http://www.civilwar.si.edu/soldiering_zuoave.html Zuoave uniforms were rather unusual...could this be it? At 12:25 PM 4/30/2008, you wrote: > >After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen >before, told me she had a lot of old family information. > >I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. > >The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. Cat Donnow http://www.ambiancestudio.com mailto:ambicat@charter.net

If you are having trouble sending the pic, try kodak.com or one of those on-line picture places where all you have to do is send a link for people to go to view it. Penny T --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Not even close. This is not your typical Civil War uniform. I've done a lot of research and can't find anything like it. Barney -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Penny Tveiten Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:26 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform???     Maybe this will help....  Penny T http://www.kidport.com/RefLib/UsaHistory/CivilWar/Uniforms.htm ----- Original Message ---- From: Barney Seely <BSeely@pointeightpower.com> To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:14:01 AM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

http://www.jcs-group.com/military/war1861/uniforms.html This one describes even more varieties. I never realized how many different ones there were. Good topic! Penny T --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

I tried and it got rejected for being to big. Size is limited to 40k Barney -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Blake Relle Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:20 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? Barney, Send an e-mail to the list with the picture in the body so that we can see the uniform. I think the Confederates wore gray. Blake E. Relle brelle@cox.net -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barney Seely Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:14 AM To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

John Seely, Sr. His given name is really Johannes (German), but he changed it about 1858. Barney -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Lockett Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:16 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? What is the name of you great, great grandfather? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barney Seely" <BSeely@pointeightpower.com> To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:14:01 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Barney, Send an e-mail to the list with the picture in the body so that we can see the uniform. I think the Confederates wore gray. Blake E. Relle brelle@cox.net -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barney Seely Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:14 AM To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.civilwarhome.com/uniformsunion.htm This one describes some of the early uniforms. Penny T --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Judy - Sorry to but in. I believe the St. John's records can be found in the office for Hope Mausoleum (it's the first or second - i can't remember - entrance). Nice people. peggy -----Original Message----- >From: Judy Fisher <jzamboni@cox.net> >Sent: Apr 29, 2008 3:17 PM >To: laorlean@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries in 1840 > >Norm, Is the St. John's Lutheran Cemetery records on line any place? Maybe >my Jacob Gullung and Catherine are buried there. The next place would be St. >Vincent since is was close to their home. Judy >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Norm Hellmers" <n_d_hellmers@yahoo.com> >To: <laorlean@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:31 PM >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries in 1840 > > >> Colleen, >> >> I found this list on the Web once. I can't vouch for >> its accuracy without a good bit of checking, but it >> should get you started. What religion was the person? >> By 1840, there were Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish >> cemeteries. >> >> c. 1721 First cemetery built at St. Peter and Burgundy >> in the Quarter >> 1789 St. Louis #1, Basin and Conti Streets >> 1822 Girod St. Cemetery -- First Protestant Cemetery >> (deconsecrated and torn down in 1957) >> 1823 St. Louis #2, Conti St. and Claiborne Ave. >> 1827 Mortuary Chapel of St. Anthony, Conti and N. >> Rampart (now Our Lady of Guadalupe Church) >> 1828 First Jewish cemetery at Jackson and Saratoga >> 1832 Lafayette #1, Washington and Prytania >> 1840 Cypress Grove, Canal St. and City Park Avenue >> 1841 St. Patrick Numbers 1,2,3, 4900 Canal (#1), >> City Park Ave. & Bienville (#2), lake side of >> City Park & Bienville (#3) >> 1844 St. Vincent de Paul, Piety St. >> 1846 Dispersed of Judah, 4900 block Canal St. >> 1847 Charity Hospital Cemetery, 4800 block Canal >> 1849 Odd Fellows Rest, Canal St. and City Park >> Avenue (across from Cypress Grove) >> 1849 Carrollton (Green St.), at the block of Birch, >> Adams, Hickory, Lowerline >> 1852 Greenwood, Canal & City Park (on the lake side) >> 1854 St. Joseph #1, Washington and S. Liberty >> 1854 St. Louis #3 >> 1858 Temmeme Derech, 4800 block Canal >> 1859 St. Vincent, Soniat St. >> 1860 Hebrew Rest, Elysian Fields near Gentilly >> 1865 Masonic Cemetery, Bienville and City Park Ave. >> 1867 Valence St. Cemetery (Valence and Saratoga) >> 1867 St. John Lutheran, 4800 block Canal >> 1872 Metairie Cemetery, Pontchartrain Blvd., and >> Metairie Rd. >> 1874 St. Roch #1 and #2, St. Roch Avenue >> 1879 Holt Cemetery, near City Park Avenue >> 1920s Mount Olivet, Norman Mayer near Gentilly Blvd. >> >> Norm >> >> --- CFitzp@aol.com wrote: >>> I am trying to find out more info on >>> Anne Margaretha Mandler >>> 22y died >>> 23 May 1840 >>> pg 517 vol 8 >>> >>> Can anyone tell me which cemeteries were in >>> existance at that time? She was >>> German. Where would she have been buried? >> . . . >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> Be a better friend, newshound, and >> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, that is the book I have. There is always easier ways of doing things, isn't there?  Penny T ----- Original Message ---- From: Jan Strickland <jans884@bellsouth.net> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:48:07 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries in New Orleans as described in the 1938 CutyGuide ~ The American Guide Series part 1 of 3 Penny, Is this the book that the info came from:  http://www.archive.org/stream/neworleanscity00writmiss/neworleanscity00writmiss_djvu.txt ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Have you tried looking for Seely variations beginning with a C or a Z? ----- Original Message ---- From: Barney Seely <BSeely@pointeightpower.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:21:14 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? John Seely, Sr. His given name is really Johannes (German), but he changed it about 1858. Barney -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Lockett Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:16 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? What is the name of you great, great grandfather? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barney Seely" <BSeely@pointeightpower.com> To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:14:01 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

"The uniforms of the Civil War helped distinguish between the Union soldiers of the North, and the Confederate soldiers from the south. But early in the war, uniforms were provided by states, towns and wealthy individuals. This resulted in a confusing variety of styles and colors on both sides. Over time, blue became the official color for the North and gray for the Confederate uniforms." ----- Original Message ---- From: Barney Seely <BSeely@pointeightpower.com> To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:29:28 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? Not even close. This is not your typical Civil War uniform. I've done a lot of research and can't find anything like it. Barney -----Original Message----- From: laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:laorlean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Penny Tveiten Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:26 PM To: laorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform???     Maybe this will help....  Penny T http://www.kidport.com/RefLib/UsaHistory/CivilWar/Uniforms.htm ----- Original Message ---- From: Barney Seely <BSeely@pointeightpower.com> To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:14:01 AM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

I have just recently started working on my late husband's Irish ancestors. It has been rough going because I only had a few scraps of information to go on and the family seems quite reluctant to share any information. I do know that his paternal grandmother's maiden name was McAllion. I recently learned the names of some of her siblings and have found some US census information that seems a good likelihood of being the correct family. My question is this: In the early censuses right after they immigrated, the family name is spelled McAllen, but then changes to McAllion. Would McAllen in Irish sound like McAllion to an American census taker? I'm trying to determine the most likely spelling in Irish records. I did also learn that one of her brother was born in Donegal. Also, can someone point me to a good explanation of Irish naming tradition? Any help appreciated. Patti in Mississippi All incoming and outgoing mail scanned for viruses by PC-Cillin.

    Maybe this will help....  Penny T http://www.kidport.com/RefLib/UsaHistory/CivilWar/Uniforms.htm ----- Original Message ---- From: Barney Seely <BSeely@pointeightpower.com> To: LAORLEAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:14:01 AM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Civil War Uniform??? After a family reunion two weeks ago, a relative I have never seen before, told me she had a lot of old family information. I have a picture we believe is my Great, Great Grandfather in uniform. The problem is I can't identify the uniform as Confederate, or Union. I have researched the photographer W.W. Washburn and determined that the "Cabinet photo" was taken at his place on 109 Canal Street somewhere between 1865 and 1873. I have yet to find my GG Grandfathers name on any muster list, Confederate, or Union. Can someone possibly identify the uniform and his medals. Thanks Barney ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LAORLEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: St.Vincent de Paul's cemetery Hello List, I think that someone sent us an e-mail about the St.Vincent Cemetery was on our list a few years back. Does anyone have that web site so I may look for my family? Thank You, Judy M. Fisher

April 30, 1803 Louisiana Purchase concluded On April 30, 1803, representatives of the United States and Napoleonic France conclude negotiations for the Louisiana Purchase, a massive land sale that doubles the size of the young American republic. What was known as Louisiana Territory comprised most of modern-day United States between the Mississippi and the Rocky Mountains, with the exceptions of Texas, parts of New Mexico, and other pockets of land already controlled by the United States. A formal treaty for the Louisiana Purchase, antedated to April 30, was signed two days later. Beginning in the 17th century, France explored the Mississippi River valley and established scattered settlements in the region. By the middle of the 18th century, France controlled more of the modern United States than any other European power: from New Orleans northeast to the Great Lakes and northwest to modern-day Montana. In 1762, during the French and Indian War, France ceded its America territory west of the Mississippi River to Spain and in 1763 transferred nearly all of its remaining North American holdings to Great Britain. Spain, no longer a dominant European power, did little to develop Louisiana Territory during the next three decades. In 1796, Spain allied itself with France, leading Britain to use its powerful navy to cut off Spain from America. In 1801, Spain signed a secret treaty with France to return Louisiana Territory to France. Reports of the retrocession caused considerable uneasiness in the United States. Since the late 1780s, Americans had been moving westward into the Ohio and Tennessee River valleys, and these settlers were highly d ependent on free access to the Mississippi River and the strategic port of New Orleans. U.S. officials feared that France, resurgent under the leadership of Napoleon Bonaparte, would soon seek to dominate the Mississippi River and access to the Gulf of Mexico. In a letter to Robert Livingston, the U.S. minister to France, President Thomas Jefferson stated, "The day that France takes possession of New Orleans...we must marry ourselves to the British fleet and nation." Livingston was ordered to negotiate with French minister Charles Maurice de Talleyrand for the purchase of New Orleans. France was slow in taking control of Louisiana, but in 1802 Spanish authorities, apparently acting under French orders, revoked a U.S.-Spanish treaty that granted Americans the right to store goods in New Orleans. In response, President Jefferson sent future president James Monroe to Paris to aid Livingston in the New Orleans purchase talks. On April 11, 1803, the day before Monroe's arrival, Talleyrand asked a surprised Livingston what the United States would give for all of Louisiana Territory. It is believed that the failure of France to put down a slave revolution in Haiti, the impending war with Great Britain and probable Royal Navy blockade of France, and financial difficulties may all have prompted Napoleon to offer Louisiana for sale to the United States. Negotiations moved swiftly, and at the end of April the U.S. envoys agreed to pay $11,250,000 and assumed claims of its citizens against France in the amount of $3,750,000. In exchange, the United States acquired the vast domain of Louisiana Territory, some 828,000 square miles of land. In October, Congress ratified the purchase, and in December 1803 France formally transferred authority over the region to the United States. The acquisition of the Louisiana Territory for the bargain price of less than three cents an acre was Thomas Jeffe rson's most notable achievement as president. American expansion westward into the new lands began immediately, and in 1804 a territorial government was established. On April 30, 1812, exactly nine years after the Louisiana Purchase agreement was made, the first of 13 states to be carved from the territory--Louisiana--was admitted into the Union as the 18th U.S. state. ************** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Hi Julia, Have you looked at the St. Louis City Directories for the 1840s? Maybe you can find out more about the Mandlers from them. Colleen **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Colleen Fitpatrick suggested I subscibe to this list and enquire about my Mandler/Mantler family in New Orleans between 1839 and 1840. Johann George Mantler and his wife Maria, and 5 children arrived in New Orleans Nov. 23, 1839 aboard the Julia from Germany. They were from Launpach, Frankfort-on-the- Main. They were from an Evangelical Parish there. The oldest daughter, Anne Margaretha Mandler died in New Orleans May 23, 1840 (from the New Orleans death records). Supposedly the mother died in St. Louis 1839, and the father died in St. Louis 1849. I believe these dates are off, because the same source had the family arriving in 1837-1838. I am hoping to find further information on them in New Orleans since they were there for over a year at the least. I can place at least one daughter, Maria Catherine, my grgrgrandmother in St. Louis in 1844. I can then track the surviving children from marriage to death. I have not found the family in 1840 census. I have nothing on the parents after their arrival. Colleen thought someone in New Orleans would be able to check on the surname for me? I would greatly appreciate it! Maybe I can find something further on Anne Margaretha.

Julie, The time between the records you have, the arrival of the family in New Orleans on 23 November 1839 and the death of Anne Margaretha Mandler at age 22 on 23 May 1840, appears to be six months. How do you know they were in New Orleans for over a year? To my knowledge, these families that were making their way north did not stay in New Orleans very long. By 1840, there were only three German-language Protestant congregations in New Orleans. There are no available death records for two. Your Anne Margaretha Mandler is not listed in the few available death records for the third. Do you have a copy of the death record for Anne Margaretha Mandler? Can you tell us the information on it, such as where the death occurred or the address of the informant? Just curious -- I can't find Launpach as a place name on the Web. Is the correct place of origin? Norm --- julierowe@mchsi.com wrote: . . . > Johann George > Mantler and his wife Maria, and 5 children arrived > in New Orleans Nov. 23, > 1839 aboard the Julia from Germany. They were from > Launpach, Frankfort-on-the- > Main. They were from an Evangelical Parish there. > The oldest daughter, Anne > Margaretha Mandler died in New Orleans May 23, 1840 > (from the New Orleans > death records). . . . > I am hoping to find further information > on them in New Orleans since they were there for > over a year at the least. . . . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ