters have expressed any interest in their biological roots. > However, they were eager for me to do research on their adopted family. > Which I have done, with some measure of success. > > Apparently adoption is a volatile subject in genealogy. Recently, I have > had two "cousins" stop corresponding with me as soon as they found out my > mother was adopted. This has occurred within the last 6 months. > > I don't really know how to feel about this, it is quite upsetting. I > dared not tell my mother or her sisters, because I would never say or do > anything that would shame them about their adoption. > > Closer family members have done nothing but encourage me in my research. > But I have had the snub happen before when I first started doing research, > about six years ago. > > Can someone educate me about the prevailing attitude toward adoptees in > genealogy? Are these snubs common for adoptees? Am I wrong in thinking > that my mother's adopted family is just as legitimate as blood? I have > and would never claim any type of heritage for joining associations like > the DAR or their like. My grandmother was a great lady, and she chose my > mother and her sisters to be her family, I don't see why we can't be her > family too. > > Thank you for your consideration of this matter. > > Allison Eleuterius Bartsch > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

this is a partial list: Adams/Adam' (those related to Judge Lucien Adams) Fagot Sarpy D'aquin Bienvenu De la Barre Dutisne Dutillet Latil Mendez, Mendes Devron Fitzgerald Lambert Segovia Dieckmann, Dickman there are many more names but I can't think of them all right now. Please contact me offlist at lesliewadams@yahoo.com if you have any information especially on Judge Lucien Adams and family. Happy Moments-Praise God Difficult Moments-Seek God Painful Moments-Trust God Every Moment-Thank God ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com

Rikard, I have Lillian Hill (b. abt. 1877) married on 30 Nov 1903 to Harry Gregson b. 25 Oct 1882, d. Feb 1963. All those events in NOLA. I cannot find them in a US Census after that. There is Lillian married to Harry or Henry, but they are not quite right dates, and they are in Tennessee, and they are born in Tennessee. Might you have info on them for me? Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rikard Hill" <rikrikardo1@centurytel.net> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > Joan, > > Who were your HILL ancestors in NO? Mine were a German HILLE family > from the Kingdom of Hanover that was anglicized to HILL about 1850. > Heads of household were Henry Hill and John C. Hill > > Rikard Hill > Defiance, MO > > -----Original Message----- > From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:37 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > > I think so much about Burnses. Here is the other half, the Gregsons: > > Brauner > > Carreras > > Daly > > Dubernet > > Glaudi > > Gregson > > Hill > > Holzwarth > > Imholte > > Jane > > Kane > > Merriman > > Reinecker > > Sylvis > > Viola > > > > Joan Schaefer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mrszipp" <mrszipp@cox.net> > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:40 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > > >> Would everyone on the list be up for a Roll Call? >> >> >> Thanks >> Bridgette >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joan, Does your Carreras line run through Salvador Carreras and Josefa Boada? I'd be very interested in knowing more about that line in order to see if they are related to my Carreras line. I only know that they were of Spain, but not exactly where in Spain they lived. I have a scan of the death certificate for Federico Carreras that I can email to you if you are interested. Glen Carreras joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net wrote: > I think so much about Burnses. Here is the other half, the Gregsons: > > Brauner > > Carreras >

The problem of sending information to relatives and having them snub you afterwards is not confined to adoptees. After you've be at this a while, you learn to hold back on some of the "good stuff" until you get something you want in return. I've already sent relatives info that took me 20 years and tons of money to compile only to hear them say, "is that it?" Needless to say, they didn't get any more. Fortunately, the vast majority are not like this. Judy Riffel Baton Rouge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > Hi Martha, > > Thanks for your comments. Maybe part of my problem is that I tell > everyone > that my mother and her sisters are adopted. I felt like I was supposed to > disclose that information. I was very frustrated last week because I sent > a > lot of good stuff that took me years to compile, to a "cousin" in Georgia. > > She had family letters that mentioned my great grandfather and his > exploits. > I sent the cousin the obit, and a picture of his headstone, and a scanned > copy of confederate notes which bear his signature. In return, I was > hoping > she would send me copies of the letters mentioning my great grandfather. > I > haven't heard a word from her since my email mentioned the adoptions. And > now I am sure I can't get the information because I am not blood family. > I > feel like a cartoon character with steam streaming from my ears. If I > hadn't been so stupid, I might have gotten the information. I just didn't > know to keep my mouth shut. > > I can't research my mother's biological family now. She is all up in my > business and she would find out. It would be like her childhood whenever > stupid people told her that she was not really family to her mother and > father. So, I can't do any research on her biological family. I made a > promise that I am going to keep. > > But this has been so upsetting because I really wanted the information in > the family letters. And now I am left with the impression that I don't > deserve to have it because I am not really family. That sucks. > > Anyway, I felt like I had to speak for the adoptees out there. I hoped > that > we are far enough along with our society that we were past trying to shame > adoptees, but apparently some knuckle-draggers out there haven't evolved > enough to render the defense unnecessary. > > Allison Eleuterius Bartsch > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Glen, My Anita Carreras, was born about 1926, was living in New Orleans in 1930 with her father Fred, Mother Anna, and little sister Frances. She married Raymond Gregson born about 1923, and they had three sons and two daughters, one son of whom died in 2002. I have Fred as Frederich in the 1920 Census in Louisiana, born in Cuba, and his two of his siblings also born in Cuba, and a sister Rachel born in Spain and a mother Amelia born in Spain. There is no husband mentioned in that household. Might he be your Federico? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Carreras" <genealogy@noesnada.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > Joan, > > Does your Carreras line run through Salvador Carreras and Josefa Boada? > I'd be very interested in knowing more about that line in order to see > if they are related to my Carreras line. I only know that they were of > Spain, but not exactly where in Spain they lived. I have a scan of the > death certificate for Federico Carreras that I can email to you if you > are interested. > > Glen Carreras > > joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> I think so much about Burnses. Here is the other half, the Gregsons: >> >> Brauner >> >> Carreras >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Julie One reason you can't find anything is that the family name is usually spelled MACARTY or DE MACARTY. There were several branches of this family--one owned land upriver in what is now Carrollton, one owned land downriver in what is now the Bywater, and one owned land in St. Bernard Parish near the Chalmette Battlefield. I've working on a research project on this family, and will send you some sources if you contact me off-line (carolynlong@earthlink.net). Also, if you're in New Orleans and spend time at the NOPL, you will probably meet a lovely lady named Sonja McCarthy (yes, I know, that's not the way it was traditionally spelled), who has compiled an incredible genealogy on the Macartys of color. > [Original Message] > From: Julie Campbell Hernandez <juliech@cox.net> > To: <LAORLEAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 03/30/2008 9:45:09 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] McCarty Plantation > > Hi, Nova! > > Does anyone know anything about the McCarty Plantation? The only thing I can find is that it was located in what we now know as Carrollton and the house on the plantation eventually became the Court House for the Carrollton. The plantation was annexed to the City of New Orleans in 1833. > > What I really need to know is who built/owned/lived in the McCarty Plantation. I can find nothing on the McCarty family with regard to the plantation. > > Any ideas? > > Julie Hernandez > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1359 - Release Date: 04/04/2008 8:23 AM

Joan, Who were your HILL ancestors in NO? Mine were a German HILLE family from the Kingdom of Hanover that was anglicized to HILL about 1850. Heads of household were Henry Hill and John C. Hill Rikard Hill Defiance, MO -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of joan_f_schaefer@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:37 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call I think so much about Burnses. Here is the other half, the Gregsons: Brauner Carreras Daly Dubernet Glaudi Gregson Hill Holzwarth Imholte Jane Kane Merriman Reinecker Sylvis Viola Joan Schaefer ----- Original Message ----- From: "mrszipp" <mrszipp@cox.net> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > Would everyone on the list be up for a Roll Call? > > > Thanks > Bridgette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this from Grace King's book....lots on the Macarty family: http://tinyurl.com/5ckr2u >There is a description of the house close to the bottom of section >on the Macartys Cat Donnow http://www.ambiancestudio.com mailto:ambicat@charter.net

Hi Martha, Thanks for your comments. Maybe part of my problem is that I tell everyone that my mother and her sisters are adopted. I felt like I was supposed to disclose that information. I was very frustrated last week because I sent a lot of good stuff that took me years to compile, to a "cousin" in Georgia. She had family letters that mentioned my great grandfather and his exploits. I sent the cousin the obit, and a picture of his headstone, and a scanned copy of confederate notes which bear his signature. In return, I was hoping she would send me copies of the letters mentioning my great grandfather. I haven't heard a word from her since my email mentioned the adoptions. And now I am sure I can't get the information because I am not blood family. I feel like a cartoon character with steam streaming from my ears. If I hadn't been so stupid, I might have gotten the information. I just didn't know to keep my mouth shut. I can't research my mother's biological family now. She is all up in my business and she would find out. It would be like her childhood whenever stupid people told her that she was not really family to her mother and father. So, I can't do any research on her biological family. I made a promise that I am going to keep. But this has been so upsetting because I really wanted the information in the family letters. And now I am left with the impression that I don't deserve to have it because I am not really family. That sucks. Anyway, I felt like I had to speak for the adoptees out there. I hoped that we are far enough along with our society that we were past trying to shame adoptees, but apparently some knuckle-draggers out there haven't evolved enough to render the defense unnecessary. Allison Eleuterius Bartsch

I don't believe that it is fair to call someone a "bloodline snob". Many researchers are looking for their heritage - which is bloodline. Genealogy research, as its very nature is bloodline. Some want to join heritage organizations, others just want the information. I see no reason that an adopted person should not research their adopted family's heritage. Just be sure to not pass along or include any of the information on themselves as "family". Sounds harsh, but the truth is that Genealogy is truly about Bloodline. We had a situation in our family that involved an adopted person (who did not know they were adopted) supplying information that was erroneous and caused many problems in having people believing and researching the wrong lines. Love and respect your adopted family as I am sure they do you. But please be careful to only pass along bloodline information Wilson Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Carpenter" <mbarker@austin.rr.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > Hi Allison > > I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my husband is > adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband knows his > birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth grandfather, and > his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us and > gave > my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been nothing > but > accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who all > know > he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted > family > that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling > because > they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the family. > When > I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just don't > say > anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never > bring > it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, and has > two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". > All that said, I believe that it really depends on the researcher. > Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are interested in the > entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance between > Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and > connecting. > If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the ones who > are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. > > Martha Carpenter > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > > >> Hi Nova, >> >> I have a question to ask the list. I was lucky enough to have the >> genealogy of my father's family done for me by an uncle years before I >> was >> born. I had always been interested in family history because it was >> there >> for me to know. My father's family had been on the Mississippi Coast >> (Biloxi) since D'Iberville landed. >> >> Nobody had done research on my mother's family, which is from New >> Orleans. >> My mother is adopted and there in comes the issue. My mother did not >> want >> me to pursue her biological family. My grandmother adopted three little >> girls, from the Protestant Home for Babies, in New Orleans. I even have >> mother's adoption papers with her birth mother's name listed. But none >> of >> the sisters have expressed any interest in their biological roots. >> However, they were eager for me to do research on their adopted family. >> Which I have done, with some measure of success. >> >> Apparently adoption is a volatile subject in genealogy. Recently, I have >> had two "cousins" stop corresponding with me as soon as they found out my >> mother was adopted. This has occurred within the last 6 months. >> >> I don't really know how to feel about this, it is quite upsetting. I >> dared not tell my mother or her sisters, because I would never say or do >> anything that would shame them about their adoption. >> >> Closer family members have done nothing but encourage me in my research. >> But I have had the snub happen before when I first started doing >> research, >> about six years ago. >> >> Can someone educate me about the prevailing attitude toward adoptees in >> genealogy? Are these snubs common for adoptees? Am I wrong in thinking >> that my mother's adopted family is just as legitimate as blood? I have >> and would never claim any type of heritage for joining associations like >> the DAR or their like. My grandmother was a great lady, and she chose my >> mother and her sisters to be her family, I don't see why we can't be her >> family too. >> >> Thank you for your consideration of this matter. >> >> Allison Eleuterius Bartsch >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lisa,? Some of my Petersons lived in Algiers. Jan in S.E. TX romayor2@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: MyKithNkin <mykithnkin@aol.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 2:19 pm Subject: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call Main lines (mainly Westbank/Algiers, but some marriage connections on Eastbank and Jefferson Parish) Spellman Nolan Peterson Roache Shaw (related by marriage to Archbishop John Shaw) Burkett McLean Aikman Clasen Stenger Dubret Will email "related lines" later (Not at home) thanks, Lisa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Walsh, John b. ca 1810 Ireland, died New Orleans > --------------------1860 laborer in New Orleans Walsh, Bridgit - wife to John b. ca 1841 in Ireland, died in New Orleans - 2nd wife??? Walsh, Patrick b. ca 1839-1840 in Ireland 1860 in New Orleans son of John nd Bridgit??? Died in Greer Co., Ok.Was in Confederate service doe Louisiana. Married Ella Dunn. Any additional information would be appreciated. Wilson-Bandy in TX ed in ----------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Broussards and Trahans to gather; Harding Field subject of new book •     By DAMON VEACH      •     Published: Mar 23, 2008 - UPDATED: 12:05 a.m. Two important events are coming up in Acadiana that will interest genealogical researchers. The first one is a special gathering of the Broussard and Trahan Family Associations. They will co-host a gathering in Maurice on April 26 at the Woodmen of World Hall. This gathering will commence at 9:30 a.m. and last until about 1:30 p.m. On the agenda will be a presentation by Donald Arceneaux on Broussard Spanish land grants and locations, a DNA presentation by Loubert Trahan concerning individual DNA Tests for the Acadian Genealogical Database, and a discussion by Gerard-Marc Braud of Nantes, France, on his newest writing on the Acadians who were deported to France, those who stayed in France and those who sailed to Louisiana on the Seven Ships of 1785. There is no admittance charge, and individuals are not required to be members of either family. The only cost will be to those who will eat following the gathering. The cost of that meal will be $10 per person over age 10. Children under 10 will eat free. The second event involves the Confederation of Associations of Families Acadian and is very important. CAFA will give a partial scholarship of $1,000 for a student to attend a five-week French immersion class this summer at St. Ann University in Church Point, Nova Scotia, Canada. This summer session runs July 6-Aug. 9. Each Acadian family that has membership in CAFA is permitted to submit a name to CAFA for consideration. Some of the member families include Thibodeaux, Boudreaux, Landry, Broussard, Trahan, Leger, etc. The student must be between 15 and 25. The student must commit to attend and complete the five-week class and is responsible to pay the difference in tuition, transportation to and from St. Ann, and other incidental expenses. Once all names are submitted to CAFA, the CAFA officers will draw one name out of a hat, and that person will be awarded the scholarship. Failure to comply with the above will mean forfeiture of the scholarship, and the money will have to be returned to CAFA. The deadline to submit your name to CAFA is May 26. The name of the student must be submitted and signed by the family organization officers and submitted to Ray Trahan, CAFA President, 230 Gumbo Road, Lafayette, LA 70508. Call after a few days to make sure it was received. Any names received after May 26 will not be considered. Those phone numbers are (337) 856-1620 or (337) 288-2681. Mitch Conover worked in promoting these events. Harding Field tales “The Heroes of Harding Field, Baton Rouge” talk will provide eyewitness accounts of activities from stories and interviews with the veterans of Harding Field from 1941 to 1945. The talk will be presented at 10 a.m. Saturday, April 19, at Bluebonnet Regional Branch Library, 9200 Bluebonnet Blvd. The talk will be given by William A. Spedale, author and historian. Sponsored by the Baton Rouge Genealogical and Historical Society, more information can be found at http://brghs.blogspot.com/ or call (225) 769-6444. Also taking place at the Bluebonnet Library at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday, March 26, is a session on learning how to use Heritage Quest. This is a free database that can assist in ancestral research. This class will demonstrate how to find genealogy periodicals and how to make the most of them in a genealogical search. Genealogy librarian Cassie Fedrick will also offer quick tips to hone your research for productive results. Registration is required and limited to 25. For more information or to register, call (225) 763-2283. The right form The Family History Research Toolkit contains forms and charts that are essential for genealogical research. Designed to meet the basic needs of the family historian, the forms can be printed as blank forms for onsite research or filled in and printed or saved for permanent storage. Each form has space for full source citations and each has been created as an Adobe PDF form. Below is a list of forms included on this CD. In addition to the standard genealogical forms such as the pedigree chart, family group record, research log, and notes pages, this CD includes a number of charts of the author’s own design, each one formatted for source citations in the style recommended by Elizabeth Shown Mills in her seminal book Evidence!. Basic Genealogy Forms include: Family Group Record, Pedigree Chart, and Research Log. Census Extraction Forms are: 1850 census, 1860 census, 1870 census 1880 census, 1900 census, 1910 census, 1920 census and 1930 census. The Household Tracker Forms include: 1790-1840, 1850-1870, and 1880-1900. The final category of forms are under the miscellaneous category and include: census neighbors, land history, metes and bounds, probate extraction, household estimator, and notes, which includes book, microfilm, and internet references. The compiler of this material, Michael Hait, believes that these forms provide a unique and effective system of research that will be invaluable to genealogists of every experience level. It must be noted, however, that Adobe Acrobat Reader® 8 or higher is needed to access this CD. If your local genealogical library or society does not furnish these forms, this CD is an ideal way to obtain the forms you need for organizing your research material. In fact, there are several forms here that are new and could aid in improving research techniques by recording notes not usually considered important enough to keep. However, in genealogical research, it has long been known that all notes are important, and even the slightest clue may be the one thing to lead to a final conclusion in a family research problem. The CD is available for $ from Genealogical Publishing Company, 3600 Clipper Mill Road, Suite 260, Baltimore, MD 21211. Contact Damon Veach Correspondence to this column should be sent to Damon Veach, Louisiana Ancestors, Sunday Advocate Magazine, P.O. Box 588, Baton Rouge, LA 70821 or at ancestorslaveach@cox.net. ************** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)