Sorry to the list, hit the button too soon. To _eulafd@bellsouth.net_ (mailto:eulafd@bellsouth.net) : Among the names that you have on your list in common with me are: Delhomme Delery Deglapion I would love to compare notes. Thanks NT _jcntsmith@aol.com_ (mailto:jcntsmith@aol.com) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
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Springer Templet Strouder Bodin Graf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Fisher" <jzamboni@cox.net> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Names > Working on the following: > Dettwiller > Selle > Toepfer > Bechtel or Bechtal > McCabe Ireland, New Orleans,La Miss. > McGoey(Longord, Ire,New Orleans, La. Biloxi,Gulfport,Waveland,Miss. > Maurer > D'Albando or D'Albarado > Satter > Malloy > Wilbur > Clade > Heck > Mansuy > Gullung > Manger > Venturine > Cox Mobile, Ala. > Selby, England,NewYork toNew Orleans to the Gulf area of Miss. > Fisher > Kruetz > Brothers > Extine > McKeon > > Iam not at home will add more. Judy Fisher > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JCNTSmith@aol.com> > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:28 AM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Names > > >> My names are: >> Trepagnier >> Rivard >> de Mirebaize de Villemont >> de Glapion >> de L'Homme/Delhomme >> Esneault/Esnault >> Thiberville >> Brou >> Bourgeois >> Haydel >> Dubord >> Bienvenu >> Bar/Barre >> Burelle >> Caron >> Hardencourt/Hardoncourt >> >> I have researched some of these families from Quebec to Mobile to New >> Orleans, St Charles & St John Parishes. In the above names I also have >> family from >> Illinois to Louisiana, from Haiti to Louisiana and from Baton Rouge to >> New >> Orleans. >> >> I would love to share any information I can and receive information. >> >> NT >> _jcntsmith@aol.com_ (mailto:jcntsmith@aol.com) >> >> >> >> >> **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel >> Guides. >> >> (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Carolyn, that is priceless! Thanks so much for telling us. Judy From: ctregre7@cox.net Sent: Sat 4/5/2008 10:53 AM To: ZORLEANS MESSAGE BD Subject: [LAORLEAN] MY FAVORITE ADOPTED CHILD STORY My friend, Gee, has three children, two adopted one natural. These children are all adults, the eldest, Buddy, is about 43 years old. Recently, Buddy had to have a series of medical tests. They decided that Gee would accompany Buddy to the doctor for the tests (two heads are better than one). At the first visit, the doctor had Gee stay in the waiting room while he had his first visit with Buddy. After they left the doctor's office, Gee asked Buddy what the doctor did. Buddy said he took a complete history . Gee asked what Buddy told the doctor and and Buddy said I told him about maw-maw and paw-paw and all their health history. Gee was astonished, "Buddy, you can't give maw-maw and paw-paw's health history--you are adopted and no blood relative of theirs." Then Buddy (age 43), slapped his forehead and said--Darn!! I forgot that. Now thats a set of adoptive parents who can stand up and take a bow. Carolyn Tregre ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
My friend, Gee, has three children, two adopted one natural. These children are all adults, the eldest, Buddy, is about 43 years old. Recently, Buddy had to have a series of medical tests. They decided that Gee would accompany Buddy to the doctor for the tests (two heads are better than one). At the first visit, the doctor had Gee stay in the waiting room while he had his first visit with Buddy. After they left the doctor's office, Gee asked Buddy what the doctor did. Buddy said he took a complete history . Gee asked what Buddy told the doctor and and Buddy said I told him about maw-maw and paw-paw and all their health history. Gee was astonished, "Buddy, you can't give maw-maw and paw-paw's health history--you are adopted and no blood relative of theirs." Then Buddy (age 43), slapped his forehead and said--Darn!! I forgot that. Now thats a set of adoptive parents who can stand up and take a bow. Carolyn Tregre
Some of the genealogy sites,{ I think Putnam County,Ohio was one,} allow researchers to register the names they are researching, and how to contact each other. Perhaps, something could be added to the archives that would allow us to do the same. Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: RHB <bennettrh@earthlink.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2008 12:40:01 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] roll call It would be nice if someone "out there" who is handy with formatting spread sheets could make a list of everyone who has submitted these names, arrange us and our names alphabetically and then post it somewhere... do we have an LAORLEAN website somewhere [Ancestry? Myfamily?].... that way it would be easy to read and readily available. Or save as a pdf formatted document which could be mailed out upon request. Or maybe someone might have a better idea of how to record and store all our names.... Renee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
What a great story! Thanks for sharing. That's what I love about my Family tree research. The dates, places and other documentation is exciting when we first come across them, but the real history; stories that are the heart of the family is what keeps me interested and what I think future generations will appreciate the most. Remember when we were in school and our teachers were trying to sink history into our brains? Don't you think if we had been taught in a way that included our families participation, their daily lives in different periods of history we would have paid more attention? I know I would have, because now I can't get enough of it. Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: Carolyn Long <carolynlong@earthlink.net> To: Orleans Parish listserve <LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2008 1:22:40 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] the rest of my adoption story Yesterday I told the list about my adoption and the secretive attitude of my adoptive parents--by which I really meant my adoptive mother, Louise. I had been in contact with my birth mother, Marianna, since 1977, and had visited her and met my half-siblings (although Marianna was from Jacksonville, Florida, all of them had resettled in California). When Louise died in 1980 I finally told my adoptive father the story. He was so interested in it, and I gave him Marianna's address and suggested that he write to her. Pretty soon they were corresponding and talking on the phone, and eventually they met and fell in love. My 78-year-old Daddy sold his house in South Georgia, packed a few belongings in his car, and drove to California, where he and Marianna were married. Unfortunately, Daddy died of emphysema a few years later, but I think it was really a positive experience for both of them, and it certainly was for me. --- Carolyn Long --- carolynlong@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Who in the world told you we were grown-ups? LOL Glad you could make it. This is a fantastic group. Best on the Web. -------Original Message------- From: patcwpilgrim@juno.com Date: 4/5/2008 10:59:43 AM To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] posting Thanks to everyone who helped me in being able to post on the web address. Some wonderful people figured out my problem and now I can post with the grown-ups! LOL Pat _____________________________________________________________ Love Graphic Design? Find a school near you. Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigksgPVU5WIRHt6wHv0orWrB1sX6wxodCEQTPlm2aMWfOWlD/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Does this mean, that we should not include in our Family Tree's, people like: Gr Gr Gr Gr Gr Grandpa's 1st wife, because she died very young in child birth; or Gr Gr Aunt Jane's 1st husband because he died in the Civil War before they had children? Or her third husband who stepped in a took care of her, and raised her children? All members of the family are threads to the grand design of the tapestry of our history! Genealogy is for most, research into our families' past. In most genealogy programs there is a section that you can include information describing the relationship whether it be natural, adopted, step, etc. What a shame it would be not to include all of our family branches into our trees! Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: Wilson <redhangar@charter.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 6:41:42 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy I don't believe that it is fair to call someone a "bloodline snob". Many researchers are looking for their heritage - which is bloodline. Genealogy research, as its very nature is bloodline. Some want to join heritage organizations, others just want the information. I see no reason that an adopted person should not research their adopted family's heritage. Just be sure to not pass along or include any of the information on themselves as "family". Sounds harsh, but the truth is that Genealogy is truly about Bloodline. We had a situation in our family that involved an adopted person (who did not know they were adopted) supplying information that was erroneous and caused many problems in having people believing and researching the wrong lines. Love and respect your adopted family as I am sure they do you. But please be careful to only pass along bloodline information Wilson Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Carpenter" <mbarker@austin.rr.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > Hi Allison > > I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my husband is > adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband knows his > birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth grandfather, and > his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us and > gave > my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been nothing > but > accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who all > know > he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted > family > that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling > because > they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the family. > When > I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just don't > say > anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never > bring > it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, and has > two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". > All that said, I believe that it really depends on the researcher. > Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are interested in the > entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance between > Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and > connecting. > If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the ones who > are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. > > Martha Carpenter > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > > >> Hi Nova, >> >> I have a question to ask the list. I was lucky enough to have the >> genealogy of my father's family done for me by an uncle years before I >> was >> born. I had always been interested in family history because it was >> there >> for me to know. My father's family had been on the Mississippi Coast >> (Biloxi) since D'Iberville landed. >> >> Nobody had done research on my mother's family, which is from New >> Orleans. >> My mother is adopted and there in comes the issue. My mother did not >> want >> me to pursue her biological family. My grandmother adopted three little >> girls, from the Protestant Home for Babies, in New Orleans. I even have >> mother's adoption papers with her birth mother's name listed. But none >> of >> the sisters have expressed any interest in their biological roots. >> However, they were eager for me to do research on their adopted family. >> Which I have done, with some measure of success. >> >> Apparently adoption is a volatile subject in genealogy. Recently, I have >> had two "cousins" stop corresponding with me as soon as they found out my >> mother was adopted. This has occurred within the last 6 months. >> >> I don't really know how to feel about this, it is quite upsetting. I >> dared not tell my mother or her sisters, because I would never say or do >> anything that would shame them about their adoption. >> >> Closer family members have done nothing but encourage me in my research. >> But I have had the snub happen before when I first started doing >> research, >> about six years ago. >> >> Can someone educate me about the prevailing attitude toward adoptees in >> genealogy? Are these snubs common for adoptees? Am I wrong in thinking >> that my mother's adopted family is just as legitimate as blood? I have >> and would never claim any type of heritage for joining associations like >> the DAR or their like. My grandmother was a great lady, and she chose my >> mother and her sisters to be her family, I don't see why we can't be her >> family too. >> >> Thank you for your consideration of this matter. >> >> Allison Eleuterius Bartsch >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. 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I agree. What's a grown up? And, I also belong to the McLaughlin list. The past few days they have criticized each other, warned the list about other members and all because some shared information and did get 'enough' in return...whew...whining, whining and not nice. In the discussion of blood over choice, I'll share another issue that came to me a few times. My mother's father was from Avoyelles Parish. Now, that parish doesn't have a monopoly on this, but there was, in previous generations, a not 'uncommon' occurance of children born of white owners and household help or farm workers. To some credit, the stories I heard from my mother (I'm 64) and others her generation is that these children were raised along with the owner's children, sharing SOME, but not all, of the advantages, at least medical and often, education. They were NOT publically acknowledged as their 'children' but were cared for. I have had, a few times, someone call me from those lines and say...I am the granddaugther or g-grandson of XXXXX, that I see on your genealogy is your grandfather or g-grandfather. Okay...I had no problem with that and told them all, if you can provide me the proof of that linage, I will add you to my genealogy wherever you belong. I wouldn't put there anything that I wasn't certain of, not mine or theirs, but with some proof, like you would any line, I would have gladly done that. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has experienced this, and to me, it was kinda cool. :>) At 11:02 AM 4/5/2008 -0400, you wrote: >Who in the world told you we were grown-ups? LOL >Glad you could make it. This is a fantastic group. >Best on the Web. > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: patcwpilgrim@juno.com >Date: 4/5/2008 10:59:43 AM >To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com >Subject: [LAORLEAN] posting > >Thanks to everyone who helped me in being able to post on the web address. >Some wonderful people figured out my problem and now I can post with the >grown-ups! LOL Pat >_____________________________________________________________ >Love Graphic Design? Find a school near you. Click Now. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno >com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigksgPVU5WIRHt6wHv0orWrB1sX6wxodCEQTPlm2aMWfOWlD/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 >7:53 AM
Penny, Perfect, especially since that's how I ALWAYS described it to my chosen ones. I have always told them that they have the right to know who their birth parents are, but they DO NOT have the right to ring a doorbell and announce who they are. Some of my friends are birth parents and it was an very tough decision to make. Everyone has a different opinion about this, really don't think blood is anymore special than skin color, now is it? Again, just my personal opinion. You tend to be a bit defensive if you are a parent or a child involved in "choosing" your precious ones. I have had people tell me that they were not interested in the info on my adopted ones, cause they really don't count and are not that important. My answer is always, "well, gee, guess you get no info". I don't care what you do with the info, but don't tell me that my children, my father, are not important and that's what I hear being said. Has nothing to do with blood. These are all my opinions. Opinions are sorta like heads, everyone has one. Jan S - Orlando -------Original Message------- From: PB Delery Date: 4/4/2008 11:39:59 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy How about "Chosen" instead of adopted? Penny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverty Morris" <bevart@frontiernet.net> Hello, . . . By the way, I wish some one would come up with a better name than "adopted". When my children were adopted their birth parents were called "biological parents". Birth parents sounds so nice, but "adoptive" doesn't sound good to me; after all you can adopt a pet. Bev in Calif. PA native ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
With all the postings concerning Orphanages and Convents, I thought I'd share this list of Asylums and Convents and their locations from a book I have called "Historical Sketch Book and Guide to New Orleans and Environs" Exposition Edition ~ New Orleans Press ~1885. Asylum For Destitute Orphan Boys - St Charles, between Dufossat and Bellecastl{Jefferson City} Beauregard Asylum - Pauline, between St Claude and N. Rampart Boys' House of Refuge - Metarie Road, between Bienville and Conti Children's Home, Protestant Episcopal - Jackson, corner of St. Thomas Convent De St. Famille - 172 Hospital Convent of Mt Carmel - Olivier, corner of Eliza {Algiers} Convent of the Benedictine Nuns - 630 Dauphine, between St Ferdinand and Press Convent of the Good Shepherd - Bienville, between North Dolhonde and North Broad Convent of the Redemtorists -Constance, between St Andrew and Josephine Convent of the Sacred Heart - 96 Dumaine Convent of Perpetual Adoration - Marais, between Mandeville and Spain Convent of the Sisters of Notre Dame - Laurel, between St andrew and Josephine Convent of the Sisters of the Holy Family - 17 Orleans Female Asylum of the Immaculate Conception - 871 North Rampart, corner of Elmira Faith Home for the Aged and Destitute - Pitt, corner of Robert Fink Home - Camp, between Antonine and Amelia German Protestant Asylum - State, between Camp and Chestnut {Burtheville} Girod Asylum - Metarie Road, between Conti and St. Louis Home for the Aged and Infirm - Annunciation, corner Calliope Home for the Aged and Infirm - North Johnson, corner of Laharpe Home for the Aged and Destitute - Magnolia, corner of Laharpe House of the Sisters and Christian Charity - Constance, between Berlin and Milan House of Refuge for Destitute Girls - Annunciation, corner of Calliope House of the Good Shepherd - Bienville, between North Dolhonde and North Broad Indigent Colored Orphan Asylum - 393 Dauphine Industrial School and Model Farm of Our Lady of the Holy Cross - North Peterson, corner of Reynes Jewish Widows' and Orphan Asylum - Jackson, corner of Chippewa Little Sisters of the Poor - North Johnson, corner of Laharpe Louisiana Retreat Insane Asylum - Nashville, corner of Magazine. Conducted ny the Sisters of Charity Monastery Discalced Carmelites - Barracks, between Burgundy and Rampart Mt Carmel Convent - 200 Hospital Mt Carmel Female Orphan Asylum - 53 Piety New Orleans Female Orphan Asylum - Clio, between Camp and Prytania Protestant Episcopal Poydras Orphan Asylum for Females - Magazine, between Leontine and Peters Avenue, Jefferson Protestant Orphans Home - Seventh, corner of Constance Providence Asylum for Colored Female Children - Hospital - corner of North Tonti Societe Francaise De Bienfaisance Asylum - St. Ann, between North Dergigny and North Roman St Alphonsus Convent of Mercy - St Andrew, between Constance and Magazine St Alphonsus Orphan Asylum - Fourth, corner of St Patrick St Ann's Asylum - Prytania, corner of St Mary St Elizabeth Orphan Asylum - Napoleon avenue, corner of Prytania; branch, Magazine corner of Josephine St Henry's Convent - Constance, between Milan and Berlin St Joseph's Convent - St Phillip, corner of North Galvez St Joseph's Orphan Asylum - Josephine, corner of Laurel. Under the direction of the Sisters of Mercy St Mary's Dominican Convent - Dryades, corner of Calliope; branch, St Charles, between Broadway and Upper Line St Mary's Orphan Boys' Asylum - Chartres, between Mazant and French avenue St Mater Dolorosa Convent - Cambronne, corner of Third {Carrollton} St Patricks Convent of Mercy - 139 Magazine St Vincent's Half-Orphan Asylum - Cambronne, between Second and Burthe {Carrollton} St Vincent's Home for Destitute Boys - 371 Bienville St Vincent's Infant Orphan Asylum - Magazine, corner of Race Ursuline Convent - North Peters, near Manuel Widow's and Orphan's Father Turgis Asylum {for widows and orphans of the South} St claude, corner of Pauline Penny T ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Martha, Just wanted to say that your answer, I think, was right on target. My daughter is adopted and will fight anyone who says she is not fully and completely part of our family. Of course she does work with foster and adopted children so understands the feelings a whole lot better than most. Given the opportunity to try and locate her "birth mother", she said no, it was not important and she just wanted to thank her. So everyone is different. My other adopted son knows his parents, but has not seen or contacted them in about 25+ years. Says they are not important anymore. I would also have to question, that unless someone wants to join some bloodline group what difference it could make, but that is just me. My father's birth record is no where to be found, and an old family bible was used to get a death certificate back in 1958, so since that bible records stated the following: A. P. Baumgartner married Bertie Byrd about 1911. H. L. Baumgartner was born about 1906" should I assume that he was adopted, born "out of wedlock", or a child of another man? Do I leave my father off of my tree, NO, I do not. Does this make me any less connected to New Orleans where A. P. was born? Leaving various ancestors out can really be complicated. Do what feels right for you. If you find some "adopted" or "born out of wedlock" ancestors, do what you want with that info. It is not necessary to announce the fact. For me, family is family is family. But then I have (2) bloodline children, (2) adopted children (4) bloodline grandchildren and (3) grandchildren of adopted children and 3 adopted children of adopted children. Did you get all that???? Do I love any of them differently? What do you think. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Martha Carpenter Date: 4/4/2008 7:28:16 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy Hi Allison I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my husband is adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband knows his birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth grandfather, and his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us and gave my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been nothing but accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who all know he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted family that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling because they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the family. When I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just don't say anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never bring it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, and has two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". All that said, I believe that it really depends on the researcher. Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are interested in the entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance between Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and connecting. If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the ones who are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. Martha Carpenter
My names are: Trepagnier Rivard de Mirebaize de Villemont de Glapion de L'Homme/Delhomme Esneault/Esnault Thiberville Brou Bourgeois Haydel Dubord Bienvenu Bar/Barre Burelle Caron Hardencourt/Hardoncourt I have researched some of these families from Quebec to Mobile to New Orleans, St Charles & St John Parishes. In the above names I also have family from Illinois to Louisiana, from Haiti to Louisiana and from Baton Rouge to New Orleans. I would love to share any information I can and receive information. NT _jcntsmith@aol.com_ (mailto:jcntsmith@aol.com) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
Working on the following: Dettwiller Selle Toepfer Bechtel or Bechtal McCabe Ireland, New Orleans,La Miss. McGoey(Longord, Ire,New Orleans, La. Biloxi,Gulfport,Waveland,Miss. Maurer D'Albando or D'Albarado Satter Malloy Wilbur Clade Heck Mansuy Gullung Manger Venturine Cox Mobile, Ala. Selby, England,NewYork toNew Orleans to the Gulf area of Miss. Fisher Kruetz Brothers Extine McKeon Iam not at home will add more. Judy Fisher ----- Original Message ----- From: <JCNTSmith@aol.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Names > My names are: > Trepagnier > Rivard > de Mirebaize de Villemont > de Glapion > de L'Homme/Delhomme > Esneault/Esnault > Thiberville > Brou > Bourgeois > Haydel > Dubord > Bienvenu > Bar/Barre > Burelle > Caron > Hardencourt/Hardoncourt > > I have researched some of these families from Quebec to Mobile to New > Orleans, St Charles & St John Parishes. In the above names I also have > family from > Illinois to Louisiana, from Haiti to Louisiana and from Baton Rouge to > New > Orleans. > > I would love to share any information I can and receive information. > > NT > _jcntsmith@aol.com_ (mailto:jcntsmith@aol.com) > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Jan, you are a good person and great mother. Since we met on line through laorlean@rootsweb.com about 3 years ago we have developed a personal friendship as I have with others on the list. What a wonderful way to meet people and welcome them into your heart and home. Merle Jan Strickland wrote: > Martha, Just wanted to say that your answer, I think, was right on > target. > > My daughter is adopted and will fight anyone who says she > is not fully and completely part of our family. Of course she does > work with foster and adopted children so understands the feelings > a whole lot better than most. Given the opportunity to try and > locate her "birth mother", she said no, it was not important and > she just wanted to thank her. So everyone is different. My other > adopted son knows his parents, but has not seen or contacted > them in about 25+ years. Says they are not important anymore. > > I would also have to question, that unless someone wants to join > some bloodline group what difference it could make, but that is just > me. My father's birth record is no where to be found, and an old > family bible was used to get a death certificate back in 1958, so since > that bible records stated the following: A. P. Baumgartner married > Bertie Byrd about 1911. H. L. Baumgartner was born about 1906" > should I assume that he was adopted, born "out of wedlock", or a > child of another man? Do I leave my father off of my tree, NO, I do not. > Does this make me any less connected to New Orleans where A. P. > was born? > > Leaving various ancestors out can really be complicated. Do what > feels right for you. If you find some "adopted" or "born out of wedlock" > ancestors, do what you want with that info. It is not necessary to announce > the fact. > For me, family is family is family. > But then I have (2) bloodline children, (2) adopted children > (4) bloodline grandchildren and (3) grandchildren of adopted children > and 3 adopted children of adopted children. Did you get all that???? > Do I love any of them differently? What do you think. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Martha Carpenter > Date: 4/4/2008 7:28:16 PM > To: laorlean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > > Hi Allison > > I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my husband is > adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband knows his > birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth grandfather, and > his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us and gave > my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been nothing but > accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who all know > he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted family > that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling because > they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the family. When > I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just don't say > > anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never bring > it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, and has > two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". > All that said, I believe that it really depends on the researcher. > Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are interested in the > entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance between > Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and connecting. > If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the ones who > are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. > > Martha Carpenter > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Well said, Martha! Very nice. On 4/4/08, Martha Carpenter <mbarker@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > Hi Allison > > I have double that situation. My father is adopted and my husband is > adopted. We know both my fathers birth parents and my husband knows his > birth mother. My dad, who is 68, actually met his birth grandfather, and > his uncle and his wife and son. They were very pleased to meet us and > gave > my father alot of information. My dads adopted family has been nothing > but > accepting of him and is even called son by most of his family, who all > know > he is adopted. The only issue is that I just don't tell the adopted > family > that I am researching the birth family. It would hurt their feeling > because > they just don't concidered him differant from the rest of the > family. When > I talk to extended family researchers from the adopted line I just don't > say > anything about him being adopted. If they don't already know I never > bring > it up. My dad has the same name as my grandfather, is the oldest, and has > two sibling who where not adopted so it all "seems normal". > All that said, I believe that it really depends on the researcher. > Some are what I call "real bloodline snobs". Others are interested in the > entire family, whatever the family was. To me it is a differance between > Family History and Family Lineage. I say keep researching and > connecting. > If they choice to be rude than that is their lose. They are the ones who > are missing out on stories of family, courage, and love. > > Martha Carpenter > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allison Bartsch" <rb1000@hotmail.com> > To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 PM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] adoption & genealogy > > > > Hi Nova, > > > > I have a question to ask the list. I was lucky enough to have the > > genealogy of my father's family done for me by an uncle years before I > was > > born. I had always been interested in family history because it was > there > > for me to know. My father's family had been on the Mississippi Coast > > (Biloxi) since D'Iberville landed. > > > > Nobody had done research on my mother's family, which is from New > Orleans. > > My mother is adopted and there in comes the issue. My mother did not > want > > me to pursue her biological family. My grandmother adopted three little > > girls, from the Protestant Home for Babies, in New Orleans. I even have > > mother's adoption papers with her birth mother's name listed. But none > of > > the sisters have expressed any interest in their biological roots. > > However, they were eager for me to do research on their adopted family. > > Which I have done, with some measure of success. > > > > Apparently adoption is a volatile subject in genealogy. Recently, I > have > > had two "cousins" stop corresponding with me as soon as they found out > my > > mother was adopted. This has occurred within the last 6 months. > > > > I don't really know how to feel about this, it is quite upsetting. I > > dared not tell my mother or her sisters, because I would never say or do > > anything that would shame them about their adoption. > > > > Closer family members have done nothing but encourage me in my research. > > But I have had the snub happen before when I first started doing > research, > > about six years ago. > > > > Can someone educate me about the prevailing attitude toward adoptees in > > genealogy? Are these snubs common for adoptees? Am I wrong in thinking > > that my mother's adopted family is just as legitimate as blood? I have > > and would never claim any type of heritage for joining associations like > > the DAR or their like. My grandmother was a great lady, and she chose > my > > mother and her sisters to be her family, I don't see why we can't be her > > family too. > > > > Thank you for your consideration of this matter. > > > > Allison Eleuterius Bartsch > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Dear Jan: ?? My one Peterson is a HUGE brickwall for me.? He was my gg-grandfather, Martin Peterson.? I have his citizenship papers and he was born around 1828 in Sweden.??He married Mary J. Roache (born abt 1835 in Co. Wexford, Ireland) and he died?between May-August 1869 "at sea".? Mary was pregnancy with my g-grandmother, Carrie Peterson and?family story says he died 3-6 months before Carrie was born.? Part of my problem?began with finding Carrie's birth and death Certificates.? Her death cert lists her parents as "Mathew (from Sweden)?and Ellen (from Ireland)".? Well, Ellen is Mary's sister.? When I found her Birth certificate, the information and signature is that of Mary Roache and she lists father as Martin (From Switzerland).? Figure the mother has got to know right?? But his Citizenship papers do list him from Sweden (it's the only Martin Peterson I have been able to find, so I believe this is the right one." With him dying "at sea"....I am at a lost as to how to go about finding what happened to him, and of course "Peterson" in Sweden is like Smith and Jones here. Any help appreciated, Lisa -----Original Message----- From: romayor2@aol.com To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 4:29 pm Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call Lisa,? Some of my Petersons lived in Algiers. Jan in S.E. TX romayor2@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: MyKithNkin <mykithnkin@aol.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 2:19 pm Subject: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call Main lines (mainly Westbank/Algiers, but some marriage connections on Eastbank and Jefferson Parish) Spellman Nolan Peterson Roache Shaw (related by marriage to Archbishop John Shaw) Burkett McLean Aikman Clasen Stenger Dubret Will email "related lines" later (Not at home) thanks, Lisa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have a Lynch(lady) who married a McGoey here in New Orleans, La. This Lynch was from Westmeath, Ireland. Judy Fisher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Atwood" <atwood.too@gmail.com> To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call 2008 > My New Orleans surnames: > > > Meyers (German origins) - to US early/mid 1800s????? > > > Minning (German origins) - to US 1850s > > > Cearns ( Kearns Kerns ? ? ? ) (Irish origins) - to US ? > > > Child / Childe - in NOLA before 1840 > > > Lynch - to US about 1840s; from County Westmeath, Ireland > > > Swanson - Sweden to Illinois 1868 then NOLA about 1890s > > > Ranbarger - original connection to Europe unknown/presume German speaking; > in Kentucky late 1700s; to Illinois about 1830; to NOLA about 1890s > > > Barrett > > Baumiller > > Delatte > > Fisher / Fischer > > Ford > > Hossey / Housey / Hussey > > Koenig > > Kron > > McNeely > > Ray > > Shaughnessy / O'Shaughnessy > > > Many connections to the Salem Evangelical Church from the early decades > > > Thank you! ~Mary in Northern California > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
This is the other part of the family that I am researching/searching TUIT (Belgium, Netherlands) KRUIJT (Belgium, Netherlands) WALLRAFF (Germany) MULLER/MUELLER (Germany) DOUST (England and Australia) HERITAGE (England and Australia) GOUGH (England and Australia) MORRALL (England and Australia) ROSSELL (England and Australia) PAVELY (England and Australia) LUQUETTE (US and beyond) DIAZ (US and beyond) MENDEZ (Us and beyond) HARSELAAR (US and beyond) GILLAM (England and Australia) TURNER (England and Australia) BOGLE (England and Australia) HYMUS (England and Australia) BENNETT (England and Australia) PEARSE (England and Australia) PARADISE (England US and Australia) THOMPSON (England US and Australia) ... and of course anywhere else!! Again with thanks Leonie Tuit Perth, Western Australia