Jan, how did you find out that Seraphine died in Bay St. Louis? Congratulations on your find. Merle -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:06 AM To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > Carolyn, > > Yep, I agree, I would love to know where the family was for the 1880 > census > and who she lived with from 1830 until she married Rudolphe Baumgartner in > 1848. Finally found where the lovely and mysterious Seraphine Hepp died. > In Bay St. Louis where she was living with her daughter, Ms. Francoise > Marin > > > She and her Hepp family are a joy to search for. They were all so wild > and > crazy. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 10/1/2010 10:32:02 AM > To: ORLEANS MESSAGE BD > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > > Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you can let > us > know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all those > years. > > My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, each > lister > will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never-located > relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. > > Carolyn Tregre > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've seen them listed - they usually did the institutions as a group and just list occupation as inmate. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Kathleen Deao <[email protected]> wrote: > Would the regular 1910 and 1920 LA census records list inmates at the parish > and state prisons? Or is there another way to search for someone I suspect > may be incarcerated at those times? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn, Yep, I agree, I would love to know where the family was for the 1880 census and who she lived with from 1830 until she married Rudolphe Baumgartner in 1848. Finally found where the lovely and mysterious Seraphine Hepp died. In Bay St. Louis where she was living with her daughter, Ms. Francoise Marin She and her Hepp family are a joy to search for. They were all so wild and crazy. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 10/1/2010 10:32:02 AM To: ORLEANS MESSAGE BD Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you can let us know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all those years. My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, each lister will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never-located relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. Carolyn Tregre ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would the regular 1910 and 1920 LA census records list inmates at the parish and state prisons? Or is there another way to search for someone I suspect may be incarcerated at those times?

Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you can let us know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all those years. My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, each lister will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never-located relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. Carolyn Tregre

Thank you Cate, for your very thoughtful analysis, and sharing of facts. So, when I found the 1833 passenger list from Le Havre to New York, and possibly my Born family, even though it stated that they were from Switzerland, then perhaps it really was them after-all, couldn't it be????? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. Le Havre is what is now the French department of Normandy was a big emigration port for Germanic people who were leaving to come to the US around the time of your ancestors and mine as well (my g-g parents married in NO in 1851 and ). That was when the political upheavals were swelling among the kings, princes, dukes, etc. Many left for the US just in time for Civil War conscription of themselves or their sons , but my take on that is for another day. Just one more note on the "but they were from...." question. The oral history of the French slice of my family pie, according to my g-mother (I was 13 when she died) who married the Frenchman against her parents wishes, described them as being from Alsace-Lorraine (the sometimes French - sometimes German part of southern France/Germany). They were not, she assured me, "cajuns". Well, grandma either misunderstood or misrepresented her husbands heritage. After all he was born and raised in Thibodaux, LA which is in Lafourche parish (county) the heartland of the Acadians who repatriated to North America and didn't move to New Orleans until he was nearly 18. And his mother was "cajun" through and through. Her surname was Dugas and her 4th g-grandfather was one of the 15 original settlers in Lafourche according to the first census taken there. Hope I've encouraged rather than confounded you in your family history pursuits. I've been at this since 1984, and others much, much longer. When family members ask when I'll be finished, I tell them I'll still be looking when I'm on the wrong side of the mud and if they destroy my work, I'll come back to pinch their toes and tell them what I found! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kathy Cochran" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:06 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Thank you Jan, for all the info. Yes, my Great-Great-Grandparents were > Jacob Born and Mena Rice. I too am fascinated with reference to the > 1833 Harriet & Jesse Ship from Le Havre, but it says they were from > Switzerland, not Germany. And there I have become perplexed. > > I also have been unable to find anywhere where Mena's father, Henry > Augustus Rice died. He was in business in New Orleans with Jacob, his > son-in-law, under the name The Rice-Born Hardware Company, Ltd. > Listed in the New Orleans City Directory in 1890-1891 (Jacob died > 2/1/1889) it stated Henry Rice and Estate of Jacob Born, leading me to > believe that Henry was still alive in 1890. Any clues? > > Thanks, Kathy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jan Strickland > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:01 PM > To: LAOrleans > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR > 5, > 1854 > New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > > First, Kathy welcome to the list. This is the greatest group for New > Orleans research that there is. > > My GGgrandparents were also married in the Lafayette Presbyterian > Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church). > > Someone made a trip to one of the LDS libraries and found the record, > but the copy made from the microfilm was just too faint to read. But > that is your best bet, go to any LDS library and tell them what you > are looking for. > They can get the film from the vault. > > In the FHL records I find Jacob Borne married Mina Rice on 3 Aug 1854, > so I assume that is your GGgrandparents > > In the birth records on our site, I found the following Frank > Beauregard Born - dob: 10/24/1861 Edward Augustus Born - dob: > 8/14/1855 Jacob Born - > dob: 7/18/1874 Ella Rovina Born - dob: 2/23/1866 Laura Edna Born - dob: > 12/11/1863 Minnie Lee Born - 4/1/1868 Wallace Rice Born - 4/5/1879 > Henry Howard Born - 12/18/1857 > > You can go to the site: http://files.usgwarchives > net/la/orleans/vitals/births/index/nobibobq.txt and get the Vol & Pg > # and get copies of the original records from the Louisiana Archives > in Baton Rouge, LA > > I also found Jacob and "Mena" and their children and Mina's mother, > Catherine, and a brother, George Rice in the 1880 census in New > Orleans, LA He was indeed born in Germany and she was born in Ohio. > > A Jacob Born (b 1828) came to the US on 23 Aug 1833 from Le Harve, > France aboard the Harriet and Jesse, with parents and 5 siblings. > > Hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of further help. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Kathy Cochran > Date: 9/29/2010 12:20:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: 'gbishida'; [email protected] > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR > 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > > Hello, I am new to this list, and would love some assistance. My > GG-grandfather, Jacob Born was born in Germany, in some censuses it > says Baden, on his Naturalization papers it says Hesse Darmstadt. > > > > His 1st son, my G-grandfather, was Edward Augustus Born, b 7 August 1855. > > > > Both the marriage and the baptism occurred at the Lafayette > Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) in > Orleans Parish, New > Orleans. The church burned down in 1860, but the records were saved, > and > the LDS has put them on film. > > > > I am hoping to be able to locate church records for either of the two > events, either the marriage or the baptism which occurred at the > Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street > Church) that would state the town or village in Germany where Jacob > was born. > > > > His father's Americanized name was John, he was probably Johannes in > Germany, and early on. > > > > Jacob's naturalization papers say that they came over in 1836, but no > ship's name or port was listed, so I am wondering if even the year is > correct. > (It is very possible that they landed 1st in Ohio, because that is > where Mena was born, and so maybe they met there, but I haven't been > able to ascertain this as yet.) > > > > So, from what I have learned, this is what I need: > > > > > > FHL US/CAN Film 1311102 Item 2 I believe the whole film is from the > Lafayette Presbyterian Church, in Orleans Parish. > > > > This has Marriages 1843 - 1871 (I am looking for Aug 3 OR 5, 1854) > Jacob > and Mena Born > > > > This has Baptisms 1841-1855 (My G-grandfather Edward Augustus Born) was > born Aug 7, 1855, but I don't have a baptismal date for him. > > > > > > Does anyone out there have access to these records? > > > > I would be thrilled, to say the least, if anyone can share this > information. > > > > Kindest regards in advance, > > > > > > Kathy Cochran > > San Andreas, CA > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great idea. I already know my son has no interest. I am leaving it all to my younger cousin who is green with envy at what I have been able to dig up. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Morris Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc" I'm wondering what will happen to my own collection when it's time for me to join the ancestors. I'll donate some of my books to a a local research library, but the rest...I'm putting on disk, so if the hard copies get thrown out, at least there will be a record if some elusive descendant wants to take up the quest. Or, I could tie my kids' inheritance to keeping all of my stuff. Jennifer -----Original Message----- >From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM >To: LAOrleans <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc" > >They (all my books, records, notebooks) have been promised to a genie >friend who has helped me more than I can every thank her. She asked >for them, I have agreed. >My own records, my daughter, has put in for, so that she can continue >what I have started. I have written down what to do with all of it. > >No problem, Jan > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Kathleen Deao >Date: 9/30/2010 5:52:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, >notebooks,etc > > >Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those >"books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my >elusive ancestors. Seriously . . . > >Thanks - Kathleen > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm wondering what will happen to my own collection when it's time for me to join the ancestors. I'll donate some of my books to a a local research library, but the rest...I'm putting on disk, so if the hard copies get thrown out, at least there will be a record if some elusive descendant wants to take up the quest. Or, I could tie my kids' inheritance to keeping all of my stuff. Jennifer -----Original Message----- >From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM >To: LAOrleans <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc" > >They (all my books, records, notebooks) have been promised to a genie friend >who >has helped me more than I can every thank her. She asked for them, I have >agreed. >My own records, my daughter, has put in for, so that she can continue what I >have >started. I have written down what to do with all of it. > >No problem, Jan > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Kathleen Deao >Date: 9/30/2010 5:52:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks,etc > > >Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those >"books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my elusive >ancestors. Seriously . . . > >Thanks - Kathleen > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They (all my books, records, notebooks) have been promised to a genie friend who has helped me more than I can every thank her. She asked for them, I have agreed. My own records, my daughter, has put in for, so that she can continue what I have started. I have written down what to do with all of it. No problem, Jan -------Original Message------- From: Kathleen Deao Date: 9/30/2010 5:52:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks,etc Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those "books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my elusive ancestors. Seriously . . . Thanks - Kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elden Isaacs researching William Marion Isaacs b. 4-8-1840 in New Orleans LA If this isn't correct let me know and I will change it.

Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. ..........................................................................

Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those "books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my elusive ancestors. Seriously . . . Thanks - Kathleen

Hi, I know that I have at least four or five who did not make it into September Roll Call. I'll work up a list of those in my queue, and post it here in a day or two. So, if anyone wants in, let me know. If you do not have a copy of September 2010 Roll Call, let me know, and I will send it to you now, in order to see where you currently stand. Here is my Description of the Task: It seems that we need some clarification about what Roll Call is. The members of the list have given me a set of names that they are researching. One of the documents is a list of the names that each person is researching and the researcher's name and email address, in email address order. Each person being researched by that researcher is on one line of the document. That document started off as an Excel Spreadsheet. I then took the document, and sorted it on the first column. That means that everyone in the group researching a certain name will have that name drawn together with all of the other researchers, pulling the email addresses together. The point is to inform you of who else is interested in the surnames that you are researching. Since not everyone is able to deal with Microsoft Excel, and almost everyone is capable of dealing with PDF files, I converted my outcome to PDF files. (Craig, are you my exception to that rule?) Since the LAORLEAN List cannot take on attachments, I took the list of email addresses from the document, and split it in half, and sent the two documents to each name on the list. Joan Schaefer

Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. Le Havre in what is now the French department of Normandy was a big emigration port for Germanic people who were leaving to come to the US around the time of your ancestors and mine as well (my g-g parents married in NO in 1851 and ). That was when the political upheavals were swelling among the kings, princes, dukes, etc. Many left for the US just in time for Civil War conscription of themselves or their sons , but my take on that is for another day. Just one more note on the "but they were from...." question. The oral history of the French slice of my family pie, according to my g-mother (I was 13 when she died) who married the Frenchman against her parents wishes, described them as being from Alsace-Lorraine (the sometimes French - sometimes German part of southern France/Germany). They were not, she assured me, "cajuns". Well, grandma either misunderstood or misrepresented her husbands heritage. After all he was born and raised in Thibodaux, LA which is in Lafourche parish (county) the heartland of the Acadians who repatriated to North America and didn't move to New Orleans until he was nearly 18. And his mother was "cajun" through and through. Her surname was Dugas and her 4th g-grandfather was one of the 15 original settlers in Lafourche according to the first census taken there. Hope I've encouraged rather than confounded you in your family history pursuits. I've been at this since 1984, and others much, much longer. When family members ask when I'll be finished, I tell them I'll still be looking when I'm on the wrong side of the mud and if they destroy my work, I'll come back to pinch their toes and tell them what I found! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kathy Cochran" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:06 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Thank you Jan, for all the info. Yes, my Great-Great-Grandparents were > Jacob > Born and Mena Rice. I too am fascinated with reference to the 1833 > Harriet > & Jesse Ship from Le Havre, but it says they were from Switzerland, not > Germany. And there I have become perplexed. > > I also have been unable to find anywhere where Mena's father, Henry > Augustus > Rice died. He was in business in New Orleans with Jacob, his son-in-law, > under the name The Rice-Born Hardware Company, Ltd. Listed in the New > Orleans City Directory in 1890-1891 (Jacob died 2/1/1889) it stated Henry > Rice and Estate of Jacob Born, leading me to believe that Henry was still > alive in 1890. Any clues? > > Thanks, Kathy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jan Strickland > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:01 PM > To: LAOrleans > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, > 1854 > New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > > First, Kathy welcome to the list. This is the greatest group for New > Orleans research that there is. > > My GGgrandparents were also married in the Lafayette Presbyterian Church > (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church). > > Someone made a trip to one of the LDS libraries and found the record, but > the copy made from the microfilm was just too faint to read. But that is > your best bet, go to any LDS library and tell them what you are looking > for. > They can get the film from the vault. > > In the FHL records I find Jacob Borne married Mina Rice on 3 Aug 1854, so > I > assume that is your GGgrandparents > > In the birth records on our site, I found the following Frank Beauregard > Born - dob: 10/24/1861 Edward Augustus Born - dob: 8/14/1855 Jacob Born - > dob: 7/18/1874 Ella Rovina Born - dob: 2/23/1866 Laura Edna Born - dob: > 12/11/1863 Minnie Lee Born - 4/1/1868 Wallace Rice Born - 4/5/1879 Henry > Howard Born - 12/18/1857 > > You can go to the site: http://files.usgwarchives > net/la/orleans/vitals/births/index/nobibobq.txt and get the Vol & Pg # > and > get copies of the original records from the Louisiana Archives in Baton > Rouge, LA > > I also found Jacob and "Mena" and their children and Mina's mother, > Catherine, and a brother, George Rice in the 1880 census in New Orleans, > LA > He was indeed born in Germany and she was born in Ohio. > > A Jacob Born (b 1828) came to the US on 23 Aug 1833 from Le Harve, France > aboard the Harriet and Jesse, with parents and 5 siblings. > > Hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of further help. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Kathy Cochran > Date: 9/29/2010 12:20:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: 'gbishida'; [email protected] > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 > New > Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > > Hello, I am new to this list, and would love some assistance. My > GG-grandfather, Jacob Born was born in Germany, in some censuses it says > Baden, on his Naturalization papers it says Hesse Darmstadt. > > > > His 1st son, my G-grandfather, was Edward Augustus Born, b 7 August 1855. > > > > Both the marriage and the baptism occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian > Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) in Orleans Parish, > New > Orleans. The church burned down in 1860, but the records were saved, > and > the LDS has put them on film. > > > > I am hoping to be able to locate church records for either of the two > events, either the marriage or the baptism which occurred at the Lafayette > Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) that > would > state the town or village in Germany where Jacob was born. > > > > His father's Americanized name was John, he was probably Johannes in > Germany, and early on. > > > > Jacob's naturalization papers say that they came over in 1836, but no > ship's > name or port was listed, so I am wondering if even the year is correct. > (It is very possible that they landed 1st in Ohio, because that is where > Mena was born, and so maybe they met there, but I haven't been able to > ascertain this as yet.) > > > > So, from what I have learned, this is what I need: > > > > > > FHL US/CAN Film 1311102 Item 2 I believe the whole film is from the > Lafayette Presbyterian Church, in Orleans Parish. > > > > This has Marriages 1843 - 1871 (I am looking for Aug 3 OR 5, 1854) > Jacob > and Mena Born > > > > This has Baptisms 1841-1855 (My G-grandfather Edward Augustus Born) was > born Aug 7, 1855, but I don't have a baptismal date for him. > > > > > > Does anyone out there have access to these records? > > > > I would be thrilled, to say the least, if anyone can share this > information. > > > > Kindest regards in advance, > > > > > > Kathy Cochran > > San Andreas, CA > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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I think that this might be Benjamin Baumgartner's widow, Emma Sanchez, age 62 yrs, dod: 23 Jun 1921, Vol 182, Pg 101 in New Orleans, LA I show her father as Edward Sanchez and mother Harriet Savron/Sarvon, born abt 1859 in New Orleans, LA  Jan S - Orlando, FL NOTE: If you forward this email please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses.

Thank you Jan, for all the info. Yes, my Great-Great-Grandparents were Jacob Born and Mena Rice. I too am fascinated with reference to the 1833 Harriet & Jesse Ship from Le Havre, but it says they were from Switzerland, not Germany. And there I have become perplexed. I also have been unable to find anywhere where Mena's father, Henry Augustus Rice died. He was in business in New Orleans with Jacob, his son-in-law, under the name The Rice-Born Hardware Company, Ltd. Listed in the New Orleans City Directory in 1890-1891 (Jacob died 2/1/1889) it stated Henry Rice and Estate of Jacob Born, leading me to believe that Henry was still alive in 1890. Any clues? Thanks, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Strickland Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:01 PM To: LAOrleans Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA First, Kathy welcome to the list. This is the greatest group for New Orleans research that there is. My GGgrandparents were also married in the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church). Someone made a trip to one of the LDS libraries and found the record, but the copy made from the microfilm was just too faint to read. But that is your best bet, go to any LDS library and tell them what you are looking for. They can get the film from the vault. In the FHL records I find Jacob Borne married Mina Rice on 3 Aug 1854, so I assume that is your GGgrandparents In the birth records on our site, I found the following Frank Beauregard Born - dob: 10/24/1861 Edward Augustus Born - dob: 8/14/1855 Jacob Born - dob: 7/18/1874 Ella Rovina Born - dob: 2/23/1866 Laura Edna Born - dob: 12/11/1863 Minnie Lee Born - 4/1/1868 Wallace Rice Born - 4/5/1879 Henry Howard Born - 12/18/1857 You can go to the site: http://files.usgwarchives net/la/orleans/vitals/births/index/nobibobq.txt and get the Vol & Pg # and get copies of the original records from the Louisiana Archives in Baton Rouge, LA I also found Jacob and "Mena" and their children and Mina's mother, Catherine, and a brother, George Rice in the 1880 census in New Orleans, LA He was indeed born in Germany and she was born in Ohio. A Jacob Born (b 1828) came to the US on 23 Aug 1833 from Le Harve, France aboard the Harriet and Jesse, with parents and 5 siblings. Hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of further help. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Kathy Cochran Date: 9/29/2010 12:20:02 PM To: [email protected] Cc: 'gbishida'; [email protected] Subject: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hello, I am new to this list, and would love some assistance. My GG-grandfather, Jacob Born was born in Germany, in some censuses it says Baden, on his Naturalization papers it says Hesse Darmstadt. His 1st son, my G-grandfather, was Edward Augustus Born, b 7 August 1855. Both the marriage and the baptism occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) in Orleans Parish, New Orleans. The church burned down in 1860, but the records were saved, and the LDS has put them on film. I am hoping to be able to locate church records for either of the two events, either the marriage or the baptism which occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) that would state the town or village in Germany where Jacob was born. His father's Americanized name was John, he was probably Johannes in Germany, and early on. Jacob's naturalization papers say that they came over in 1836, but no ship's name or port was listed, so I am wondering if even the year is correct. (It is very possible that they landed 1st in Ohio, because that is where Mena was born, and so maybe they met there, but I haven't been able to ascertain this as yet.) So, from what I have learned, this is what I need: FHL US/CAN Film 1311102 Item 2 I believe the whole film is from the Lafayette Presbyterian Church, in Orleans Parish. This has Marriages 1843 - 1871 (I am looking for Aug 3 OR 5, 1854) Jacob and Mena Born This has Baptisms 1841-1855 (My G-grandfather Edward Augustus Born) was born Aug 7, 1855, but I don't have a baptismal date for him. Does anyone out there have access to these records? I would be thrilled, to say the least, if anyone can share this information. Kindest regards in advance, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Found that both are buried at Lafayette Cemetery #1 (per Find A Grave site) Show his dob as 10/17/1828, dod: 2/1/1889 shows his spouse as Wilhelmina Rice Born - dob: 1835, dod: 11/22/1920 also buried at Lafayette Cemetery #1 Jan S - Orlando, FL  Jan S - Orlando, FL NOTE: If you forward this email please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses.

First, Kathy welcome to the list. This is the greatest group for New Orleans research that there is. My GGgrandparents were also married in the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church). Someone made a trip to one of the LDS libraries and found the record, but the copy made from the microfilm was just too faint to read. But that is your best bet, go to any LDS library and tell them what you are looking for. They can get the film from the vault. In the FHL records I find Jacob Borne married Mina Rice on 3 Aug 1854, so I assume that is your GGgrandparents In the birth records on our site, I found the following Frank Beauregard Born - dob: 10/24/1861 Edward Augustus Born - dob: 8/14/1855 Jacob Born - dob: 7/18/1874 Ella Rovina Born - dob: 2/23/1866 Laura Edna Born - dob: 12/11/1863 Minnie Lee Born - 4/1/1868 Wallace Rice Born - 4/5/1879 Henry Howard Born - 12/18/1857 You can go to the site: http://files.usgwarchives net/la/orleans/vitals/births/index/nobibobq.txt and get the Vol & Pg # and get copies of the original records from the Louisiana Archives in Baton Rouge, LA I also found Jacob and "Mena" and their children and Mina's mother, Catherine, and a brother, George Rice in the 1880 census in New Orleans, LA He was indeed born in German and she was born in Ohio. A Jacob Born (b 1828) came to the US on 23 Aug 1833 from Le Harve, France aboard the Harriet and Jesse, with parents and 5 siblings. Hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of further help. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Kathy Cochran Date: 9/29/2010 12:20:02 PM To: [email protected] Cc: 'gbishida'; [email protected] Subject: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hello, I am new to this list, and would love some assistance. My GG-grandfather, Jacob Born was born in Germany, in some censuses it says Baden, on his Naturalization papers it says Hesse Darmstadt. His 1st son, my G-grandfather, was Edward Augustus Born, b 7 August 1855. Both the marriage and the baptism occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) in Orleans Parish, New Orleans. The church burned down in 1860, but the records were saved, and the LDS has put them on film. I am hoping to be able to locate church records for either of the two events, either the marriage or the baptism which occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) that would state the town or village in Germany where Jacob was born. His father's Americanized name was John, he was probably Johannes in Germany, and early on. Jacob's naturalization papers say that they came over in 1836, but no ship's name or port was listed, so I am wondering if even the year is correct. (It is very possible that they landed 1st in Ohio, because that is where Mena was born, and so maybe they met there, but I haven't been able to ascertain this as yet.) So, from what I have learned, this is what I need: FHL US/CAN Film 1311102 Item 2 I believe the whole film is from the Lafayette Presbyterian Church, in Orleans Parish. This has Marriages 1843 - 1871 (I am looking for Aug 3 OR 5, 1854) Jacob and Mena Born This has Baptisms 1841-1855 (My G-grandfather Edward Augustus Born) was born Aug 7, 1855, but I don't have a baptismal date for him. Does anyone out there have access to these records? I would be thrilled, to say the least, if anyone can share this information. Kindest regards in advance, Kathy Cochran San Andreas, CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I responded to this new Kathy about Roll Call. I suppose Born is German and Borne is French, but who knows? Always good to have a new looker with us. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Dear Kathy, > Welcome to LAORLEAN. Not that I am the official welcom-er, but we do have > a > feature called Roll Call, and we have just completed some new documents a > few weeks ago. I am attaching them here. One document shows what surnames > each of our members are searching, and then there is a sort, and all of > the > surnames are pulled together, and the list has all of the people who are > searching each surname. Look, and you will see that it is pretty > self-explanatory. So, I looked for Born and Rice. They are not there, but > there are people searching for Borne. Might that be the same family? > Welcome, again, and good luck in your searches. > Joan Schaefer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Cochran" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: "'gbishida'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:19 AM > Subject: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 > New > Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > > >> Hello, I am new to this list, and would love some assistance. My >> GG-grandfather, Jacob Born was born in Germany, in some censuses it says >> Baden, on his Naturalization papers it says Hesse Darmstadt. >> >> >> >> His 1st son, my G-grandfather, was Edward Augustus Born, b 7 August 1855. >> >> >> >> Both the marriage and the baptism occurred at the Lafayette Presbyterian >> Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) in Orleans Parish, >> New >> Orleans. The church burned down in 1860, but the records were saved, >> and >> the LDS has put them on film. >> >> >> >> I am hoping to be able to locate church records for either of the two >> events, either the marriage or the baptism which occurred at the >> Lafayette >> Presbyterian Church (sometimes known as the Fulton Street Church) that >> would >> state the town or village in Germany where Jacob was born. >> >> >> >> His father's Americanized name was John, he was probably Johannes in >> Germany, and early on. >> >> >> >> Jacob's naturalization papers say that they came over in 1836, but no >> ship's >> name or port was listed, so I am wondering if even the year is correct. >> (It is very possible that they landed 1st in Ohio, because that is where >> Mena was born, and so maybe they met there, but I haven't been able to >> ascertain this as yet.) >> >> >> >> So, from what I have learned, this is what I need: >> >> >> >> >> >> FHL US/CAN Film 1311102 Item 2 I believe the whole film is from the >> Lafayette Presbyterian Church, in Orleans Parish. >> >> >> >> This has Marriages 1843 - 1871 (I am looking for Aug 3 OR 5, 1854) >> Jacob >> and Mena Born >> >> >> >> This has Baptisms 1841-1855 (My G-grandfather Edward Augustus Born) was >> born Aug 7, 1855, but I don't have a baptismal date for him. >> >> >> >> >> >> Does anyone out there have access to these records? >> >> >> >> I would be thrilled, to say the least, if anyone can share this >> information. >> >> >> >> Kindest regards in advance, >> >> >> >> >> >> Kathy Cochran >> >> San Andreas, CA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >