My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I found this to be true also. Another thing I recently noticed - I had been skipping over references to my relatives in the Social pages. I now check them out. I noticed references to an ancestor "visiting" another ancestor in MS. Don't know if they lived there for a while, if it was a camp or if they had a summer home. But, if you have GenealogyBank or something similar - check it ALL out. Also check Harrison Co - they are so close together! On Oct 2, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Carolyn Long wrote: > We should always consider Hancock County, Mississippi, as a > possibility. I > found some of Marie Laveau's descendants living there at the turn of > the > 21st Century. > > Carolyn Long > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> > To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > > >> Some wonderful angel found the cemetery survey from Hancock Co, MS >> and she >> was on it. And then I rechecked "Find A Grave" and there was a >> picture of >> the tombstone. Then someone (another angel) from this fantastic, >> wonderful >> list send me a thing from the paper in New Orleans, called a >> Necrology >> Report, showing the following: 11/16/1909 - Mrs. S. H. >> Baumgartner. Bay >> St. >> Louis, Miss., Nov 15, Mrs. Saraphine Hepp Baumgartner died here >> Saturday >> (11/13/1909). Her funeral took place from Christ Church, in Front >> Street, >> Rev. Dr. Duffy officiating. >> >> Have not yet found an obit in the Bay St Louis papers, but >> eventually. >> Unfortunately for me, Mississippi did not begin keeping death records >> until >> 1912. Evidently when my Ggrandfather, William Allen Baumgartner, >> decided >> to >> move his family to Jacksonville, FL shortly after 1900 (they were >> all in >> that census) Seraphine went to live with her daughter and her family. >> Rosalie and husband Francois Marin. I even have pictures of those >> two >> with >> two of their children in MS. >> >> Merle, thanks for remembering my relentless & endless search for the >> lovely >> and mysterious Seraphine Hepp Baumgartner, my GGgrandmother. >> >> Jan S - Orlando, FL >> >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Merle Ann Farrington >> Date: 10/1/2010 2:07:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records >> >> Jan, how did you find out that Seraphine died in Bay St. Louis? >> Congratulations on your find. >> >> Merle >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:06 AM >> To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records >> >>> Carolyn, >>> >>> Yep, I agree, I would love to know where the family was for the 1880 >>> census >>> and who she lived with from 1830 until she married Rudolphe >>> Baumgartner >>> in >>> 1848. Finally found where the lovely and mysterious Seraphine >>> Hepp died. >>> In Bay St. Louis where she was living with her daughter, Ms. >>> Francoise >>> Marin >>> >>> >>> She and her Hepp family are a joy to search for. They were all so >>> wild >>> and >>> crazy. >>> >>> Jan S - Orlando, FL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------Original Message------- >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> Date: 10/1/2010 10:32:02 AM >>> To: ORLEANS MESSAGE BD >>> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records >>> >>> Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you >>> can let >>> us >>> know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all >>> those >>> years. >>> >>> My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, >>> each >>> lister >>> will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never- >>> located >>> relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. >>> >>> Carolyn Tregre >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message Peggy Rooney [email protected]

Jan and all, I have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. Lehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 cemetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in about 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical concert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at soirees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from Germany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that he most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what records they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have embarked from? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans around 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then in Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith Waco, TX -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve > from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, > per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the > german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. > > My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady > born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in > the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly > said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. > > Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and > have already told my husband and my daughter what to > do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter > my little office. > > Enjoy the search > > Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer > Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR > 5,1854 > New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > > Hi Kathy, > You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word > "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our > research. > > You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. > Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political > subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one > another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow > Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 > "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or > maybe > the change is why they left. > > My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or > someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in > Bavaria > which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of > Switzerland. > He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- > maybe > he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. > > .......................................................................... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for this great map source! Can you tell me what the designation before each country means....KCR and also seen as KSR ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 10:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA I sometimes use www.maproom.org Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 11:45 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA So, how or where can I get a map of Europe, particulary ermany/France/Switzerland about 1833-1836? -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] n Behalf Of [email protected] ent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:02 AM o: [email protected]; [email protected] ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA y German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came hrough the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker andeville, LA ----Original Message----- rom: Helen Smith <[email protected]> o: [email protected] ent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA an and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. hmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 metery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in out 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical ncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at irees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from rmany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e ost likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords hey had. oes anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked rom? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to rompt them to come to America at that time. ny incite appreciated. elen Lehmann Smith co, TX ------------------------------------------------- om: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> nt: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM : "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> bject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 w Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and ather. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of witzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady orn in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, he in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So hat's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and ave already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these ooks, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political ubdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one nother for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow olish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe he change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of witzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- aybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the uotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So, how or where can I get a map of Europe, particulary Germany/France/Switzerland about 1833-1836? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of da[email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:02 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La > Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had checked in MS because some of the family had moved there, I think that the info was not there yet when I checked. Another reminder to go back and check links over and over. The "Find A Grave" site, is just wonderful and they add info daily. I have contributed to this site myself. http://www.findagrave.com/ And have found dozens of ancestors burial sites along with info on parents and children. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Carolyn Long Date: 10/2/2010 8:56:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records We should always consider Hancock County, Mississippi, as a possibility. I found some of Marie Laveau's descendants living there at the turn of the 21st Century. Carolyn Long ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > Some wonderful angel found the cemetery survey from Hancock Co, MS and she > was on it. And then I rechecked "Find A Grave" and there was a picture of > the tombstone. Then someone (another angel) from this fantastic, > wonderful > list send me a thing from the paper in New Orleans, called a Necrology > Report, showing the following: 11/16/1909 - Mrs. S. H. Baumgartner. Bay > St. > Louis, Miss., Nov 15, Mrs. Saraphine Hepp Baumgartner died here Saturday > (11/13/1909). Her funeral took place from Christ Church, in Front Street, > Rev. Dr. Duffy officiating. > > Have not yet found an obit in the Bay St Louis papers, but eventually. > Unfortunately for me, Mississippi did not begin keeping death records > until > 1912. Evidently when my Ggrandfather, William Allen Baumgartner, decided > to > move his family to Jacksonville, FL shortly after 1900 (they were all in > that census) Seraphine went to live with her daughter and her family. > Rosalie and husband Francois Marin. I even have pictures of those two > with > two of their children in MS. > > Merle, thanks for remembering my relentless & endless search for the > lovely > and mysterious Seraphine Hepp Baumgartner, my GGgrandmother. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Merle Ann Farrington > Date: 10/1/2010 2:07:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > > Jan, how did you find out that Seraphine died in Bay St. Louis? > Congratulations on your find. > > Merle > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:06 AM > To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > >> Carolyn, >> >> Yep, I agree, I would love to know where the family was for the 1880 >> census >> and who she lived with from 1830 until she married Rudolphe Baumgartner >> in >> 1848. Finally found where the lovely and mysterious Seraphine Hepp died. >> In Bay St. Louis where she was living with her daughter, Ms. Francoise >> Marin >> >> >> She and her Hepp family are a joy to search for. They were all so wild >> and >> crazy. >> >> Jan S - Orlando, FL >> >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: [email protected] >> Date: 10/1/2010 10:32:02 AM >> To: ORLEANS MESSAGE BD >> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records >> >> Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you can let >> us >> know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all those >> years. >> >> My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, each >> lister >> will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never-located >> relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. >> >> Carolyn Tregre >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We should always consider Hancock County, Mississippi, as a possibility. I found some of Marie Laveau's descendants living there at the turn of the 21st Century. Carolyn Long ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > Some wonderful angel found the cemetery survey from Hancock Co, MS and she > was on it. And then I rechecked "Find A Grave" and there was a picture of > the tombstone. Then someone (another angel) from this fantastic, > wonderful > list send me a thing from the paper in New Orleans, called a Necrology > Report, showing the following: 11/16/1909 - Mrs. S. H. Baumgartner. Bay > St. > Louis, Miss., Nov 15, Mrs. Saraphine Hepp Baumgartner died here Saturday > (11/13/1909). Her funeral took place from Christ Church, in Front Street, > Rev. Dr. Duffy officiating. > > Have not yet found an obit in the Bay St Louis papers, but eventually. > Unfortunately for me, Mississippi did not begin keeping death records > until > 1912. Evidently when my Ggrandfather, William Allen Baumgartner, decided > to > move his family to Jacksonville, FL shortly after 1900 (they were all in > that census) Seraphine went to live with her daughter and her family. > Rosalie and husband Francois Marin. I even have pictures of those two > with > two of their children in MS. > > Merle, thanks for remembering my relentless & endless search for the > lovely > and mysterious Seraphine Hepp Baumgartner, my GGgrandmother. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Merle Ann Farrington > Date: 10/1/2010 2:07:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > > Jan, how did you find out that Seraphine died in Bay St. Louis? > Congratulations on your find. > > Merle > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:06 AM > To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > >> Carolyn, >> >> Yep, I agree, I would love to know where the family was for the 1880 >> census >> and who she lived with from 1830 until she married Rudolphe Baumgartner >> in >> 1848. Finally found where the lovely and mysterious Seraphine Hepp died. >> In Bay St. Louis where she was living with her daughter, Ms. Francoise >> Marin >> >> >> She and her Hepp family are a joy to search for. They were all so wild >> and >> crazy. >> >> Jan S - Orlando, FL >> >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: [email protected] >> Date: 10/1/2010 10:32:02 AM >> To: ORLEANS MESSAGE BD >> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records >> >> Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you can let >> us >> know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all those >> years. >> >> My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, each >> lister >> will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never-located >> relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. >> >> Carolyn Tregre >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Of course the answer is to publish the material in some way that it will be preserved. This could be a formal book that you write about your family but most folks never get around to it. Another choice is to write a chapter on each family line. Using software such as Microsoft Word, Just start with the oldest generation and write about that individual using all the source documents you have and add endnotes so you can prove your story as you go along. Then list all his children and write about them with all you information, etc. Give this document to your children/grandchildren as a Christmas or other present. Add copies of photos, marriage records, death certificates, etc. to make it more interesting. If this is too overwhelming then at least make a gedcom file of your data and post it on several free genealogy sites for others to use. The tragedy would be for you to die, and all your "stuff" would be pitched or put in boxes in the basement by your relatives. Do something. Start now! You won't regret it. Marian

Whatever you decide to do with your work when you go to join your sometimes elusive ancestors - put your wishes in your will - who gets what & where you want it to go. People will not always remember the smaller (to them) things. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Ben Achee <[email protected]> wrote: > I plan on donating my Achee genealogy research to the Louisana State Archives > and my Derbes & Gilly resarch to the Williams Research Center in the French > Quarters. I have left instructions to my family as I know none of my children > are interested. > > > Ben > > See Achee genealogy at achee.com > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Jennifer Morris > Date: 9/30/2010 10:42:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks > etc" > > I'm wondering what will happen to my own collection when it's time for me to > join the ancestors. > I'll donate some of my books to a a local research library, but the rest...I > m putting on disk, so if the hard copies get thrown out, at least there will > be a record if some elusive descendant wants to take up the quest. > > Or, I could tie my kids' inheritance to keeping all of my stuff. > Jennifer > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM >> To: LAOrleans <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, > notebooks, etc" >> >> They (all my books, records, notebooks) have been promised to a genie > friend >> who >> has helped me more than I can every thank her. She asked for them, I have >> agreed. >> My own records, my daughter, has put in for, so that she can continue what > I >> have >> started. I have written down what to do with all of it. >> >> No problem, Jan >> >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Kathleen Deao >> Date: 9/30/2010 5:52:26 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks > etc >> >> >> Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those >> "books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my elusive >> ancestors. Seriously . . . >> >> Thanks - Kathleen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a daughter who has already said " it's mine"!  My nephew, in fact two of them have already told my daughter they will take anything she doesn't want.  So guess all my stuff will stay in the family and keep being added to. Betty in Ca. by way of N.O. La. --- On Fri, 10/1/10, Jan Strickland <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc" To: "Jennifer Morris" <[email protected]>, "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 1:09 PM I like the "tie up kids' inheritance" idea.  One of them have to keep it safe, get it all put on line for free use of any and all family or no one gets all my $$$$ LOL  but hey maybe it will work.  To be serious, we do need to figure out what is the best thing to do with out records.  Hey, listers, a project to work on. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Jennifer Morris Date: 9/30/2010 10:42:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks etc" I'm wondering what will happen to my own collection when it's time for me to join the ancestors. I'll donate some of my books to a a local research library, but the rest...I m putting on disk, so if the hard copies get thrown out, at least there will be a record if some elusive descendant wants to take up the quest. Or, I could tie my kids' inheritance to keeping all of my stuff. Jennifer -----Original Message----- >From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM >To: LAOrleans <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc" > >They (all my books, records, notebooks) have been promised to a genie friend >who >has helped me more than I can every thank her.  She asked for them, I have >agreed. >My own records, my daughter, has put in for, so that she can continue what I >have >started.  I have written down what to do with all of it. > >No problem, Jan > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Kathleen Deao >Date: 9/30/2010 5:52:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks etc > > >Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those >"books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my elusive >ancestors. Seriously . . . > >Thanks - Kathleen > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please put me in. Kathy Cochran researching Rice and Born. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAORLEAN] Fwd: Announcement - October Roll Call I am currently reconstructing what I lost in a "stand alone" genie program when my computer crashed. The only name I can send you is Billett, until I get organized for the Roll Call which I somehow missed. I'm now reading about it! Jan probably remembers more of my names than I do! Susan Billett Anderson Kost in Kansas ____________________________________ From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 9/30/2010 4:39:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: [LAORLEAN] Announcement - October Roll Call know that I have at least four or five who did not make it into September Roll Call. I'll work up a list of those in my queue, and post it here in a day or two. So, if anyone wants in, let me know. If you do not have a copy of September 2010 Roll Call, let me know, and I will send it to you now, in order to see where you currently stand. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am currently reconstructing what I lost in a "stand alone" genie program when my computer crashed. The only name I can send you is Billett, until I get organized for the Roll Call which I somehow missed. I'm now reading about it! Jan probably remembers more of my names than I do! Susan Billett Anderson Kost in Kansas ____________________________________ From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 9/30/2010 4:39:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: [LAORLEAN] Announcement - October Roll Call know that I have at least four or five who did not make it into September Roll Call. I'll work up a list of those in my queue, and post it here in a day or two. So, if anyone wants in, let me know. If you do not have a copy of September 2010 Roll Call, let me know, and I will send it to you now, in order to see where you currently stand.

I plan to donate my "place" books to the local county genealogical society. We live in Georgia, but there are lots of Louisiana people who live here now! The books I have concerning past family lines will be kept in the family. All of my kids (ages 38, 41, and 46) are fascinated with my old family stories, and want the books. Of course, my greatest ambition is to put it all into one book - just for family. Not sure I will get there though. Sue In a message dated 2010-10-01 2:23:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I often see "give it to the library" . . . but would NOPL really want it?! Think how much storage it would take for the binders :-) I ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan, congrats on finding her! -----Original Message----- >From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> >Sent: Oct 1, 2010 9:06 AM >To: LAOrleans <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > >Carolyn, > >Yep, I agree, I would love to know where the family was for the 1880 census >and who she lived with from 1830 until she married Rudolphe Baumgartner in >1848. Finally found where the lovely and mysterious Seraphine Hepp died. >In Bay St. Louis where she was living with her daughter, Ms. Francoise Marin > > >She and her Hepp family are a joy to search for. They were all so wild and >crazy. > >Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: [email protected] >Date: 10/1/2010 10:32:02 AM >To: ORLEANS MESSAGE BD >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > >Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you can let us >know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all those >years. > >My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, each lister >will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never-located >relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. > >Carolyn Tregre > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

True, so we have to figure out how to put it all online, for free. Right? -------Original Message------- From: Kathleen Deao Date: 10/1/2010 2:23:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks etc" I often see "give it to the library" . . . but would NOPL really want it?! Think how much storage it would take for the binders :-) I ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some wonderful angel found the cemetery survey from Hancock Co, MS and she was on it. And then I rechecked "Find A Grave" and there was a picture of the tombstone. Then someone (another angel) from this fantastic, wonderful list send me a thing from the paper in New Orleans, called a Necrology Report, showing the following: 11/16/1909 - Mrs. S. H. Baumgartner. Bay St. Louis, Miss., Nov 15, Mrs. Saraphine Hepp Baumgartner died here Saturday (11/13/1909). Her funeral took place from Christ Church, in Front Street, Rev. Dr. Duffy officiating. Have not yet found an obit in the Bay St Louis papers, but eventually. Unfortunately for me, Mississippi did not begin keeping death records until 1912. Evidently when my Ggrandfather, William Allen Baumgartner, decided to move his family to Jacksonville, FL shortly after 1900 (they were all in that census) Seraphine went to live with her daughter and her family. Rosalie and husband Francois Marin. I even have pictures of those two with two of their children in MS. Merle, thanks for remembering my relentless & endless search for the lovely and mysterious Seraphine Hepp Baumgartner, my GGgrandmother. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Merle Ann Farrington Date: 10/1/2010 2:07:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records Jan, how did you find out that Seraphine died in Bay St. Louis? Congratulations on your find. Merle -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:06 AM To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > Carolyn, > > Yep, I agree, I would love to know where the family was for the 1880 > census > and who she lived with from 1830 until she married Rudolphe Baumgartner in > 1848. Finally found where the lovely and mysterious Seraphine Hepp died. > In Bay St. Louis where she was living with her daughter, Ms. Francoise > Marin > > > She and her Hepp family are a joy to search for. They were all so wild > and > crazy. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 10/1/2010 10:32:02 AM > To: ORLEANS MESSAGE BD > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records > > Jan, We must set up a signal of some kind when you go so that you can let > us > know where in the name of goodness that Hepp woman was hiding all those > years. > > My vision of heaven, not to be irreverent, is that upon arrival, each > lister > will look across the expanse and yell out to some long-lost-never-located > relative, "Where were you?" I know I will. > > Carolyn Tregre >

I like the "tie up kids' inheritance" idea. One of them have to keep it safe, get it all put on line for free use of any and all family or no one gets all my $$$$ LOL but hey maybe it will work. To be serious, we do need to figure out what is the best thing to do with out records. Hey, listers, a project to work on. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Jennifer Morris Date: 9/30/2010 10:42:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks etc" I'm wondering what will happen to my own collection when it's time for me to join the ancestors. I'll donate some of my books to a a local research library, but the rest...I m putting on disk, so if the hard copies get thrown out, at least there will be a record if some elusive descendant wants to take up the quest. Or, I could tie my kids' inheritance to keeping all of my stuff. Jennifer -----Original Message----- >From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM >To: LAOrleans <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc" > >They (all my books, records, notebooks) have been promised to a genie friend >who >has helped me more than I can every thank her. She asked for them, I have >agreed. >My own records, my daughter, has put in for, so that she can continue what I >have >started. I have written down what to do with all of it. > >No problem, Jan > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Kathleen Deao >Date: 9/30/2010 5:52:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks etc > > >Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those >"books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my elusive >ancestors. Seriously . . . > >Thanks - Kathleen > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I plan on donating my Achee genealogy research to the Louisana State Archives and my Derbes & Gilly resarch to the Williams Research Center in the French Quarters. I have left instructions to my family as I know none of my children are interested. Ben  See Achee genealogy at achee.com -------Original Message------- From: Jennifer Morris Date: 9/30/2010 10:42:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks etc" I'm wondering what will happen to my own collection when it's time for me to join the ancestors. I'll donate some of my books to a a local research library, but the rest...I m putting on disk, so if the hard copies get thrown out, at least there will be a record if some elusive descendant wants to take up the quest. Or, I could tie my kids' inheritance to keeping all of my stuff. Jennifer -----Original Message----- >From: Jan Strickland <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM >To: LAOrleans <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc" > >They (all my books, records, notebooks) have been promised to a genie friend >who >has helped me more than I can every thank her.  She asked for them, I have >agreed. >My own records, my daughter, has put in for, so that she can continue what I >have >started.  I have written down what to do with all of it. > >No problem, Jan > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Kathleen Deao >Date: 9/30/2010 5:52:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LAORLEAN] "what to do with all these books, records, notebooks etc > > >Jan [and others] -- do tell -- what ARE you going to do with all those >"books, records, notebooks, etc." That "perplexes" me as much as my elusive >ancestors. Seriously . . . > >Thanks - Kathleen > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They should be in the regu,lar census. Ben  See Achee genealogy at achee.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Kathleen Deao <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 12:00:23 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] prison records Would the regular 1910 and 1920 LA census records list inmates at the parish and state prisons? Or is there another way to search for someone I suspect may be incarcerated at those times? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I often see "give it to the library" . . . but would NOPL really want it?! Think how much storage it would take for the binders :-) I