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    1. [LAORLEAN] September 2010 Roll Call
    2. Hi Everyone, As advertised, I published my September 2010 Roll Call last night. If anyone did not get one, and wants one, let me know, and I will get it to you in PDF format. If PDF does not work for you, let me know, and we can try something else. I have two people wanting in on the next edition. I do not know when that will be coming out. If anyone has ideas of how often we can publish, let me know your ideas. Yours, Joan Schaefer

    09/11/2010 01:42:26
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Ancestry Place Name Error - How many people in your tree?
    2. Alexa
    3. Dee, It's not common but women have and do marry much younger men all the time.  Old geezers have done it for centuries, why not women?  Right?  My grandmother married a man 18 years her junior and they were married 35 years until she died.  Then when he became ill a few years later, he came to live with us until he died.  My mom and her brother always laughed that their "father" was just one year older than his "son" and three years older than his "daughter". I think some people enter names into their trees just to have a high count.  I've been asked by several people, "how many people do you have in your tree?" and, of course, I can't answer them because I don't keep count, and I have several different trees on my computer. On ancestry.com, all the "trees" I have there are private.  People have to contact me if they want information.  My reason for doing that is because my trees are a work in progress and there could be errors which I haven't caught yet.  I don't want anyone to copy my errors and post them all over the web for others to copy.  Since I work on trees for others, I try to keep things private and separate.  Maybe when I finally connect to Adam and Eve, I'll combine all my various trees into one. Ignore previous post.  I made an error in my first sentence and when I tried to erase it, I accidentally tapped the mouse on the "send" button and couldn't stop it from going to the list. Alexa Genealogy research since 1975 --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Darnell Brunner Beck <[email protected]> wrote: ....I have the documents to prove that Johanna did marry Louis and yes Johanna was 20 years older then Louis. I know this is right I have the pics of them, I got first hand knowledge from her three granddaughters and her daughter-in-law who was the half sister of Johanna's husband Louis. So what it breaks down to is Johanna's third husband was her son's wife's half brother... Dee

    09/11/2010 04:34:30
    1. [LAORLEAN] Roll Call looking for Jennefer with email address of edgehanger at insightbb.com
    2. I have a lost person. Does anyone know Jennefer? Joan Schaefer

    09/09/2010 12:06:18
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Fw: Re: September 2010 Roll Call Third Draft
    2. Lisa Lockett
    3. I sent a page from the Confederate Service Records for William M. Isaacs. I hope that helps answer some questions. Lisa Lockett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2010 1:50:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [LAORLEAN] Fw: Re: September 2010 Roll Call Third Draft "Halls Fire Brigade" sounds like a fire house, so he must have been a fireman at one time. I think that the thing I sent prior to this one will give you a good start. There are quite a few on the LAOrleans list who have ancestors who were firemen, so maybe they can help. Welcome to our group Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 9/9/2010 12:41:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] September 2010 Roll Call Third Draft I know William M Isaacs was a Confederate in New Orleans "Halls Fire Brigade" but that's all I know. I can't find anything about the history or other people in it or dates.? Elden Isaacs [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Call CLASSIC TELEPHONE COMPANY for all of your business telephone needs. Now serving Maryland and South Central Pennsylvania. Contact us at 443-997-0730 and let our business help your business. For Civil War Soldiers buried at Confederate Hill in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, Maryland, go to http://www.mdscv.org/1388 Confederate Soldiers who served in AL, AR, FL, GA, KY, LA, MD, MO, MS, NC, SC, TN, TX, VA

    09/09/2010 08:37:41
    1. [LAORLEAN] Le Comite Annual Meeting
    2. JUDY A RIFFEL
    3. Le Comité des Archives de la Louisiane will hold its annual meeting on Sunday, September 26, at the Embassy Suites, 4914 Constitution Ave., in Baton Rouge. Registration begins at 1:00 p.m. and is free to members. Non-members may join at the door for $15. This year's main speaker will be Barry Jean Ancelet, co-editor of Dictionary of Louisiana French: As Spoken in Cajun, Creole, and Native American Communities. He will speak on his new book which was recently published by the University Press of Mississippi. Ancelet is Granger & Debaillon Endowed Professor of Francophone Studies and Folklore at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. He has given papers and published articles and books on various aspects of Louisiana's Cajun and Creole cultures and languages. Judy Riffel will also give a presentation on Louisiana Spanish Land Grants. Riffel is a professional genealogist and has compiled numerous books and articles on Louisiana genealogical sources. She is also editor of Le Comité's print journal, Le Raconteur, and electronic newsletter, E-Communiqué. The society will also display its publications for sale. Members already receive a discount on purchases, but for this one day only, they receive an additional discount. For a copy of the program, visit the society's website at www.lecomite.org.

    09/09/2010 08:20:35
    1. [LAORLEAN] Fw: Re: September 2010 Roll Call Third Draft
    2. Jan Strickland
    3. "Halls Fire Brigade" sounds like a fire house, so he must have been a fireman at one time. I think that the thing I sent prior to this one will give you a good start. There are quite a few on the LAOrleans list who have ancestors who were firemen, so maybe they can help. Welcome to our group Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 9/9/2010 12:41:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] September 2010 Roll Call Third Draft I know William M Isaacs was a Confederate in New Orleans "Halls Fire Brigade" but that's all I know. I can't find anything about the history or other people in it or dates.? Elden Isaacs [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/09/2010 07:50:07
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] William M. Isaacs
    2. Norm Hellmers
    3. Elden, The Records of Louisiana Confederate Soldiers & Confederate Commands. Vol. I-III, indicate the following: “Isaacs, William, Hall's Co. Orleans Fire Regt. La. Mil. Appears on Roll not dated.” This indicates that he was a member of one of the many militia units that were organized in New Orleans at the outbreak of the Civil War. William Isaacs was in a company, Hall’s Company, of the Orleans Fire Regiment. You will find the Orleans Fire Regiment in a list of Louisiana Civil War military units here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Civil_War_Confederate_Units I have read a little about the preparations made by these militia units. Charles L. Dufour, in his THE NIGHT THE WAR WAS LOST, talks about these preparations. Mostly the references are to getting organized, "drilling," and making uniforms. For example: "Volunteers organized and drilled on the Levee, in public parks, squares, streets, and even 'in the marts of commerce the drum-beats and the blare of trumpets drowned the busy hum of trade.' Uniforms became commonplace on every corner." Also: "New Orleans was rapidly taking on the appearance of an armed camp. Tailors worked day and night to complete colorful uniforms for Turcos, Zouaves, Chasseurs, and dozens of others. Seamstresses kept their sewing machines humming as they turned out company colors for the various units, and young and old were seized with military ardor and patriotism." And this: "Upon receipt of the news of Fort Sumter, Governor Moore issued the call for all volunteer troops of Louisiana to assemble with arms and equipment at the earliest moment at their armories. In New Orleans, the citizen soldiers hastened to respond, and the sound of drum and fife and marching men filled the streets of the city at all hours of the day, and even at night." But Dufour also says this: "Many of the troops were poorly armed, or not at all, and many were in need of training." Robert C. Reinders in his book, END OF AN ERA: NEW ORLEANS, 1850-1860, says: "Volunteer soldiers had to furnish their own uniforms, but the state and city aided in providing some of their equipment. But right up to the Civil War the local militia was poorly equipped. Reports from the state arsenal in New Orleans revealed a chronic shortage of rifles and small arms, though the shortage might perhaps have been considered a blessing in disguise, for many of the guns were unsafe, if not positively dangerous to use. The Federal government gave the state of Louisiana between 200 and 300 muskets yearly--an insufficient number to meet the demands of an expanding militia." Presumably some of the more "professional" units (those militia units that pre-dated the outbreak of the war) had weapons, but many did not. My guess has always been that the militia units my ancestors were in met infrequently (based on limited roll calls) and that they were not trained or truly prepared to protect the city. The evidence I have found indicates that these militia units may have met only a few times. The record of William Isaacs’ service is apparently found on only one undated muster roll. Here are a couple of examples of what these muster rolls look like: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hellmers/anc_and_des/03_geeck/geeck_images/hmil0006.jpg and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hellmers/anc_and_des/05_neff/neff_images/hmil0004.jpg Most of my male ancestors and their brothers of the right age can be found in one of these militia units. Copies of these muster rolls were available (before Hurricane Katrina) at the Jackson Barracks Military Library. I went there personally and they were able to provide me with photocopies of the rolls. It appears that they are back in business. You can find the contact information here: http://www.la.ngb.army.mil/dmh/jbml.htm They MAY be able to provide you with a copy of the one undated muster roll. This is likely the only record that you will find of his military service. The muster roll will show you who else was in the same unit. The rolls occasionally show the person’s address and occupation. If you Google “Orleans Fire Regiment,” you might find some reference to their activities. These militias were organized with the purpose of defending New Orleans. Instead of fighting, New Orleans chose to surrender and spare the destruction of the city. In April 1862, after the fall of New Orleans, these groups were disbanded. I'm curious about where you found the information about your William M. Isaacs being in Halls Fire Brigade. Good luck and let us know how you do with the Jackson Barracks Military Library. Norm --- On Thu, 9/9/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > I know William M Isaacs was a > Confederate in New Orleans "Halls Fire  > Brigade"  but that's all I know. I can't find anything > about the history or  > other people in it or dates.? > > Elden Isaacs    [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected])

    09/09/2010 06:41:33
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] September 2010 Roll Call Third Draft
    2. I know William M Isaacs was a Confederate in New Orleans "Halls Fire Brigade" but that's all I know. I can't find anything about the history or other people in it or dates.? Elden Isaacs [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

    09/08/2010 06:40:51
    1. [LAORLEAN] September 2010 Roll Call Third Draft
    2. I have just sent off my current draft of the Roll Call documents to everyone on my current list. If you want to get onto the list, I am trying to finalize by 10 Sep 2010. The following is the concept, followed by my current list. It seems that we need some clarification about what Roll Call is. The members of the list have given me a set of names that they are researching. One of the documents that I provided to you early Wednesday morning was a list of the names that each person was researching and the researcher's name and email address, in email address order. Each person being researched by that researcher was on one line of the document. That document started off as an Excel Spreadsheet. I then took the document, and sorted it on the first column. That means that everyone in the group researching a certain name will have that name drawn together with all of the other researchers, pulling the email addresses together. The point is to inform you of who else is interested in the surnames that you are researching. Since not everyone is able to deal with Microsoft Excel, and almost everyone is capable of dealing with PDF files, I converted my outcome to PDF files. Since the LAORLEAN List cannot take on attachments, I took the list of email addresses from the document, and split it in half, and sent the two documents to each name on the list. Also, I sent an email to the LAORLEAN List with the list of email addresses that I had sent to. Thus, if your address what not on that list, you need to tell me what your old email address was, and I will change the document. If you were not on the old document, I'll need to get your list of names being researched. Is this being helpful yet? Get back to me with questions if you have them [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected];[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] linda @stokesbury.org [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] pen[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]

    09/08/2010 03:20:02
    1. [LAORLEAN] Glass
    2. Katherine Heichler
    3. Hi Leon. Wetnesday 10;00 Am is OK with you ? if not give me a call.

    09/07/2010 09:12:28
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] update on Chanoine
    2. Jan Strickland
    3. Ah, ha, OK, if Jack is working on this, you will have what they have in a week or so. Have a good evening, Jan -------Original Message------- From: Cheramie Breaux Date: 9/6/2010 7:59:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAORLEAN] update on Chanoine > >"Canon" is an ecclesiastical term used by a clergyman attached to or >assigned to a Cathedral, as was Fr Mignot (the Cathedral Rector). I >doubt that it has been in common usage since perhaps the late 19th >or early 20th century." Jack Belsom People say "High Maintenance!" like it's a bad thing. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2010 02:11:38
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] update on Chanoine
    2. Cheramie Breaux
    3. You're right, if it's there. I just don't believe that marriage is recorded there. I'm hoping... At 06:11 PM 9/6/2010, you wrote: >Ah, ha, OK, if Jack is working on this, you will have what they have in >a week or so. > >Have a good evening, Jan > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Cheramie Breaux >Date: 9/6/2010 7:59:53 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LAORLEAN] update on Chanoine > > > > >"Canon" is an ecclesiastical term used by a clergyman attached to or > >assigned to a Cathedral, as was Fr Mignot (the Cathedral Rector). I > >doubt that it has been in common usage since perhaps the late 19th > >or early 20th century." Jack Belsom > >People say "High Maintenance!" like it's a bad thing. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message People say "High Maintenance!" like it's a bad thing.

    09/06/2010 12:30:43
    1. [LAORLEAN] update on Chanoine
    2. Cheramie Breaux
    3. > >"Canon" is an ecclesiastical term used by a clergyman attached to or >assigned to a Cathedral, as was Fr Mignot (the Cathedral Rector). I >doubt that it has been in common usage since perhaps the late 19th >or early 20th century." Jack Belsom People say "High Maintenance!" like it's a bad thing.

    09/06/2010 11:57:59
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] LAORLEAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 216
    2. I would suggest that when you are looking up Catholic Church records that you have a LATIN TO ENGLISH dictionary nearby. I suspect that any church records prior to 1950 were in most cases recorded in LATIN. Bill Buchholz ____________________________________________________________ BEWARE: Penny Auction SCAM Can you really get a Macbook for $23.86? You WON&#39;T believe what we found! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c851e5f5db83a24259st03duc

    09/06/2010 11:00:32
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call
    2. Cynthia Dean
    3. Please add me to Roll Call. Researching KRAMER Cynthia Dean

    09/06/2010 06:26:26
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call
    2. Christopher, You're in. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Alfonso-Beddows" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:46 AM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Roll Call > Please add me to the Roll Call. > > > Researching the names > > Alfonso > Delbert > Dionis > Huel > Jeannin >> >> > Thank you > Christopher Alfonso-Beddows > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2010 05:42:43
    1. [LAORLEAN] Kenneth B Toup's "Bourgeois Lines"
    2. Gene Data
    3. FYI I just posted all the references to the surname Hotard which appear in Kenneth B Toup's book "Bourgeois Lines" on the [email protected] mailing list..... if anyone on the LAORLEAN list would like to have these, you can browse or search there. It should be the most recent posting as this is not a very active list. Blessings for Carolyn who made this possible by making the book available to me. You could also contact me off list and I'll send to you privately. Or I could do a look-up for another surname. Renee in St. Louis

    09/06/2010 05:12:41
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] church name help
    2. Lynette Vinet
    3. Cheramie, in case you didn't receive my email to you--the G. Davis and L. Martin marriage was listed in N.O. Genesis,June,1980 edition as ocurring at St. Louis Cathedral, Marriage Register number 16 (1885-1891), page 389. Mr. Belsom can send you the church record from this information.

    09/06/2010 04:39:23
    1. Re: [LAORLEAN] church name help
    2. Helen Smith
    3. Jack Belsom has helped me recently. Helen -------------------------------------------------- From: "Cheramie Breaux" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:47 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] church name help > Interesting...I did get this from the Archdiocese archives. You > know, I never thought of calling and asking that. Is Jack Belsom > still there? I will do that this week. Thanks!!! > > At 06:12 PM 9/5/2010, you wrote: >>Are you certain it's a Catholic marriage certificate? If so, the >>archdiocese can tell you for certain which church if you contact >>them with the information. >>There is also an Episcopal church in N.O. called Christ Church Cathedral. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > People say "High Maintenance!" like it's a bad thing. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2010 04:21:38
    1. [LAORLEAN] Roll Call
    2. Christopher Alfonso-Beddows
    3. Please add me to the Roll Call. Researching the names Alfonso Delbert Dionis Huel Jeannin > > Thank you Christopher Alfonso-Beddows

    09/06/2010 02:46:27